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2101  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 06:35:29 PM
2102  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 06:18:16 PM

So let me get this straight. I have no way of knowing if there was anything of the sort that I'm talking about. But I'm sure it was removed. Also I won't post any links to substantiate my claims because it's all illegal. Need Paul's hammer here.

My non Bias opinion:
I said this would happen.   Unless all the emails were released they were going to claim cherry picking.    And yes this is fair of them,  The whole picture is not being painted here.   We should also Be shown  the emails where he is trying to make the things he promised happen   or atleast have full access to the list so we can see that there are none.   Only picking out and posting the ones that are especially negative is indeed " Cherry Picking"

I read LOTS of them while they were up and I did not see a single one that indicated they (Josh/Gaw) were trying to do anything but damage control and keep the scam alive to rip people off further. At some point when you see a creature that has feathers and webbed feet and goes "quack quack" you have to accept that it is a duck. If you are a solipsist and prefer to not think that things are knowable that is your business, and yours alone! (Little solipsist joke there for those who actually understand solipsism)
2103  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 06:09:42 PM
And the predictable reply from the Spiderman underpants clad imbeciles on HT:

This moron wins the coveted "Hammerhead Award" for pure idiocy. Also, note the "upvote". Idiocracy is here folks...

Paul, don't underestimate posters like this. These could be the quiet diggers who ask slightly inconvenient questions instead of going into full "ban me now" mode. The idea is that a smart non-confrontational question like this might help to encourage critical thinking there.

Lost cause if you ask me, but it's their time to waste.



I do understand your point, but my methodology is different in trying to reach people. That idiotic comment from Duffer might have been tongue in cheek, but now there is a giant mountain of idiocy built upon that initial comment as the Batman underpants clad imbeciles all circle jerk in harmony building off of the non existent WSJ article which was spun out of unicorn poop by Homero after a WSJ blogger mentioned GAW.
2104  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 05:38:07 PM
Still up on HT after a whole 10 minutes! Bravo, Radiostatic, and prepare for the banhammer  my good man!




And the predictable reply from the Spiderman underpants clad imbeciles on HT:

This moron wins the coveted "Hammerhead Award" for pure idiocy. Also, note the "upvote". Idiocracy is here folks...

2105  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 04:55:00 PM
I am learning a bit more about tracing Blockchain. What fun stuff, it is amazing what you can find out doing that.  Wink
When I had traced that randomly selected ~13,000+ XPY  chunk that was being ping ponged around yesterday I did not know what I would find. Also, something was borked yesterday and address tags were not showing, but today they are there and now I see that most of the times where a "small" (5-10,000 XPY) chunk was cleaved off of a larger piece that was being laundered that they end up somewhere called "Cryptsy". Surprise Surprise, Surprise! LMFAO! In addition to that, I had stopped tracing yesterday at this address on 2015-02-25 21:35:22 : https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PAjUmTHnNnPFtFUnvEqApHVosnie76TQTW.htm  When I continued tracing backwards that went through several in>out sham transactions from new addresses and ended up coming from this address: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PDpkRQwQXXmiu24PzLfXLqMtFtAGj27ywH.htm

Cue Gomer again: "Surprise, Surprise, Surprise". Funny how you can actually start to remember these addresses after a while. That address just happens to be the same "most interesting address" (click here to see post)I traced several of the 125,000 XPY chunks that are traveling around currently to. That wallet has 27 addresses, ALL of which have been cleaned out in the past few days, but have been actively accumulating XPY (we will get to where it all traces back to soon) and sending them to this "Cryptsy" place, usually by bouncing them through several new addresses, many times these addresses belonging to same wallets.  Hmmmm. Sounds like some fucking amateur trying to conceal the source of all of this XPY. Even so, you have to look at Cryptsy and see that there are still substantial Buy Bids in place and that there is a plethora of fucking imbeciles on HT that can not figure this shit out which means this amateur coin laundering is apparently good enough.


