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May 24, 2021, 08:15:11 PM

Another leg down is setting up right now. The bitcoin price won't be able to sustain itself above $35k for 10 consecutive days.

Every damn time, best reverse indicator ever. You should charge for this shit, bruh.

Observing $39,556.




Let this man dissapear they don’t give this man a chance to speak about bitcoin
He ruines all

Actually he may simply be looking to sell his battery wall with a few panels to run your mining gear cleanly.

He may have scared away the morons and soft hands.  Lets see if he offers a 'clean' power pack for a home miner.

Or fuck em as honey badger does not care.
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May 24, 2021, 08:15:56 PM

Another leg down is setting up right now. The bitcoin price won't be able to sustain itself above $35k for 10 consecutive days.

Every damn time, best reverse indicator ever. You should charge for this shit, bruh.

Observing $39,556.



Elon has finished his current buying session then.
A little tweet and the following pump puts him immediately in profit.
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May 24, 2021, 08:17:38 PM

Another leg down is setting up right now. The bitcoin price won't be able to sustain itself above $35k for 10 consecutive days.

Every damn time, best reverse indicator ever. You should charge for this shit, bruh.

Observing $39,556.




Let this man dissapear they don’t give this man a chance to speak about bitcoin
He ruines all

Actually he may simply be looking to sell his battery wall with a few panels to run your mining gear cleanly.

He may have scared away the morons and soft hands.  Lets see if he offers a 'clean' power pack for a home miner.

Or fuck em as honey badger does not care.

I buyed the dip, I maked some money with alts.
Buyed back all the way down for the only one king daddy BTC


Edit; I hope it isn’t a bear Trapp  Sad
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May 24, 2021, 08:32:23 PM

Wifey dropped a huge renovation project on my head (not unexpectedly)...she says..."you can afford it".

The bounce to the rescue..sold a bit of some alt on a 100% bounce, lol, and the work is covered with excess.
No way I would be selling btc, that's what alts are for (aka selling).
The best part does not bring the subject of selling btc anymore after it recovered above the 2017 high, which is just fine with me.

A small story: many genes have minor alleles (gene variants) with a rather high prevalence of 1-10%. This is humanity's (or any species) "insurance" card in case something truly horrible like HIV comes. Case in point: 1% of the population is fully immune to HIV because a particular gene, CCR5, is mutated/inactivated (both copies) and 10% are not fully immune, but protected to a degree (one copy of CCR5 is intact, one mutated). Therefore, even if we had NO medicines against HIV, we (human race) would have survived it, like chimps did their virus (SIV).

IMHo, alts are those 1% 'weird' alleles, not really needed, but a hedge in case something would happens to bitcoin. Therefore, it is my philosophy to invest small sums using fiat and then sell the rips, fully or partially.

TLDR; Bitcoin is for holding and measuring your wealth in (like @Capslock had eloquently explained). Therefore, fiat and, possibly, alts are for spending. Why I even included alts..because they oscillate and sometimes go up 100X in a few mo, so if you are nimble enough, you can play and get 'play money' as a result.
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May 24, 2021, 08:51:16 PM

If someone proposes a cryptocurrency that runs only on dirty energy and baby's blood I'll buy some.

I want my money to actually have an impact on the world, not just be some silent do nothing transactions that don't affect anyone.

If my cryptocurrency isn't burning full planets at a time I have no use for it. Leave the low carbon coins like Bitcoin to the plebes.
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May 24, 2021, 09:01:34 PM


Explanation
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May 24, 2021, 09:02:24 PM

Oh so Elon spoke with "North American miners"... well, he certainly didn't speak with me so right there I already know he's full of shit.
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May 24, 2021, 09:05:52 PM

It’s just a horse abs pony show. Everyone can do as they please. Bitcoin won’t care. That’s the beauty of it.
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May 24, 2021, 09:08:47 PM

Oh so Elon spoke with "North American miners"... well, he certainly didn't speak with me so right there I already know he's full of shit.

