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2021  Other / Meta / Re: For Theymos on: February 10, 2019, 08:43:06 PM
It’s getting ridiculous now, Meta is absolutely full of window lickers complaining about the DT.
Are you TMAN's alt?

What difference does it make to your life that a few people gave you negative trust?
I'm amazed how some go crazy about something relatively insignificant (especially in this version of the trust-system). Even if a rating in unjust, you need to remain sane. Consistently thinking about something negative like that is going to have a very negative effect on your life.
2022  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal on: February 10, 2019, 08:40:43 PM
That image is 100% real, you think ill make that one? That is from my withdrawal screenshot. You did see my deposit too right? You think i made up that too?
I don't think you made this up but I still like to hear both sides.
Cloudbet has offered zero answers. The only one telling there side is Swofty
This is what bothers me the most about this case. An explanation would be very welcome.
2023  Other / Meta / Re: For Theymos on: February 10, 2019, 08:37:55 PM
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This forum crying for proper moderation and end of the "Mafia" era.
What kind of mafia counters its own ratings?

/thread
2024  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal on: February 10, 2019, 05:21:09 PM
as I've suggested earlier: Release the initial deposit and then investigate the winnings later.
They can't do that because they said:
There have been several people from different territories contacting us via different channels to claim ownership of the account, with varying degrees of evidence provided.
But Ronnie doesn't want to talk about:
Regarding 330BTC scam accusation, how many people actually have access to account?
Has OP stated whether the funds can be returned to the address that they came from or not?
2025  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal on: February 10, 2019, 04:15:06 PM
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== By the way I wonder where are all these DTs except Lauda and marlboroza? Thanks  Lauda and marlboroza for taking part in the conversation however where are the rest? I do not see them engaging in the conversation. Is there any hidden agenda? I also see people are still endorsing cloudbet even a global moderator. Why are the DTs so silent here?
Busy with their lives I would guess. Being DT does not necessarily require you to help out in any of these cases. I've also tagged them now as this has gone on for way too long already; as I've suggested earlier: Release the initial deposit and then investigate the winnings later.
2026  Economy / Reputation / Re: In the crypto world of decentralization, DTs have the centralization power? on: February 10, 2019, 02:58:38 PM
Your ratings are well deserved; there's no reason to complain.
2027  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] 2018 BTCC loaded tenth - 3 day auction on: February 09, 2019, 08:58:50 PM
Ill bid 0.121BTC
Would this be the lowest price for this coin in recent times?
2028  Economy / Reputation / Re: @suchmoon could you provide info on this on: February 09, 2019, 08:25:09 PM
Thule multiple people have seen your post from your other account, deleting it has failed. Unfortunately, we didn't archive it in time. Cheesy
The ito-marketing one?  Yeah, I saw that and was wondering about it.  Thought my eyes were playing tricks on me for a minute, not that it surprised me one bit.
Yeah that one, one more person asked me about it. I wonder if he's gonna deny it now. Roll Eyes
2029  Economy / Reputation / Re: @suchmoon could you provide info on this on: February 09, 2019, 08:19:55 PM
Thule multiple people have seen your post from your other account, deleting it has failed. Unfortunately, we didn't archive it in time. Cheesy
2030  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTS - 1 toz Gold & 100 toz Silver @ Spot, One Day Only on: February 09, 2019, 07:52:55 PM
Is the finger for sale?  Cheesy Nice looking items you have there kind sir.
2031  Economy / Reputation / Re: Calling out allyouracid to justify your Feedback on my profile (Community too) on: February 09, 2019, 07:50:00 PM
If Joel agrees, can we fix that?
I get the impression you don't know the difference between a trust list and trust feedback.
If I'm right, you definitely shouldn't be on DT2, and in that case the exclusions are completely justified even after removing your red trust.
Hm, maybe here's a thing I don't fully understand about the trust system:
"Trust depth".

Default Depth is 2, which means that from DT2 members, usually only the Trust Feedback, but not their respective Trust Lists have any influence on newbies' Trust Scores, right?
Or am I off by 1, so that even DT2's Trust Lists propagate?
The people you add are your DT0, their list is your DT1 and the list of those members is your DT2. If you use DefaultTrust only then you see only DT1 and DT2. This is why it is kind-of recommended to set depth 1 if you use a fully custom list.
2032  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should the UK return the Venezuelan gold? on: February 09, 2019, 05:02:38 AM
It looks like neoconservatists are nutjobs that are a danger to everyone. I can only advise independent readers to say no to the US corrupted warmachine, with or without Maduro.
Lets see, "neoconservatists" would be those who want keep the current status quo, ie. Maduro in power... But now is opening a chance to end it after years of stagnation, grief and dead.
I was referring to the US neoconservatists which are desperate for war.

