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2061  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: September 09, 2015, 08:04:46 PM
Nitrogen will have live betting for the NE/Pitt NFL game tomorrow.

Good to know that. Do you know if it is only for that game , or if it is a test for adding live betting to the other games and other sports in the future?
Looks to be a test but they may add it for Sunday games. No official word yet.
2062  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: September 09, 2015, 07:40:51 PM
Nitrogen will have live betting for the NE/Pitt NFL game tomorrow.
2063  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: September 05, 2015, 03:15:55 AM
I'll be gone until Monday in case I don't reply to a PM or answer here. Good luck with all your wagers.
2064  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: September 05, 2015, 03:13:20 AM
Update from Jetwin

- No Deposit Bonus is available to all customers;
- Help Section on Deposit page (For easier conversion fiat players to BTC);
- Security: Improved Session Timeout function;
2065  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: September 03, 2015, 03:45:53 PM
Betcoin raises limits to 10 btc for the NCAA, NFL and NBA.
2066  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: September 02, 2015, 01:51:42 PM
What are your thoughts on Fairlay? Seems like it has the potential for the best odds?
I agree with you in that Fairlay has a lot of potential. They have a clean payout history. One thing holding their rating down is that they aren't meeting the 15 minute payout limit. They are still working out some minor kinks but have a high ceiling with their model and offerings.
2067  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: September 02, 2015, 01:17:48 AM
Nitrogen is now a sponsor of Vega Squadron for the esports guys. http://en.vega-squadron.com/news/nitrogen-sponsors-vega-squadron
2068  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: September 02, 2015, 01:11:36 AM
DirectBet uses the "back" odds from Betfair adding more take out. There is a minimum amount needed at Betfair for DirectBet to put up a line. Many times there aren't lines up on one side or both since lines are dependent upon lines at an exchange. The lines at DirectBet aren't competitive in American markets.

With deposit books when a bet is placed , the player gets notice if the bet is accepted or rejected in a short period of time. With DirectBet confirmation of accepting/rejecting a bet isn't made until the time the money leaves the players wallet until it reaches DirectBet's wallet.

Most of the time this is immediate but there is also the possibility of not knowing if a bet is accepted or rejected for an hour or more. While this hasn't happened for a while, a few months ago confirmations were delayed on a daily basis. Most of the time it was due to the site going up and down, but it can be from any delay in DirectBet receiving a bet after coins leaving the player's wallet.

DirectBet once had the advantage of being a non-deposit book but the advantage no longer exists with the speed in which deposits and withdrawals occur at other books. Some have instant deposit/withdrawals.

Books rated "B-" and higher are recommended books. DirectBet isn't capable of meeting the recommended status due to the system in which they use to confirm/reject bets. There should never be extended delays. One delay is one too many.

Very interesting, so no point to rate DirectBet now?
They are rated a "C" now. Some ratings are going to go up/down as well as opening ratings on NR books after week 1 of the NFL. Week 1 should be a good test.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Jetwin B+ (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Fairlay C (2014)
DirectBet C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014))
Betbtc D (2014)


"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014)
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
bitsportsbook.org
BTCBook
Coin178.com
Flutterclub.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
2069  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 29, 2015, 05:06:01 PM
Update
2070  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 24, 2015, 11:06:18 PM
Peeps - What is the amount of time for a withdrawal from a BTC book that you deemed acceptable?

I believe within 5 minutes?
15 minutes
2071  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 20, 2015, 09:43:16 AM
You might want to update about BTCBOOK about being a confirmed scam in the first post. Also any reason not to consider Directbet under the A or B graded book ?
One risk about sportsbooks is that they can scam for the funds but since they offer instant payouts after game, I believe that alone is a big step towards developing a good trust.

Thanks for the update on BTCBOOK.

This was written earlier on DirectBet
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DirectBet uses the "back" odds from Betfair adding more take out. There is a minimum amount needed at Betfair for DirectBet to put up a line. Many times there aren't lines up on one side or both since lines are dependent upon lines at an exchange. The lines at DirectBet aren't competitive in American markets.

With deposit books when a bet is placed , the player gets notice if the bet is accepted or rejected in a short period of time. With DirectBet confirmation of accepting/rejecting a bet isn't made until the time the money leaves the players wallet until it reaches DirectBet's wallet.

Most of the time this is immediate but there is also the possibility of not knowing if a bet is accepted or rejected for an hour or more. While this hasn't happened for a while, a few months ago confirmations were delayed on a daily basis. Most of the time it was due to the site going up and down, but it can be from any delay in DirectBet receiving a bet after coins leaving the player's wallet.

DirectBet once had the advantage of being a non-deposit book but the advantage no longer exists with the speed in which deposits and withdrawals occur at other books. Some have instant deposit/withdrawals.

