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2001  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 26, 2021, 06:14:19 PM
Slow upwards grind now until the end of summer & then moon? We can hope hey but oh my, those couple of weeks were horrible. I have to admit I was petrified haha, sold nothing though.

So?  ATH wen?

You talking August or maybe September before we get to another ATH.. or maybe the end of July?

I understand it is not fair for me to try to pin point you, but you are being vague.. probably on purpose....

How is blindmayor, by the way?  Weren't you both in and about the same location - eating chocolates from under the cupboard for the past several days?  

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I know Raoul Pal isn't always the most liked around here but he is spot on here. Open the link for all of his comments.

https://twitter.com/RaoulGMI/status/1397172575810228225



How could he be "spot on" when he is muddying his thinkenings with shitcoins?

I will grant that he said a lot of things that are reasonable or fair assessments in a muddied kind of way, but we give way too much credit to anyone who is muddying their thoughts.. and cannot even figure out a way to use the word bitcoin... and so thereby contributes to others muddying their thoughts on the topic as well.

Well whether we like altcoins or not, they do inherit parts of bitcoin's robust nature, and in this case I think they do.  They trade perpetually, are not deeply regulated, etc...

So I think the implication is he is "spot on" in the general sense.  I would agree.  Though I do think his shitcoin romance will end badly for many people following him, though it might buy him more kinds of exotic rums for his dark wood pool/bar area since he gets to front-run his sheeps.
2002  Economy / Speculation / Re: btc price seeking levels on: May 26, 2021, 06:03:03 PM



Interesting chart.  The bit missing is the price seeking level related to the NEXT halving.
quadratic regression on the logarithmic scale indicates $76k
There's an app a chart for that ha ha

Better than my guess for the contest:

69,820  MishaMuc
70,000  philipma1957
70,500  Slot Kid
71,500  fillippone
72,239  cAPSLOCK*
72,400  Phil_S
72,555  OutOfMemory
2003  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: A member LIST .. What do we speculate the price will be this summer JOIN IN on: May 26, 2021, 06:01:22 PM
a miserable BSV shill can pick something like, say, 33,333,

YOU RANG?

Talk about the odds... you are the lucky one for today!!!



Gosh.  I wonder what the chances of that are... if only I can get so lucky in the contest!
2004  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 26, 2021, 03:47:35 PM
I know Raoul Pal isn't always the most liked around here but he is spot on here. Open the link for all of his comments.

https://twitter.com/RaoulGMI/status/1397172575810228225



He is a very smart dude with lots of insight.  It's just his "big bad maxi" narrative that is annoying.  He may not realize that the whole "Ethereum is actually more amazing than Bitcoin" argument is fairly worn out for people who have been paying ACTIVE attention for longer than him.  He actually goes WAY back in having interest in "crypto" but only came out guns blazing this halving epoch.

But he is spot on here, and the contrast he is pointing out is still not really being heard over the ROAR of "ZOMG BITCOIN VOLITILE CANNOT BE SOV" screaming noise.

But we are getting closer.
2005  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 26, 2021, 03:38:37 PM
Slow upwards grind now until the end of summer & then moon? We can hope hey but oh my, those couple of weeks were horrible. I have to admit I was petrified haha, sold nothing though.

Same, I did buy a little though.  First time in over a year I bought that much too...  So I am kind of still nervous.
2006  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 26, 2021, 03:28:58 PM
Prediction:

New ATH by mid June.

Quote it for posterity gentlemen.

Oh?

So we are skipping an ATH for May?

I was told a new ATH for every month in 2021.

So bitcoin changed its mind about May?

That sucks.
2007  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 26, 2021, 03:06:12 PM
We should change the 100k party to 50k party so we have some partying to do while we wait for the price to rise Smiley

I've run out of reasons to drink Cheesy

Just take a shot every time Chart Buddy posts a 40k crossing in either direction.  I suggest buying a liter of whatever you like because it might go fast.
2008  Economy / Speculation / Re: btc price seeking levels on: May 26, 2021, 03:04:43 PM



Interesting chart.  The bit missing is the price seeking level related to the NEXT halving.
2009  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 25, 2021, 05:43:41 PM
I want to register my mild shock at the events of the last couple days.

