So time for another 3btc did it filled it:)
haha thanks for the support. The bulls shall unite! yeah bulls unite:) David i know it's hard to give an ETA in software dev, but do you have something in your mind for an ETA like days, weeks or months, after the rebrand we got alot of work to do i can support the marketplace by selling stuff with my company I'm going to try to get something within a month. Of course things do take time and I don't want to rush it either so just please be patient. No worries, if you need something (besides a superdev), please give a scream or you want to (beta) test the wallet we can help you out. Dont forget hard work always pays off Thanks for the positivity, its very helpful and motivates me to work. By the way not sure if I mentioned this earlier but I DID find a way to test out pegging in Python before forking. It was a really good realization. I realized, I can add the rules needed to peg on the client side directly in the Halo wallet! Granted, only people running the client would follow the rules, but the transaction scripts would be essentially the same as they would when they become hard coded mining rules. This saves me the trouble of building in c++. Then when I finish and prove the concept, my merge into c++ should be much more trivial. I will think of some ways people can help. Trello was my first attempt. I think it would be good to have a project manager for the bounties and somebody to help manage. |
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Making claims without substantiation is what Bitbay has been about so far. If you own close to 100 mil coins, provide your wallet address and move coins afterwards to prove it.
Actuallly thats not totally true. I supplied all my wallet addresses(even non-bay addresses. Thats more transparent than anything any dev has done before me. |
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I'm already ahead of the curve in getting retribution for the Initial Coin Offering investors. I've had some lengthy conversations with multiple national lawyers who specialize in Cyber Security and Fraud. Currently we are choosing the best source for representation to determine the best path for quick prosecution. So far it seems best to focus on those holding U.S. passports and Bter exchange as a fraudulent website. If anything, we can make it impossible for these guys to enter the USA again without answering to authorities.
I encourage those who have been affected to send me a PM with your testimony. It's easier to reference when talking about the case.
I also encourage those involved in the Initial Coin Offering itself to drop me a line. Cooperation makes things easier on all parties.
I'm not asking for any money and I will personally be funding the initial resources and filings.
Ok "Diabolic"... I mean Ryan/Bob lol. I remember your fake profile from the unmoderated thread. Yea that's a real good sign for you i guess Zimbeck that your former compadres are now rolling over and working with the feds? In US jurisdiction? State of Florida ring any bells? I'm not from Florida either lol nice DOX fail. lol Thats like blaming the janitor who cleans up your mess. lol You Bob and Steve were the ones who contracted me. And I'm working. Unlike you and Bob who took off running with Bitcoins. I'm sure the "feds" would be so sympathetic to your lame story... lmao.  |
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So time for another 3btc did it filled it:)
haha thanks for the support. The bulls shall unite! yeah bulls unite:) David i know it's hard to give an ETA in software dev, but do you have something in your mind for an ETA like days, weeks or months, after the rebrand we got alot of work to do i can support the marketplace by selling stuff with my company I'm going to try to get something within a month. Of course things do take time and I don't want to rush it either so just please be patient. |
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I'm already ahead of the curve in getting retribution for the Initial Coin Offering investors. I've had some lengthy conversations with multiple national lawyers who specialize in Cyber Security and Fraud. Currently we are choosing the best source for representation to determine the best path for quick prosecution. So far it seems best to focus on those holding U.S. passports and Bter exchange as a fraudulent website. If anything, we can make it impossible for these guys to enter the USA again without answering to authorities.
I encourage those who have been affected to send me a PM with your testimony. It's easier to reference when talking about the case.
I also encourage those involved in the Initial Coin Offering itself to drop me a line. Cooperation makes things easier on all parties.
I'm not asking for any money and I will personally be funding the initial resources and filings.
Ok "Diabolic"... I mean Ryan/Bob lol. I remember your fake profile from the unmoderated thread. |
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How did they steal it though? If some folks made a run for it then you can follow this path.
For Bitbay the scammers seemed to be on the inside of the deal all along.
