Dark, I got in just fine a few minutes ago.
i still cant get on to hashnest.com still keep getting weird looking text format text looks like it belongs in cell phone from the late 90s using only text links. I tired everything so not sure what is up i will try from a different computer later on |
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Well i got email from havelock today telling me i can buy amhash on hashie website now. Kinda makes me think havelock no longer will be doing the amhash fund or they just trying to send people over to hashie.com  |
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I think what it is in reality is, is snake oil. The author himself said it yesterday or before, when someone had the audacity to ask for more information before today, as to what exactly it is we are buying; the response was, well you can't have details of something that has been offered yet, and you can either buy it tomorrow or not. Our customers trust us and believe we deliver what we promise, so there. Trust me and buy it or don't.
Isn't snake oil a fake product t begin with? In this case he offers something he vouches for, that to you may seem fake, but at the same time can turn out to be real. If you trust in snake oil you are bound to lose money, with GAW the outcome is unknown, so a better comparison is gambling. So paycoin will reach $20 next month and Bitcoin isn't viable? ok get with the program Bitpop IF gaw says paycoin is going to surpass bitcoin in one to three months in volume and price then i am sure it is. If you cant believe that then someone needs to refill your kool aid drink and eye drops  so you can see the truth |
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Ignore this obsessive-compulsive nutcase.
HUH? you have to be more specific as to who you are talking about as when you say that people can think you talking about anyone. Hell i can even think you talking about me lol  |
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wow it is incredbile to see some of the new accounts come n here with such a mouth on them. If they are legit new accounts then not the best way to build good reputation and avoid people not wanting to help. If scam account then dont really matter i suppose since noone will care in the end |
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My best advice for new users regarding cloud mining is to be very careful. Most, if not all, of these cloud mining sites are either scams or money losers.
Keep these in mind if you are considering cloud mining:
1. A cloud mining site is a prime opportunity for a Ponzi scheme. Customers pay a bunch of money up front and don't expect a profit for several months.
2. "Instant mining" sites don't make sense because the operator makes more money if they don't sell their hashing power to you.
3. The rising difficulty means your hash power will earn less and less over time.
4. Maintenance fees are usually more expensive than they seem. The maintenance fee could exceed your mining revenue in just a few months.
5. Cloud mining contracts that start in the future must be valued using the future difficulty, and not the current difficulty.
I would disagree on item 2. If you have peta-hashes of mining hardware, selling stock shares instead of selling hardware can make a good sense under certain circumstances. In order for number 2 to be invalid the cloud mining company would need to sell the mining contract at a price that is positive NPV for the cloud mining company. One thing that factors into something's NPV is the discount rate, which may be different for the customer and the company, so something can be positive NPV for both the customer and the company (at least in theory) i agree with what you saying to some extent, but then again you did say in theory so i guess we in the same pafe. I think we just have to wait and see what the future brings to this cloud mining services.  Well another way to look at it is that the two of you (the buyer and the cloud mining company) could have different viewpoints as to how much difficulty will rise over the term of the contract. If your estimate/assumption is lower then that of the cloud mining company then you both could calculate that the transaction will be profitable for both of you thats why i tend to look for cloud mining that offers lifetime contracts or at the least 5 years plus. I dont do that 6 month 1 year or 2 years cause i dont see profit period. |
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Well shit, AMHash is cheaper per GHs over at Hashie, and you get 10 GHs free to sign-up Of course it is. Unlike AMHash, Hashie is actually trying to sell AMHash contracts. See that just blows my mind why are they not trying to sell amhash more productice on havelock website. I rather deal with havelock direct but i only say that cause i am worried hashie is to new of a company with no reputation. |
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WELL is anyone having a hard time logging on to website for hashnest? I get 404 error and when i do get on it looks like a website that would be displayed in a cell phone from 1995. I have been having this issue for like 8 hours.
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My best advice for new users regarding cloud mining is to be very careful. Most, if not all, of these cloud mining sites are either scams or money losers.
Keep these in mind if you are considering cloud mining:
1. A cloud mining site is a prime opportunity for a Ponzi scheme. Customers pay a bunch of money up front and don't expect a profit for several months.
2. "Instant mining" sites don't make sense because the operator makes more money if they don't sell their hashing power to you.
3. The rising difficulty means your hash power will earn less and less over time.
4. Maintenance fees are usually more expensive than they seem. The maintenance fee could exceed your mining revenue in just a few months.
5. Cloud mining contracts that start in the future must be valued using the future difficulty, and not the current difficulty.
I would disagree on item 2. If you have peta-hashes of mining hardware, selling stock shares instead of selling hardware can make a good sense under certain circumstances. In order for number 2 to be invalid the cloud mining company would need to sell the mining contract at a price that is positive NPV for the cloud mining company. One thing that factors into something's NPV is the discount rate, which may be different for the customer and the company, so something can be positive NPV for both the customer and the company (at least in theory) i agree with what you saying to some extent, but then again you did say in theory so i guess we in the same pafe. I think we just have to wait and see what the future brings to this cloud mining services. |
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I want to bet on the next diff rise which is in ~7 days. I say it will be below 0.
ok, so the bet I proposed. You're on, 0.1 BTC, I say it will be above 0. (And if its precisely zero, I suggest we both donate to a charity :p) Time to turn on my 100PH machine! Ok. Damn this is proving an exciting bet. Bitcoin Difficulty: 40,300,030,328 Estimated Next Difficulty: 40,253,144,000 (-0.12%) Even if I lose, its money well spent just for entertainment purpose FWIW, I do expect to lose. I think bitcoinwisdom is extrapolating the recent spike in to a trend, and Im not convinced there is such trend, might as well be random noise. If I check blockexplorer, which just averages without assuming a trend, its predicting 39.8B. So my 100PH machine better start delivering some blocks to make up for that shortfall :p. I tried to join in on the bet saying would go down but never got answer to my 2 posts. So i assume you was not interested puppet so i just moved on lol. I still do hope diff goes down well not hope but think it will go down. |
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Still nothing new about them Gen1 Miners?