I am surprised and not surprised at the reactions to the whole Saylor/Musk council thing.

Not shocked because I know there are a lot of idealist bitcoinners that reject the whole thing based on the "green" angle alone.  That submitting to that is losing, and the powers that be are trying to get a wedge in as an attack on the system.  I get this, sort of.  I think the whole "green" thing is EXTREMELY misdirected and nothing more than slight of hand.  The lithium mines all the green people are digging now are terrible.  And the whole attachment of value to specific energy use is pretty nasty.  No one complaining about the amount of energy being used on cell phone gaming, or porn, or whatever.  And I am glad they aren't!  In some ways the control freaks getting their foot into ANY door that is able to mark some energy use as bad and some as righteous is evil as hell.

But on the other hand what I see MS doing (again) is playing along with the powers that be to get us past the critics. And frankly I see nothing wrong with a set of "environmentally sensitive" bitcoin miners existing.  The industry self regulating is EXTREMELY positive and at least will DELAY draconian laws, if not prevent them entirely.  I might be giving Saylor too much credit but I think he is pretty good at negotiating with the enemy so to speak.  He realizes you have to play along somewhat and they if you just walk around with your middle fingers up all the time (like some maxis for sure) then you are going to make enemies you may not want to have.

And speaking of enemies, I believe bitcoin is FOR enemies.  And it is a lot of the purity test type bullshit I see in cancel culture happening here where we cannot allow the wrong kinds of bitcoinners to exist.  You want to own a darknet market?  FINE!  Want to be a sex worker?  FINE! You are an environmentalist statist? Eff you! We need to stop you from using bitcoin.

That sort of position is actually ANTI Bitcoin.  Bitcoin is for enemies.  It is for Wikileaks and for governments.  It is for people on the left AND right.  It is for evangelical environmentalists as well as atheist anarchists.

And it is for people like Michael Saylor who actually are versed in the dying art of walking the middle path instead of waving his middle fingers all around.

I hope I am not wrong about him.  Many folks are saying he is part of some coup. Lol.  And has put 2.5 billion dollars on the line just to play the part well?

Bullshit.  A lot of the people accusing him of not being pure enough don't have a 10,000th of the skin in the game he does.

It's like those weekend poker players criticizing a pro of some "bad play" when they never see a pot with more than $40 in it at once.  Musk went berserk and actually started doing damage to bitcoin.  Musk actually took some low blows at Michael Saylor as well.  What did Saylor do?  This? 



No.  he tried to diffuse the situation like a professional business man would.  So far I say more power to him.  I am now becoming officially disturbed that I have put him on a pedestal.
2010  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 25, 2021, 02:27:06 PM
Right now everything in bitcoin is friction.  The base layer is high friction because of fees.  Lightning is high friction because it's still beta, and the front ends are not great.  Liquid has friction because it is not used much yet.  Bisq is a great idea, but high friction.  just about NONE of this stuff is ready for prime time.


Thats an interesting observation. Why didnt crypto quite complete into something easy.

Even bitcoin still a mystery to most.



I see this as an analog to the early days of MP3 music.  There was this new cool way to handle music, but people could only play them on a computer, and they were not yet portable.  Then the first MP3 players started showing up.  I still have a "Diamond Rio" here somewhere, lol. 

Those things were a nightmare.  The UI was difficult, and the whole process required a lot of computer skill to get from "I have a CD" to "I have an MP3 player with my favorite songs on it".

Then Apple came in with the iPhones and iPods and defined the industry.  Now grandmas could listen to music on their phones or easy to use devices.

Bitcoin is currently in the Diamond Rio phase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_PMP300
2011  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 25, 2021, 02:19:57 PM
Shit cAPS  I was going to give a nice long reply (I don't put the effort in much anymore) and then the oven went off and the washing machine popped and I have to get stuff done in the yard before dark)!
Lol timing!

