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1661  Economy / Economics / Re: Are institutions hedging? on: February 11, 2021, 07:37:10 AM
I think that institutions are definitely hedging, if you have a business and you see an opportunity to have a safety net for your business, would you ignore it? If yes then that will be what most institutions will do, human has somewhere in their gene encoded that everything we own or cherish should be preserved. The only problem with this is that most people in the business sector doesn't know when to stop on how big their hedge is, which means that there will be less for those who can't afford a lot.
1662  Economy / Economics / Re: JP Morgan says large firms will not follow Tesla's bitcoin move on: February 11, 2021, 06:56:35 AM
JP Morgan is a bank, isn't it?

I can't even expect them to support BTC unless they find a way to be in advantage themselves. Since MicroStrategy and Tesla have invested that much into BTC, I really expect a strong domino effect going through most of the large companies.

As time passes, Musk's and MicroStrategy's value will most likely rise at some point to an ATH specifically due to their recent actions of purchasing BTC. Other large companies will not be left alone in the course and all they have to do is just see the price evolution of 2009-2021 to realize that they're gonna be left behind if large corporations invest in BTC while they don't.
In a way, JP Morgan is right, if large firms were to follow now, the prices that they are going to pay is going to be big but I don't that it is enough excuse because they can see the potential of increase of bitcoin in the past year and I think that this will be discussed on the board meetings because the latecomers are going to be crying their hearts out because they will be buying at such a large price that they are not going to profit a lot. We just have to see what happens next because we can't trust bankers.
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1664  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin & Tesla: What Everybody Missed in Elon Musk's Announcement on: February 11, 2021, 04:53:10 AM
"Tesla has already taken Bitcoin for cars." Was it really Tesla itself which accepted Bitcoin or just a Tesla dealer? Either way, I'm still amazed that as early as 2012 or 2013, when Bitcoin was mostly unheard of, there was already a transaction like that. I wonder how many latest Tesla models would that amount buy today.

Anyway, Elon getting into Bitcoin, Gold, and so on is no surprise. They're all better options than fiat. Wealth diversified into various stores of value other than the depreciating fiat is expected.
I would love to imagine how the people who bought a Tesla with bitcoin are regretting their decisions, I mean if we are talking about a 3 digit bitcoin price back then and that means that a lot of bitcoin was used to buy those sweet Tesla, if I guess the transaction might have been a third-party dealer. Elon is a businessman after all, he wants to have some hedge for the chances that fiat will collapse following the mismanagement of a lot of government during the pandemic, hopefully no collapse will ever happen because that means that more people are going to suffer.
1665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why was Musk so late to the party? / or Publically support BTC on: February 10, 2021, 01:55:33 PM
It's possible that Musk confirmed the truth of bitcoin and has been quietly analyzing about bitcoin and when bitcoin first printed a new ath there elon arrived on Twitter and then reported some altcoins that are currently popular are doge.
That took him time? If I were in his shoes, I would have bought when it was still looming the 20k price. I think the reason is that Elon is trying to make the board of some sort in his company Tesla to get on board with the idea of buying bitcoin, I mean Elon's hands are tied when it comes to that, he needs the approval of every stakeholder so there is no problem when things go south with his plan.
1666  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MicroStrategy’s Michael Saylor releases “Bitcoin for Everybody” free course on: February 10, 2021, 12:33:27 PM
in my opinion this will obviously be very helpful and provide broad insight into bitcoin, with this I feel he really pays attention to how everyone is looking for knowledge and all bitcoin related strategies, so he facilitates anyone to provide the knowledge he has to share and if this is free so it doesn't hurt to try to join.
It will be helpful but I think that a lot of the Twitter people are going to be skeptic about it since it is a free course and it comes from a businessman, we all know that there are people out there that doesn't believe that free is free and that a businessman will lie to the teeth to get what he/she wants but I do agree that it doesn't hurt to join, the only problem with this free course is either it is boring or the lessons will be shortened or left at a cliffhanger. I hope that this course will become successful and that it will reach even the people that are not particularly interested in the financial institution.
1667  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Hits Record $48.2K on: February 10, 2021, 11:35:23 AM
The richest man in the world just 10% of his company balance sheet into Bitcoin to avoid loss of purchasing power to inflation, we're going so much higher!

