WOW! Good catch. The chicanery and outright fraud that is going on with all of this just never ceases to amaze. I am sure a good quantity of those new XPY are currently doing the Scam Shuffle, bouncing back and forth between addresses with amounts being siphoned off and sent to exchanges, because , you know, the Blockchain can't be traced.

Since Josh & Co read this forum religiously, I think they would likely fight back and bash through any Sell wall put in place to cap the price. A little more paranoia in their minds with the suggestion that this might be done can't be a bad thing though.

One thing along these lines that could be done relatively cheap would be to just maintain a massive sell wall to prevent re-pumps after dumps. Right now it is a breeze to spend a couple BTC to regain the lost price after sucking up a massive amount of Buy Bids with a huge dump. And then the brainwashed believers follow the pie-eyed piper back up to the new "price" with new Buy Bids. Over and over. I keep thinking that they have to figure it out and/or run out of Buy money at some point, but that has not happened yet.

These last believers are a special kind of stupid with some unusually deep pockets. They are absolutely convinced they can prop this coin up. They simply can not accept the fact that Josh & Co are the ones dumping, and that the whole game is centered around them putting up Buy Bids to dump into. I watched earlier today as XPY sank to ~.001850 and figured it was going to make the big slide, and a small ~2,000 XPY pump and these fools followed up into the ~.0020 range with massive bids that just got mercilessly snapped up. XPY currently holding below 50 centavos. Time for the Paycoin Spaceship unveiling and pump, Homero!



P.s: That effing imbecile Hellsgremlin needs to be reading about how "legal" Ponzi fraud is. I was looking over his supposed "payback to make everyone whole", and of course it is nothing of the sort. It looks like  he paid the most vocally pissed off people the 75% promised return if they "lost", not a full payback. Then you look at the "winners" and it looks like most or all of those were shill accounts of his. So, he kept ALL of the BTC/XPY from those that did not complain, and then gave himself the payouts. Total and absolute slimy lying piece of shit scamming fraudulent Ponzi scumbag is Hellsgremlin.

A Scam based on a Scam? And the Secondary Scammer is blatantly shilling his own Scam and isn't even clever enough to hide this fact?

The best you can do is use the current rate of payout. Ancient history does not matter, but current luck, or lack thereof, is the only thing you can use. You are quite free to not look at current rates when choosing what pool to use, by all means, please go right ahead and use the one that is currently paying the least, be it due to luck or skimming or whatever.

P.S: In the future I will try not to share what works for me based on direct experience, I can see how well that works here when you have people trying to promote their own pools attacking you. I can however assure anyone who actually cares about getting the maximum return from their miners that my rates of payout using exactly the method described in that post are well above any of the pools I have personally tried on their own. Have a nice day, and by all means, Kano, continue attacking Nicehash in an effort to drive miners to your pool, that is pure class, bro!

Speaking of Market Cap, it has been bandied about for some time that there must have been some BTC given to CoinMarketCap.com by Homero to have them include all of the premine (supposedly locked in Prime Controllers) in the Market Cap. Everywhere one looks at this scam operation you find fraud.

P.S: Thanks alani. About the GIF: I have been trying out Camtasia. You can do some really slick stuff with that. Screen captures, including audio are a snap to do. I wish I had found this back when the Paycoin Tinychats were going on to record those. One thing that I find lacking though is that you can not export as GIF, I had to save as MP4 and then convert to GIF on a website. Anyone interested in Camtasia can find the download on MajorGeeks. Here is the exact page with the Camtasia download.

Yes, it is @ .0019 right now. With BTC down to 246, that officially makes Paycoin sub 50 cents.

LOL. I think we should all get .1BTC per error spotted. This reminds me of the Meganet front page with "Secure infromation is power" right in the middle.  

Homero seems to attract followers with literary skills the same as his. I did not even notice this yesterday:



I will accept .1 BTC for proofreading your logo and finding your spelling mistake, dumbass.  

Ha! Neat keepsake of the shitshow, but the quality of that coin is about on par with the actual Paycoin's. I am a long time numismatist and I must say that the die flaws, poor strike, apparent alignment problem evident in the rim, etc, etc. make me shudder. In all honesty the lack of definition in the details and such make it look like a foil wrapped chocolate coin you would get at a Carnival. Have you tried to peel the wrapper off?  

P.S: If the foil wrapper comes off, I would advise against eating the "chocolate", it is most likely poop.  


It looks like Zero2Cash learned much from his mentor and hero, Homero.