I'll get back to this later.

TLDW (too long didn't write)

Bisq going to liquid and any liquid involvement in AS is a bad thing.

Also when AS goes live we can bet all those blackilisted coins are going to get dumped on Monero holders.

Some thoughts here...

Personally I do not see Liquid as the terrible monster that some others do.  I have been almost rebooted because of the Samourai developer going off on that issue and supporting Haveno etc.  The whole thing is like a divide by zero error in my brain.  And to be honest, I do not understand why the privacy purists don't just finally come over to the dark side of Monero.

As to blacklisted coins being dumped on Monero holders?  Only the holder who decide not to hold anymore... Chances are decent they will not be dumping on me.  But also I have thought about playing with the functionality and I realized any BTC I bought that way would need to live in some sequestered wallet somewhere, and most likely be used to go back to Monero.  Because like you I believe we will see "tainted" bitcoin quite a bit.

In some ways Liquid being involved would be interesting as well since that puts the tainted BTC into another layer... quite interesting really... I need to work through how liquid smart contracts for peg ins work.  Because that could determine where the original BTC ends up going.

This is VERY interesting stuff IMHO.
2012  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 25, 2021, 12:40:05 PM
@Arrie:

About 3D printers, you've already got some good info from fellow WOers. If possible, get a printer with two Z-axis lead screws, not with only one screw that's positioned on the side of the bed. Also, if possible, get one with automatic bed levelling. This will get your printer as close as possible to a plug-and-play device.

I read you're the kind of person that doesn't want to DIY stuff. In that case, I fully recommend the Original Prusa i3 MK3S+ (pre-built). You can't go wrong with a Prusa at an affordable price point.

If you want to use more exotic materials, dimensional accuracy, end-use parts, engineering work, go for an Ultimaker (the dual extruder models like the S3 or the S5 for larger build volume). Expensive, but well worth it. A workhorse that will give you consistent results for years, whereas the cheaper ones will noticeably degrade over time.

I've been using 3D printers at work and personally since 2019. Now, I simply cannot survive without a 3D printer. I feel almost like a small god that can create anything at will. I rarely, if ever, print ready-made objects. I design everything myself using Autodesk Inventor (this s/w is even more amazing than any 3D printer can ever be). This is when a 3D printer truly shines. If you just download and print, it will get boring pretty quickly, and you will soon abandon the sport.

My 2 sats.

Thanks for your input, If I want to level up in the future I'll look into the ultimaker.

So much truth from Alcohodl.

I bought my first printer for my daughters.  They almost never used it.  I used it constantly, lol.  And then I started making things to fix stuff around the house.  To solve a particular problem.  I have used several 3D modeling programs, but have settled on two that I use most just because of speed and ease.  The afore mentioned Tinkercad, and I alsi use OpenSCAD.  You may or may not enjoy using it.  It is a text based 3d modelling software.  Open source and very basic, yet capable.  There are all the high end 3d modelling platforms like Blender as well which can be used.  But I have been able to make so many designs in TinkerCAD without paying for it and super quickly.  If you give it a shot make sure to do the tutorial.. that will help a lot.

OpenSCad is not GUI driven.  More of an old school "programmers" type of approach.  You build objects out of primitives and do all kinds of things to join them together etc:

https://openscad.org/

Some of my Tinkercad designs for various "fixes":

The red one on the second row is an example of the type of kooky thing I just make up... It is a "Toothbrush stand".  It goes in my medicine cabinet and has space for another toothbrush or toothpaste under it.  Just a little way to make more room in my cabinet.

2013  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 25, 2021, 01:56:28 AM
On printers.
My brother will be using them as well and he is deep down the bonsai rabbit hole, he wants to print bonsai pots for his little trees and he is worried that the print size is too small.

Any tips?

What size does he envision?  I would think I could make a fairly humongous pot for a bonsai with my average sized Prusa.  I do not know much about bonsais but the ones I have seen would fit in pots that fit the "25 x 21 x 21 cm" print area.

