it's actually just the matter of someone's personality , when you are a cool man and full of patient gamble would never be a sickness for them , there always a limit for them to play no matter what. but when you are a hotheaded , it would always makes you looks crazy . gambling uncontrolled here and there , use the money that even not belong to you , causing relationship between your friends broken etc. it's indeed a sickness.
Only a fool would act like that when they gamble. People only need to have a common sense to differ which one is right and which is wrong. Obviously gambling is not wrong and nor a sickness however when majority of gambler act like a fool when they lose, they actually made gambling looks really bad to others and yeah we are , everyone know the risk to gambling. you would lose money , get nothing when you want to have fun etc. and you have to responsibly on it , don't be a pussy but everytime you are out of control you choose to become a pussy who didn't care anything when gambling but feel sorry at the end of the story. that loop are so real right? it's sick! |
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At least a month or so. I would invest in an established casino that's been around for a long time and put your money in for at least a couple of months before you consider withdrawal.
I've been already investing for almost a year in 3-4 different sites, in a month you can expect from 2% to 5% on average, having higher profit than that or a loss is not likely. This can only be applied to established casinos with big enough bankrolls to be stable. Also I started recently investing in YOLOdice, they allow up to 10x leverage on investments, which I'm using and currently finding it pretty good for relatively small investments. it's requireda lot of patience to collect a profit from an investment like that , 2% to 5% monthly with nothing guarantee the site would live for long time enough or maybe exit scam? if you put small amount only then that investment would not worth , but when you want to put bigger amount to invest , the problem are you really want to trust that big money to a strange people? a strange site? well it's up to you. |
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I already lose my bitcoin from playing all the time i go to gambling website where i put my 0.2 bitcoin trying to doubled it when my new strategies in the first im winning the game trying to make more profit but then i already doubled up my bankroll and continue playing then i bet more bigger bets till i get greed and lose everything.
You should not go for profit if you are going to gamble or find some good website that you want to double that amount. It's better if you are going to trade that amount and grow it with yourself. And the main reason why most of us are not getting successful in gambling is that we are greedy. You should take the chance to be not greedy anymore in your next try. yeah it's actually a common case where someone actually have managed to doubled their money but can't handle the desire to keep playing to get more money. it's indeed the worst mistake , yeah a worst common mistake. i bet everyone have experienced something like this , but there's worse case when after your losing you force yourself to gamble with other people money and get a lot of debt. That's why most of us who gamble this way are just making a mistake. Because those casino's are even showing their leader boards, sometimes we want our names to be displayed as one of those high winners. But before to be on that board we need to go through with hardship and a lot of mistake that's why we keep on losing. it's not necessary when you want your name in the leaderboard considered as high roller or something , i mean really? it's childish. the real problem are on your winner mentality , it's zero! you can't be patient , earn low amount slowly but sure coumpounded. not keep spending it all in a single time and feel regret then. |
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Gambling is wrong if we use a borrowed money just for it and you don't work hard to earn money for your leisure hobbies. If we gamble we must make sure that we are having good income source so that we will not end up to financial problems in the future. So in order to make wrong impressions from gambling, we must be responsible enough to earn money before betting.
I agree to what you've said. When playing gambling you must use your own money because if you use the money that you borrowed and when it is all lose, you will not able to pay it and that time you have a credit in someone you borrowed. You must use your own money and learn to budget it and know your limits. Because gambling isn't just for betting all your money and then getting lose. It' s a matter of playing while earning and having fun without using all of your money.  yeah that's pretty true , gamble only the money you can afford to lose , people actually know about that basic rules but still they didn't stick on it . gambling make them out of control and causing a lot of trouble in their lives , that time gambling really have turned to something wrong from what supposed to. a place to get entertained. |
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If you want to turn gambling into profitable activity they try to build up your own casino as we know that house always win and once you are able to generate good traffic on your sites it will give you more profits and it will keep on increasing over a period of time.
