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181  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Internet Marketing on: August 20, 2015, 10:33:33 PM
The webowners that pay for Google promotion > Adwords appear at places for Adwords, indeed, also on top of the search results. However, Google argues that it does not matter whether you pay or not; this does not influence your place in the search results.

(If you pay, you can get in the advertisement spaces. However, this does not influence how your website is rated by Google, according to Google)..

google can say whatever they wants.... i dodnt beleive them and people should beleive on them Smiley

as i already sayd, obviously this is his business and as his business they will not loss money if they can get it, since we are talking about google, but dont be wrong with me man, im with you, as i already sayd too, everthing that is in your hands, should be done.

We indeed should not believe all these parties Wink. However, we can't do anything about it. I think Google does already know way too much about us all, but that is another discussion.

More on topic, SEO optimalization is really neccesary in order to run a good internet marketing campaign as you will experience a lot more traffic: as your easier to find. Next to that, if you want to sell a product of service, go look for Affiliate Marketing too. Although it will cost you a few %% per sale / lead, it will provide you a nice extra income (and profit, if you maintain these campaigns well).
182  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [S]STEAM GAMES(GTA V $43 Steam- $36.5 rockstar)- DOTA2-CSGO Items FOR BTC/WMZ on: August 20, 2015, 10:30:34 PM
Posting your own sales in someone else's sales thread is off-topic (and thus not allowed). It's also extremely rude in my opinion.

I would agree if wakka were still here but since he has not been online for a while and isn't responding to messages it's better that someone steps up and offers services than leaving people unanswered

I agree with Mitchełł, as the fact that Wakka is not online or very active does not change the fact that you are posting your own sales in someone else's sales topic. Yes, I think this is rude too.

You're right in the sense that he is not online or responding to messages. However, I think people will find this out themselves too: if they still want to buy a specific game (or something), they can look for other sellers on this forum on their own.
183  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it illegal to purchase and use the Gift Cards, ie Starbucks, Steam? on: August 20, 2015, 10:27:01 PM
Usually nothing will happen to you. Usually the company just removes the balance or suspends the accounts / cards. If you knowingly bought a stolen or illegally obtained card and you knew it was then yes you could possibly be charged with some type of crime.

That is what I wanted to say: usually nothing will happen to you except the fact that your balance will be deducted: if you have paid money for these illegal gift cards, you will thus loose your money.

I don't think the police will show up for this: I can't imagine that huge parties such as Amazon do have the time to track / trace down users who used a illegal gift card: in the end, they might not even be aware of this: they might have though that they were going to buy a legal gift card.  However, I think exceptations apply for big scammers.  For the small ones, I think you will only risk that the company will remove the balance from your account. I think it is quite easy for those companies to do that, so try not to buy (and use) illegal gift cards..
184  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 20, 2015, 10:22:58 PM
*snip*
I do respect people with minimum wage jobs, especially in areas with social welfare programs, such as where I live....and that's because they get paid marginally higher than people that are on social welfare and sit at home collecting other people's taxes, while contributing nothing.  I do understand that there are some legitimate cases where people are down on their luck and end up in unfortunate situations, but it's also something that is very widely taken advantage of by others.

You guys should stop quoting all these messages at some point in order to keep it easy to read.

Minimum wages have advantages and disadvantages. Disadvantages in the sense that you interupt the free market. However, I think it has some advantages as people do get paid an acceptable wage for their work.


However, we've seen problems with increasing wages (which is the case when minimum wages are implemented). I'm not sure which particular country it was, but it was a country in which many clothes are made.

The current clothing industry pays these workers very little. What happend was that they collectively stopped working in order to increase their wages. They succeed; wages have increased. However, clothing companies thought these workers were too expensive now and these moved towards other countries. Result: many people unemployed and thereby many people who have to live from a wage that is even far less than they had in the first place.

185  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [S]STEAM GAMES(GTA V $43 Steam- $36.5 rockstar)- DOTA2-CSGO Items FOR BTC/WMZ on: August 14, 2015, 09:21:03 AM
What is your price for Crysis 3?
9.90$

This is not your topic, is it? (Are you another account of Wakka622 or iloveyu?) Otherwise, it is not really nice to hijack Wakka's topic (and offering the same service).