I must be doing the math wrong, but a round pot that was 20cm tall and 20cm across would easily hold ~ 5 liters of dirt with room to spare?

(3.14x10^2)x20 = 6280ml

Maybe I am off... but no matter it would be a average size flower pot in my opinion.

Pretty much what I said too, didn't do the math though.
But apparently he wants bigger pots, we'll see. I have just bought this.

https://www.elegoo.com/products/elegoo-mars-pro-lcd-3d-printer

https://www.elegoo.com/products/elegoo-mercury-plus-washing-and-curing-machine

https://www.elegoo.com/products/elegoo-5pcs-fep-release-film

https://www.amazon.se/gp/product/B00FRGBEGG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.se/sm%C3%A4llmatta-%C3%B6verf%C3%B6ring-ANYCUBIC-3D-skrivartillbeh%C3%B6r-Eewolf/dp/B08HCZWYLC/ref=sr_1_26?crid=2AZ2X6OYFO76K&dchild=1&keywords=silikonmatta&qid=1621823281&sprefix=silikon%2Caps%2C232&sr=8-26

https://www.amazon.se/ELEGOO-3D-skrivare-Fotoolymer-LCD-3D-tryck-Keramikgr%C3%A5/dp/B07X28J75Q/ref=pd_sbs_3/258-9099973-6756132?pd_rd_w=iTHJw&pf_rd_p=b15ec3b6-41da-4147-8ab8-f7f9d3ef7406&pf_rd_r=BP6H273B793Y184XNMKC&pd_rd_r=088fe201-1414-45b0-ac1c-c472dea84437&pd_rd_wg=gsFH2&pd_rd_i=B07X28J75Q&psc=1

https://www.amazon.se/dp/B07FF5VQ8R/ref=twister_B08DK2PG4Y?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.computersalg.se/i/6739009/mr-proper-professional-sanitary-5l?utm_source=PriceRunnerSe&utm_medium=PriceRunnerSeLINK&utm_campaign=PriceRunnerSe

All I need now is Nitril gloves.

And of course learn how to work the darn thing, is there like a photoshop for stl files or something?

Ah! That's some of the funnest part.  So there are many editors and everyone probably has a favorite, but I really just like tinkercad.com . It has one of the friendliest learning curve (they are all a little steep in my opinion...) And you can do done really neat stuff with it quickly and easily.
2014  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 24, 2021, 10:44:12 PM
I definitely agree it will in time have an effect on the precious metals market..

I have never seen a gold coin in person, thinking of maybe getting one gold maple leaf (canadian), but the premium is crazy (like 8% with shipping).
Is it heavy and shiny, lol? If I get one, it would be just for the sake of curiosity.

There is something magical about them.  Might be programmed into us somehow... they are beautiful and feel good in the hand.
2015  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 24, 2021, 10:40:29 PM
Another leg down is setting up right now. The bitcoin price won't be able to sustain itself above $35k for 10 consecutive days.

Every damn time, best reverse indicator ever. You should charge for this shit, bruh.

Observing $39,556.




Let this man dissapear they don’t give this man a chance to speak about bitcoin
He ruines all

Actually he may simply be looking to sell his battery wall with a few panels to run your mining gear cleanly.

He may have scared away the morons and soft hands.  Lets see if he offers a 'clean' power pack for a home miner.

Or fuck em as honey badger does not care.

You know...

That is something.  What if Elon decided to commoditize the Bitcoin Miner.  Make a miner rig that was entirely solar powered.

Or somehow integrated mining into his house systems... i do not even know if this makes sense.  But instead of selling excess energy back to the grid just use it to mine Bitcoin?  Or something... hmm.  I wonder if he has gotten to this train of thought yet.
2016  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 24, 2021, 10:31:55 PM
On printers.
My brother will be using them as well and he is deep down the bonsai rabbit hole, he wants to print bonsai pots for his little trees and he is worried that the print size is too small.

Any tips?

What size does he envision?  I would think I could make a fairly humongous pot for a bonsai with my average sized Prusa.  I do not know much about bonsais but the ones I have seen would fit in pots that fit the "25 x 21 x 21 cm" print area.