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May 24, 2021, 09:12:21 PM

Oh so Elon spoke with "North American miners"... well, he certainly didn't speak with me so right there I already know he's full of shit.

Yeah well you know... Elon maybe just not a keyboard warrior...  Tongue

though I think he lost credibility in BTC-space for sure.
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May 24, 2021, 09:13:11 PM

Nobel Prize-winning economist calls Bitcoin a ‘cult’

"There always seems to be a new crop of believers. Maybe just think of it as a cult that can survive indefinitely," Krugman said.

https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/nobel-prize-winning-economist-calls-bitcoin-a-cult/
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May 24, 2021, 09:17:07 PM

If someone proposes a cryptocurrency that runs only on dirty energy and baby's blood I'll buy some.

I want my money to actually have an impact on the world, not just be some silent do nothing transactions that don't affect anyone.

If my cryptocurrency isn't burning full planets at a time I have no use for it. Leave the low carbon coins like Bitcoin to the plebes.

I guess, the pattern speaking in hyperbolas was a bit extended there, right? lol

Proposing the "Sun in 1000002021 AD" cryptocurrency, aka SUID would be appropriate (fitting).
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May 24, 2021, 09:22:08 PM

though I think he lost credibility in BTC-space for sure.

I think he just tested his influence with that tweet. Moron could spread FUD tomorrow again.
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May 24, 2021, 09:28:18 PM

I definitely agree it will in time have an effect on the precious metals market..

I have never seen a gold coin in person, thinking of maybe getting one gold maple leaf (canadian), but the premium is crazy (like 8% with shipping).
Is it heavy and shiny, lol? If I get one, it would be just for the sake of curiosity.
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May 24, 2021, 09:33:44 PM

I definitely agree it will in time have an effect on the precious metals market..

I have never seen a gold coin in person, thinking of maybe getting one gold maple leaf (canadian), but the premium is crazy (like 8% with shipping).
Is it heavy and shiny, lol? If I get one, it would be just for the sake of curiosity.

I tried to buy a silver coin on Amazon via Purse. It had a 20% premium so I asked for a 20% discount. Nobody bit.
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Thank you sir.  I added some little pictures to give it some flair. Ha.

The idea for this tome-let was prompted by the Elon tweet about "bigger faster, cheaper".  Whatever he said...

It hit me that not only am I learning deeper nuance of why this thing is important, and why there are aspects of it that we CANNOT sacrifice to things like "faster, cheaper, bigger", but there are currently, and always will be people who do not understand why the ingredients required to keep Bitcoin decentralized will ALWAYS be under attack.  Both because it's almost always the first thought for optimization when you do NOT understand how it works, as well as it's also the most powerful way to subvert the system once you DO.

So, we have to keep singing this song 'till the whole world knows it.
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May 24, 2021, 09:53:14 PM

from drudge...gov wants to crack open your wallets. "Privacy... up yours".
Noice /s

https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2021/05/irs-wants-tools-cracking-crypto-wallets/174246/


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May 24, 2021, 09:58:25 PM

Stating the obvious:
"Why don’t we just scrap the whole mining idea and just let Elon sign the blocks? Sounds pretty green to me."
https://twitter.com/_benkaufman/status/1396935233396744192
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TLDR; Bitcoin is for holding and measuring your wealth in (like @Capslock had eloquently explained). Therefore, fiat and, possibly, alts are for spending. Why I even included alts..because they oscillate and sometimes go up 100X in a few mo, so if you are nimble enough, you can play and get 'play money' as a result.

TLDR... stop being so god damned ridiculously dogmatic about what peeps should or should not do with their BTC.  Peeps can do whatever the fuck they want, especially if they have already met their personal goals and they are able to continue to meet, maintain or even exceed their personal goals in a variety of ways that are of their own choosing, including if they want to sell some portion (even all) of their BTC.