Oh, and anyone want to take a guess as to the original source of ALL (minus minor amounts of coins made from staking) of this 1,000,000+ web of XPY connected together by the same addresses ? Yup, it ALL comes straight from here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?1.htm After leaving the Premine, most of this XPY goes to multiple addys , sometimes getting split and then recombined, and mostly ending up here at some point: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PC4FduchmWbHNYgkHeaB1foMDyhgpJszh6.htm and then continuing on through addy after addy and in the end all connecting together by the same accounts, including several cryptsy accounts which are all controlled by the same person with access to all of these coins. I know others, primarily VanceFox have already traced many coins back to the premine, but I think it worthy to note that the massive amounts of XPY currently being juggled about in a shell game are also straight from there. While most of the idiots on HT are focused on the 5,000,000 XPY "security wallet"  there are a couple Million more XPY that were grabbed from various addresses and are now being shuffled around. And this is NOT some outside hack, because there is direct links between what is on the move after these giant amounts were taken out of various accounts during 2/25-2/26 are ALL linked back to the accounts where they started.

Also, I started looking at some of the major outputs (1-10,000 where they go in odd amounts to several addys) from these Cryptsy addys and EVERY time there is a corresponding pretty red candle on the chart, so you morons can quit blaming everyone else, 90% of the dumping on Cryptsy is from a single source. You know, the one person who has access to the premine and all of these various wallets. Figure it the fuck out already for God's sake! In case you are completely fucking retarded (and I know some on HT apparently are), I will give you a clue who that person is:  



Wish I had some more time to flesh out some of this tracing, but everyone who cares should take a look and start following some of this XPY being shuffled around to try to obscure it's origin. ESPECIALLY our friends from HT who have a lot of money riding on the future of XPY. Stop HT circle jerking and do some investigating, morons!

2106  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 03:30:48 AM
Gotta love this. As if we are sitting here "dissecting the posts" made by the Batman underpants clad imbeciles circle jerking in that thread. Sorry moron, I have been trying to figure out where all of the XPY that are being laundered are going. You know, like YOU should be doing but apparently you are too fucking stupid to understand what is going on with the millions of XPY currently being laundered.



Listen up "Onetrack", ya effing imbecile. I am not the one currently making off with millions of XPY and laundering them to make them hard to trace. The ones doing that are the assholes that are telling you that everything is just fine and there is no cause for concern. WAKE UP! When these pilfered XPY start hitting the market THAT is going to send the price farther into the toilet, not me and others trying to wake dumbasses like you up.  

And what exactly is going on with your profile pic? Are you intentionally trying to make yourself look like an idiot? Or you just can't figure out that is the effect?
2107  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 02:59:15 AM
There are a couple of people starting to suspect that something is wrong with this Paycoin shuffle:


https://hashtalk.org/topic/33136/paycoin-movement/36
https://hashtalk.org/topic/33066/can-u-explain-what-this-means-staking-13-9

Most of the imbeciles in that thread are all giddy about how "GAW is looking out for them". WTF? They have had a massive security breach (internal or external) and have your coins (and BTC) locked up for almost a week, during which time the XPY coins have lost 1/3 of their value and you THANK these assholes for doing such a fine job? WTF is wrong with these idiots? You don't THANK people who fuck things up and screw you out of money.

I know of exactly one reason to shuffle coins from address to address and break them into smaller and smaller chunks, and that is to make them harder to trace. Am I missing something? The insinuation that this somehow increases security is complete bullshit.  If you read that thread the con men are only talking about the "customers' coins" being safe, but they do not talk about massive amounts being pulled out of lockup and broken down into hard to trace bunches. So they then they can be moved incognito on to exchanges maybe?



2108  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 02:18:06 AM
Definitely some shuffling and breaking up of coin blocks going on. I highly doubt has nothing to do with a hack or whatever. Check out the travelogue of the 13,000 XPY group found in this block:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/block.dws?88536.htm There are several similar blocks in the que, and I have not traced them all, but the first couple of transactions appear similar to this pattern.

That 13,000 came from here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PKoG3F2dUENUPhxNP5wT8ehzE5nzsnKzHT.htm
Which came from here : https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PUBkWNVf6KYaN4et5Ph4qH5BqUBvuxq2xA.htm
And so on, repeated several times in the past couple days:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PCAe2Ma1baVE1H1KdsZArfpzbLEoamV3Ls.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PSCU4Bx5v2mDRwwCKJ3K3dJnmaAbiAcnuZ.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PNHdtoQFMxhdCZDetbxJMEEbrf4H2aFrbC.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PUpcrtWieL3EiFN9QUqLjUyVsPT4RztLf7.htm