However, appearently Wakka622 do not offer this service anymore (neither does iloveyu) as they do not react anymore in this topic.

Key4Co.in is not wakka, I don't see it now but there was a post earlier by K4C stating that if wakka is still around shoot him a PM and he'd stop posting here. Until then K4C is simply helping out in this void left behind by wakka
@bitspill, exactly, thank you for posting Smiley
Sadly that post was deleted by a moderator, we really don't want to affect wakkas sales in a bad way(If he's still selling gamekeys).

Which post has sadly been deleted by a moderator? I still see that "9.90$" post if that is what you mean.
186  Economy / Services / Re: BITBINGO.IO - The Highest Fixed Rate Campaign, bi-weekly pay on: August 14, 2015, 09:19:39 AM
I saw an incoming transaction again in my wallet: https://blockchain.info/nl/tx/b88539ab2b7781979a850f84d559858f3015c458caaf1c7a2f3c4274b846d9fb

The payments of the last two months obviously have been made again. Thanks Carra23! For more info, see the Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mGlAi_up8kFsdjjsxHYI1Hb15QH8KwdpWMZ-gX5YvPs/edit?pli=1

Last two weeks, not months.  Smiley

Received my payment too.
Thank you

You're right, i'm sorry. I was quite in a rush writing that message, so I made a mistake. Indeed, I mean the last two weeks Wink.
187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC in your country on: August 13, 2015, 08:12:50 PM
few of the people use bitcoin in my country india.I don't know even one person who used Bitcoin in my Town.But i'm sure someday bitcoin will popular because the price so high.
if 10 % of india knows about btc , i think the price of btc can easily be 1000 dollars.it ll great for anyone using and owning it.
If 1% Indians knows about bitcoin then I sure its price going as rocket 10 percent is too much

If only 1% of the world owns Bitcoins, that would already be a nice step. Is there any data about this?

Remember that the coin and its technology is still very young: it will take some more years before the mainstream will join us. Now, only the early adopters own Bitcoins Wink.

I think from 1% to 2-3% might be a bigger step than going from 5% to 10% of the world population Wink
188  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [S]STEAM GAMES(GTA V $43 Steam- $36.5 rockstar)- DOTA2-CSGO Items FOR BTC/WMZ on: August 13, 2015, 08:09:31 PM
What is your price for Crysis 3?
9.90$

This is not your topic, is it? (Are you another account of Wakka622 or iloveyu?) Otherwise, it is not really nice to hijack Wakka's topic (and offering the same service).

However, appearently Wakka622 do not offer this service anymore (neither does iloveyu) as they do not react anymore in this topic.
189  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Internet Marketing on: August 13, 2015, 08:06:26 PM
i am starting marketing for my product . i want to know about internet marketing.is true internet marketing = making money How to succeed in internet marketing?

10 years agoo i would tell you that you need to made a great marketing campaign if you want success on your product, ATM i can say that the net is just like any other busnisses, if you have $ to promote your site then you will gain money, as simply as that, sad but true, or you can just have the best idea ever and have a great success and followers in a short period of time.

That is simply not true. Yes, you can spend a lot of $ to let someone optimize your website according to SEO principles (or you can spend many $ on Google Adwords), but you can also get yourself some SEO techniques (free) on the internet. Get to know the know-how about SEO optimalization, and it will not cost you a single dollar. It will cost you some time though, although that is the same for every website owner.

of you can do everything that is possible, i mean everything that is in your hands, but in the end if, there is some competition with another web that pay them, you will not appear as first option, so the more owners who pay them the less posibilities that you will have and there is lot of ppl who payd for it, thats why i sayd that maybe some time agoo it will work like you sayd, but not now, no more...

The webowners that pay for Google promotion > Adwords appear at places for Adwords, indeed, also on top of the search results. However, Google argues that it does not matter whether you pay or not; this does not influence your place in the search results.

