May I ask when the first post was last updated? Is the info there still accurate and up to date?
Every time there is a rating change it is reflected on the first page. All of the ratings are current. |
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Any praises or complaints on withdrawals subsequent to the Super Bowl for sportsbooks?
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sbrzol- When you placed the bet at Fairlay that moved the line at Pinny, what market was that? I'm not playing any overnights or small markets where it's easy to move the line to check.
I think it was handball, you can move the price with 100-200 EUR (if the stake limit is only 100-300 EUR ) Here everybody can check that there is only a few bettor at fairlay. The first one is probably fairlay itself the so called market maker. https://www.fairlay.com/highscore/In the long-term everybody has negative roi at pinnacle who plays on dropping odds or sharp lines , so i can understand fairlay/nitrogen/betcoinag goal to take a bite from the cake. (by using pinnacle markets and lines) Probably fairlay satisfied with their income so they stopped developing/(bug)fixing their site. They have 38 users that played in the last 7 days? |
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sbrzol- When you placed the bet at Fairlay that moved the line at Pinny, what market was that? I'm not playing any overnights or small markets where it's easy to move the line to check what's going on at Fairlay.
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Fairlay can cancel your bet at anytime. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673475.msg13814311#msg13814311They have 2 types of customers: the so called market makers and the simple users. If a market maker makes an error ( on copying pinnacle lines/prices) then fairlay will cancel those matched bet. If you, as a simple user, make an error (offer swapped prices) then your matched bet never will be cancelled. But you will never know that the price you bet on were offer by a market maker or a simple user. I am sure that the so called market maker is fairlay itself. They (re)place all matched bets on pinnacle sports to "cover" their bets . Earlier i saw this, when i placed a bet on fairlay (at low stake limit) then the pinnacle odds on the same market immediately changed, as if i placed my bet on pinnacle directly. Fairlay bugs : "If you place bets on both side (lay, back) on the same market that is unmatched then fairly subtract both amount (back amount and lay liability) from your account. " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673475.msg12679065#msg12679065bet fully partially matched bug : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673475.msg13530525;topicseen#msg13530525 It's dangerous if Fairlay seeds the market and then has the ability to cancel in game or post game. That's not a true exchange. I would guess that only a small percentage of the wagers are player vs. player. |
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I'm happy that gogo is posting all problems, even in the poker room, so that we all have information on the various books. For the purposes of ratings, as has been stated before, only the sportsbook side of a book is considered in the ratings.
Betcoin.ag is currently making payments on the sportsbook side with no problems as far as I know and from what I have read. This is why the rating is unchanged.
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A lot of Broncos money has come in. The early betting action on Super Bowl 50 in Las Vegas was lopsided toward the favored Carolina Panthers.
That is changing. So much money has been showing up on the Denver Broncos recently that some sportsbooks are beginning to wonder if they'll be rooting for the Panthers come Sunday.
On Saturday, the Panthers were consensus 5.5-point favorites. They had opened as low as 3.5 favorites and attracted the bulk of the early money -- as much as 90 percent at some Nevada sportsbooks.
But a midweek flurry of big bets on Denver from respected players, followed by weekend money on the underdog Broncos, evened out the action. http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/14727630/super-bowl-50-late-money-denver-broncos-not-carolina-panthers |
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Betcoin Sports Super Bowl 50 - 1 BTC Guess The Score Promotion Enter the Betcoin Sports Super Bowl 1 BTC promotion by selecting a winning prematch wager and accurately predicting the score of the game. Details below! Betcoin Sports is excited to introduce the Betcoin Sports 1 BTC Super Bowl 50 promotion, simply place a winning wager of 0.015 btc or more on any Super Bowl prematch selection and accurately predict the score of the game and you will be entered for your share of 1 btc. In order to enter this promotion you must place your Betcoin Sports betslip in a comment on this thread https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion along with your predicted score of the game. You can enter this promotion up to 5 different times with 5 different wagers. By way of example: You can select Carolina to win -5 and a score of 26-17 in a comment on this thread https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion. You must include your ticket. Should multiple players win the wager and predict the score, the 1 BTC will be split among the winners. We wish everyone the best of luck and enjoy the game! |
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Is there anywhere that compares the prices of most books for the superbowl?
