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1861  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 04:09:25 AM
All i really wanted to do was my damn JOB.

I constantly patronized Bob and Gekko with the shred of hope that they would NOT destroy the project. But they paid a FUD team to cover up Bobs 500 BTC theft.
1862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 04:08:14 AM
LOL

So Bob has been deleting my posts from here because Bob and Gecko was running the show all the time? This is fucking hilarious, respect Bob, I underestimated you :-))))

TOLD YOU SO. I DIDNT DO ANYTHING. Ive had to sit here and watch this betrayal go down and im more than happy to refund the remaining BTC I have and the BAY I dont give a shit about the money.
1863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 04:06:17 AM

Im sorry man, im not a trader. I never sell my Blackcoins, im never on the exchanges. I dont go on Bitcointalk. Really, i work hard as hell.

No you just took BTC for this because you where in debt up to your ass along with you mother. You sold out blackcoin's blackhalo to the devil and then decided to fuck the devil too. Well it doesn't go like that and now he is smearing all this shit that you where tits deep into with. Not a trader indeed. Just plain fucked up and tried to fuck back and it blew up in your face.


I didnt sell it they wanted to clone it get your facts straigth. I didnt know who he was.
1864  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 03:51:23 AM
Just so you know Gekko not only threatened me over the phone in some absolutely sinister ways but in almost every conversation we had. Their threats were relentless, violent and non stop. He is almost worse than Bob these guys were getting on my very last nerve. They paid for a stupid FUD campaign when they should have been WORKING.
how the fuck did you work with these psychos, those chats are fucking insane? i hope you and steven and lin try to fix what they shit on if it can even be mended at this point.. all i can say is wow, i couldn't imagine dealing with people like that

The answer: GREED.

And it looks like greed got the best of all parties involved...

Not me, i was offered the fee up front by steven before it all started. I was also being asked to do a lot of work and give up a critical position for Halo.

They claimed that the funds were going to be combined. BUT in reality they wanted to POCKET their 191 BTC as if they deserved it some fucking how for nothing. And they didnt want to give back. Instead, Gekko fakes a 20K bill and Bob threatens Steven when he thinks its unfair Steven and Lin bought me coins.

David, dd you not know who Bobsurplus is before you got involved with this coin? I dont know why anyone would have expected a different outcome than this, if you partner with Bobsurplus in making a coin.


EDIT: I see you say you didnt know who he was.

It's impossible to not know who bobsurplus was.  Anyone who has been around knows that the guy is a scam artist P&D'r

Im sorry man, im not a trader. I never sell my Blackcoins, im never on the exchanges. I dont go on Bitcointalk. Really, i work hard as hell.
1865  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 03:50:20 AM
Just so you know Gekko not only threatened me over the phone in some absolutely sinister ways but in almost every conversation we had. Their threats were relentless, violent and non stop. He is almost worse than Bob these guys were getting on my very last nerve. They paid for a stupid FUD campaign when they should have been WORKING.
how the fuck did you work with these psychos, those chats are fucking insane? i hope you and steven and lin try to fix what they shit on if it can even be mended at this point.. all i can say is wow, i couldn't imagine dealing with people like that

The answer: GREED.

And it looks like greed got the best of all parties involved...

Not me, i was offered the fee up front by steven before it all started. I was also being asked to do a lot of work and give up a critical position for Halo.

They claimed that the funds were going to be combined. BUT in reality they wanted to POCKET their 191 BTC as if they deserved it some fucking how for nothing. And they didnt want to give back. Instead, Gekko fakes a 20K bill and Bob threatens Steven when he thinks its unfair Steven and Lin bought me coins.

David, dd you not know who Bobsurplus is before you got involved with this coin? I dont know why anyone would have expected a different outcome than this, if you partner with Bobsurplus in making a coin.


EDIT: I see you say you didnt know who he was.

Buddy, I knew who STEVEN was. A really nice guy named Raul contacted me via email and said he will give me 100BTC and 10% of Bitbay which he will buy up with his own BTC. I didnt care for the Bay so much but the BTC I felt would help push my developement.

And its not my fault that this space is so incestuous that i had to run Halo out of pocket for a YEAR.
1866  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 03:47:50 AM
"qawzsx"  
I hope you remember our kind discussion about Zimbeck and whether he should have known who he was working for. I assume you regret every single word now. This story now demonstrates how stupid you must be in order to defend his position all the time. He did a huge mistake and I expected something like this to happen. Of course, I couldn't know it would end like this. But Bobsurplus is one of those guys who has crossed a lot of lines in the past and I am wondering how Zimbeck can say that he found out about Bob and his attitudes just recently... But whatever, Zimbeck still seems to be one of the better guys. Cooperating with Bob was just fucking stupid because Bob has a shitty reputation (if any) and Zimbeck could only harm himself and not gain anything from working together with someone who might be put in jail one day.

Best regards


That is a FACT. I'm sorry i didnt know who these scumbags where. I tried my best to protect the project. Its true they did split the money but i couldnt understand why they would just run and pocket it without contributing to developement.

And they wanted "screenshots of Halo" do they realize im building the software that i busted my god damn ass to make???