(If you pay, you can get in the advertisement spaces. However, this does not influence how your website is rated by Google, according to Google)..
190  Economy / Services / Re: BITBINGO.IO - The Highest Fixed Rate Campaign, bi-weekly pay on: August 13, 2015, 08:02:56 PM
I saw an incoming transaction again in my wallet: https://blockchain.info/nl/tx/b88539ab2b7781979a850f84d559858f3015c458caaf1c7a2f3c4274b846d9fb

The payments of the last two weeks obviously have been made again. Thanks Carra23! For more info, see the Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mGlAi_up8kFsdjjsxHYI1Hb15QH8KwdpWMZ-gX5YvPs/edit?pli=1
191  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Internet Marketing on: August 12, 2015, 01:30:14 PM
i am starting marketing for my product . i want to know about internet marketing.is true internet marketing = making money How to succeed in internet marketing?

10 years agoo i would tell you that you need to made a great marketing campaign if you want success on your product, ATM i can say that the net is just like any other busnisses, if you have $ to promote your site then you will gain money, as simply as that, sad but true, or you can just have the best idea ever and have a great success and followers in a short period of time.

That is simply not true. Yes, you can spend a lot of $ to let someone optimize your website according to SEO principles (or you can spend many $ on Google Adwords), but you can also get yourself some SEO techniques (free) on the internet. Get to know the know-how about SEO optimalization, and it will not cost you a single dollar. It will cost you some time though, although that is the same for every website owner.
192  Local / Nederlands (Dutch) / Re: ING maakt Bitcoins kopen niet meer mogelijk on: August 11, 2015, 09:23:27 PM
Ik zie dit topic nu pas. Zelf heb ik ook ING, maar ik heb daar in het verleden nooit problemen mee gehad om Bitcoins te kopen. Ik moet wel bekennen dat het inmiddels alweer een tijd geleden is dat ik wat BTC heb bijgekocht.

Voor mining heb ik Genesis Mining, werkt uitstekend Smiley  Hier kan je mijn uitbetaling volgen.
Veder heb ik nog wel twee scrypt miners staan in de schuur, maar dat is echt voor de leuk.

Dat ziet er uit als een goedlopende business als je het mij vraagt Wink. Hoeveel BTC / $ heb je wel niet geïnvesteerd daarin?
193  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Internet Marketing on: August 11, 2015, 09:07:24 PM
It's time consuming but once it's all set up..there is not much work to do and you get the profit.


Know your competitors


I agree on that. I've spent many and many hours on creating a travelwebsite with 2 other persons. And I really mean maaaaaaany hours. (We created unique content - texts for all countries in the world for example). Although we should maintain this website more than we do, we still somehow do get some income through Adsense and affiliate networks (for selling a trip for example).   

Maybe I'm going to spent more time on this website when I've got more free time than I do now. Once you've got it all set up, by maintaining your website for a few hours per week you can expect a pretty nice income if you've got a decent amount of traffic to your website.
194  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [S]STEAM GAMES(GTA V $43 Steam- $36.5 rockstar)- DOTA2-CSGO Items FOR BTC/WMZ on: August 11, 2015, 09:04:48 PM
Hey wakka,

still selling?
What price for Fallout4?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/377160/

I've not had a answer to my question on 27-07, so I think these deals do not apply anymore unfortunately.
How much for GTA V.. oh, just.. is this shop still online?

I think you can better send both iloveyu and wakkaa622 PM about this (as iloveyu was a newer account of Wakka). However, I see that Wakka622 has been online recently too.

I'm also wondering whether these deals still apply. I hope so, I still have to buy GTA V on Steam. I guess I will do this in a couple of weeks.
195  Local / Nederlands (Dutch) / Re: Bitcoin... op weg naar 1000 USD :) on: August 11, 2015, 09:02:55 PM
Ik heb me nog nooit verdiept in dergelijke bots. Ook ik ben bang voor "ongelukjes". Wanneer ik zelf trade, check ik al altijd minimaal 3x of ik daadwerkelijk de gewenste aantallen invul etcetera.. Ik geef zo iets niet graag uit handen.
196  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Indian Air Force humiliates the RAF on: August 10, 2015, 09:56:13 PM
No surprise here. Britain has been cutting the defense budget for many decades, to the point that its armed forces are barely capable of conducting warfare operations. It was not a Typhoon FGR4 vs SU-30MKI Flanker fight. By any measure, the Typhoon is a much better aircraft when compared to the Sukhoi MKI Flanker.