Any info appreciated, but particularly looking for the props. (I always like taking the bridge jumpers like no safety, no overtime, no 2 pt conversion thinking they are so unattractive to the average gambler they must have decent value)
Just looking over the ML and point spread at 5dimes, jetwin, nitrogen and Betcoin and finding a some bigger discrepancies than I thought.
For example:
If you want Carolina Moneyline, Nitrogen has the best price at -221 and Jetwin the worst -250. (5dimes, Nitrogen and Jetwin all have Denver +195, Betcoin +188)
But if you want to bet denver with the spread (+5.5), Jetwin offers the best price at -105.
I haven't seen anything that compares prop prices for the bitcoin books. I agree that the average gambler will be on, "yes" for will there be a safety. |
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Here are some of the bitcoin books that have gone under without paying all customers:
Coinbet
StakeBTC
Bitbook (paid all players that requested payouts within a 10 period although there were some that didn't see the notice in time)
Bit365
Blockbet
Bitcoinlivebets
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gogo mentioned it but now is the time to stick to top books. The public has heavily bet Carolina. As it stands now, if Carolina covers a lot of books will be hurting and some may go under.
anyone putting any merit into this idea? Possible? These go back many years but with the fiat books BetPanAm and Aces Gold were two big books to go under after the Super Bowl. Public still backing Carolina Super Bowl odds 2016: Vegas rooting heavily for the Denver Broncos http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/2/3/10904360/super-bowl-50-odds-panthers-vs-broncos-spread"This year is really rare in that nobody is betting on the Broncos. For whatever reason, we just don't seem to see any money coming in on Denver, and floods of money coming in on the Carolina Panthers," said Matt Holt, sports wagering expert with the Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas Race and Sports Book and CG Technology. |
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Had a bet pending on cloudbet for a long while before on an NBA match that was settled after a long wait, seeing people also complaining about new pending bets in their topic now.
You've tried to contact the service ? Cloudbet plans to launch new facilities it is causing all these problems occur no description of exactly how long it takes for these upgrades but if you have any problems please try to contact via email or send PM Cloudbet, just write citations Cloudbet : Hi all We launched a bunch of new upgrades have resulted in delays in resulting in some cases. We will have them all resolved very soon. Once our issues are all resolved, we will be launching a bunch of really cool new features that we are certain our players are going to love. In the meantime, please contact us via email at support@cloudbet.com if there is anything we can help with. Cheers, Cloudbet "Cloudbet plans to launch new facilities it is causing all these problems..." Cloudbet has had these same problems - slow grading of bets; unacceptably long times to send withdrawals; slow to non-existent cs in their bitcointalk thread and direct email of cs; etc. Do a search in this thread for "Cloudbet" and you can see that this has been going on since the site was launched. Several posters have also reported that they are now offering worse odds with a new odds provider. I would love for them to succeed as they (theoretically at least) take large bets and (did?) offer good odds, but I've always been disturbed by a site that takes among the largest bets of any sportsbook anywhere, yet can't get it together to grade efficiently, make withdrawals up to the standards of other books, and provide at least half decent cs. Superbowl is crazy. Car -5 -117 Den +5 -107 |
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gogo mentioned it but now is the time to stick to top books. The public has heavily bet Carolina. As it stands now, if Carolina covers a lot of books will be hurting and some may go under.
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If you are looking for Super Bowl props, Nitrogen and Bitcoinrush have a ton of offerings.
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Nitrogen SB promos. We’re gearing up for the NFL Super Bowl! We’re running a series of promotions this week leading up to the 2016 NFL Football Championship game. Participate in the Big Game promos to earn yourself free bets for the sportsbook and entries into the grand prize giveaway! The promotion will carry through from February 1st to February 6th 2016.
