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2141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BlackHalo Smart Contracting Client!!! Download now! Happy Independence day! on: July 05, 2014, 01:34:19 AM
i can't understand that amount of hate from bitcoiners...
on their reddit.
Not BC fault that BTC is so slow damm...

If you dont understand it you are not alone. There is a reason and im willing to bet it has nothing to do with the program itself. Their motives are not related to the innovate but most likely their motives are to prevent innovation.
2142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BlackHalo Smart Contracting Client!!! Download now! Happy Independence day! on: July 04, 2014, 11:53:10 PM
How improve block synchronization ?

I saw some funny things about that. Can you ask rat4? Its not a halo issue its a blackcoind/firewall/etc or maybe you have blackoin running in the backround.
2143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BlackHalo Smart Contracting Client!!! Download now! Happy Independence day! on: July 04, 2014, 11:51:33 PM
this is HUGE , can't wait for a prettier UI and nightrader  Smiley Smiley

hehe... working on it. NightTrader is a massive project that will always be added to. Already you have encrypted emails/gmail and bitmessage im totally rewriting. IRC bots already exist they are disabled they are more for having a fast trading floor. But hey, now you guys know, I said I was gonna do it and I did. Always try to keep my word. The UI needs to be consumer friend but I put features first. So next in line is templates and that should make it more user friendly we need people to do some demo videos of this baby in action!
2144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BlackHalo Smart Contracting Client!!! Download now! Happy Independence day! on: July 04, 2014, 03:21:48 PM
of course it does  Grin  ... download it and have fun making world cup bets or selling coins. Multisig wallet functions 2 step sending and joint accounts etc.
2145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BlackHalo Smart Contracting Client!!! Download now! Happy Independence day! on: July 04, 2014, 03:02:08 PM
Is source code available? I can't find it on the first two links, and the third 404s immediately.

Source too valuable as of right now. Will be released after a little while. 32 bit and linux download coming.
2146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / BlackHalo Smart Contracting Client!!! Download now! Happy Independence day! on: July 04, 2014, 12:50:53 PM
BLACKHALO BITHALO AND NIGHTTRADER WORLDS FIRST UNBREAKABLE SMART CONTRACTS LIVE AND RUNNING
www.BlackHalo.info www.NightTrader.org www.BitHalo.org

Currently running 64 bit windows 32 bit and linux building now...
100% Encrypted communication over blockchain/email channels there is 3 other communication protocols being added.

The site on BlackHalo says it best! World you are now free. HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!!! SURPISE! Never again will you have to deal with fear, uncertainty and doubt, bitcoin bans, no more Mt. Gox and now you can do any type of exchange including real world items with anyone in the world and they cannot break the deal. Under this platform is UNBREAKABLE REAL WORLD SMART CONTRACTS. This innovation is BEYOND Bitcoin. It has applications beyond crypto. This actually has limitless real world applications not because of the Smart Contracts already in the client but especially the TYPE of smart contract suggested... double deposit escrow.

So... with that said. Let me discuss the beginning of a new era of trade and economy and what this client in Blackcoin already allows.
Hello Cryptoland! This is David Zimbeck announcing Halo and NightTraders official thread! I want to thank you all for your patience in this exciting project. So... what is it? Halo clients build right into the coins. Smart contracts are perfect for BlackCoin with its blazing fast transaction speed and malleability patch and proof of stake 2.0 it is the perfect coin for this implementation(nobody wants to wait over an hour for escrow to fund and these escrows fund in minutes). It has also proven to be stable, secure and filled with exuberance. So what can BlackHalo do?

WE ARE CURRENTLY IN BETA TESTING SO PLEASE START SMALL
The Beta schedule will run a week or so and allow me to listen to any of the following
*Feature requests
*Bug Reports
*Company requests
*Python contract ideas
*Aggregate more developers/Angels/Team/etc

During Beta we will give frequent updates. So check this thread talk to community members and check my site and reddit. We will be transating the client to Chinese. The IRC automatic contracting bot is being disabled because we are still adding to it. Make sure you get a good Bitmessage connection. Anyone can participate in Beta and for assistance please use the irc floors in the client or Blackcoins reddit page at http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/. I'm sure there will lots of helpful people on there. Make some world cup bets sell some cash trade coins and have fun. You should set long duration's on your contracts for now(like a week). Technical note for cryptographers: for the moment expired contracts go to the base58 hash of "BlackcoinEaterAdios1" I will make it "6a" in the next update. I will be available for questions and advice occasionally on irc.