Do you know about these stupid 'super' carriers? They're basically giant aircraft carriers that we're likely never going to use in actual combat unless we somehow manage to piss off the Chinese and the Russians. I really think part of the reason the UK army is so shit right now is because they're spending stupid amounts of money on these projects in order to 'create' jobs to make the economic numbers look good. So instead of actually training skillful soldiers and pilots and getting up to date equipment that will actually be used they're pissing away taxpayer money on these giant projects that make no fucking tactical, strategic or economic sense.

Gotta love the neo-keynesian bullshit these guys pull.
Why would they need skilled soldiers if they are dealing with immigrants, sucking their social benefits. They are losing the war without a single shot being fired.

I think that's the same for much more countries. Defense budgets have been decreased over the years. I think only untill 1 or 2 years ago, countries began to see that the world is not as peaceful as they thought it is or was. Or was it was earlier. Although I don't like to say it, I think in the current world we need to increase these budgets again. Unfortunately.

197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 10, 2015, 09:49:46 PM
I'm not really into gambling myself, although I'd like to place some bets on who's going to mine a particular next block (you can find these party's on this forum). However, I don't think it can really wreck your life IF you do not gamble with money you can't afford to loose. As soon as you start gambling with that money - and you loose the game - you're in problems, in a kind of negative feedback loop I guess: then, you want to continue gambling to cover the amount of money you have lost already, and this process goes on and on.. Go look for help when you're in this process.
198  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Internet Marketing on: August 10, 2015, 09:42:42 PM
you can use SEO for internet marketing. I think that's one of the best methods. Just regularly setting the SEO, it could work great. You can find a lot information on internet.

Why do you think SEO is one of the best marketing options?

I think most of the traffic for websites, comes out of Google.     

Making use of SEO in a good way, will make your website more easy to find on Google; you'll get a better (> higher) position in the search lists. Even small changes with regard to SEO can make a huge different. Don't underestimate the amount of people using search engines to find specific websites.

If you're not into SEO yourself, you can pay companies to do this for you. However, be sure you find a company with real (positive) experience with regard to succesfull SEO changes. Such people can screw up your website if they want to.. And it might cost a lot of money too.
199  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 10, 2015, 09:38:53 PM
There are many ways to save money. For example  : investing gold or bitcoin as long as they have quite high value.
If you rich enough, you can save your money by investing through property because their value never down instead they keep increasing every year

Yup agreed politelly Cheesy
iam planning to invest my money on real estate as we know that their value never down instead they keep increasing  from to time
all we have to do just lookin a best and strategiest property or real estate


I'm not sure whether investing in real estate is really that profitable these days. It depends where you exactly invest in (and how).

Currently, I think we're in a kind of "bubble" with regard to the Dutch house markets. Prices of houses in popular cities such as Amsterdam rise a lot. And besides that, houses get sold over there for MORE THAN the price the owners of these houses ask for it, which increases the prices even more.  I think soon or later an end will come to such bubbles, as it is very hard for people to pay that amount of money for these houses (it is not as easy to get a mortage over here as it was before).
200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people still play dice? on: August 07, 2015, 01:39:30 PM
*snip*
yep, I think dice is a little foolish.

It think Dice games are so attractive because they are so easy to use. That "foolish" character determines a lot of the success of these games. Image a really hard to understand Dice game. Not many people will make use of it..

I think the same applies for fruitslots machines at a casino. They are also quite easy, although some machines are harder to understand (with extra games, with a lot of buttons etc). In the end, just hit the bottle or pull that handle and the machine does the rest.

For example poker games are harder to understand, and people who don't have knowledge and/or experience about poker are not likely to start a poker game (and pay some money for it). These people do with Dice games.
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