Google "syscoin moolah 750" Hmmm thats interesting. We should do the same for Robert Duskes. |
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So time for another 3btc did it filled it:)
haha thanks for the support. The bulls shall unite! |
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Hello guys, i hope you all have had super holidays so far  Managed to pick up some more cheap coins which i can only be thankful for, Thank you dumper i appreciate the Christmas gift. David and BitbayDev well done sticking around you have showed you mean business and stood your ground for yourself plus investors "Big thumbs up" and i am rooting for ya. I see same guys who was in from the start so a well done to you to i feel. Anyway i am back and will be showing my face as much as possible, Take care and let's have a fab New year! Thank you buddy. I definitely want to come through and deliver software as promised. When I get hired to do work, I do it. I'm happy Steve is here to support the project too. It was a risk going into it that others may drop out, but its like removing a a few weeds and we are much better off now. And now we can rebrand, wash away the old and make a good coin. I appreciate all of your support and have a wonderful new years.  |
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I don't know how you have planned to organize this, but the only thing I get to see is this: Board not found.
This board may be private. If someone gave you this link, they may need to invite you to one of their boards or organizations. Yeah perhaps Steve didn't realize if you want access to the board you need an invite... I can see if making it public changes anything otherwise please just send me your Trello name and I can invite you. |
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Anyways, I hope everyone had a merry xmas, an update is on the way.
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Yeah I don't think that making people encrypt their IP address is the same as "walking single file into a grave" or "shitting on the constitution". If you really think that then you better stop using bitcointalk... omg they have your IP address.... so crazy right? Oh and you should just stop using clearnet too. Because everyone has your IP address. lmao... someone clearly doesnt understand how the internet works. Oh and by the way, Tor is comprimised and so is Bitcoin. You can analyze exit nodes and by controlling enough nodes you can get everyones IP address anyways(why do people keep ignoring this obvious security flaw). Although IP addresses on Tor are only taken for busting the bigger sites. Besides if you really want freedom, be part of a mesh network! Its still free markets. It just means people will not be hiring killers. (what kind of hypocritical pussy hires a contractor anyways?! Thats no different than crying to your govt having someone else handle your problems) What it will do is open decentralized markets to a wider audience. Duh! Its not possible for me to prevent people from forking the software either. Its still decentralized market but I'm not making silk road. Anyone who thinks I should be making that clearly wants me to take the bullet for them. And if I did that, I would not be able to reach a bigger audience, and it would make it impossible for me to pursue other dreams. I'm all for freedom. Decentralized servers IS free. They can't be shut down. Thats the point. Thats the reason I started Halo in the first place (to free people using double escrow) and its probably the reason I was just a target of sabotage. If I was meant to learn any lesson from that its pretty damn obvious what that lesson was. And besides, there is so many services on Tor but what about services for larger audiences?! Also, I encrypt ingoing and outgoing messages so its already really secure the only party who knows about your business is the counterparty and thats about as anon as you can get. And how naive is it to order contraband and then supply the counterparty with your personal mailing address... lmao. Thats really "anon" man. And how can you have decentralized servers if there is no way to make your server show the content you want? If I'm selling BTC for DRK last thing I want to see is my listing sitting next to a post for crack/cocaine. lmao  |
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Who's selling? Is Bob still unloading? Thought he had sold it all!!?
The volume is really low. Almost 1 BTC per day. Volume precedes price. I wouldn't worry about any of that right now. Lets just wait until the development ends and we have a marketable product. Also Bitcoin has been really bearish. Merry Christmas by the way. |
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Who is "Bitcoin 42" (bitcoin42.com) and why are they claiming to be using bithalo, blackhalo and nighttrader technology? Are they really? Apparently they mainly sell bitcoin ATMs.
"Ordered Exchange
You can also buy and sell coins on order. With double deposit escrow smart contracts, utilizing the power of Blackhalo.info, self insuring trade and more can be achieved now!"
Bitcoin42 is actually a close friend of mine from Germany. He definitely uses the tech. He also designed my websites for free a long time ago because he is a big fan of the project. So yeah, hes a cool guy. He also runs ATMs. |
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His point is that Blackcoin has all those features as well, except for pegging.
