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1701  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2016, 11:31:57 AM
Can someone explain why dump 4500K BTC on the market with such slippage.
Where did you see this dump?
1702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: October 25, 2016, 08:48:55 AM
Ethereum has a problem again :s
cannot synchronize nor parity nor geth
Should wait for transaction very long...
If it will ever be fixed?
However price is stable over 0.018

In the first part you've explained why price is stable. People just can't transfer their ETHFs to the exchanges and sell them out.
1703  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2016, 09:22:23 PM
Which type of gold ?

The paper type ? It's available in unlimited supply.

The physical type ? It's un-tradeable in any significant quantity.

Only investment grade physical gold. It is tradeable everywhere!
1704  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2016, 09:03:38 PM
Gold is not the ultimate money. It has failed miserably, for example, to signal the massive amounts of fiat monetary expansion that's gone on in recent years which is one of its primary roles as a monetary asset.

You're wrong. Keep both gold and bitcoin in your portfolio!
1705  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2016, 08:34:14 PM
(Sorry Mike. Loved your videos. The theory's perfect, you just identified the wrong asset.

Sorry guys but you don't get it. Bitcoin will not be used the way you imagine. Bitcoin will not be used directly as money between merchants and consumers. Different tokens based on bitcoin and backed by bitcoin will be used in competing payment systems where moving bitcoin on the blockchain will be the settlement layer. Gold will always be the ultimate money. The only but very important advantage of bitcoin compared to gold is that bitcoin is cheaper to audit and provide proof of reserves.
1706  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Large Bitcoin Collider (Collision Finders Pool) on: October 24, 2016, 02:14:17 PM
Please define your pool.

Thanks!

sky

This is pretty simple actually. The purpose of the pool is to cause a drop in bitcoin price so that rico and the likes buy back the bitcoins they have sold out at much lower level.


no, rico is trying to find a key from an address of the first tansaction so that he can claim to be satoshi when he sign with this key.

SCNR

That would be the jackpot, of course. But really interesting question is who is providing the pile of money to be burnt out in unproductive hashing?
1707  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Large Bitcoin Collider (Collision Finders Pool) on: October 24, 2016, 10:12:47 AM
Please define your pool.

Thanks!

sky

This is pretty simple actually. The purpose of the pool is to cause a drop in bitcoin price so that rico and the likes buy back the bitcoins they have sold out at much lower level.
1708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: October 23, 2016, 11:32:51 AM
Ethereum is as solid as a rock. It will not be swayed with some bitcoin pumps.

Yes, but in contrast to bitcoin ETHF pumps don't work. Every attempt is quickly and impatiently sold out.
1709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: October 22, 2016, 04:41:51 PM
We don’t know who is doing this, but it feels like a large nation state. China or Russia would be my first guesses.

US or UK would be my first guesses. They need a contingency plan to shut down Internet and introduce martial law when dollar-based financial system implodes and trillions of dollars and pounds in banks evaporate.
1710  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 19, 2016, 04:58:21 PM

If that is the case some people were fooled to sell their bitcoins. Smart people are buying at every drop.
1711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: October 19, 2016, 03:39:21 PM
There will be again fork?

Fork after fork after fork after fork... Welcome to the Beginning.
1712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: October 17, 2016, 04:26:26 PM
Hardfork countdown

https://fork.codetract.io


ETHC, ETHF... Well, 2 ethereum coins is not enough. We shall have a third ethereum coin now ETHF2. Which exchange will start trading it first?
1713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: October 15, 2016, 02:22:19 PM
The people who made those huge profits, got very upset and simply threw a huge tantrum.

And the people who made those huge losses got very happy...
1714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: October 12, 2016, 06:55:04 PM

Friggin ETH!!! Why won't you go down!?!?!?!?

All I want is a few thousand cheap eth in my bag. Is that too much to ask?