You know build the own casino, it is not easy as you think, We need hard working and money, than may be we could build our own gambling site, and i don't think that everyone could do it. Because we could play gambling easily, but we couldn't build our own casino. Not everyone could afford it and also do it, only a few gamblers build own sites and earn from it. Building a casino is not the job of gambler. It the job of a businessman and to be a proper businessman we need to cross certain hurdles which only seasoned person can do and not a gambler. However for the capable person those hurdles would not seem much and they can easily make a new physical/online casino and earn from it. There would be requirements of gambling promotions at times and slowly but steadily they cab earn from it. yeah you're right , to gamble and to make a business in gambling industry are a different thing. you can't consider it as a way to make gambling profitable, it has in difference dimension. gambling on a game for long run really hard to make it as your income source , avoid considering gambling like that. if you want to earn profit steady then you better to looking for another way not gambling. |
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Well,for sure it will create a lot of chaos and people will panic so at first it may result in BTC losing some of it's worth.After that phase I suspect it will get a lot of attention and everyone will try to find a way how to buy BTC because let's be honest,BTC will always have it's supporters and people who really believe in it.And it's hard for BTC to be banned on a big level,yeah some country may ban it but it won't make a huge difference,things are being banned litereally every day
no it won't , actually the scenario happened few years ago when several county officially stated the government againt any bitcoin activity . russia and china two biggest country in the world done this before , but you know instead the price dropped it's even keep growing and until now there's no huge effect when some country declared to ban bitcoin , you know what? bitcoin are decentralized , government have no effect at all. |
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So, I heard the song from Nickelback titled "if today was your last day?"
I thought if today was my last day, would I gamble everything since I wouldn't have any use for this money when I die.
My answer was no at the time. Because I was thinking about my family, especially my kid. What would he eat tomorrow, if I lose everything? Then again, what if I win from just one yolo bet? Like bet every penny I have in one bet. What if I win that and give my kid twice what I could give.
What do you guys think?
Gambling would be last thing on my mind. I would spend that day with my family and at the end of the day i would go to bet with my wife, spend few minutes of quality time with her and I would die happy Yeah , dying with the hands of your family or love ones is the best last day if you know. It is better than gambling ,that is the most worst scenario out of nothing .You waste your last day at the same time money and the time to lend a time who wants to be with you until your last breath . I would do the same as you think but i spend my all time not only a few minutes with them . it seems a desperated statement when you say would like to gamble if it was your last day of life. there's indeed a lot of better thing than gambling. life basically aren't just about money money and money , it's more than that. love are one of many reasons why you survive . i would feel full of regret when i'm die in a casino , it's embarassing no pride at all lol. |
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Depending on what people invest in I think it's better over the long term. Gambling can also be good but I think there is more risk in gambling then there is in investing. Gambling can be good if people win big and have good bankroll management as it can be very profitable over the long term as well but for me i don't mind both but would prefer investing over gambling.
I think its good to invest in gambling sites instead of trying your luck directly in gambling as it will make you loose in long run but if you invest in good casino sites then you can expect regular profits as house always win so you can also win along with it so if I have to choose between gambling and investing then my first priority would be to invest money. True but like I said if you know how to mange your bankroll and not get too greedy making up for loses then people should be able to make a profit in the long term gambling, I'm more so talking about sports betting then playing at a casino. I agree that if people invest in casino sites then yes the long term should turn out a profit as casinos always seem to win and make profit. i have done managed bankroll for years and so far it's not as good as people said , idk if my bankroll management skill that bad or what . but i can say when you gamble against the long term it's really hard to survive to keep it always in profit , at some point you would have suffering some big losses that you can't afford. investment always a better option rather than have to gamble it directly by yourself. |
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Hello everyone, thank you for your votes, I will update the rankings as soon as I can, with these new votes Hello everyone, all votes have been updated until this post.
As you can see in the opening post, I've changed things a bit, to make the rankings more accurate.
For a SportsBook to be added to the rankings, they will have to reach at least 5 votes. That number will increase as we get more votes.
For transparency reasons, I used the second post of this thread, to keep only the sportsbooks that are still bellow the minimum number of votes.
how about create a logs in the second post? to make it more transparent  What do you mean create a log? Keeping a table with both top voted and the SportsBook that still don't have the minimum number of votes? Because you already have that information, if you combine the top post with the second post. All SportsBook are there, with their rankings and votes. If it's something else, please explain, because I did not understood. every changes you made should be in the changelog , for example you can refer to this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0 , so people would know that there's no manipulation on the rating  keep up the good work fruegreads. |
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when there of manipulation in trading you still have funds but in gambling when there was manipulation your funds will be lost and nothing left so I think skill-based gambling more risky
Even it's called with "Skill" based games that isn't 100% relay with skill, about 50% is reserved for luck (Good Card and Turn or something like that). In gambling, if you were lose you'd lose all of your money but trading is not. However, we can't tell these are same because they are pretty different in terms of mechanism and market. yeah it's actually depend on how good you are on , when you have no idea to trade properly then it's just same as when you gamble on pure luck games. and that's true even a skill based games in gambling there's still required luck , as gambling always about something uncertain , a skills or a strategy just a way to make it more possible to win , to make bigger chance to win not to make it guaranteed to win. |
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I really don't dream on becoming rich through gambling and so i am not having these sort of vague dreams.There might be people winning a huge amount of money through gambling and it is because they are lucky enough to win them .Since i do not dare to win money like that i am not a rich person through gambling.