Big Game Poker GTD (Active February 1st to February 6th)
Big Game Parlay Promotion (Active February 1st to February 6th)
Big Game Super Roll (Active February 1st to February 6th)
Big Game Blackjack Promotion (Active February 1st to February 6th)
Grand Prize Draw (Final Draw on February 7th)
The promotion will end on February 7th at Super Bowl halftime with a Grand Prize Draw worth 1 btc. https://nitrogensports.eu/blog/big-game-promotion/All books feel free to post SB promos. |
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Thanks for the input guys.
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as Peeps Place explain in table picture here the bitcoin sportsbooks rank based on user reviews regarding lines, support , legalities etc
first , NitrogenSports
second , Betcoinsports
third , Jetwin
fourth , bitcoinrush
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i would recommend directbet too as they have a perfect service and supportthe only minor from directbet is yeah the very low odds.
All of what you mentioned and to add some. It's comprehensive and an overall rating. 1. Nitrogen, Betcoinsports and Cloudbet dominate the bitcoin sports betting market world wide. They are the biggest bitcoin sportsbooks with the most clients and seem to be safe. Jetwin has a clean record as does Bitcoinrush. DirectBet has the biggest backing here at bitcointalk. 2. In order to have a grading of "A" or "B" deposits and withdrawals must be done within a 15 minute window. Exceptions may be given to books with poker rooms. More fraud occurs in the poker rooms and books may need more time. There are also exceptions for large withdrawals and red flagged accounts. 3. DirectBet confiscated a player's deposit and winnings claiming an attempted hack. DirectBet has been made aware that confiscating a players deposit (bet in DirectBet's case) will prevent them from being a "B-" or above. Books rated "B-" and above are recommended. A book will never be recommended when they confiscate a players deposits. 4. Email must be responded to within 1 day. The time frames set for deposit/withdrawals and email response was set with the help of feedback in the rating's thread. 5. Offerings and theoretical hold (margins) are included in the ratings. thanks for telling us. i am quite happy with directbet until u tell me this which i feel very suspicious on playing on directbet. you're welcome. To add one more thing, the Super Bowl is a bad time to try suspect books. If a book is having problems, they normally will close shop after huge events such as the Super Bowl or World Cup. "A" and "B" books are best to play with Super Bowl day. After the Super Bowl withdrawal times will be checked on all books and upgrades/downgrades may occur. |
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"A" rated books
NitrogenSports A+ (2012)
"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Jetwin B+ (2013)
Bitcoinrush B (2013)
"C" rated books
Anonibet C+ (2011)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
DirectBet C+ (2014)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)
Betbtc C- (2014)
"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014))
"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F
NR
altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betmbtc.com
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
bitsportsbook.org
BTCBook
Coin178.com
coinbet24.com
Flutterclub.com
lvaction.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 |
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as Peeps Place explain in table picture here the bitcoin sportsbooks rank based on user reviews regarding lines, support , legalities etc
first , NitrogenSports
second , Betcoinsports
third , Jetwin
fourth , bitcoinrush
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i would recommend directbet too as they have a perfect service and supportthe only minor from directbet is yeah the very low odds.
All of what you mentioned and to add some. It's comprehensive and an overall rating. 1. Nitrogen, Betcoinsports and Cloudbet dominate the bitcoin sports betting market world wide. They are the biggest bitcoin sportsbooks with the most clients and seem to be safe. Jetwin has a clean record as does Bitcoinrush. DirectBet has the biggest backing here at bitcointalk. 2. Of the three biggest books, Cloudbet has the most hiccups as far as withdrawal times, customer support and other complaints. 3. In order to have a grading of "A" or "B" deposits and withdrawals must be done within a 15 minute window. Exceptions may be given to books with poker rooms. More fraud occurs in the poker rooms and books may need more time. There are also exceptions for large withdrawals and red flagged accounts. 4. DirectBet confiscated a player's deposit and winnings claiming an attempted hack. DirectBet has been made aware that confiscating a players deposit (bet in DirectBet's case) will prevent them from being a "B-" or above. Books rated "B-" and above are recommended. A book will never be recommended when they confiscate a player's deposits. 5. Email must be responded to within 1 day. The time frames set for deposit/withdrawals and email response were set with the help of feedback in the rating's thread. 6. Offerings and theoretical hold (margins) are included in the ratings. |
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