Hi Guys, Can we get the fact that we have 24/7 live chat added to the above list? Thanks Will do shortly. |
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Please post comments, reviews, praises and complaints here. Although this is a player's thread, books are encouraged to post. The only rule for books is to keep their conversation on their own book and not that of another book. "A" rated booksnitrogensports.eu A+ (2013) email: support@nitrogensports.eu and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes betcoin.ag A (2013) email: contact@betcoin.ag and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes bitcoinrush.io A- (2013) email: admin@bitcoinrush.io.......................................... Reduced juice: Yes. "B"rated booksjetwin.ps B- (2013) email: support@jetwin.ps Under maintenance. "C" rated booksanonibet.com C- (2011) email: info@anonibet.com............................................. Reduced juice: NomBet.io C- (2017) .............................................................................. Reduced juice: No"D" rated bookscloudbet.com D+ (2013) email: support@cloudbet.com .......................................Reduced juice:Yes coinbet24.com D+ (2015) .............................................................................Re duced juice: Nosportsbet.io D+ (2016) email: cs@sportsbet.io................................................ Reduced juice: No1xbit.com D (2016) email: support-en@1x-bit.com ......................................Two sets of lines. *Reduced juice is better than 1.91 (-110) on sides in major sports. "F" rated booksAnybet.eu . Ball2Win F . BetCas F . betking.io sportsbook closed Nov. 2018. betmatch.is closed 2018. BetVIP - closed 6/12/15 Bitbook F closed. Bitbm F . Bitcoinsport F closed Bitcoinlivebets F closed bitsport.bet closed 4/11/18 Blockbet F closed BTCBonusBook (2015). Casinoco (2015). Coinbet F Coindrafts F (2014) closed. DirectBet closed 5/21/17 Ghostbook (TOR) Gobetgo F (2013) Powerbet F (2016) Sportbet.im F closed. StakeBTC F closed Webetcoins F (2014) closed. Maximum grade based upon time in business: A - 2 years B - 1 year C - 3 months D - 1 month |
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One thing that we shouldn't do as players is multi-account to circumvent limits. If more then one person has an account in a household, let the book know prior to any problems occurring to get their approval.
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How about Casinos? Anyone play at Planet 7? I don't bother much with casinos, but they gave me some free spins and blackjack. I could cash out some, but is it worth the KYC?
For Bitcoin casinos it's the same, those who don't require KYC after registration can ask at any given time if it's stated in their T&C that's why you also have to pay attention to their rules and not just carelessly play without reading these information. Free spins and bonus is never worth the KYC but if you think they're trustworthy enough that's for you to decide. Many of us here are against KYC since you can have the same type of experience without having to go through these procedures. thanks for posting this since I'm not too familiar with the casinos. |
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Books have asked for KYC and then confiscated money for the following reasons:
1. Accused of money laundering.
2. Accused of match fixing.
3. Accused of double spend attempt.
The bitcoin books asking for KYC don't have any advantages over the top books. There's no good reason to put yourself in a position of being falsely accused. Books requiring KYC share information with other books and you don't want to be red flagged.
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This is raven's post in Darkstar's thread. He makes a great point. Seriously asking for KYC on a gambling website is the stupidest thing anyone can do.
Are these people unaware of their customers so much that they would ask KYC to begin with ?
I mean most of us come from countries where gambling is illegal and that is why we gamble in crypto currency instead of fiat, online gambling is not something I prefer to do but I have to do considering its not allowed in my country, so instead of illegally gamble here, I am going to give all my info to crypto casinos and get caught gambling because I accepted the casinos KYC deal and gave them all my information? Not a chance.
I can see KYC on rare occasions but many books are using it as an excuse to delay and confiscate winnings. We don't want to be hassled with KYC and have no idea on how our information will be used. Can we really feel safe that our Name, address, credit card numbers and phone numbers will not be abused. I mean how many staff people could gain access to this KYC info?! I don't see why 2FA is not enough. I'm asking in advance before I deposit to any sportsbook. How about Casinos? Anyone play at Planet 7? I don't bother much with casinos, but they gave me some free spins and blackjack. I could cash out some, but is it worth the KYC? Great points and always use 2FA. |
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This is raven's post in Darkstar's thread. He makes a great point. Seriously asking for KYC on a gambling website is the stupidest thing anyone can do.
Are these people unaware of their customers so much that they would ask KYC to begin with ?
I mean most of us come from countries where gambling is illegal and that is why we gamble in crypto currency instead of fiat, online gambling is not something I prefer to do but I have to do considering its not allowed in my country, so instead of illegally gamble here, I am going to give all my info to crypto casinos and get caught gambling because I accepted the casinos KYC deal and gave them all my information? Not a chance.