These guys have the nerve to call me unreliable? And threaten me???
1867  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 03:44:56 AM
So Bobsurplus created this coin to get 2000 btc ICO?? (He put in 1000btc of his own)

Damn.

RIP BAY 'investors'. You guys got ripped off.

David Zimbeck... I don't know what the hell you expected by getting in bed with Bobsurplus' group. What did you think would happen?Huh

Bter owner involved in this coin as well?


Damn.

Bobsurplus please leave crypto . You are a cancer to crypto.

I DIDNT KNOW WHO HE WAS. AND I WAS HIRED BY STEVEN. NOT BOB.

Bob just drifted in with his friend to take BTC from the project. They lied and said they would help contribute their share towards the developement.


I almost smashed my hand through the wall when i saw the size of the dev fund.

They had the nerve to send a 20K coin build bill. WITHOUT ASKING FOR APPROVAL. Wait until you see this.
1868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 03:42:15 AM
Just so you know Gekko not only threatened me over the phone in some absolutely sinister ways but in almost every conversation we had. Their threats were relentless, violent and non stop. He is almost worse than Bob these guys were getting on my very last nerve. They paid for a stupid FUD campaign when they should have been WORKING.
how the fuck did you work with these psychos, those chats are fucking insane? i hope you and steven and lin try to fix what they shit on if it can even be mended at this point.. all i can say is wow, i couldn't imagine dealing with people like that

The answer: GREED.

And it looks like greed got the best of all parties involved...

Not me, i was offered the fee up front by steven before it all started. I was also being asked to do a lot of work and give up a critical position for Halo.

They claimed that the funds were going to be combined. BUT in reality they wanted to POCKET their 191 BTC as if they deserved it some fucking how for nothing. And they didnt want to give back. Instead, Gekko fakes a 20K bill and Bob threatens Steven when he thinks its unfair Steven and Lin bought me coins.
1869  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 03:37:06 AM
Just so you know Gekko not only threatened me over the phone in some absolutely sinister ways but in almost every conversation we had. Their threats were relentless, violent and non stop. He is almost worse than Bob these guys were getting on my very last nerve. They paid for a stupid FUD campaign when they should have been WORKING.
how the fuck did you work with these psychos, those chats are fucking insane? i hope you and steven and lin try to fix what they shit on if it can even be mended at this point.. all i can say is wow, i couldn't imagine dealing with people like that

You think thats bad? You should have heard them on the phone. It was unbearable. I wanted to send a lawyer to these jerks.

Their theats were constant. All they wanted was money from their own project just like a couple of evil vultures.
1870  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 03:30:16 AM
Just so you know Gekko not only threatened me over the phone in some absolutely sinister ways but in almost every conversation we had. Their threats were relentless, violent and non stop. He is almost worse than Bob these guys were getting on my very last nerve. They paid for a stupid FUD campaign when they should have been WORKING.
1871  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 03:18:56 AM
EVERYONE SAY HELLO TO GEKKO WHO THREATENED ME ONE MORE THAN ONE OCCASION

AND MEET STEVEN AND LIN THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO PAY BACK INTO THE PROJECT.