I must be doing the math wrong, but a round pot that was 20cm tall and 20cm across would easily hold ~ 5 liters of dirt with room to spare?

(3.14x10^2)x20 = 6280ml

Maybe I am off... but no matter it would be a average size flower pot in my opinion.
2017  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 24, 2021, 09:48:08 PM

Thank you sir.  I added some little pictures to give it some flair. Ha.

The idea for this tome-let was prompted by the Elon tweet about "bigger faster, cheaper".  Whatever he said...

It hit me that not only am I learning deeper nuance of why this thing is important, and why there are aspects of it that we CANNOT sacrifice to things like "faster, cheaper, bigger", but there are currently, and always will be people who do not understand why the ingredients required to keep Bitcoin decentralized will ALWAYS be under attack.  Both because it's almost always the first thought for optimization when you do NOT understand how it works, as well as it's also the most powerful way to subvert the system once you DO.

So, we have to keep singing this song 'till the whole world knows it.
2018  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 24, 2021, 05:02:35 PM
Here comes a cAPSLOCK Saturday LONG POST.  Maybe too long?  So long it took 2 extra days and 3 extra pots of coffee:



A Tale of Two Networks

Our generation has the unique honor to be alive to witness the formation of an important new global network.  Counter-intuitively this network may be more important than some of the world changing technologies that are required for it to exist.  The Bitcoin network can be considered a child of the Internet, and even though the Internet is the primary domain of the Bitcoin network, I believe the latter may have a significantly deeper impact on the direction of humanity. This is because money is such a fundamental and important idea. And sound, fair money is not something the world has really seen for most of our lifetimes.  I would propose the last discovery that humankind has made with this level of impact might have been the electric power grid which brought us, light, warmth, and the energy to do countless things that were either impossible or difficult before.

Power to the People

Yep... I called the worldwide electric power grid a “discovery”.  The reason I say we discovered this is because all the constituent parts used to become this network existed before we built it.  Electrons, copper wire, transformers, alternating current are all prior discoveries that we combined into a novel whole we could benefit from.  We take it from granted now.  But the choices and tradeoffs made as it was established and evolved are necessary for it to operate as it does today.

The relationship between Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison around the dawn of the 20th century is well known.  The two brilliant men fought “The War of Currents” in which each argued a different fundamental choice for the way electricity would be transmitted.  This topic is a wonderful story all it’s own, but the bottom line is Tesla's more complex, but efficient system ended up winning against Edison's simpler, but less feasible system.  And nearly the entire world now works the way Nikola Tesla envisioned.  We take it for granted now, but this decision for the world’s power grids to be built using an AC system took several years and was hard fought in the public arena.  The tradeoffs in Tesla's vision were superior to those in Edison’s.

Similarly, we are living through the time in which the world’s monetary transmission system is being built.  And the fog is only beginning to clear in the arena of ideas.  But IMPORTANT choices for certain tradeoffs have been made without which we would not have the properties we need to build something that will someday be as large and influential on the prosperity of the world as the power grid has been. 

A Square Deal


I still hold a peculiar delight around an idea I learned as a child.  In elementary geometry I learned what a rectangle is.  It is an object with four straight sides and four 90° angles.  A square is a special kind of rectangle with all 4 sides being equal lengths.  We can consider a square to be a specific sort of rectangle.  There is a hierarchy of ideas. The phrase that stuck with me is:

A square is always a rectangle, but a rectangle is not necessarily a square.   

In the realm of ideas, we have learned to classify things, and there is an order in which it works.  This is because there is an order in which the universe works.  We do not create the order, but discover it.

All of this is sort of arbitrary in that we are talking about abstractions describing the nature of the universe.  And the grand archetype of the square, and it’s ancestor, the rectangle existed before mankind.  And our descriptions and names for the ideas do not change them at all but allow us to understand them.  Is Pluto a planet, or not?  I would submit Pluto does not give a shit.

Which Way, Young Bitcoin?