Other companies are almost forced to follow suit on the presumption that Elon has made a smart move - He has.

There is a rumor (from what I've been told is a reliable source) Apple, Google & Oracle are next.

Selling here (or ever) is madness.
Elon did the right thing because sooner or later, other rich people are going to be ahead of him if he didn't purchase that bitcoin at that time and I am sure that more will follow his footstep on buying one. Your rumor is a little scary but I am willing to believe that it will go up but I can't have this rumor dispel the possibility that prices will go down because there is still volatility in bitcoin and I don't think risking a lot will be the best move for now, safest play is to hodl.
1668  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 0.56% of BTC market cap are now held by public listed companies on: February 10, 2021, 10:29:05 AM
Kind of sad to read this news to be honest,,, I mean soon that will be 1% and then we all see the one percenters going right back into one percenter and get even richer. And not to mention the other whales who own much more who are not public listed companies.

While the rest of us still dream of 1 BTC haha:)
Too sad but that is the reality, we have no money to buy that much bitcoin at every price point and we didn't know how the market will get this big. I don't think that we don't have to worry about it though, this people will not make money that easily if they go for a dump, they will be planning something elaborate to make this thing look so natural trust me. Now that I have thought of it, with almost half of 1% is publicly listed, how much is really being held by the big ones, those that did not get theirs listed, the unknown is the more scary one.
1669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: (WallStreetBets) Tesla is now on top in CMC on: February 10, 2021, 09:24:06 AM
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Lol, it seems that you didn't get the sarcasm behind CMC's posting WSB and not Tesla on top of BTC.

Sometimes you need to read between the lines,  Grin. And it also shows the CZ is in the boat for the current hype, specially Elon Musk and his company.
Well, OP doesn't get it and you seem to not understand that what I am pertaining is OP's misleading title. This WSB listed on CMC is an old news, can you read the title? Tesla is now on top in CMC? Then in the thread starter, you see that it is Wallstreetbets. What exactly is the meaning behind those words eh? That OP wants to mislead the readers?
1670  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: (WallStreetBets) Tesla is now on top in CMC on: February 09, 2021, 01:56:38 PM
This is the most misleading title I have read so far, I mean what does Tesla got to do with WallStreetBets that you named it as the one on the top of Coinmarketcap? Obviously, it is a joke and I don't get the point. CMC is just happy that the people won over the hedge fund devils and it is just a tribute.
1671  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I messed up and feel terrible about it on: February 09, 2021, 12:40:51 PM
We all went there, we made mistakes and I think you should just accept what happened. You wish you could turn back time but you can't, better accept it and do something you can do now as long as the price is still increasing. The fact that you sold it means that you already have a profit, right? You still had a profit, that is just fine.
Yeah, happened to me two times now but now, I have to be a little greedy because I know that this rise is just getting started and I don't want to miss out something big although I am still putting a point where I am going to sell what I am hodling. That is what my friend said about me in regards to selling my bitcoin for two times, there is a profit so I don't have to worry about it, it's just that at that time the profit is not that big.
1672  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC back to All time high ..did you buy ? on: February 09, 2021, 10:58:24 AM
Well that was a powered breakout it's about to hit 50K USD worth asking how strong is the Tesla effect
It might go up to touch the 55k before the prices start wobbling up and down again. I didn't expect that the prices would go high this fast but good thing that I bought at around 28k before the prices started going up again. This will definitely be a big thing for the entrepreneurs that are following Elon and a lot of rumors about big companies are going to buy bitcoin anytime soon.
1673  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is an investment on: February 09, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
As an investment, you could try to utilize some of the profits to invest in other Alternate Cryptocurrencies that also has the potential to grow and surpass their current values. That is one way to earn more from the investment that you have made to Bitcoin since its all within a single industry. Another thing that we can do is create a physical business since that we can turn our Cryptocurrencies into tangible cash with a process and then by creating that business we could create more income and its not just from the Crypto Industry.
You have to be careful with this one advice though, the chances that an altcoin is a shitcoin is pretty high in most cases, they are just a fool's gold. What I think is a better way to grow the money is to invest it on gambling sites although the problem with this one is that there will be days that has losses but the profit outweighs it greatly, it is more better than just hodling your bitcoin and let it sit there and wait for the prices to grow when you can invest it. Take precaution as there are a lot of investment scams and it is best if you research and consult with people that have invested their bitcoin in a gambling site.
1674  Economy / Speculation / Re: Alert: Get ready to deal with FUDS about Bitcoin on: February 08, 2021, 12:43:23 PM
Cryptocurrency is not for panic people, crypto is created for people who have a strong mentality. We are already done with so many fud and now we still become king. Only people who don't know about the technology of Bitcoin can easily trust fud and make him panic