[12/6/2014 4:06:05 PM] linhan.ee: Yes I see some trouble in our group recently. Steven is a very nice guy. He wants to keep everybody happy
[12/6/2014 4:07:47 PM] linhan.ee: He used his own (including mine) coins (BTC and BAY) to handle this
[12/6/2014 4:07:57 PM] linhan.ee: I believe him
[12/6/2014 4:08:02 PM] linhan.ee: he is so nice
[12/6/2014 4:08:13 PM] linhan.ee: he just wants this to be a successful project
[12/6/2014 4:08:28 PM] cryptosteven: sorry for my inexperienced on Project manager. just back to airport now.
[12/6/2014 4:09:07 PM] linhan.ee: Steven, I am glad you're back. Hopefully you have had a wonderful trip
[12/6/2014 4:09:53 PM] cryptosteven: thanks lin.
[12/6/2014 4:12:31 PM] linhan.ee: guess we need to work things out and keep this project well going. This is really a wonderful project and we had a perfect start. we should't be beaten by ourselves
[12/6/2014 4:13:18 PM] Gekko: With the attitude and lack of listening / cooperation. I think it's clear to see the destiny of this coin.
[12/6/2014 4:15:19 PM] Gekko: There are only a few crucial elements we needed to be a success. I've made it clear some our meeting, and those items continue to be denied. My hands are tied, I can only wait and see how the other partners step up now.
[12/6/2014 4:15:22 PM] linhan.ee: We could get much more if we cooperate together
[12/6/2014 4:17:21 PM] linhan.ee: David, I am glad you are also here
[12/6/2014 4:17:29 PM] David Zimbeck: ive been trying my best
[12/6/2014 4:17:34 PM] David Zimbeck: thats why i set up a Trello
[12/6/2014 4:17:36 PM] cryptosteven: we should cooperate together to make this be a success.
[12/6/2014 4:17:43 PM] David Zimbeck: and begged everyone to help me hire
[12/6/2014 4:17:45 PM] cryptosteven: how is the test going?
[12/6/2014 4:17:58 PM] David Zimbeck: the tests were done last night by 3 of my guys
[12/6/2014 4:18:05 PM] David Zimbeck: there should not have been any delays
[12/6/2014 4:18:11 PM] cryptosteven: should we release this to community today?
[12/6/2014 4:18:15 PM] cryptosteven: or need more test?
[12/6/2014 4:18:16 PM] David Zimbeck: of course
[12/6/2014 4:18:28 PM] linhan.ee: David, maybe I can help since I have company and I can hire more people
[12/6/2014 4:18:37 PM] David Zimbeck: lin that would be wonderful
[12/6/2014 4:18:38 PM] cryptosteven: or we can have a pubic test for community
[12/6/2014 4:18:47 PM] David Zimbeck: so far ive only been asking steven and gekko
[12/6/2014 4:18:53 PM] David Zimbeck: i realize they are both busy
[12/6/2014 4:19:14 PM] David Zimbeck: you are right about Steven, Lin
[12/6/2014 4:19:21 PM] David Zimbeck: he is a wonderful person and so kind
[12/6/2014 4:19:22 PM] linhan.ee: I know but if you can let me know the reqired skills, I can hire someone to do works
[12/6/2014 4:19:24 PM] David Zimbeck: maybe too kind
[12/6/2014 4:19:39 PM] David Zimbeck: i want someone who is very skilled in c++
[12/6/2014 4:19:48 PM] David Zimbeck: for non-python tasks
[12/6/2014 4:19:55 PM] David Zimbeck: and perhaps a project manager
[12/6/2014 4:20:06 PM] David Zimbeck: if they know bitcoin logic its a big plus
[12/6/2014 4:20:17 PM] linhan.ee: that's even better. people know more about c++ than python here in my city
[12/6/2014 4:20:45 PM] linhan.ee: the bad news is that they don't know bitconi logic at the beginning
[12/6/2014 4:20:49 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah i mean i can do most of the python myself
[12/6/2014 4:21:09 PM] David Zimbeck: if they dont, its ok lets just say if they are a master coder that works fast
[12/6/2014 4:21:12 PM] David Zimbeck: thats what matters
[12/6/2014 4:21:23 PM] David Zimbeck: their strengths should be in logic and debugging
[12/6/2014 4:22:01 PM] David Zimbeck: there is obvious issues with the new blackcoind source first of all
[12/6/2014 4:22:21 PM] David Zimbeck: it doesnt build well for windows. Sadly, the new build flubber sent doesnt work
[12/6/2014 4:22:26 PM] David Zimbeck: i need someone full time
[12/6/2014 4:22:34 PM] David Zimbeck: as of right now, im paying out of pocket
[12/6/2014 4:23:19 PM] David Zimbeck: my devs in cambodia are still learning luckily they are cheap about 150-500 per month per dev
[12/6/2014 4:23:22 PM] linhan.ee: It will take time for hiring a proper dev but I hired one guy for other thing and he is coming the next week. I can let him work on your job first but I am not sure if he can do it well since he needs time to learn bitcoin codes
[12/6/2014 4:23:34 PM] David Zimbeck: and i have one friend in the usa who will start work soon