Templates are coming for the below deals to make them more user friendly... for now go ahead and let me know your opinions on feature requests.

THESE FEATURES ARE ALREADY ACTIVE AND WORKING(This is a short list of what can be done)

TRUSTLESS PEER TO PEER CASH
Worldwide cash exchanges for Bitcoin or BlackCoins using Direct Deposit, MoneyGram, Western Union, PayPal, Credit Cards, Gift Cards, or other preferred financial avenues are all possible within the BlackHalo client as well as the BitHalo client. The counter-party receiving the cash cannot break the deal. So if you live in Nigeria and they live in Brazil and you dont trust them... no problem! You can even trade cash with the beloved Mark Karpeles himself and know that your cash cannot be stolen because it is BACKED by a Halo contract. Be a guarantor! If you want to get somebody new into crypto, prove to them you have faith in them and set up an escrow where their deposit is small and yours is slightly higher than the amount. Once they send the cash release the funds. So you dont "need coins to buy cons"... want to reduce risk further with non-crypto person? Microtrade cash for coins.

Barter Bridges
This can allow for bartering on the platform. You can trade anything for anything, with full confidence that the transaction will go through. Trade sheep for cows or corn for wheat; either way you can assured that the transaction will be safe from ill-doing. Return to the barter system and back with a Halo contract!!

Derivatives and Betting
Using two contract, you and your counterparty can make a bet of any kind. Cancel the losing one, approve the winning one. WORLD CUP WAGER ANYONE? Want to short a coin? Now is your chance. Discuss on the "Other" trading floor in NightTrader.

Micro-Trading
With BlackHalo, micro-trading allows you and your counter-party to put up equal deposits with a very low purchase amount. This creates a bridge from which you would send a small percent of what you and your party have negotiated. You then repeat this exchange many times until the full amount is transferred. Using this method you can transfer potentially millions of dollars using a small deposit — and still eliminating the risk. You can even give out a loan with zero risk! Confidence building exercises!

Joint Accounts
Perfect for a business or a family; share your joint accounts with your business partners or your spouse while also adding an extra layer of security that your money is safe from malicious third-parties. If needed you can take this a step further and password protect your keys with an added layer of encryption. This new innovation resembles many of the day to day banking solutions that bank accounts already provide; but coupled with the brilliance of digital currency.

Hire an Employee & Make Deposits
The employee is expected to perform, and the employer is expected to pay. In this case, the time limit enforces deliverables upon the employee meanwhile significantly increasing productivity. This becomes an invaluable design for outsourcing, with a guarantee that everything will be completed on-time to secure payment. It also guarantees that employer will pay for the work as it is completed. A win-win situation for both parties.

Trading Pairs and NightTrader Decentralized Exchange
No more Mt. Gox, no more convoluted Ripple or NXT. Now your coins never have to leave your computer! Trade Dogecoins for Blackcoins and Bitcoins for Peercoins. The sky is the limit. THE RESERVE CONTRACT SHOULD BE IN BLACKCOIN

End Charge-Back's
Now you can open a ticket in advance with the public keys from you and your counter-party. Each party sends it individually. A plug-in for Paypal could be coded in a few lines of code. This validates the escrow. YOU CAN DO THIS MANUALLY FOR BETA. Open a ticket, with paypal AFTER sending the funds while under contract, dont confirm escrow until the party tells paypal that they are in an escrow and they give their account. Then you give your account. Then release escrow. International paypal! No chargebacks!

New Change Creation System
BlackHalo is more efficient than any other client because it looks for your “loose change” in your accounts, groups it together into one output, and pays it to you. Once you have too many pieces of loose change in your “penny jar” or once you have too many “$1 bills,” your address combines them to make a larger bill. This is exactly how cash works in the real world, and you can have all that power in your Blackcoin Wallet. Its a denomination system that is completely necessary to peform 100s of simultaneous contracts.

Negotiate Escrow Free Real Estate Deals
In real estate, escrows have been known to disappear with the money. No longer will this be possible. Now you and the counter party can decide how you will structure that trust.