Of course, I already gave a pretty damned specific and even realistic hypothetical example (not necessarily based on any particular known person), of a person has a goal of achieving $1 million  by 2021, but then realizes that he actually would be better served with $2million by that same date, but then when he also realizes that his BTC has become worth $12 million.  Accordingly, he should not feel any inhibitions in shaving off some BTC because he has $10million excess of his own personal financial wealth accumulation goals.

Sure, maybe this particular peep could be well served by increasing his personal financial goals, or maybe he can consider that he should have started shaving off profits way before having had reached $12 million... whatever he decides to do, then he has choice and discretion in planning or replanning that or even concluding that he has achieved way in excess of his own personal financial wealth accumulation goals. 

Further, what happens if his wealth accumulation goal is $2 million, and then he just let's his $12million continue to accumulate value and he does not shave off any BTC when his BTC stash has already reached $12million, and then BTC does another 8x from $40k per coin to $320k per coin, then all of a sudden he has $96million and his personal financial accumulation goal has not come off of $2 million? 

Of course it is not a bad problem to have, and it is not even unrealistic that this kind of a "problem" could end up happening to some one because I already explained a pretty damned possible circumstances in reaching such a $12million accumulation status at today's prices.. and many of us realize that it is not unrealistic for BTC to go through another 8x price appreciation from here.

Surely, I can think of all kinds of circumstances that guys are still struggling to get to fuck you status, even if they have been in BTC accumulation for a decent amount of time, but there are surely circumstances in which guys could well end up accumulating way more wealth than they are able to spend and it makes a lot of sense for them to shave some off... and maybe their "problem" just keeps getting worse at a certain point, especially if they do not shave off, and not everyone wants to accumulate wealth beyond their goals.. maybe they can tolerate another 3x or 5x or even 10x to have a bit more cushion, but at some point, if they are 48x beyond the top of what they thought that they needed, they have to start to become way more creative (and possibly beyond their own competency) in trying to spend their money in ways that are suitable to their own personality traits and preferences.

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I definitely agree it will in time have an effect on the precious metals market but I don't think it's holding it back get but I'm just going off a gut feeling I've done literally zero research.

With a quick Google it looks like the market cap on gold and silver is 13 trillion combined, Bitcoin is almost a trillion right?


You are going to be grasping at straws if you merely take a snapshot of where these assets are at currently.

In 2015, bitcoin was struggling to stay above a $5 billion market cap.  In other words bitcoin has between 160x and 240x more value than it had in 2015 (depending on which location you are locking in).

You think that bitcoin is going to stagnate? You think that bitcoin cannot do another 20x?

Sure not everyone can appreciate the amount of value that bitcoin has gained, and they conclude that bitcoin is going to be topping out soon, when I believe that it has largely already beaten gold and silver and other various PMs... Sure it could take some time for some of the measurements to feel more comfortable, but bitcoin can already do way more than those PMs in terms of sovereignty over value so long as a person has connections on both ends, he can move value anywhere in the world, and of course, more and more peeps are willing to accept bitcoin and even if they are moving a small amount of value, such as a few million dollars in value, they may well even be able to do that without anyone even really noticing... try doing that with gold/silver pms, and those private planes even get searched sometimes.


Kinda really shows how much fucking stupid paper money floating around there is when it's all just faith in the government  Sad

Surely hardly any of this is tangible for a lot of normies, and even in the bitcoin learning space some of us are still trying to figure this stuff out.. including getting exposed to information and knowledge that we thought that we would never have any interest.. but then holding bitcoin sometimes will cause exposure to a variety of macro economic concepts that help to establish at least part of the the bitcoin investment thesis.

Btw yeah we're still buds, I actually really like most people on here, R0ach and gembitz and those crpyptnaut fucks where's the exception.

I will try NOT to cry.. even though sometimes I even get mad, angry and frustrated at "good buds" in these here parts.. and I am sure that the feeling is mutual.. because I have been told so, several times.
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