[12/6/2014 4:23:46 PM] David Zimbeck: he is doing a big favor for us and working below minimum wage
[12/6/2014 4:24:06 PM] David Zimbeck: i can teach him
[12/6/2014 4:24:11 PM] David Zimbeck: a few hours a day
[12/6/2014 4:24:25 PM] linhan.ee: great. My guy is a skilled Qt dev. I will let him work on it next week
[12/6/2014 4:24:35 PM] David Zimbeck: it benefits me greatly to have more people who can do these things
[12/6/2014 4:25:01 PM] David Zimbeck: its crazy even with devs my workload got bigger not less
[12/6/2014 4:25:11 PM] David Zimbeck: because ive got to train them
[12/6/2014 4:25:17 PM] linhan.ee: That's right
[12/6/2014 4:25:26 PM] linhan.ee: I used to have the seem feeling Cheesy
[12/6/2014 4:25:30 PM] David Zimbeck: and they havent even touched my main code
[12/6/2014 4:25:32 PM] David Zimbeck: "D
[12/6/2014 4:25:35 PM] David Zimbeck: ')
[12/6/2014 4:25:38 PM] David Zimbeck: Smiley
[12/6/2014 4:26:00 PM] David Zimbeck: Steven saw the code for himself yesterday lol
[12/6/2014 4:26:10 PM] linhan.ee: only if you got a very skilled person who can work independently very well
[12/6/2014 4:26:27 PM] David Zimbeck: its not easy to find
[12/6/2014 4:26:35 PM] linhan.ee: yes, it's very hard
[12/6/2014 4:26:41 PM] David Zimbeck: coindesk even had an article on this... how companies have money but no coders
[12/6/2014 4:26:44 PM] linhan.ee: we both have the experiences
[12/6/2014 4:27:02 PM] David Zimbeck: http://www.coindesk.com/bridging-talent-gap-bitcoin-industry/
[12/6/2014 4:27:19 PM] David Zimbeck: i think people underestimate how rare coders like you and i actually are
[12/6/2014 4:27:28 PM] linhan.ee: it's easy to find a coder but very hard to find a skilled one Sad
[12/6/2014 4:27:39 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah and one who works fast
[12/6/2014 4:27:50 PM] David Zimbeck: because skill is meaningless if they cant hit a deadline
[12/6/2014 4:28:02 PM] linhan.ee: yes the one who can do things independently
[12/6/2014 4:28:03 PM] David Zimbeck: my coders are so slow i just do their work for them when my time frees up
[12/6/2014 4:28:14 PM] David Zimbeck: its already happened 3 times and with really easy tasks too
[12/6/2014 4:29:00 PM] linhan.ee: yes, I know one core coder can be 10x faster than a normal coder and do things much better
[12/6/2014 4:29:14 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah now i know why the job pays to much
[12/6/2014 4:29:28 PM] David Zimbeck: its what makes me curious about India
[12/6/2014 4:29:35 PM] David Zimbeck: i think Cambodia wasnt the best choice
[12/6/2014 4:29:50 PM] David Zimbeck: i did not realize this is not the field where saving money is the best strategy
[12/6/2014 4:30:21 PM] David Zimbeck: if one is to outsource they need to pull from the most popular and skilled destinations
[12/6/2014 4:30:44 PM] David Zimbeck: but india might be tricky too, since there are billions of people who knows what you will find
[12/6/2014 4:30:52 PM] David Zimbeck: im interviewing a team out there
[12/6/2014 4:31:14 PM] David Zimbeck: what actually concerns me right now, is the devs funds are very low and im forced to work on a shoe string budget
[12/6/2014 4:31:33 PM] David Zimbeck: already half of it has been eaten and none of it for developement
[12/6/2014 4:31:57 PM] linhan.ee: Yes, I know. we don't have much dev funds left. I will try my best to let my guys do some work for you
[12/6/2014 4:32:07 PM] David Zimbeck: thanks Lin
[12/6/2014 4:32:18 PM] linhan.ee: one week later, I will let the Qt guy work on this project
[12/6/2014 4:32:34 PM] linhan.ee: I will pay him by myself at the beginning
[12/6/2014 4:32:37 PM] David Zimbeck: if things get too tight i can even come out there
[12/6/2014 4:32:47 PM] David Zimbeck: and visit you and Steven in China
[12/6/2014 4:33:00 PM] David Zimbeck: are you also from
[12/6/2014 4:33:04 PM] David Zimbeck: Shanghai?
[12/6/2014 4:33:12 PM] linhan.ee: I am not far from Shanghai
[12/6/2014 4:33:21 PM] linhan.ee: I can go to Shanghai if necessory
[12/6/2014 4:33:33 PM] David Zimbeck: well i can go anywhere
[12/6/2014 4:33:35 PM] linhan.ee: but I don't think it will solve these issues
[12/6/2014 4:33:40 PM] David Zimbeck: when i say im going to do something, i do it
[12/6/2014 4:33:57 PM] David Zimbeck: price is never going to deter me
[12/6/2014 4:33:58 PM] linhan.ee: we still need to find proper devs
[12/6/2014 4:34:18 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah well worst case scenario i can do all the c++ work myself