Anonymous
Both BlackHalo and BitHalo create a platform for an anonymous decentralized exchange. For example, you can send Bitcoins in exchange for Blackcoins or Dogecoins in exchange for Darkcoins, etc. Once a contract is created in Blackcoin, anything can be traded under it. This is much more anonymous than Darkcoin’s “Coin-join” and even more anonymous than XC. Simply because the two chains are totally unrelated. This allows anonymous microtrading between two parties under the same contract.

Encrypted Blockchain Messaging
This already exists in the client. You can send contract requests to a Blackcoin address directly. However I am not adding colored coins or 100% contracting in blockchain until I finish my pruning system.

*Coming soon in 1.1
NightTraders templates and interface(currently its only encrypted email bitmessage and irc filters with trading floors)
Cold Staking
Joint Escrow 2 Step Spending
Python contracts
And a few more secret features

Currently I'm working alone so I dont want to be overwhelmed. However I want to give my honest thanks love and support to BlackCoin. You have some real heroes working in BlackCoin who have been nothing but supportive and helpful. So thank you for all the kind words support and help. If I do have a team I would consider the Blackcoin/Bitcoin enthusiasts part of my team and together we form (a sort of) Decentralized Autonomous Corporation. Special thanks to Rat4, Josh, Alec from Bitcoin42, McKie, Maarx, Adam, StuartGT, Patrick Doetsch and my friend "Shadowman" and my friend Sean. The list really should be longer I see so many awesome posters on Twitter and Reddit and I hope to know you all more personally. I have been busy so its hard to give out personal messages to everyone due to programming bottleneck.

There was a bounty for dev help to help me convert BitHalo to BlackHalo (I started in electrum and had to move to blackcoin). A few people sent me help although there was a coding barrier so I had to do most on my own. For those that helped (Rat4, Shadowjack, Stuart, Patrick) I am pretty sure I know how I am dividing it. Im not taking a penny for myself because the original post was strictly for devs! There should be some left over, since I unfortunately was not able to give out the source code so I will hold the remainder in float for paying more people. In the future we can use Halo contracts for dev work to guarantee devs get paid and work gets done. There is an option to donate in the client.

To everyone who is about to scramble and try to clone this:
"I would rather die an original than a copy"

On the other hand, Requests for coins to implement this to their coin can be sent to my gmail. Dogecoin is the one I'm considering next but I'm open. To companies who want to sell cash for coins using Halo contracts please contact me personally. I can probably get you directly into the client as a trusted vendor. Especially for those companies who wish to be "Guarantors". Any features bugs etc as discussed above I want you all to understand. Its been 4 months of coding in secrecy. Im exhausted!! I will try my best to fix bugs and implement more. However, I will upon request, give you guys instructions on how to handle (general) issues. The protocol is working and if you have an questions let me know I will try and get to you.

Email all requests/questions to NightTrader2014@gmail.com
2147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / BlackHalo Smart Contracting Client!!! Download now! Happy Independence day! on: July 04, 2014, 12:35:14 PM
BLACKHALO BITHALO AND NIGHTTRADER WORLDS FIRST UNBREAKABLE SMART CONTRACTS LIVE AND RUNNING
www.BlackHalo.info www.NightTrader.org www.BitHalo.org

64 Bit available 32 bit and linux on the way shortly...
Currently uses encrypted blockchain and 100% encrypted email 3 more protocols being added.

The site on BlackHalo says it best! World you are now free. HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!!! SURPRISE! Never again will you have to deal with fear, uncertainty and doubt, bitcoin bans, no more Mt. Gox and now you can do any type of exchange including real world items with anyone in the world and they cannot break the deal. Under this platform is UNBREAKABLE REAL WORLD SMART CONTRACTS. This innovation is BEYOND Bitcoin. It has applications beyond crypto. This actually has limitless real world applications not because of the Smart Contracts already in the client but especially the TYPE of smart contract suggested... double deposit escrow.