NO. i think we have to wait a few weeks. They dont say anything about the time I do also think will be few weeks but we will see |
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got my investment back and i still own 6TH. ROI and profit achieved within 30days. good luck folks!
edit: My bad, 5TH not 6TH
How much did you start with?! Must have been a lot. At max i had around 35 - 36TH after amhash2 IPO about 12TH were bought in AMhash1 but about 6TH were sold between amhash1 and amhash2 and some were bought during what i saw as price drops, basically a bit of trading & the help of dividends..... edit: after updating the spreadsheet, it's more about 4.25TH, I am actually about 0.9BTC away from ROI, still about 10% profit from the BTC invested in 30days. hell that is still a good time frame so i say you will roi maybe in less than 10 days. I am just assuming numbers not doing any actual math so for all i know you might roi tomorrow or by monday |
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i wonder if there will be promotions for cyber monday, i think should have some good deals but i might be wrong so who knows only time will but we can only hope
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Trading with no fee, thank you very much Bitmain I don't understand why people stay at cex.io cex.io = trading fee and less earning per Gh/s ... I think that UMISO will grow up and cex.io GH/S pull down quickly. Agreed, although the hashnest interface is not the most friendly trading platform there is. I think they will add fees though later on, that is what the trend seems to be. I'd like to see more development into hashnest, more cryptocurrencies too. You can't beat the prices though i agree with this cex.io at on point had humble start but once got to big so did the fees and maint. I do still like how cex lets you trade other coins and how they are mining 4 coins at once granted not popular coins still nice to have lol, i know im greedy. I do think hashnest needs to improve interface for users some. Also they need to add 2FA for sms text, if they already have it for texts please let me know i might have missed it. |
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I think GAW is creating a totally new trend in crypto: instead of people running after the next alt coin, they now run after an icon in their browser with fancy names that are a random combination of hash/stake/prime/zen-let. GAW just needs to come up with a nice new name / icon every once in a while to get all the cash flow they need  They should just start selling these: https://hashtalk.org/topic/20089i see some serious copyright issues here, anyone able to contact Marvel comics and have them confirm that the licence has been granted to use some of those images? GAW are criminals. really only marvel comics? I see dc commics playboy, paramount, disney, pixar, nfl , lucas films to name a few that would have a problem with this. They might want to sue the hell out of gaw not sure if it would do any good since gaw has powerful friends in congress and banking sectors and tech sectors. They might just do a settlement and all be paid out in hashpoints who knows |
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i was wondering the same thing other people have said. If this site was run by same people who run other sites listed above and i guess i got my answer. I kinda had feeling that it was the same as the payout was pretty much the same as in click here get 1 free then you got to buy more blah blah
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•No-drops in payouts for their entire lifespan.
•Complete immunity to difficulty increases.
•Zero maintenance fees. Forever!
•The highest payouts of any miner, period.
•Customizable - only buy what you need.
•Guaranteed 99.99% uptime.
LOL this is like magic how does something not get affected by difficulty rise and payouts always the same. Hell if btc did this then people could still be using gpus from the start days
No difficulty increase because you paid GAW money. It is all crap. The ponzi was running out of btc to pay the minions so they had to cook up another cock and bull piece of crap to dupe the lemmings into handing over more cash to fund the payouts in zen cloud. Like anything else without a foundation (i.e. most likely no mining is actually behind conducted) this whole scheme will come crashing down and Josh and the GAW crew will be living in Brazil where there is no extradition. LOL that is funny and sad but i am sure true. I would like to point out one thing though, being in Brazil would be a vacation as it is nice down there in some parts. Also they do extradite to the USA but i provided list of countries that dont. I can picture them running from law in some place like Niger. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_law_in_the_United_States |
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https://hashtalk.org/topic/20144/am-i-right-to-be-scepticalWhat a prick. He wan't everyone to buy his shit before he even tells them what flavor of shit he's selling them. Who doesn't know about products before they are released? And who the hell "invests" in something they know nothing about because one guy says it's gonna be great? Oh wait. I know. Every single last one of his sheep after they beg, borrow and steal every last nickle they can get their hands on to throw at him. I made a new logo for hashtalk:  like the tv ad for that car insurance says " ohhhh you almast had it, you got to try harder " this is so perfect expecially the sad fact it is showing little kids in there to. The must be spending all the xmas money just to buy the best hashlet of the month or week at this rate. |
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•No-drops in payouts for their entire lifespan.
•Complete immunity to difficulty increases.
•Zero maintenance fees. Forever!
•The highest payouts of any miner, period.
•Customizable - only buy what you need.
•Guaranteed 99.99% uptime.
LOL this is like magic how does something not get affected by difficulty rise and payouts always the same. Hell if btc did this then people could still be using gpus from the start days
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