Here these were broken from a 25,000 XPY chunk @2015-03-03 15:42:06 :
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?371550.htm
Which came from here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PNHdtoQFMxhdCZDetbxJMEEbrf4H2aFrbC.htm
WHich came from here (3,000 cleaved off in this transaction): https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PUpcrtWieL3EiFN9QUqLjUyVsPT4RztLf7.htm
which came from here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PUCuU9P3XLhq2TqR6MM4N14akQro6VuN7i.htm

and here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PUCuU9P3XLhq2TqR6MM4N14akQro6VuN7i.htm
and here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PKyXLKBixz326pVgd45Y9YnfVJZouiBqCs.htm
and here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PDn2yEUiqmTVcREZ3de2trdaUqRNaya5Er.htm
and here(4,000 separated in this transaction) https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PC6exuLiHba4H4WfVMxFqWbEn8JsmQ2MnB.htm
31,000 now from here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PSUehFotTx798R2be2hWAPE8hJB3WgX644.htm

which was broken from a 56,000 chunk here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PEurvetTfXk2CjmoM6uxNdGqUbpfWchEPk.htm

which came from an 80,000 XPY chunk here in this transaction: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?352132.htm

which came from this address on 2015-02-25 21:35:22 : https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PAjUmTHnNnPFtFUnvEqApHVosnie76TQTW.htm

Looks like some coin shuffling to hide the origin of these coins to me, and I have seen MANY of these blocks of XPY being tossed from address to address repeatedly over the past few days while being broken into smaller and smalle chunks. If this is "hackers" how come it is Josh & Co deleting every thread about Blockchains on HT?Huh

P.S: Thanks for bringing PCs BS attack to light for me to "defend myself" , but I really do not care what he thinks. I post here for my own reasons and if he does not like it he is free to go have Josh shove an axe handle up his ass for entertainment. I know for sure I have learned a lot from this crash course on Crypto, and in the process I have also managed to help some others. That means more to me than what some worthless shill thinks any day.

Edit to add: looking at this post I see I screwed up some of the order of addresses. if you get lost just keep following backwards .





2109  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 01:13:29 AM
Another big shuffle: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/block.dws?88552.htm



These coins are getting moved from address to address repeatedly. Inside job? Hack? ICO investor pulling out? "Security Measure?" I wish I knew more about this aspect of things, but it looks to me like these coins are being shuffled like a shell game.

Round and round the ~Million XPY goes, where they stop somebody knows....
2110  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 12:08:28 AM
LMFAO! I saw the PCFan petition thread and skipped over it, I had no idea that the great almighty GAWCEO came out of hiding to try to rally the troops to bring back a deserter from the cult. Just shows you what the priorities are. Fuck reality, it is all about what the cultmembers think. The last of the old guard waking up and running out on the cult is serious to a cult leader.  It is all about keeping the scam going for ONE MORE DAY, and then the next day, repeat.
2111  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 05, 2015, 12:00:14 AM
I thought about digging through all of these emails, updating the article and/or writing a new one...but, I hardly think that is even necessary at this point.  I guess it is time to get started on one detailing the end / aftermath of GAW's collapse, and moving on to other subjects.  That is, unless I can get even more insight than these leaks can provide.

I think you should still write an article that way hashtalkers will see it. (they will never dig through this thread)

It's also just a lot of info to digest, would be nice if someone would pick out the important parts and summarize it.

Not only that, but the general consensus on HT is that the Coin Brief article was libelous and that you will soon be retracting your story.

Edit to add: I got ninja'd by Jimmothy. I was looking for that thread on HT, there are a bunch of idiots on there going on about how the article is false, even after PC fan admitted he was wrong and resigned from HT.

This is the thread on HT: https://hashtalk.org/topic/32996/coinbrief-article-update/100

Found another post I was thinking of:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/33111/what-exactly-is-going-on-can-someone-post-an-unbiased-account/11
2112  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 11:49:01 PM
XPY may live, but Paybase is dead, I have never seen such unprofessional display and lack of communication for on online wallet / exchange, does GAW not know
everything about online wallet / exchange is trust and confidence; it is completely shattered now and people are just hoping to be able to get their funds out ASAP