[12/6/2014 4:34:26 PM] David Zimbeck: it just means people wait longer for pegging
[12/6/2014 4:34:39 PM] linhan.ee: thanks for your great work
[12/6/2014 4:34:52 PM] linhan.ee:  Let's work together on the dev first
[12/6/2014 4:35:18 PM] linhan.ee: to releae your work load a little bit
[12/6/2014 4:35:23 PM] David Zimbeck: ok sure, whoever you find as long as they are fast and talented, i can teach them whatever they need to know
[12/6/2014 4:35:23 PM] linhan.ee: if not add Cheesy
[12/6/2014 4:35:43 PM] David Zimbeck: i can always take on more work man
[12/6/2014 4:36:02 PM] linhan.ee: I don't want to add more workload. If you have some materials on the dev, you can let me know.
[12/6/2014 4:36:12 PM] linhan.ee: I will let him read and learn by himself
[12/6/2014 4:36:16 PM] David Zimbeck: well
[12/6/2014 4:36:22 PM] David Zimbeck: thats why a project manager would be good
[12/6/2014 4:36:32 PM] David Zimbeck: someone who is good with logic, management and flow charts
[12/6/2014 4:36:57 PM] David Zimbeck: someone who has managed coding teams before and knows exactly how to describe the logical flow of code
[12/6/2014 4:37:02 PM] David Zimbeck: and organize coders on git
[12/6/2014 4:37:21 PM] David Zimbeck: those would be the two key people that would help greatly
[12/6/2014 4:38:31 PM | Edited 4:38:56 PM] linhan.ee: Yes I am doing these work everyday on other projects of my company but I really don't have enough energy on this dev work and I don't have much experence in bitcoin core
[12/6/2014 4:39:07 PM] David Zimbeck: hmm
[12/6/2014 4:39:23 PM] linhan.ee: It's also too hard to find a new guy to do this
[12/6/2014 4:39:30 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah im just saying a project manager could also help me find more coders
[12/6/2014 4:39:41 PM] linhan.ee: that's right
[12/6/2014 4:39:49 PM] linhan.ee: but I can still help you to find coders
[12/6/2014 4:39:54 PM] David Zimbeck: the reason they have to be in China or India or Cambodia is because of the price
[12/6/2014 4:40:17 PM] linhan.ee: I have a manager in my company and he helps me to find coders all the time
[12/6/2014 4:42:36 PM] linhan.ee: OK, so we have some agreements and I will help to find more coders and I will let one of my guy work on the dev work (windows wallet). I will pay him at the beginning until he can really do something for this project
[12/6/2014 4:43:17 PM] David Zimbeck: ok thanks Lin
[12/6/2014 4:43:30 PM] David Zimbeck: if you need to get a hold of me, im always here
[12/6/2014 4:43:47 PM] linhan.ee: Thanks. No problem.
[12/6/2014 4:44:19 PM] linhan.ee: Steven, since we will have more devs work together. would you please create a new group for the devs?
[12/6/2014 4:47:06 PM] cryptosteven: yes we can have a group for coding people, and a group for marking people, gekko have setted a group for marketing and website.
[12/6/2014 4:48:02 PM] linhan.ee: great idea. that's more professional
[12/6/2014 5:11:05 PM] Gekko: There already has been a group for devs. That's where Flubber has helped me make everything remotely possible.
[12/6/2014 5:15:08 PM] cryptosteven: we can ask more coder join that group later.
[12/6/2014 5:16:18 PM] Gekko: Sure, but it won't be with David. My programmers know his capabilities (or lack thereof)
[12/6/2014 5:16:27 PM] David Zimbeck: excuse me?
[12/6/2014 5:16:37 PM] Gekko: Read up
[12/6/2014 5:16:45 PM] David Zimbeck: Gekko you got a fucking problem?
[12/6/2014 5:16:51 PM] Gekko: Yes
[12/6/2014 5:16:54 PM] Gekko: You
[12/6/2014 5:16:58 PM] David Zimbeck: why you always have a bug up your ass?
[12/6/2014 5:17:15 PM] Gekko: You're done "genius"
[12/6/2014 5:17:23 PM] David Zimbeck: excuse me???
[12/6/2014 5:17:36 PM] David Zimbeck: i just released your windows wallet you little monkey
[12/6/2014 5:17:44 PM] Gekko: You're not worth anymore of my time
[12/6/2014 5:17:57 PM] Gekko: I'll laugh as I burn you alive
[12/6/2014 5:18:01 PM] Gekko: Adios
[12/6/2014 5:18:02 PM] David Zimbeck: i didnt do jack shit to you
[12/6/2014 5:18:18 PM] David Zimbeck: you and Bob are really bad people
[12/6/2014 5:19:14 PM] Gekko: I'm the king of the monkey's. Su wa kong.
[12/6/2014 5:20:11 PM] David Zimbeck: Gekko you are like a girl
[12/6/2014 5:20:25 PM] David Zimbeck: all you know how to do is call names and make threats
[12/6/2014 5:20:46 PM] David Zimbeck: you are just like your friend Bob all you two do is ask for money from everyone
[12/6/2014 5:22:50 PM] Gekko: Want a tiny violin?