Also: In relation to your question yesterday: "Been" would be the proper word in question instead of "be", which you correctly surmised. Your English is better than many native English speakers.

For comparison, here is what an actual real finely struck Silver Coin looks like:

Last Friday I received 40 more of these (2 full tubes) that I bought with Bitcoin from Veldtgold (Formerly Agora- same company, new name). I bought right at the lowest Silver price about a week ago, with BTC still at ~$275, and paid .0064 BTC per coin. Today the price is around .0075 (BTC down-Silver up), so I am glad I emptied my wallet at the right time.

Kano: The question posed by another member that I replied to was not asking about why pools have a certain rate of return compared to the predicted payout at a certain difficulty. He was asking what the best price point to rent his miners at here was and I told him, and those numbers are accurate. You said they were rubbish, and they are not. The best way to utilize Nicehash is to set your miner's password right at what the average payout of your failover pool is. As an example, Slush. Slush paid out 85% of the predicted yield last month.  You have gone on at length trying to explain why this is so (luck) , and that is simply not relevant. The fact is that miners on Slush were paid 85% of the predicted payout, therefore, if you want to maximize profits the best strategy for using Nicehash to do so is to set the price cutoff at the expected payout of your failover pool. That way , when bids that will pay higher than your failover pool are available you will get paid higher than you otherwise would. By the way, I actually understand the math behind calculating luck just fine, so your lengthy dissertation on this topic which was irrelevant to the question posed was wasted on me.

Badbitcoin with the fucking devil as his symbol is another example of people choosing online names that precisely fit their actual intentions and personae. When someone chooses a persona that is openly evil they are telling you flat out what they are like.



And I am supposed to trust you? WTF? It is just absurd.

Zero2Cash does:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/34843/anyone-want-to-sell-me-some-xpy-at-cryptsy-like-2000-002/2

Too late to get sold some XPY below market value from "someones" free supply asshole. Market is @ .0020 now. Maybe you should change your request to .0015??

A post taken from Homeros "Can Bitcoin's reputation be saved" thread. What makes me especially pissed is that the main problem with Bitcoin's reputation is asshole scammers like Homero Josh Garza. What a fucking CHUMP. THis post from that thread is so delusional and anti-logic it is hard to define all the levels it is wrong on:



"Duh... Would you trust a news site that prints bad things about it's advertisers?.. duhhh" Answer: More than I would trust one that prints only good things about it's advertisers ya fucking dunce. And then the fucking idiot goes on about what a great idea it would be to outsmart them and buy up all their ad space. WTF? And all of this after the leaked Emails in which Homero openly negotiated paying for good press and/or negation of bad press about his fucking scam. The whole thing just makes me sick to my stomach.

This part of Homeros bullshit is hilarious:


Mixing coins eh? Ya don't say... You mean like the hundreds of thousands you currently have being bot exchanged between XPY addresses over and over and then many thousands are siphoned off after you think the trail leading straight back to you is muddied enough are sent to exchanges all day every day? You mean mixing coins like THAT, ya lying Scamdog asshole?

What the fuck ever, Kano. My numbers are in fact correct when calculating what you will actually get paid when you compare that to the predicted payout. That is precisely what the poster was asking when I answered his question. Why you get paid a certain amount on different pools was not being discussed and you are just trying to obfuscate things by introducing strawman arguments.

 You should have just told me that you were running a pool and you were here to try to drive people away from here to your pool, it would have saved a lot of keystrokes.

Here's a little blast from the past with a few true beliebers back in the day.



My apologies Redacted, I know you have come to grips with being taken for a ride in Josh's Scam Limo, but back in the day.....

And did Joshy take this advice about getting things done from back in the Paycoin Tiny Chat sessions?


Now he has a Blue Crystal Avatar?

Here are a couple from myself to add to the collection here. I will start with a few older ones:



Anyone remember those Paycoin Tinychat sessions?


It's a Paycoin Paaartay! Woo hoo! It turns out these "investors" really were on dope.


Problems with Paybase were pinpointed early on in the scam:


But that did not stop the wise investors at HashTalkers:


They just couldn't see the writing on the wall I guess. It was so hard to see, right?


A remake of the classic Railroad Fraud story "The way we live now" updated to be centered around the new boom fraud market in crypto:



And of course one of the more famous ones I made:

I guess Aaron has ears and heard that Homero was slingin plenty of cash around to create positive Paycoin news and quash negative articles and tried to cash in. Assuming, of course, that is a genuine email.