Be strong and keep holding
Get ready to tell that to the people that are to afraid to admit that they are prone to panics. The problem with FUDs is that it is relentless, everyone at the financial industry is taking a jab to make fun of bitcoin no matter where the prices are and the only thing that we can do about it is to ignore it. But besides steeling our selves against the rain of FUDs and panics from the community, we also need to be rational, we have to hear their side too, the rational to be exact. There are some out there that is clearly negative but we have to be objective and look at it in an objective way, that way we can find a way to coexist with this things, its easy to see a rational but opposing article because most of the time, a lot of FUDs are exaggerating and the rational ones are not a lot but easy to find.
1675  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1BTC Reaching 1million Still Unrealistic on: February 08, 2021, 11:18:02 AM
Total wealth is already 400 trillion and keeps growing. Right now 21 trillion would be ~5%, in some years it would be even less. It's not outside of realm of possibility of Bitcoin touching this price levels, all you have to do is get people to refuse to sell, then the demand would easily send Bitcoin to the moon just like it's happening now. Bitcoin being stable at 1 million is a whole different thing, we currently only achieved stability at $10,000 so maybe stability at 1 million would really never happen.
Easy to convince people on paper but convincing people not to give in to their greed is a difficult thing to do. If they see an increase, they will see it as an opportunity to sell because they believe that a high price means a crash is imminent, as if they are trying to relive what happened back in 2017-2018. The solution is to have more people to buy, introduce it to a bigger market, have the regressive government lift the ban on cryptocurrency and more people becomes free from buying cryptocurrency which increases the demand which in turn a reason for increase in the prices. 1 million USD per 1 bitcoin is the current dream but I think that we have a lot of things to think of before crossing that 2 comma club.
1676  Economy / Economics / Re: Need of the Hour : Tackle Joblessness on: February 08, 2021, 08:35:57 AM
The problem with the joblessness in America is that they are the cultural melting pot which means that a lot of people from all over the world are dreaming to go and work there especially the people that comes from poor countries and it is not their fault that they dream that, that was the American dream that was advertised. Another problem is the racism that is slowly rearing its head, it doesn't necessarily affect joblessness but there are American citizen that have different ethnicities and people are slowly regressing back to the dark part of their history dooming to repeat it, meaning that discriminating in job application and workplace itself becomes more prevalent because racist people was given a voice because of the Internet. But the biggest problem of them all is the systematic abuse that the 1% of the population are doing, making a big progress on automation without considering the displaced workers, salary is still the same for almost 12 years or so, tax write offs and being so privileged.
1677  Economy / Economics / Re: Global Wealth Disparity is going to cause a lot of issues soon on: February 08, 2021, 07:13:37 AM
Rather than complaining about being poor, these people should work hard for a living. I am someone who works for almost 70 hours per week and I find it strange when lazy people complain about their poverty. I pay my taxes to the government, while these free-loaders receive their handouts from that money. And don't make any assumptions. I am no way near rich.. I can't even afford a four-wheeler. Still I never complain about my financial condition. I have worked hard over the years to improve my standard of living.