Satoshi did not invent any of the constituent parts of the Bitcoin network except possibly blockchain, and even that was posited earlier by David Chaum.  Cryptographic primitives,  proof of work, and networking were all parts he combined to make Bitcoin.  The COMBINATION is novel, not the parts.  Even the concept of blockchain is just a combination of ideas that previously existed. Databases, time stamping, and cryptographic functions.

Bitcoin contains two great novel discoveries in the arrangement of its preexisting pieces and parts:  A way to implement digital scarcity, and a way to agree on a record without a central authority.

Number nine? Number nine?

The first part is groundbreaking all on it’s own.  An interesting issue with the digital space bounded by computers is the fact that any data can be effortlessly copied.  This has been a nightmare for the music industry.  How can you restrict people from copying an idea that is owned by someone else when that idea can be represented by just a long number? As much as I am tempted to go on a sidetrack on the idea of “intellectual property”, I will not... too much!

Bitcoin is the first digital good that cannot be copied.  Here is a very basic description of the way this works.  We pick a secret number from a set of numbers. Addresses are derived from that secret number.  Importantly, no one can use those addresses to reverse engineer our secret number. Bitcoin can be moved around between the public addresses by signing transactions with the secret number.

The reason you cannot copy a bitcoin is the same reason you cannot copy the number NINE.  There is only one number 9.  Satoshi used existing cryptography for us to move value around between public addresses that are controlled by a single individual number.  That is how it works.  It works on the universal principle that there is only one of each number. 

Once you get your head around this, the first question that comes to mind is: Well, would it not then be possible for two people to pick the same secret number?  And the answer is YES it is 100% possible.  But it is also practically impossible. The reason for this is we are working with a set of numbers SO LARGE that the chances of two people picking the same number are too small to be practically possible in our lifetimes, even using computers. See http://keys.lol for a delightful demonstration of this principle. 

So, Satoshi figured out a way to use existing cryptography to create digital ownership of certain numbers.  BOOM!  Digital scarcity.

The Mexican Standoff

The second discovery was a way to arrange technology to allow for multiple individuals, even possibly adversarial parties to agree on a shared ledger. For this to be achieved the ledger had to be distributed. If this database was controlled by a single party, or even a small number of parties then the system would not work any differently than what we use today when it comes to money. We would need a single bank, or a federation of banks and would have to trust those parties to always give us the correct data, and never change it.

This is where the design of bitcoin reminds me of “The war of the currents”, and my special rectangle, the square.

This time the argument has been how to use bitcoin’s database the blockchain. The choice the users of Bitcoin have made is to use the blockchain as sparingly as possible so that as many people as possible will continue to run a full node, thereby safeguarding the trust minimization and decentralization needed for Satoshi’s invention to work. Other projects, notably Ethereum as well as certain Bitcoin forks, have made a different trade off, and chosen to use the blockchain to store as much data as the network wants to throw at it.

This is a One Way Street

Many pieces have been written about why a small blockchain is central to the vision of bitcoin surviving. And it is not my purpose here to rehash (haha) that argument.  And many of the ideas presented by large block projects are interesting, and even worth implementation. But because of trust, a monetary BASE layer is not one of them.  I want to point something out that proves the small block and decentralized tradeoff is worth the trouble.

In a way reminiscent of my geometry lesson certain things can only work in one direction.  You CAN build centralized layers of blockchain on top of a decentralized base.  But you CANNOT build a decentralized layer on top of a trusted base.  At least not effectively. Because you will always have trust at the base layer.

A system like Ethereum can be built on a layer atop of Bitcoin, and that database can be anchored cryptographically to the Bitcoin base layer.  Then we get the benefits of the centralizing tradeoffs but still retain the benefits of the trust minimized base!  All the big blocker’s arguments vanish in a puff of universal logic once you realize we can build exactly what they want on top of a sufficiently decentralized base layer.

The Microsoft Digital ID project is a perfect example.  If I understand it correctly it will use a centralized or possibly centralizing database anchored to Bitcoin (although it is built agnostic as to which blockchain and could use Ethereum for example). So not everyone has to keep a full copy of its database, but the project can still inherit the trust minimized advantages of the chain on which it is based.