Patience. Everybody will have as much ETHF as they want.
1715  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Anyone using LBC on Linux 32bit? on: October 12, 2016, 01:39:04 PM
@becoin: *plonk* - I'm really too busy now and cannot put additional effort in your education on top of all that. Sorry.
It's okay. Never mind.
You're so obsessed in finding a collision that I have to ask out of curiosity. Which one is true - you've already sold out all your bitcoins or you never had one?
1716  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Holy. Shit. on: October 12, 2016, 01:18:28 PM
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I do not require you to prove this NOT being a collision.

Of course, you don't. You just say I'm talking BS if I can't prove this is NOT a collision...

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you made the statement "This is NOT a collision" which you cannot prove, so your statement is bullshit.

See? The DK level stays the same.
1717  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Holy. Shit. on: October 12, 2016, 11:57:15 AM
Roll Eyes Ok Gonzo, you beat me to it:

Firstly, what you claim you've found is not a collision. Hence the name of your 'project' is misleading.

Why is it not a collision? How do YOU prove the PK used when this address was generated was not different from the PK found now?
At a time, when you by all means most certainly don't know ANY of the PKs. What is it, you do not understand in this statement:

Quote from: rico666
It may very well be, that he used an entirely different PK (of the 296) for this address (because this one is a little bit shitty), so I assume providing ANOTHER PK to this address would count as good proof - wouldn't it?

You see - to me, the fact that you are writing many, but short and shitty (= not well thought out) texts just proves you to be some kind of poor miserable existence. Usually I do not waste my time with your kind, because there are way too many like you. So - heaven help - try to understand what this is all about, what's being written/said and THINK about it. I know it's quite a lot of text and it may be hard for you. Just try. It is ok, if you give it more time, because it seems you need more. (In everyday pool operation, I see that missing processing power can be counterbalanced by throwing more time at it.)

And secondly, how will you prove the 'rightful' owner of the PK you've found is actually not... you?

Another "I just vomited something without even spending a microsecond thinking about it".

Or maybe you are heavily infested with Dunning–Kruger and do not even know what to think about. Let me help:

Proving the non-existence of something is impossible. That is BTW also the reason why there is the presumption of innocence. You cannot prove you are innocent, you can only be proven guilty. Understood? I sure hope so.

I cannot prove to not have been the "rightful" owner of the found PK, but there is evidence now and in the future to support the claim it is an original not-belonging-to-me-or-someone-I-know PK.

Let's get some pedantic semantics out of the way first:

Now that I found it, I may very well be considered "co-owner" already.
If the PK found is not the original PK used (remember? there are like 296 PKs to every address) I am at the moment the sole owner of the PK found.

Ok - here comes the evidence your honor:

The unspent output is from May 2014. If you think I staged this up 2 years before I even thought about starting the project, I feel flattered. You must certainly think I am some long-term planning mastermind genius. Thank you. Unfortunately, that doesn't change what I think about you - sorry.

Not only would I have to do this at a time when I was doing completely different things, I would also have to rely on a shitty 50bit 45.x bit PK to hold for over 2 years. So I would not only be a long-term planning mastermind genius, I would also have ballz of steel. Again, thank you, thank you. But no - I didn't.

Now would be/is a really a bad time to pull something like that off. I am in the middle of releasing the next LBC and in fact today morning, I 1st checked my private messages with beta tester reports before I realized that FOUND.txt file when I wanted to fix the bugs. I also write the new manual etc. etc. Lots of work, bad time. Bad timing.

First I even thought it was another hash160 found from the puzzle transaction, when I saw it had funds on it, I thought it might have been the bounty that yo-blin announced and only when I saw the date, I realized this is different. Sure. All this is no "proof", only describing the situation as it was.

If in the future really someone comes along and presents a PK that is different from what has been found, you will a) have collision proof b) very strong evidence this is genuine. Until then, shut the fuck up unless you have to say something of importance.

Rico

Wow... a  page of insults.

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Why is it not a collision? How do YOU prove the PK used when this address was generated was not different from the PK found now?

If YOU claim there is a collision YOU have to prove there is a second PK. How can I prove something does NOT exist?