[12/6/2014 5:23:47 PM] Gekko: Watch and take a few lessons on what it takes to do business.
[12/6/2014 5:24:02 PM] David Zimbeck: it takes EMPLOYEES
[12/6/2014 5:24:06 PM] David Zimbeck: and CAPITAL
[12/6/2014 5:24:18 PM] David Zimbeck: not threats and stupidity
[12/6/2014 5:24:18 PM] Gekko: Lulz
[12/6/2014 5:25:14 PM] David Zimbeck: Gekko, if i pull my support for this project and discuss what you and Bob are doing, there is no project
[12/6/2014 5:25:40 PM] Gekko: Please
[12/6/2014 5:25:52 PM] Gekko: Do it now
[12/6/2014 5:26:28 PM] David Zimbeck: I think from now on, all discussions about Bay should simply exlude you and Bob
[12/6/2014 5:28:53 PM] Gekko: Ok, make me more $
[12/6/2014 5:29:04 PM] Gekko: Go away worm
[12/6/2014 5:29:29 PM] David Zimbeck: make you more money how?
[12/6/2014 5:29:51 PM] David Zimbeck: Brilliant decision hiring these guy Steven
[12/6/2014 5:30:04 PM] Gekko: I know your very smart.. try to think for a second
[12/6/2014 5:30:07 PM] David Zimbeck: I'm sorry but for you to allow this behavior and say nothing is not helpful
[12/6/2014 5:30:25 PM] David Zimbeck: why because you and Bob have coins?
[12/6/2014 5:30:36 PM] Gekko: Did it hurt?
[12/6/2014 5:31:01 PM] David Zimbeck: no of course nothing you say or do can hurt me
[12/6/2014 5:31:18 PM] David Zimbeck: you are just a little punk
[12/6/2014 5:31:32 PM] David Zimbeck: if you were in mexico talking to my face like this you would have been hurt bad
[12/6/2014 5:31:56 PM] David Zimbeck: you are god damn lucky both you and bob that you have not met me in person
[12/6/2014 5:32:31 PM] Gekko: As funny as it is to fuck with your ego, I've got other fish to fry. It's been a pleasure to rape you. Glad I could make a few bucks on your head
[12/6/2014 5:32:50 PM] David Zimbeck: good fuck off
[12/6/2014 5:32:51 PM] Gekko: Good luck repairing your image / name
[12/6/2014 5:33:02 PM] David Zimbeck: Lin and BTER are here
[12/6/2014 5:33:09 PM] Gekko: Lol
[12/6/2014 5:33:13 PM] Gekko: And?
[12/6/2014 5:33:30 PM] David Zimbeck: they will continue to work
[12/6/2014 5:33:36 PM] cryptosteven: no need to quarrel with each other. i really do not like this.
[12/6/2014 5:33:44 PM] David Zimbeck: Steven, no this is going to end here
[12/6/2014 5:34:41 PM] Gekko: I just think it's funny
[12/6/2014 5:34:42 PM] Gekko: You're right David, nobody will ever trust you again
[12/6/2014 5:34:54 PM] Gekko: Thanks for letting me use your name. Watch now as I destroy you
[12/6/2014 5:34:57 PM] cryptosteven: if we do not like each other, just leave peacefully. do not hurt anyone. we worked together before.
[12/6/2014 5:35:00 PM] David Zimbeck: lol go ahead
[12/6/2014 5:35:06 PM] Gekko: K
[12/6/2014 5:35:46 PM] David Zimbeck: You cant threaten me its obvious you have nothing better to do
[12/6/2014 5:36:09 PM] Gekko: No threat, only action now
[12/6/2014 5:36:38 PM] David Zimbeck: go ahead
[12/6/2014 5:36:44 PM] Gekko: I've been waiting for this moment
[12/6/2014 5:36:48 PM] David Zimbeck: pay your little fud team dump your coins
[12/6/2014 5:37:19 PM] Gekko: Coins don't matter. I'll have fun showing the truth.
[12/6/2014 5:37:43 PM] Gekko: Laughing as I smear you like the cockroach you are
[12/6/2014 5:38:03 PM] David Zimbeck: and i did NOTHING to you
[12/6/2014 5:38:05 PM] David Zimbeck: for the record
[12/6/2014 5:38:12 PM] David Zimbeck: so the only cockroach is you
[12/6/2014 5:38:20 PM] David Zimbeck: you are lucky i dont send someone to Taipei
[12/6/2014 5:38:47 PM] Gekko: You thought your rep was in trouble before. Now you will bleed out
[12/6/2014 5:38:53 PM] Gekko: Lol
[12/6/2014 5:39:00 PM] David Zimbeck: i dont care about my rep
[12/6/2014 5:39:09 PM] David Zimbeck: you think its some sort of threat
[12/6/2014 5:39:10 PM] Gekko: I know your sisters name
[12/6/2014 5:39:14 PM] David Zimbeck: who cares
[12/6/2014 5:39:18 PM] Gekko: I have your parents
[12/6/2014 5:39:23 PM] David Zimbeck: so what
[12/6/2014 5:39:44 PM] Gekko: You can only hope to shut your mouth now
[12/6/2014 5:39:59 PM] David Zimbeck: no i dont respond to threats from assholes like you
[12/6/2014 5:40:32 PM] Gekko: Ok, your words will be more than your own demise now
[12/6/2014 5:46:09 PM] Gekko: I have a lot of planning to do now. Adios.
[12/6/2014 5:46:16 PM] *** Gekko has left ***
[12/6/2014 5:46:55 PM] David Zimbeck: Bob its your turn to leave
[12/6/2014 10:24:52 PM] International Rob: steven, lin.... the only way this will work is if you put your doggy david in a cage and just let him out when its needed
[12/6/2014 10:25:09 PM] David Zimbeck: Gekko left