So... with that said. Let me discuss the beginning of a new era of trade and economy and what this client in Blackcoin already allows.
Hello Cryptoland! This is David Zimbeck announcing Halo and NightTraders official thread! I want to thank you all for your patience in this exciting project. So... what is it? Halo clients build right into the coins. Smart contracts are perfect for BlackCoin with its blazing fast transaction speed and malleability patch and proof of stake 2.0 it is the perfect coin for this implementation(nobody wants to wait over an hour for escrow to fund and these escrows fund in minutes). It has also proven to be stable, secure and filled with exuberance. So what can BlackHalo do?

WE ARE CURRENTLY IN BETA TESTING SO PLEASE START SMALL
The Beta schedule will run a week or so and allow me to listen to any of the following
*Feature requests
*Bug Reports
*Company requests
*Python contract ideas
*Aggregate more developers/Angels/Team/etc

During Beta we will give frequent updates. So check this thread talk to community members and check my site and Reddit. We will be translating the client to Chinese. The IRC automatic contracting bot is being disabled because we are still adding to it. Make sure you get a good Bitmessage connection. Anyone can participate in Beta and for assistance please use the irc floors in the client or Blackcoins reddit page at http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/. I'm sure there will lots of helpful people on there. Make some world cup bets sell some cash trade coins and have fun. You should set long duration's on your contracts for now(like a week). Technical note for cryptographers: for the moment expired contracts go to the base58 hash of "BlackcoinEaterAdios1" I will make it "6a" in the next update. I will be available for questions and advice occasionally on irc.

Templates are coming for the below deals to make them more user friendly... for now go ahead and let me know your opinions on feature requests.

THESE FEATURES ARE ALREADY ACTIVE AND WORKING(This is a short list of what can be done)

TRUSTLESS PEER TO PEER CASH
Worldwide cash exchanges for Bitcoin or BlackCoins using Direct Deposit, MoneyGram, Western Union, PayPal, Credit Cards, Gift Cards, or other preferred financial avenues are all possible within the BlackHalo client as well as the BitHalo client. The counter-party receiving the cash cannot break the deal. So if you live in Nigeria and they live in Brazil and you don't trust them... no problem! You can even trade cash with the beloved Mark Karpeles himself and know that your cash cannot be stolen because it is BACKED by a Halo contract. Be a guarantor! If you want to get somebody new into crypto, prove to them you have faith in them and set up an escrow where their deposit is small and yours is slightly higher than the amount. Once they send the cash release the funds. So you dont "need coins to buy cons"... want to reduce risk further with non-crypto person? Microtrade cash for coins.

Barter Bridges
This can allow for bartering on the platform. You can trade anything for anything, with full confidence that the transaction will go through. Trade sheep for cows or corn for wheat; either way you can assured that the transaction will be safe from ill-doing. Return to the barter system and back with a Halo contract!!

Derivatives and Betting
Using two contract, you and your counter-party can make a bet of any kind. Cancel the losing one, approve the winning one. WORLD CUP WAGER ANYONE? Want to short a coin? Now is your chance. Discuss on the "Other" trading floor in NightTrader.

Micro-Trading
With BlackHalo, micro-trading allows you and your counter-party to put up equal deposits with a very low purchase amount. This creates a bridge from which you would send a small percent of what you and your party have negotiated. You then repeat this exchange many times until the full amount is transferred. Using this method you can transfer potentially millions of dollars using a small deposit — and still eliminating the risk. You can even give out a loan with zero risk! Confidence building exercises!

Joint Accounts
Perfect for a business or a family; share your joint accounts with your business partners or your spouse while also adding an extra layer of security that your money is safe from malicious third-parties. If needed you can take this a step further and password protect your keys with an added layer of encryption. This new innovation resembles many of the day to day banking solutions that bank accounts already provide; but coupled with the brilliance of digital currency.

Hire an Employee & Make Deposits
The employee is expected to perform, and the employer is expected to pay. In this case, the time limit enforces deliverables upon the employee meanwhile significantly increasing productivity. This becomes an invaluable design for outsourcing, with a guarantee that everything will be completed on-time to secure payment. It also guarantees that employer will pay for the work as it is completed. A win-win situation for both parties.