Amazingly enough there are some morons on HT saying they are trying to send more BTC there today. Could be pure shill action of course, but that lot is a special kind of fucking stupid. Something for sure though, is that these idiots have not brought up the price drop, specifically if someone had an XPY sell order in place when Paybase went down (or intended to make a sale). There was some circle jerking about how GAW and TeamXPY were so great because they wanted EVERYONE to cancel their orders that were in place when Paybase went down (supposedly saving them from paying 1/3 more for XPY when PB comes back), and not a single one of these Spiderman underpants wearing imbeciles said anything about the SELL orders (or intentions) which of course would benefit the users. If you had a 1,000 XPY sell order @ .0035 BTC (3.5BTC) in when Paybase went down would you want to get your 3.5 BTC or would you rather instead have your XPY back, which are now worth 2.2 BTC?
2113  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 11:05:01 PM
I don't care, Mr Felt. When some asshole person comes in here making 1,000 word posts about why the sky is actually not blue but actually more likely some shade of blue gray or maybe clear but actually black and maybe it is actually blue but no one can actually know for sure  I treat them all the same. Uhmkay?

LOL- And now I see that you are waiting on a payment from him? LMAO! COOL! Better get typing your endless dribble, trixter. That one satoshi per word is some low wages bragh!
2114  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 11:00:31 PM
Something is wrong with this forum, I keep seeing names in the thread list and no posts next to them. Oh wait, no, those are on ignore. I guess it works.
2115  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
What the fuck? Did somebody say something in here? Hellooooooooo!? Guess not, all I see is empty names. Have fun assholes, when you are done the truth will still be here. Toodaloo!
2116  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 10:53:30 PM
trixter is obviously getting paid to shill by the word and needs every fucking satoshi he is getting paid to be a professional solipsist and help keep the GAW/Paycoin turdboat afloat for another day.
2117  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 10:24:32 PM
People really should read back a few pages before wasting thousands of keystrokes on speculation about things that are already well known. In particular I would read where I noticed an email in the list from Scott Booth which he verified was indeed real:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10651942#msg10651942

Get real. There were at least 50,000 Emails in that dump last night. It would take someone a year just to write them, not even getting into all of the links and pictures and voicemails and then the DKIM signatures that are in them. If you are an idiot solipsist and just can't accept that truth can be known I think you are in the wrong thread.

P.S: This post is mainly meant for trixter and PC. PC is already on ignore, and now you are as well aptley named wall o text poster. See you never, forget to write! Buhbyes!
2118  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 09:52:08 PM
@ Suchmoon: So you are implying that a company that can't pay the light bill is not going to start handing out bushels of $20 bills to people? CRAZY TALK! Homero promised he would! Cheesy

P.S: Who is going to break the bad news to Darrel (CoinMan):

2119  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 09:40:13 PM
"Our Account(ant)" is in the hospital? WTF? Sounds like a "Dog ate my homework" BS excuse to me. About as creative, too. So, we are to believe this is a $100,000,000 operation and if the accountant is put out of action they can't pay their fucking bills for a month? LMAO! Suuuuuuure Buddy!

P.S: I don't see Ganza as a "gifted gabber", he simply has no qualms about lying directly to people. Those with a gift are able to avoid actually lying while spinning a web of deception- now THAT is a gift, but Homero is not in that league. He just brazenly lies and thus far most people he is dealing with are trusting/gullible.
2120  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: March 04, 2015, 09:22:52 PM
I traced (with my limited ability) one of the mystery 125k addresses back to here:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PQwnjVo41ZEyyDNCAYyd16HBaYiSRdwCWf.htm
That address is (was) one of the Prime Controllers?

That address was cleaned out    @ 2015-02-25 11:44:51 I suspect this is when the "hack" occurred, or perhaps when steps were taken to avert theft? Dunno, but something real odd is going on. After that the 125k bounces from new address to new address several times over the past few days.  The most interesting address is this one: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PDpkRQwQXXmiu24PzLfXLqMtFtAGj27ywH.htm Which was active for a couple weeks gaining a few thousand every day , building up to 100k+ and then was emptied out on the 25th (coinciding with the last big p&d and or the "hack"). Then two 125 k deposits on the 28th, and then quickly emptied again. Those 125k amounts have bounced to a new address every day and then move on, completely emptying the address.  I wish I knew more about this, hoping someone with more knowledge about these things will take a look and explain what they think is going on, but it sure looks fishy as hell to me.

Edit to add: This is where that 125k is sitting today: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PS8tY3fH1uZ1mJqK66R1dBQzMWzMeXZuk8.htm
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