The way you're good enough. But than I had ever experienced, that sometimes what you say can make you do what you really forbid it. Because in the gambling no one can control themselves, without the presence of a strong self encouragement to get out of gambling. If you've done gambling for 4 hours a day, then it is certain that you can get a disaster if you are not in control of myself I disagree that no one can control themselves in gambling. If you have enough willpower and the right encouragement from the right people could really help a lot. Don't make yourself addicted because it could lead to destruction of your relationships. gambling always makes your natural attitude come out and it was greedy. when talking about money , make profit we are as an ordinary human would always feel never enough , that's why when you gamble regularly it's very often you just ended up with a losing instead a winning. greedy always there messed up everything. |
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I consider both reason. I play it for fun and also for profit. But most of the time, running after money or profit through gambling brings a great negative effect actually. In fact, i faced much losses.
So if it is not for money, it cannot be not for fun. Because, once you have invested into this, you will be addicted to this.
But if the emotion can be controlled by fun instead of profit, there will be no risk of losing money i think as i have did it before.
I play for fun and I use my own money to do this. The meaning of playing for fun is actually you enjoy the game and you dont really play to be rich in a single night because of it. Sure , I do loves winning some money however the amount that I win is quite low therefore Im not really obsessed with being rich from it you don't have to always get a winning to having fun in gambling right? if you know well how to enjoy the game you would understand. it's indeed addictive game , but as long as you stay on the limit lines i guess nothing to worry to become addicted gambler. just gamble and walk away with smile no matter what the result in the end of the game better than have to gamble like a mad to earn profit. |
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Bitcoin is truly making a difference in the usage accessibility of currency. This has made bitcoin get added to the list of currency that exist and in usage around the globe. Business people fear about the fluctuations but soon we can expect positive impacts felt on usage as currency.
Indeed bitcoin is making progress day by day as you have mentioned only thing most of us worry is the small fluctuation which happens once in a while and big panic created by some people who literally force most of newbie to sell their bitcoin without realizing that the drop in the value is just temporary. bitcoin todays is growing in every where and we can see that many people is interesting with bitcoin. i am sure that they know about bitcoin from many program investment around them so they are attracted to bitcoin world. because from what i read in many news, the investment programs using bitcoin for the transactions and this is why people which join into the programs know about bitcoin. bitcoin itself has a perfect concept about how money would work in the future . but as time goes by , nowadays bitcoin become more popular as an investment option rather than an online payment processor option. a little bit unfortunate actually , but help a lot. we just need to remind everyone that the real purpose of bitcoin invention are for making a better way to do a transaction anytime anywhere. |
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Congratulations to the happy winner, it is almost unreal that someone can achieve 136,000 percent profit. But I really would like to know how big chunk of total bankroll of CloudBet that win took. Also, why is this not posted in the cloudbet thread in the gambling section? Maybe their representative on bitcointalk is not that active? I just learned about this now. So I am sure that now we will have discussion in their official thread as well. yeah since it has been posted on the cointelegraph i think it's enough to show how legit it was. pretty cool to anyone who able to achieve that superluck to win super huge amount of money on an unexpected winning game. i just didn't like much to gamble at couldbet since few years ago due its slow respond customer service. |
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Yes, I would like playing in low rollover casinos like 30-35x rollover/wager requirement. You know too high rollover will bust our deposit and bonus easily, therefore the lower the more likely to earn money from bonus.
sportsbetting always offers lower wagering requirement it's around 10 to 15 i guess , just check coinbet24 they offering sportsbet deposit bonus. no wonder why they offering lower wagering req rather than casino bonus , sportsbetting has bigger house edge actually if you know well. but if you have special ability to place a bet in sports then you might have to try non casino deposit bonus. |
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As of now investing Bitcoin directly is not advisable to do because there are a lot of scams and hyips our there almost all of them will run away your money before you reach your ROI. It is also not advisable to put your Bitcoin and exchange it for any altcoin because there is a lot of pump and dump coins out there. The risk you are taking is not the equivalent to the reward you are looking for.