Trading Pairs and NightTrader Decentralized Exchange
No more Mt. Gox, no more convoluted Ripple or NXT. Now your coins never have to leave your computer! Trade Dogecoins for Blackcoins and Bitcoins for Peercoins. The sky is the limit. THE RESERVE CONTRACT SHOULD BE IN BLACKCOIN

End Charge-Back's
Now you can open a ticket in advance with the public keys from you and your counter-party. Each party sends it individually. A plug-in for Paypal could be coded in a few lines of code. This validates the escrow. YOU CAN DO THIS MANUALLY FOR BETA. Open a ticket, with paypal AFTER sending the funds while under contract, dont confirm escrow until the party tells paypal that they are in an escrow and they give their account. Then you give your account. Then release escrow. International paypal! No chargebacks!

New Change Creation System
BlackHalo is more efficient than any other client because it looks for your “loose change” in your accounts, groups it together into one output, and pays it to you. Once you have too many pieces of loose change in your “penny jar” or once you have too many “$1 bills,” your address combines them to make a larger bill. This is exactly how cash works in the real world, and you can have all that power in your Blackcoin Wallet. Its a denomination system that is completely necessary to perform 100s of simultaneous contracts.

Negotiate Escrow Free Real Estate Deals
In real estate, escrows have been known to disappear with the money. No longer will this be possible. Now you and the counter party can decide how you will structure that trust.

Anonymous
Both BlackHalo and BitHalo create a platform for an anonymous decentralized exchange. For example, you can send Bitcoins in exchange for Blackcoins or Dogecoins in exchange for Darkcoins, etc. Once a contract is created in Blackcoin, anything can be traded under it. This is much more anonymous than Darkcoin’s “Coin-join” and even more anonymous than XC. Simply because the two chains are totally unrelated. This allows anonymous micro-trading between two parties under the same contract.

Encrypted Blockchain Messaging
This already exists in the client. You can send contract requests to a Blackcoin address directly. However I am not adding colored coins or 100% contracting in blockchain until I finish my pruning system.

*Coming soon in 1.1
NightTraders templates and interface(currently its only encrypted email, bitmessage and irc filters with trading floors)
Cold Staking
Joint Escrow 2 Step Spending
Python contracts
And a few more secret features

Currently I'm working alone so I dont want to be overwhelmed. However I want to give my honest thanks love and support to BlackCoin. You have some real heroes working in BlackCoin who have been nothing but supportive and helpful. So thank you for all the kind words support and help. If I do have a team I would consider the Blackcoin/Bitcoin enthusiasts part of my team and together we form (a sort of) Decentralized Autonomous Corporation. Special thanks to Rat4, Josh, Alec from Bitcoin42, McKie, Maarx, Adam, StuartGT, Patrick Doetsch and my friend Shadowjack and my friend Sean. The list really should be longer I see so many awesome posters on Twitter and Reddit and I hope to know you all more personally. I have been busy so its hard to give out personal messages to everyone due to programming bottleneck.

There was a bounty for dev help to help me convert BitHalo to BlackHalo (I started in electrum and had to move to blackcoin). A few people sent me help although there was a coding barrier so I had to do most on my own. For those that helped (Rat4, Shadowjack, Stuart, Patrick) I am pretty sure I know how I am dividing it. Im not taking a penny for myself because the original post was strictly for devs! There should be some left over, since I unfortunately was not able to give out the source code so I will hold the remainder in float for paying more people. In the future we can use Halo contracts for dev work to guarantee devs get paid and work gets done. There is an option to donate in the client.

To everyone who is about to scramble and try to clone this:
"I would rather die an original than a copy"

On the other hand, Requests for coins to implement this to their coin can be sent to my gmail. Dogecoin is the one I'm considering next but I'm open. To companies who want to sell cash for coins using Halo contracts please contact me personally. I can probably get you directly into the client as a trusted vendor. Especially for those companies who wish to be "Guarantors". Any features bugs etc as discussed above I want you all to understand. Its been 4 months of coding in secrecy. Im exhausted!! I will try my best to fix bugs and implement more. However, I will upon request, give you guys instructions on how to handle (general) issues. Your coins are always safe the protocol is perfect so dont worry if you have an issue let me know I will try and get to you.