[12/6/2014 10:25:17 PM] International Rob: I cant deal with people who are so two faced
[12/6/2014 10:25:19 PM] David Zimbeck: you arent part of the project either
[12/6/2014 10:25:28 PM] International Rob: ohh im not?Huh
[12/6/2014 10:25:30 PM] International Rob: im out???
[12/6/2014 10:25:32 PM] International Rob: ok cool
[12/6/2014 10:25:33 PM] David Zimbeck: nope go
[12/6/2014 10:25:34 PM] International Rob: laterz
[12/6/2014 10:37:04 PM] David Zimbeck: Lin, Steven, can you both please leave this thread?
[12/6/2014 10:37:12 PM] David Zimbeck: and then i will
[12/6/2014 10:46:12 PM | Edited 10:46:36 PM] linhan.ee: let's close this thread. it's harmful but not useful now
[12/6/2014 10:46:29 PM] David Zimbeck: how to do that?
[12/6/2014 10:46:55 PM] International Rob: lin
[12/6/2014 10:47:18 PM] International Rob: you don't have any problems with david being a partner to us but to everyone else hes just being paid for his tech
[12/6/2014 10:47:23 PM] International Rob: is that not a problem for you
[12/6/2014 10:47:24 PM] International Rob: ?
[12/6/2014 10:47:42 PM] linhan.ee: pleave leave me private messages
[12/6/2014 10:47:47 PM] David Zimbeck: Bob its just as reason for you to ask for 70BTC and for Gekko to threaten me
[12/6/2014 10:48:01 PM] *** linhan.ee has left ***
[12/6/2014 10:48:14 PM] David Zimbeck: Gekko already threatened me the thread is over
[12/6/2014 10:48:24 PM] International Rob: okk bro
[12/6/2014 10:48:27 PM] International Rob: later
[12/6/2014 10:48:28 PM] David Zimbeck: and somebody tried posting personal info of mine on a forum
[12/6/2014 10:48:37 PM] David Zimbeck: it got immediately deleted
1872  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 03:10:48 AM
[12/5/2014 12:49:29 PM] International Rob: bro
[12/5/2014 12:49:31 PM] International Rob: im pissed
[12/5/2014 12:49:38 PM] International Rob: I ncant voice chat my girl is sleeping
[12/5/2014 12:49:43 PM] International Rob: but we can chat here all you wish
[12/5/2014 12:49:43 PM] David Zimbeck: you shouldnt be in business if you get angry so easy
[12/5/2014 12:50:46 PM] International Rob: all im saying is that ur playing both sides and its time to pick one.. you wanna "licence" ur tech to bitbay, find.. send us back 350M bay and 70btc... keep the 100 like we discussed.... and you go on ur way.. or ur a partner.. you keep the coins and you start acting and talking like a partner
[12/5/2014 12:51:45 PM] International Rob: enough is enough bro,... we been talking about this for weeks.. now I come back and see more of ypu talking about the money helping blackcoin, and you just licencing to bitbay
[12/5/2014 12:51:51 PM] International Rob: cant have it both ways
[12/5/2014 12:52:21 PM] David Zimbeck: lol
[12/5/2014 12:52:32 PM] David Zimbeck: you are still trying to get more btc?
[12/5/2014 12:52:52 PM] David Zimbeck: dont give me ultimatums
[12/5/2014 12:53:28 PM] David Zimbeck: im never speaking about money with you
[12/5/2014 12:53:29 PM] David Zimbeck: ever
[12/5/2014 12:53:50 PM] David Zimbeck: we can talk business, pushing the coin
[12/5/2014 12:53:54 PM] David Zimbeck: we can talk progress
[12/5/2014 12:53:56 PM] David Zimbeck: whatever
[12/5/2014 12:54:12 PM] International Rob: nahh bro
[12/5/2014 12:54:14 PM] David Zimbeck: you wanna be a partner? make your name public
[12/5/2014 12:54:16 PM] International Rob: ur a joke....
[12/5/2014 12:54:18 PM] International Rob: big time
[12/5/2014 12:54:19 PM] David Zimbeck: or i will do it for you
[12/5/2014 12:54:21 PM] International Rob: you cant code for shit
[12/5/2014 12:54:25 PM] International Rob: even steven knows it
[12/5/2014 12:54:31 PM] David Zimbeck: i cant? lol
[12/5/2014 12:54:35 PM] International Rob: nahh bro
[12/5/2014 12:54:35 PM] David Zimbeck: i coded Halo alone
[12/5/2014 12:54:36 PM] International Rob: you cant
[12/5/2014 12:54:58 PM] International Rob: good for you.. you may be a one hit wonder but ur not gonna play me on this coin bro
[12/5/2014 12:55:03 PM] International Rob: you understand that right
[12/5/2014 12:55:04 PM] International Rob: ?
[12/5/2014 12:55:08 PM] David Zimbeck: im not playing you
[12/5/2014 12:55:10 PM] David Zimbeck: im just coding
[12/5/2014 12:55:17 PM] David Zimbeck: i dont care about you
[12/5/2014 12:55:34 PM] International Rob: ok bro
[12/5/2014 12:55:40 PM] International Rob: enjoy ur coin dude
[12/5/2014 12:55:42 PM] International Rob: laterz
1873  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 03:05:52 AM
This is just a quick example i will get more detailed shortly.