On the other hand, some of my neighbors have 7-8 kids each and they don't do any work. But these people receive free housing, electricity, cooking has and cash handouts from the governments. My family doesn't receive any of that, because I am a tax payer. And after all this, there is a section among the free-loaders who are not satisfied with what they get.
Easy for you to say but people have a lot of differences, if hardwork was the answer, how come there are still people out there? Why is still homelessness is a problem. Sure, lazy people are an exception but if you think about it, it is pretty offensive to the people who are trying their best to earn money to survive, don't invalidate their struggles cause they are not you. This is not just a problem that only the individuals need to solve, the government should intervene if they want to destroy poverty, the big solution is to improve education and not just any education but an education that does not make factory workers or passive workers, we also should introduce sex education, it is already 21st century and people change, we are now comfortable about it. And if you are so mad about free loaders, can you not pay your taxes then so they wouldn't get your money?
1678  Economy / Economics / Re: Biden do even bigger stimulus on: February 08, 2021, 05:57:43 AM
The upcoming stimulus bill will likely have a positive effect on Bitcoin, but it won't be beneficial for the US economy and may lead to hyperinflation.
No, it won't lead to an inflation but if they continue not addressing the situation of printing money, a collapse is imminent. In short term, there won't be an inflation but that will just be a temporary fix, what USA needs to do right now is to have their people listen to the people that knows better in the pandemic, with more people not following the guidelines to prevent the further spread of pandemic then the further they go far from opening the economy without worrying about the virus. I do agree with the stimulus, definitely a lot of people who missed out on buying on the first stimulus will have to get in while bitcoin is still not that fairly high.
1679  Economy / Economics / Re: The billionaires who own bitcoins on: February 07, 2021, 02:29:56 PM
Pretty sure there are more than these people who are filthy rich and owns their very own bitcoins too but would rather enjoy their privacy than being a celebrity on the internet because they own bitcoin too. And the fact that more and more prominent figures are realizing the worth of bitcoin as an asset is a clear evidence that we are off to a good future my guys, this is the path that most sought after commodities like gold and oil took before they basically controlled the market.
They are what we call the shot callers or the people behind the curtain. This could be a disaster though, with more celebrities taking notice of bitcoin the people will be getting at the price point of market that they couldn't afford because a lot of celebrities and famous people are hodling one or more bitcoin and most of them can afford to buy at any price point. That doesn't include business personalities which sees bitcoin as a big hedge to make more money and we know that they are powerful because they can buy a lot of bitcoin. To everyone, that are still doubting on hodling bitcoin, this is the ripe time to buy one and get a piece of yours because the more the rich takes notice, the lesser the chances we can buy one at a reasonable prices.
1680  Economy / Economics / Re: All world banks need bitcoin now big solution on: February 07, 2021, 01:25:00 PM
That will not happen.

In the past, they hate the main existence of Bitcoin because of how it pumps its value saying that it is a bubble that would pop, or a currency to be used illegally, until now. That is why I don't think they will be relying on bitcoin or any cryptocurrencies as their solution. They will find their ways for that solution and I don't think it will be these cryptocurrencies.
Of course it won't happen, if banks want to transfer, they don't need to have a real money to do a transfer, what they need is that they are a legitimate entity and a little tweaks in the computer on the numbers of how much amount that entity has is enough for a transfer, and they still hate bitcoin and there is no way that this banks will cooperate with their nemesis knowing that if they ever do so, they will fail miserably. I think they had already found their solution and it is not bitcoin or cryptocurrencies but they are trying to replicate the system which is by far they haven't been successful thankfully.
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