People always chase the risky way when it comes to whatever kind of investments. It's the promised returns that matter, where after that nothing else is important. Even when they know that they are putting money in an obvious scams isn't a problem for them. It's a nasty attitude. People putting money into scams are equally as bad as the operators from my point of view. the bigger risk you take the bigger potential profit you would take and there's no harm to take a risk as long as it wasn't a sure scam service, investment always talking about how good you are in make a decision to take a risk. nowadays ICO project become popular and people start to put their money on it but then the scam ICO popping up at the same time too , so you have to stay safe and becareful. |
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Speaking the level of riskiness i could really say that binary options does really have higher risk on losing money but if you are confident that you have proper knowledge specially on forex trading you will surely catch it up because i do know some good pro forex traders who are earning also on binary options.
Proper knowledge will help ? In binary trading, I do not think so. Because in highly fluctuating market conditions, it would be really equivalent to suciding action to touch the trades. Binary options are available for both Forex trading as well as for bitcoin trading. But it will not work with your knowledge because it is just a gambling but in trading style. Better avoid it. A binary option is like a bet on a bet. It is a kind of derivative that make you gamble on the movements of the market.
Yes without doubts, binary trading is more similar to gambling. When traders are looking for less risk involved platforms, it would be highly recommended not to go for it. the point for me there's hard to verify which one the most reliable market parameter used by the binary trading site provider? every second price movement seems like just a visual only to show it was trading not gambling , but what i feel when do binary trading , there's feels like a house edge. anyone else feel the same thing as me? |
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Everyone who enters gambling for the first time is because of two reasons, sometimes someone needs the thrill of emotion and this kind of person can quit whenever he wants. The other reason is despair and when someone enters gambling because of this , gambling makes his life worse. It is proven that such people cannot stop gambling and they borrow money or even steal money to gamble. These persons needs to be cured.
it's actually just the matter of someone's personality , when you are a cool man and full of patient gamble would never be a sickness for them , there always a limit for them to play no matter what. but when you are a hotheaded , it would always makes you looks crazy . gambling uncontrolled here and there , use the money that even not belong to you , causing relationship between your friends broken etc. it's indeed a sickness. |
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The best thing to do with your bitcoin is don't use it unless you need it. And at the same time you are doing a good thing already and that is holding it. Because if you will keep on holding it, that will make sense and if you want to use it for something important then use it that way. Don't use it for the things that will make you regret. Invest and diversify it.
It is right and okay if we'll gonna use bitcoin at the same time, let us just treat bitcoin to use as one way of our living not just an investment. It's main purpose is bitcoin to be our one of the currency we usually spend, the more we spend and use it the more bitcoin has becoming popular. Let us keep that way use bitcoin in balance way. Yes, balancing it the way you want it to be will be a good thing. Just always make sure that you'll spend it in a way that you will actually benefit on it. Also there are times that you need to take time and relax and gamble some of it (only if you take to gamble and just gamble what you afford to lose). But if you are scared on losing those coins, just store it. basically there's a lot of benefit you can get when use bitcoin , when the price going up and up it's the best option for anyone to invest in bitcoin for long term and when you decide to spend it , you would feel spend half of the real price as when you bought bitcoin the value not yet increased. yeah the power of volatile price. investment for future plan are needed but spend it daily like to do online shopping etc also more important. |
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I already lose my bitcoin from playing all the time i go to gambling website where i put my 0.2 bitcoin trying to doubled it when my new strategies in the first im winning the game trying to make more profit but then i already doubled up my bankroll and continue playing then i bet more bigger bets till i get greed and lose everything.
You should not go for profit if you are going to gamble or find some good website that you want to double that amount. It's better if you are going to trade that amount and grow it with yourself. And the main reason why most of us are not getting successful in gambling is that we are greedy. You should take the chance to be not greedy anymore in your next try. yeah it's actually a common case where someone actually have managed to doubled their money but can't handle the desire to keep playing to get more money. it's indeed the worst mistake , yeah a worst common mistake. i bet everyone have experienced something like this , but there's worse case when after your losing you force yourself to gamble with other people money and get a lot of debt. |
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