HOWEVER
Bitbay's wallet has a much better UI than the current Blackhalo client. The smart contract setup is more straight forward and has more functions.
Blackhalo will eventually get this as well but the fact remains that Bitbay already had this for month.
If that ICO wasn't such a fucking scam then this coin would have a horde of excited people messing around with smart contracts, something which NO other coin currently has, not even Blackcoin.
Agreed it sucks but will try to work out the kinks from here. By the way, did you see the BlackHalo UI? Its awesome. The reason I didnt release that one yet was because I'm making it a big release. Also, when I fork Bitbay with checklocktimeverify the contracts will be much faster than BC. But BC has NightTrader. Although NT release was delayed to hit the markets in Halo (don't forget BC and BTC also get markets) So there are tradeoffs. |
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Hey guys I see the feedback. I wanted to clarify. Im only giving an option for anyone with a moderator key (not just myself) to be able to remove heavy drugs and contract killers. For something that is illegal in some countries and legal in others, we can let it slide. Perhaps "weed" is OK as long as its legal where its being sold and sent. So I mean its not necessary for me to be babysit it. It just gives me the option to protect my ass if i have to.
Also, its still decentralized because if I stop moderating it, then who will moderate it? I will give out the mod key to a few friends that I trust. I believe in free markets. Actually I am a cryptoanarchist. But that doesnt mean i shouldnt consider what just happened(I got sabotaged) and think "Ok, lets not let that happen again"
So yeah, its decentralized. People should be excited that finally there is a decentralized exchange and barter and employment and all the things crypto is missing. If they want drugs im sure they will reverse engineer it or go to Tor/Onion network.
And the answer to the question about spoofing IP addresses. Not only will a ban force them to use a new one but also will ban the BitBay account and Bitmessage account used with it. So they would have to make everything new again.
There isnt really a way to prevent anything on a decentralized market but it helps. Also, later i can add a second layer of trust building and whitelists if needed.
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Thank you! Its not often you get to see theories expressed in articles. Also, your writing is very succinct and easy to follow. Thanks for the support and keep up the good work! |
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I understand the point about Tor, but its tricky to route a coin daemon through Tor and you can still ban the wallet associated, the ip on Tor, the bitmessage address.
So I also realize how you can imply its centralized but actually its not. Because if no mods are online then there is no control. Moderators are needed in some way. Like if we do flagging then people could make bots to flag other peoples deals. So maybe better to start this way and after a strong trust building is done give out the moderator key to more users.
Regardless, OpenBazaar will get in serious trouble if they get big. I'm only somewhat big and people are already are trying to sabotage me.
On a side note, its funny you guys mention defamation. There is that, extortion, and threats, invasion of privacy, cyberbullying, brand damage etc. There are a lot of charges i could bring. However, its a matter of time. I'm sure there is a statue of limitations so im not forced to pursue it right now. I can just code and meet my immediate short term goals without distracting myself.
Like here in Cambodia, they paid millions to get Gottfrid sent to Europe so they could harm him. But he didnt actually do anything wrong. He just ran the pirate bay.
So that should be an example especially considering my predecessors.
Also, moderation is actually good too because if you were trying to trade DOGE for BTC on the market you wouldnt want that offer sitting right next to some drug listing.
Additionally its hard to employ programmers in the market if its sitting next to a hitman lol. So really it is needed. Having the users moderate themselves is ideal but not fool proof.
Its still decentralized actually. It just gives Halo a way to make sure people post what is asked for on the markets.
As for filtering words I though of that. But there are words that cross over. Like people can mispell words too like k1ller or w33d or crack can also mean fixing a crack etc.
That is why I have templates. The templates allow me to filter and predict what most people will be buying or selling. Of course some custom offers will exist but it wont be the majority.
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The only problem here is that it is trivial to spoof IP addresses so I'm not sure how it will really deter anyone who actually wants to sell illegal goods.