Books rated "B-" and higher are recommended books. DirectBet isn't capable of meeting the recommended status due to the system in which they use to confirm/reject bets. There should never be extended delays. One delay is one too many.
2072  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 20, 2015, 04:50:09 AM
Where the best to bet then?
Depends on your needs but these 6 are recommended.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Jetwin B+ (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)
2073  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 19, 2015, 08:11:27 PM
I posted this in the betcoinsports thread:

"This gives a good idea of how few customers this sportsbook has.

They update the site 6 days ago. The old passwords no longer work. But only 1 player posts about this problem trying to login, and he doesn't post until 6 days later.


This also demonstrates how utterly and hopelessly incompetent this sportsbook is.

They do an update and it's necessary to contact live chat to setup new passwords.
But they do not send out email notifications, they do not post such in this thread, they do not have a message stating this on their site.

I tried to login and got the standard popup "Incorrect username/password".
No message about what the problem is and how to solve it."


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281850.msg12187538#msg12187538

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Has live chat been of any help?
2074  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 19, 2015, 08:05:06 PM
when will you add directbet to the list ?
they are currently the #1 bitcoin sportsbook
the chart only contains "A" and "B" rated books. DirectBet is "C"

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Jetwin B+ (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Fairlay C (2014)
DirectBet C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014))
Betbtc D (2014)


"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
BTCBook F (2014) ................no payouts are being made due to a DDoS attack. One player has been waiting since 4/17/05.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014).............accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
bitsportsbook.org
Coin178.com
Flutterclub.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

2075  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 19, 2015, 07:24:56 PM
Update.

Books- If you see anything else that needs an update, let me know. Thanks

2076  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 14, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
Update

2077  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 11, 2015, 05:41:21 PM
So i notice for mlb, nitrogen has a 4btc limit for ml and totals.  However as it gets close to gametime, its 10 btc limits.  Then when its very close to gametime, its 20btc limits.   First off, if you bet the max btc allowed with 4btc, can you rebet again similar to pinnacle?  Or do you have to wait for the line to move, then you can bet another 4btc.  The same with when it gets to 10 btc limits and then 20btc limits.  Also is there a way to bet more on the overnight limits? 


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Hey Viking,

That's a great question! At the moment, you can only hit the same limit, multiple times on our entertainment lines. If you'd like to bet more on other sports, you will have to wait for the limit to increase as we get closer to game time. If you have any feedback or suggestions regarding betting limits, we'd be happy to hear it! Feel free to DM us or email support@nitrogensports.eu.

All the best,
Calvin
2078  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 11, 2015, 06:16:18 AM
So i notice for mlb, nitrogen has a 4btc limit for ml and totals.  However as it gets close to gametime, its 10 btc limits.  Then when its very close to gametime, its 20btc limits.   First off, if you bet the max btc allowed with 4btc, can you rebet again similar to pinnacle?  Or do you have to wait for the line to move, then you can bet another 4btc.  The same with when it gets to 10 btc limits and then 20btc limits.  Also is there a way to bet more on the overnight limits?  
They don't allow you to bet more than the limit so you can't rebet until a limit increase. I haven't tried to double pop myself, but that's what I was told by Nitrogen some time ago when I asked.
2079  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 11, 2015, 05:44:13 AM
How about cloudbet, I have seen so many complaints about that, the nearest case is that a guy said CB cancelled his bet and claimed CB is a scam, but actually the match result of his bet was retirement, it is very normal to cancel tennis retirement bets, so I re-consider CB again, I wanna do more research on CB cause their odds are highest, tennis betting only has very low 5% margin there, much lower than other casinos' 7%-10% margin.

I did read that in the Cloudbet thread but it looks like their rules cover retirement.

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Hi there

As we mentioned in our email - as per our sportsbook rules, all in-play tennis bets are voided in the event of a retirement. In the bet in question, you made a live in-play tennis bet and there was a retirement, so your bets were void as per our rules.

https://www.cloudbet.com/en/sportsbook_rules
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Live Tennis

For live Tennis events the following rules apply, and will supersede those of pre-live tennis:

In case of a retirement and walk over of any player all undecided bets are considered void.
If a player retires all undecided bets are considered void.
Every tie-break or Match tie-break counts as 1 game.

Please let us know if there is anything else we can help with.

Cloudbet
2080  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: August 11, 2015, 05:17:31 AM
bitcasino.io/sportsbook - Casino that just opened up a sportsbook.

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Bitcasino.io Debuts Sportsbook, 20,000 mBTC Competition Massimo Leung  August 4, 2015
Montenegro-based BitCasino.io, a licensed and regulated online Bitcoin-only casino gaming operator, has announced the launch of its sportsbook for the new English Premiership football season commencing 8th August 2015.
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