Let me answer with your own words:

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Proving the non-existence of something is impossible. That is BTW also the reason why there is the presumption of innocence. You cannot prove you are innocent, you can only be proven guilty. Understood?

Understood? Who is heavily infested with Dunning–Kruger now?

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If in the future really someone comes along and presents a PK that is different from what has been found, you will a) have collision proof b) very strong evidence this is genuine. Until then, shut the fuck up unless you have to say something of importance.

Easy, Your Majesty. Easy! Next time increase the font size as well, bolding this text is not enough!

Again, why should I prove something does not exist? YOU have to present a second PK for the same address. Only then there is a collision. Only then, YOU can prove your point. And until then, I stand right in my assumption that this project is a waste of time and money, and the title is misleading!
1718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: October 11, 2016, 07:38:01 PM
So what is better choice now? To use geth or parity?
Best choice is to use ETHC instead of ETHF.
1719  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Holy. Shit. on: October 11, 2016, 09:25:24 AM
@becoin: Too bad I see just "this user is ignored". Perhaps you should have spilled out less shit. Maybe someone else can answer you - I'm not in the mood to unignore you right now.

It is convenient but childish way to avoid reasonable questions. People that ignore me usually end up wasting their time and money.

Today bitcoin price is up and I'm in a good mood. I'm sorry you're in a depressed mood right now.
1720  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Holy. Shit. on: October 11, 2016, 08:25:50 AM
Hi I stay gift on the secret page directory.io for check
I think it will be found this about one week  Wink

You wrote this October 5th and although a week is almost over,
I assume you are not talking about
https://blockchain.info/address/1PVwqUXrD5phy6gWrqJUrhpsPiBkTnftGg
because this has been deposited in May 2014.

I swear I have nothing to do with this address - except my client found its private key tonight!

I must admit, I am still quite puzzled, because if things are as they seem (to me), this would be the 1st real (like in real real) PK found by the pool. Is this for real or am I still not fully awake?

Damned be the TODO - I thought we would have more time to sort that out.
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Ok, how to proceed if I find something?

The most important thing is to handle your knowledge about the found private key as if it was yours. I.e. under no circumstances is that key to be announced anywhere publicly. You may have good intentions, but you never know who's listening. See if you can contact the person behind the address you have found the key to. TODO: Reference to a best practice approach of contacting the owner has to be elaborated/added.

I know - I wrote this text, but it is bad. So what will be the process? I looked up various European national regulations for finders-keepers.
There is a deadline of 6 months after which the finder gains the ownership if the original owner does not show up or make a claim.
If the value of the found is less than 10EUR (Germany), this deadline runs from the day found which would be today.
Still, the original owner can claim  it back for a period of 3 years. Here's what I think - so far - should be done:

  • I transferred the funds to 16cFBcM27DGriyvz5i8SLmd8n5ai8hCTEE
  • When the confirmations are through, I may or may not (should I? What are the pros/cons?) publish the PK
  • I have of course no intention to keep these funds (like $5 dollar atm)
  • If the rightful owner does show up within the 6-month period, I will even round up that sum to 0.01 BTC and give that back.
  • If no one will show up within the 6 months, the funds will go as pool bounty to its members.
  • If - after that - the owner should appear within 3 years, I will transfer these 0.007899 BTC back to him regardless

Phew. I'm glad this has happened with such a small sum. Honestly, I pulled this process out of my nose today morning, so I'd really really appreciate if the Bitcoin community could work out some "standard" to this. I've looked up the forums and this case seems so exotic, that most of the takes on it is really just nonsense blah blah.

So:

How can one make clear he is actually the rightful owner? Just stating "It's me" obviously won't cut it.
It may very well be, that he used an entirely different PK (of the 296) for this address (because this one is a little bit shitty), so I assume providing ANOTHER PK to this address would count as good proof - wouldn't it?


Rico


Firstly, what you claim you've found is not a collision. Hence the name of your 'project' is misleading. And secondly, how will you prove the 'rightful' owner of the PK you've found is actually not... you?
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