Yeah but at least it is a start. Anyways, I'm thinking to combine it with a kill switch and have a server database and a way to send messages from moderator account and flagging(perhaps users can flag if there is not moderator and we can set a hard limit on the number of flags). So on "bans" for example we can use several methods for identification. First, the accounts are multisig. I can use one of the public keys. Furthermore use the bitmessage address. So if they spoof, they would have to constantly change their bitmessage address and wallet and spoof a new ip over and over again. And they would have to actually have some funds to go to market. Since the wallet doesnt route through Tor either it would be tricky to spam this without an api. issie81, dont worry the soccer mom wont need to look up her ip. I can get that without her filling it in. |
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Hey guys, I wanted to hop in here and thank you for your support. I'm honored that you guys take an interest in smart contracts tech and are able to stand your ground with me.
With that said I had a question. Its a controversial idea but I'm actually liking it.
So here is the question. My original flow chart for markets I was going to get people into a whitelist by channeling their traffic through my server so we could grant access to decentralized markets based on good behavior.
But this model means that it still relies on a centralized server. It means babysitting it and doesnt actually show to be a scalable model for other businesses.
In fact, the only advantage I could see was speed. So, I'm wondering why add that layer first. Best to go straight to the decentralized layer, hit my milestone faster and find another method of moderating drugs/contraband that is more powerful. Trust building and ratings can still be added of course.
You see guys, I learned from this project that I clearly have people who dont want me to succeed(this also means I'm doing something right). The entire project was created by some agenda/etc to sabotage destructive tech IMHO.
All things considered, this means a decentralized market (if done incorrectly) gives them more ammunition to attack if there isnt a great moderation layer. I've got to protect my ass and also deliver a wonderful product. But the server layer seems like I'm heading east when I want to go west.
SO, my controversial idea was, to simply require that users put their IP address inside the order that goes to market. it can be encrypted so only Halo can see it. But what it does is gives me a log of all the IPs to deter people from posting illegal contraband. This isnt any different from how a website would work. When you log into a site, send an email, do anything on the internet your IP is revealed. So my question is, if it really is going to be legal things we are selling... why hide it? The biggest advantage of decentralized markets is there is no central server, its decentralized. So anyone in the world gets "free hosting" in a way. If the world ended the markets would still work. Additionally, I can make it so my server can in real time flag illegal orders in addition to being able to flag them in a decentralized way.
I can still build whitelists on top of that later to increase speed but im not sure its required to demo the markets. Also, having a decentralized kill switch and a system where users can flag orders is still highly attractive to me.
This was my recent thoughts. I really want to open up markets to the real world and give them a reason to think crypto isnt just a bunch of scams and criminals. (ironic considering how things started off on a bad foot but its nothing we cant bounce back from the brand is strong and if we get our two major features we can certainly be a contender)
Please let me know your thoughts on these ideas. I'm starting the coding now for a big Halo release(with pay to email) and these markets and felt some positive feedback and constructive criticism/brainstorming was in order.
Thanks for the big post, it is exactly what you are saying that if you want to sell legal stuff why hide yourself? IMO we should proceed like this since all the crooks will be scared to go flahing their IP around. And the outside world does need to see something positive about crypto's for a change. Thank you, im really glad you like the idea. If I do it this way, there is simply no way the govt can say im not complying. Its still anonymous because i wouldn't be able to give out their IP addresses unless the content is in fact illegal. And you know this way, I can let orders go straight to the market without really worrying about watching it 24/7 but we could still remove orders if they are in fact illegal or in the wrong category. It also allows for "ip banning" for spammers and fake profiles. And I think we all know the dangers of fake profiles  |
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100 wallets own 98.8% of Bitbay, is that a bad thing or a good thing? Kinda scary that we only have 100 people backing bitbay
Without a doubt its an issue. Not ideal at all. There are some pros. For example, if we peg it, more coins will be kept off the market making it even more scarce. If a buy wall is needed it may be lower. Then with adequate volume, it can distribute for people who want to hedge against another coin. |
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