Email all requests/questions to NightTrader2014@gmail.com or HaloHelpTeam@gmail.com
2148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 28, 2014, 08:22:59 AM
I never was notified about my stake. Except second hand that is. How do I claim it. I dont use bitcointalk much can you send me a pm on how to claim it?
2149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FER] FERENGICOIN - NOW ON 2 EXCHANGES on: June 04, 2014, 12:01:23 AM
Step 1: Create coin
Step 2:
Step 3: PROFIT!
2150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 27, 2014, 01:17:36 PM
at least Dogecoin and kittehcoin didnt pretend to be something they arent. If this was the real goal of the project why not support gridcoin by actively offering your hand to develop for them? After all they tried the same thing.
2151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 27, 2014, 01:16:15 PM
not sure whats worse... another crapcoin or a coin that exploits naive consumers for the profit of the dev/miners. Also im fairly certain the cure for cancer is being purposefully withheld from the public. (or maybe i need to adjust the frequency on my tinfoil hat  Roll Eyes)
2152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite Launch June 1st! on: May 26, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
Update from BitHalo, BlackHalo, NightTrader:

Ok just coming in to make a post I dont check this thread too much but want to let you all know where I'm at. Talking to a fellow named StuartGT and he is interested in making my life easier by creating a python wrapper for Blackcoin so I can make changes to BlackHalo and port BitHalo over to BlackHalo. This is definitely a great thing. I was using electrum but I will need to eventually have the option for users to use the blockchain instead. So if we pull this off somebody needs to buy him a beer. Instead of full source(for now) we can just work on critical functions. Lots of little things need to be done
to make this port. BitHalo on the other hand is coming along amazingly and hopefully I can meet the deadline by the end of this month I hope to have BitHalo ready for public testing. Will let you all know tomorrow with another update. So now we have rat4 looking at the code and I have somebody to help me on my end too.
2153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 25, 2014, 09:51:58 AM
print "Goodnight world"
2154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 25, 2014, 09:50:37 AM
print "Hello world"
if peoplewhoshortbcprobablydontreadredditorbitcointalk == true:
    print "lol"
2155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LIBERTYCOIN][XLB] X11 | 100% POS | No IPO | No Premine | Now on Mintpal on: May 18, 2014, 09:46:26 PM
A coin that was released 10 days ago.

I am not obsessed. I urge you to stop picking up on nitty gritties and word plays. You very well know what I mean. You should ask the same questions as I am asking (unless ofcourse you are a shill account of the man himself). Can you deny the controversy, the politics, the drama that have been associated with Iconic and resulted the death of blackcoin? What guarantees a repeat will not occur?

Given his nature, He is obviously not going to engage with me or anybody else and assure the community that he won't make this another power struggle of his. We are on slippery slope here. Also he is launching his own coin in a few weeks. Will he dump XLB once he needs to rally his troops for his own coin?


Or are you guys going to follow him wherever he goes like a pied piper? Who's going to answer these questions?



blackcoin ist dead lol its just that people keep buying crapclones


Zimbeck, my fight is not with you. I respect you and urge you to not participate here since you will not be able to contribute like the way you contribute to BC, and actually bring bad reputation to BC.

I think Libertycoin has a future. I really do. But I am also worried that Iconic and his gang will have a very adverse effect on this coin. They will desert us soon when the power struggles are over.

OK thank you. You are correct I really could not help myself it was too tempting to resist the urge comment here hahaha. Ok take care fellas. Try not to fight too much.  Wink
2156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LIBERTYCOIN][XLB] X11 | 100% POS | No IPO | No Premine | Now on Mintpal on: May 18, 2014, 09:03:37 PM
A coin that was released 10 days ago.

I am not obsessed. I urge you to stop picking up on nitty gritties and word plays. You very well know what I mean. You should ask the same questions as I am asking (unless ofcourse you are a shill account of the man himself). Can you deny the controversy, the politics, the drama that have been associated with Iconic and resulted the death of blackcoin? What guarantees a repeat will not occur?

Given his nature, He is obviously not going to engage with me or anybody else and assure the community that he won't make this another power struggle of his. We are on slippery slope here. Also he is launching his own coin in a few weeks. Will he dump XLB once he needs to rally his troops for his own coin?