So better keep things alone and do nothing, because that is somehow better than taking a chance the people have been waiting for decades?

I don't think so...
Right, and how have these interventions worked out so far? How many had to die because the US was trying to "restore democracy"? If this really gets on the way, you can expect false flag chemical attacks in Venezuela as well.
2033  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2019, 04:47:44 PM
$3,500 incoming? And if that barrier breaks where we stop who knows?
Broken @stamp.
2034  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: February 08, 2019, 04:39:04 PM
They jumped on me like a pack of wolves. I only put together a full trust list the other day.
Obviously I see your good work & scam busting around the forum so I added you then they pounced Cheesy
Thanks. Let's end our mini-Meta interaction here before you get further associated with me and then attacked because of that. It's better to keep it in here.

The problem with that is that they haven't done anything that would involve trading and Trust is meant to be a representation of your Marketplace Feedback. Theymos has pointed out that this, in his opinion, is an inappropriate usage of the trust system and probably believes more along the lines of what qwk has said; it would be evidence that the new system isn't doing it's job.

They're being public with their intentions and actions (for the most part). They're just playing petty politics in a disgusting manner. It is certainly harmful to the forum from where I'm standing, but in my opinion the most appropriate response would be excluding these users and allow the system to do what it is meant to do.
I call bullshit on that; you know very well as I do that if I were the one to create such a shady thread that many wolves would wake up demanding that I be negged to the ground. The system did what it is supposed to, and that is to rate people that are shady which that bunch is. In no context is publicly advocating including scammers into trust lists trustworthy behavior.
2035  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: February 08, 2019, 04:28:50 PM
It seems to me like that whole list of users (if each is actually involved) should just be permanently blacklisted and the problem goes away.
That seems excessive. They're insignificant to DT.
Abuse is abuse regardless of your position (in this context). Let's remain consistent here.

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Anybody else been a victim of a ‘mass distrust’ in a short period of time despite being a perfectly honest member of the community?
It seems to me like that whole list of users (if each is actually involved) should just be permanently blacklisted and the problem goes away.
It’s a who’s who of shit posters/spammers/scammers

Wink
But but, I heard Lauda unfairly tagged them so it's only fair that they gang up on innocent bystanders Huh
2036  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: February 08, 2019, 04:21:36 PM
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Anybody else been a victim of a ‘mass distrust’ in a short period of time despite being a perfectly honest member of the community?
It seems to me like that whole list of users (if each is actually involved) should just be permanently blacklisted and the problem goes away.
2037  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should the UK return the Venezuelan gold? on: February 08, 2019, 04:17:51 PM
It looks like neoconservatists are nutjobs that are a danger to everyone. I can only advise independent readers to say no to the US corrupted warmachine, with or without Maduro.
2038  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cloudbet not responding for my 330 BTC withdrawal on: February 08, 2019, 01:37:43 PM
I would highly advise Cloudbet to return the deposit as soon as possible, and then they can "deal" with the rest for a prolonged amount of time.
2039  Economy / Reputation / Re: @suchmoon could you provide info on this on: February 08, 2019, 08:03:54 AM
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He is begging me because according to his PM's he is getting massiv threats on his main account to get his business destroyed on BCT which is his main income source.
He begged to delete the whole thread.
He's lying or you're lying. There's no other explanation to this thread. The PM authenticity can be trivially proven by the accuser as was said already. The fact that the accuser has not done so means that the PMs are not legitimate.
2040  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: Display risked bitcoin amount on profile. on: February 07, 2019, 07:54:19 PM
The more trades you publicize, the bigger target you become. I wouldn't mind this but it would generally not show the whole picture.
I'd argue the more experience a user shows with actual handling of BTC, the less likely a scammer is to try and target them, as they're obviously not going to fall for stupid scam tricks.  Publicizing such things does make you a target for petty jealousy though, which leads to forum drama.
I was thinking in the lines of someone trying to find who you are i.e. physically targeting you rather than a scammer trying to target you; but you make a good point there too.
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