The liquid network is another great example.  It uses a federated model of block verifiers to gain several advantages such as lower fees and privacy but is again rooted in the DECENTRALIZED base layer of Bitcoin.

And even decentralized layers can be added such as the Lightning network which use a vastly different model for transactions which provides several advantages, but the reason it is decentralized is not only thanks to its design, but also the design of the base layer where it roots the smart contracts (called HTLCs) on which it is founded.

It would do you less good to build a lightning network on top of a centralized and trusted base layer.  Sure, the actions on the second layer could attempt the same exact advantages and even be trust minimized, but the third parties controlling the base layer could still censor the HTLCs thereby wrecking the whole thing.

The Birth of a Network

Only 100 years ago power grids were coming up across the US, and the rest of the world.  People did not need to know how they worked to benefit from light, air conditioning, machines, and all sorts of other inventions that were plugged into the base layer of the power grid. And the decisions needed for all this to work were made correctly.  These decisions power the computers the bitcoin network runs on. They power the ham radios that can broadcast a transmission. The decision to use AC instead of DC enables us to send vast amounts of power over long distances safely, and it is hard to imagine it working another way.

Our children will one day live in a world where they take the base monetary layer for granted.  They might not even know that their digital wallets use something called the BOLT protocol to transmit value with the least amount of trust possible.  And they will take it for granted that the choice for the system to be built on the simplest, most efficient base layer possible was as obvious as it was necessary.

A rectangle is not always a square, and a trust minimized system cannot be effectively run atop a centralized base.

We discover that the universe works certain ways.  We can change the names and classifications of things all we want, but Pluto will keep spinning around out there in the darkness no matter what we call it.  There will only ever be one number nine. And the bitcoin network, if it is successful, will always be decentralized.

What an exciting time to be alive!  As history is written the people witnessing the world change have an entirely different vantage than the generations that come after and can piece it all together neatly and succinctly.   But they will call us lucky.
2019  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 24, 2021, 02:22:50 PM


I really kind of like Pal.

But his arrogant "You maxis are toxic and should welcome other ideas" nonsense was pretty strong right before the dump.

I wonder if he came around at all yet, or will just hold the line.
2020  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 24, 2021, 01:21:14 PM
I'm thinking of buying a 3D printer, and I'm looking at the Anycubic Photon Mono, a resin printer, and maybe a Creality3D Ender-3 V2 for prints that don't need fine details.

I will mostly be printing stuff for model railways in H0 (1:87) scale so the resin printer will be for the small fine detail stuff and the other one for the rest.

They both seems to have good reviews and a reasonable price, do you guys have any comments or experience on these machines that you could kindly share?

Pretty serious 3d printing hobbyist here.  Have owned a few machines.  Since you are talking about printing for fine detail the resin printers are going to be a different class.  But since you bring up the Ender for the other stuff, I had to chime in on that sort of printer...

I have heard nothing but super good things about the Creality Ender, and I naturally an uber-cheapskate.  But I went with the Prusa i3, mainly to build it as a project with my daughter.

From my understanding you do not make many compromises for less than 1/3d the price with the Creality.  It is nearly as fine a printer as the i3.

BUT.

It was worth the extra money to behold the feat of engineering that the i3 is.  It is an amazing thing.  Beautiful design.  Really really awesome engineering.  It is built from parts that it has printed.  Joseph Prusa is an eccentric purist visionary and his products reflect it.

Advantages for paying the extra:

you get arguably STILL the best platform for the price range
you get a large passionate community
there are tons of mods and projects aimed at this platform.  I have printed a couple cool drawers for mine.
the raspi integration is cool.
but most of all you BUILD your printer.

That last one is important because no matter what printer you buy you will be needing to understand deeply how it works because these things need adjustment, maintenance and tweaking.  Having built my printer I know it inside and out, and if something acts funny, I know where all the screws are etc.

That said, I might also get an Ender as a second machine... 3d printing is very fun.
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