Or are you guys going to follow him wherever he goes like a pied piper? Who's going to answer these questions?



blackcoin ist dead lol its just that people keep buying crapclones
2157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LIBERTYCOIN][XLB] X11 | 100% POS | No IPO | No Premine | Now on Mintpal on: May 18, 2014, 08:25:34 PM
What the fuck makes this pump+dump original?Huh? This was a shameless copy of DRM which was a BC clone and then was just pumped. Mintpal should be ashamed of themselves for adding a blatant pump+dump coin. Hey everyone im starting a coin called Wishcoin that grants wishes. Do you believe me?? Ok great im going to pump it now. And even more stupid is Iconic expert and Troiste are involved. People with no skills other than trolling. They betray BC community and you dont think they arent sitting on 50% of Libertycoin? Who do you think is pumping this? Do people actually realize that libertycoins are an actualy thing which are physical coins made from precious metals? So of course this will never even come up in a google search lol. Total crap.


When will people stop buying copies of BC? You are rewarding people with no actual developement ability and no other ability than to just take your hard earned money. ANYONE WHO BUYS THIS COIN DESERVES TO LOSE THEIR MONEY.

Iconic expert: "Invest in Traitorcoin! Im pumping it!"
You: "Good idea!"
Iconic expert on twitter: "OMG Totally dumping My 10 Million Traitorcoins"
You: "Omg it was a pump+dump? Why did I ever buy this?"
2158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 16, 2014, 07:03:09 PM
.....
The distribution has worsened during the downtrend. I think last month the top 100 wallets held about 50% while up to yesterday (before the 1.5 million coin dump) they held about 60%. Kinda like during a recession - the rich get richer since they have the disposable resources to take advantage of underpriced assets during a downtrend.
Someone have to defend coin BTW that is why rich are richer and poor are poor...
Never sell in panic you wont loose 1BC is still 1BC

yes this is a very beautiful and true point. Now if the sheep could just learn to read i think we would be in business. Grin
2159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 16, 2014, 07:00:05 PM
The price is being purposefully tanked. A thread was created with proof of this somebody clearly fears BC or is desperately trying to cause a crash (immediate sells after buys down into order book for the past 2 weeks, throttled price, sell walls 20% lower than the price several times in a row etc)

Whatever the goal is, the person is losing a great deal of money doing it. It would be in the tens of thousands by now. I'm not sure I believe someone would spend that much out of fear.

For all we know, it could be an extremely large, ruthless investor preparing to pump the coin hard. It fits the pattern perfectly anyway - in that scenario, the same person pushing the price down would be eating the panic on the other side of the book. Then at some point, the manipulation disappears, the person pumps the coin and laughs all the way to the bank with all the unnaturally cheap coins he picked up.

Not saying 'pump inc!!' or anything like that, but it is definitely a possible explanation.

haha yeah I agree. But it can also be a jealous millionaire. Maybe they hold 1000000 litecoins or 100000 bitcoins. They may desperately fear multipools. Maybe they think BC is threatening Bitcoin and that Bitcoin is "good for humanity". Of course they would be mistaken. Its crypto thats good and Bitcoin was only the opening act. Its hard to tell. There are people who spend 3K on dinner in 5 star restaurants. People who buy a new rolls royce because theirs has a dent in it. There are people who hate to see others succeed. Maybe they think a pump would just be a plus. Despite all this, I knew something was really weird was going on. The pools hashrate dropped when it should have risen, clones were able to cause some annoyances(which never happened to ltc) and people just disappeared. More importantly every chance the coin had to go up was not even allowed. There has not been a single day for two weeks that we have risen and that is completely un-natural. I think they are sacrificing tens of thousands of dollars to break BC. The only two suggestions are jealousy or greed. I have heard lots of people say one or the other. But literally nobody saw it as natural especially if they looked at the 24 hour charts. Or just look at the weekly chart. This was going on for a long time unnoticed. So the sacrifice may have been 100K usd to crash BC at least. I just hope they were not able to acquire more coins in the process. This is why I am trying like hell to get that pool an incentive or affiliates program. I know black shield is a brilliant defense to this as well. The sooner these things come the better.
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Just about to buy 5000 more BlackCoin once my BTC hits MintPal

good and dont ever sell them. especially not to these idiots who think  they can crash the coins. Coins need to be taken from them like the same way you take a toy from a spoiled child. Its obviously crashing because people are very jealous of BC. Wait until they see the next pump. BC will fly away.
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