I can see KYC on rare occasions but many books are using it as an excuse to delay and confiscate winnings. We don't want to be hassled with KYC and have no idea on how our information will be used. |
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Supercrypt, raven, game-protect and Darkstar - thanks for the input.
Nitrogen and Betcoin are both great books. No one should be taking chances playing at new and lower rated books at this time. After the Super Bowl is an important time to check payouts. Please keep posting opinions and experiences as some rating changes will definitely be made after the Super Bowl.
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I didn't know about this topic before I selected my sportsbook at the time but bitcoinrush seem to be the best odds in almost any given game. Now I don't doubt darkstar_ is legit and not a puppet for bitcoinrush since he is known to make these kinds of posts all the time and he has always been honest but that leaves the question of why would other casinos not improve looking at this.
I mean if you are a sportsbook and you are listed here and see that bitcoinrush offers the best odds for any sportsbook including yours, wouldn't you want to beat them and lower your odds in order to be the best odd giver in crypto sportsbook world? Would you just say "whatever" and continue with your life? Whats the point of giving higher odds if it means overtime people will leave towards other games? Also darkstar_ , when was the last time you checked the odds because if the odds are still like this, I think I may move to bitcoinrush.
They don't change because people for the most part don't care and will just blindly bet at Nitrogen. I've seen quite a few people on the forum (ie Joca97 and some random Newbie) claim that Nitrogen has the best odds, which is clearly false. Margins shown here should still be accurate. I think that your margins are still accurate and very useful. Most of my play is with Nitrogen, Betcoin and Bitcoinrush. There are reasons to play at all three such as limits, withdrawal times, markets both pregame and live. The hold on NFL sides with Nitrogen (2.69%) and Bitcoinrush (2.67%) are almost identical and Betcoin is the best for EPL and other major European soccer. Those 3 are definitely the best books as far as safety in getting paid and not being hassled with KYC. |
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Books - feel free to PM me or post contests for the Super Bowl such as squares.
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If you want someone to build your own site, monsterbyte.io. They built bitcoinrush. |
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freedomgo and Initscri - thanks for the input. We want as much info as possible here along with personal experiences.
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Withdraw any money that you have at everybet. We received news Wednesday afternoon that one of our business critical technical suppliers had taken an executive decision that they no longer wished to support any cryptocurrency operations. This came as a shock to us and since that time we have been working round the clock to ensure that all of our customer base has been informed of this and have been returning funds to customers. At this point we do not have a date when this issue will be resolved as we are talking to different suppliers and working through when the site can be operational. It’s extremely disheartening for all involved. If any customer wishes to contact us then please either DM us here, or send a message to support@everybet.io. All customer funds are safe and we will process any withdrawal requests immediately. |
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a procedure provided by any bookmakers. Not any. For ex. nitrogen didn't request KYC. Betting on sportsbet.io is betting with risk and I think that "C" or "D" rate is reasonable. friend, I'm a bettor who plays big stakes and the first thing I do with any bookmakers is the verification of my identity, and only after I make my first deposit. The betting market is a dangerous sector because criminals sail us. And do not deposit even a cent / satoshi in book that do not comply with the international standards for anti-money laundering and anti-terrorism. Finally, in the sports betting sector, there is no authority that guarantees reliable and impartial ratings on bookmakers Many books with KYC go under. KYC isn't for player protection. Books don't have a right to hold our funds unless they are under court order. Sportsbet.io holds a sub-licence in Curacao. For all intents and purposes, they aren't worried about money laundering. Even if they are worried by AML/KYC laws, there's no reason to put yourself in the position of being falsely accused of money laundering and the hassles that go with it. The money laundering excuse is used as a reason to confiscate our money. |
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txxhekobeuberxxx has been bad. It's still recommended to only play at "A" rated books at this time.
Feedback is not updated. txxhekobeuberxxx has been paid. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.4040I bring to the attention that in almost all cases, these were players who had not done the identity verification procedure, a procedure provided by any bookmakers. I apologize as I meant to say "paid" instead of "bad". |
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txxhekobeuberxxx has been bad. It's still recommended to only play at "A" rated books at this time.
Feedback is not updated. txxhekobeuberxxx has been paid. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.4040I bring to the attention that in almost all cases, these were players who had not done the identity verification procedure, a procedure provided by any bookmakers. As dis93 pointed out, some books don't ask for KYC. It's rare that Nitrogen, Betcoin or Bitcoinrush will ask for any KYC information. |
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Glad to see you keeping up your posts, although Nitro definitely was not at all around in 2012. I am sure of that. They opened in 2013. Thanks. I'll check in with Nitrogen. |
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