[12/5/2014 8:40:12 AM] International Rob: hey steven
[12/5/2014 8:40:15 AM] International Rob: still around?
[12/5/2014 11:21:49 PM] David Zimbeck: Selling your coins Bob? Cheesy
[12/6/2014 1:36:09 AM] cryptosteven: everybody can sell some coins, but do not crash the market.
[12/6/2014 1:36:25 AM] cryptosteven: How is the new wallet going?
[12/6/2014 1:37:05 AM] cryptosteven: When we are ready, just post a link in this group.
[12/6/2014 1:37:08 AM] cryptosteven: Thanks
[12/6/2014 3:38:53 AM] International Rob: why is david even in this chat steven??? hes not a partner in the eyes of the crypto community... to them he is just "licensing" the halo tech.. he has said it many times already
[12/6/2014 3:39:08 AM] International Rob: and if that is the case then he owes us 350M bay and 70 btc
[12/6/2014 3:39:23 AM] International Rob: hes a cockroach steven,  I don't know why you even bother with him
[12/6/2014 3:48:04 AM] International Rob: david.. ur a dirtball... just wanted to remind you
[12/6/2014 3:48:24 AM] International Rob: and if it was just you on this coin it woulda been dead already... ur lucky I have respect for gecko and elmer and steven...
[12/6/2014 3:48:32 AM] International Rob: otherwise this would all be over already
[12/6/2014 3:50:37 AM] David Zimbeck: Bob there is something really wrong with your head
[12/6/2014 3:50:52 AM] David Zimbeck: i didnt do jack shit to you
[12/6/2014 3:51:07 AM] David Zimbeck: everyone knew what i got paid except for you
[12/6/2014 3:51:48 AM] International Rob: bro eat a dick and choke on that shit... ur a lying dirtbag.... its that simple
[12/6/2014 3:51:56 AM] David Zimbeck: i didnt lie to you
[12/6/2014 3:52:05 AM] International Rob: one minute ur a partner, next ur a sub contractor
[12/6/2014 3:52:17 AM] David Zimbeck: you really think this level of maturity you are showing is going to win anyone over?
[12/6/2014 3:52:17 AM] International Rob: tomorrow you'll be a mascot then a bench warmer
[12/6/2014 3:52:25 AM] David Zimbeck: it only reveals your own level of class
[12/6/2014 3:52:41 AM] David Zimbeck: i didnt tell you how many coins i had
[12/6/2014 3:52:49 AM] David Zimbeck: and you continue to cry about it
[12/6/2014 3:52:54 AM] International Rob: bro you think I need to win people ober.. I got over 1M in land, like 400K in cars, watches, and cash and gold stacked
[12/6/2014 3:52:57 AM] David Zimbeck: even though i sent you a screen shot
[12/6/2014 3:53:03 AM] International Rob: i make my own rules and don't need anything from anyone
[12/6/2014 3:53:05 AM] David Zimbeck: confirming the number of coins i had
[12/6/2014 3:53:08 AM] International Rob: you do realize this right
[12/6/2014 3:53:18 AM] David Zimbeck: money doesnt buy you friends
[12/6/2014 3:53:35 AM] International Rob: i got more friends then i need and I don't need a friend like you with ur god complex
[12/6/2014 3:53:36 AM] David Zimbeck: lol i lived in hollywood worked on films and i know billionaires
[12/6/2014 3:53:41 AM] International Rob: ur a fucktard david
[12/6/2014 3:53:45 AM] David Zimbeck: some of the saddest people i know are rich
[12/6/2014 3:54:02 AM] David Zimbeck: and your money cant buy you looks, class, kindness, trust etc
[12/6/2014 3:54:09 AM] David Zimbeck: just hangers one who like you for your money
[12/6/2014 3:54:24 AM] David Zimbeck: i dont have a god complex
[12/6/2014 3:54:26 AM] David Zimbeck: you do
[12/6/2014 3:54:50 AM] David Zimbeck: you threaten steven for money all the time its low class
[12/6/2014 3:54:53 AM] International Rob: bro... when you have 40 people paying you 1K a month to "teach them how to trade" then you can talk about friends
[12/6/2014 3:54:59 AM] David Zimbeck: lol
[12/6/2014 3:55:02 AM] International Rob: nahh bro.. its not a threat
[12/6/2014 3:55:08 AM] International Rob: it was what was needed at the times
[12/6/2014 3:55:11 AM] International Rob: anyway
[12/6/2014 3:55:17 AM] David Zimbeck: you have some people who dont like you in that group of 40
[12/6/2014 3:55:32 AM] David Zimbeck: cause i got like 5 messages from your group the instant the project started
[12/6/2014 3:55:34 AM] International Rob: shut the fuck up kid.. ur a nobody and just thank god thart there are other people involved in this
1874  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 02:56:12 AM
Bob censored that chat. (like the part where he extortes) And i will post a video showing what really went down.
A log of those conversations should be in your skype too. You can find some of those censored parts and take a screenshot from skype.

Im going to show what i can. This is totally absurd.
1875  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 02:52:58 AM
Its not hard to see my friend.
1876  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 02:49:16 AM
Bob censored that chat. (like the part where he extortes) And i will post a video showing what really went down.

NOTHING WAS EDITED AND EVERYONE WHO TAKES THE TIME TO READ IT ALL WILL SEE.. YOUR GAME IS OVER KID.. OVER AND DONE WITH...

GIVE UP!!

Oh really? Just wait for my video.

fuck you bitch

post it already... ur godcomplex is going to fail you this time!!
post your goddam screens. no ones intrested in your edited copy+paste fuckshit.

I will do a live video of my skype logs, Ive got every threat from Bob and Gekko saved including the new ones where they extort from BTER.
1877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 02:45:49 AM
its very simple.  Bob, did you, or didn't you receive 500BTC for your roll in bay.  If so then what justification can you give to investors for being given this amount.  And why now do you bring your entourage here to FUD and troll this thread which is ultimately hurting the investors who essentially PAID you 500 BTC

I dont owe the investors an explanation... I was paid by the dev team.. if anything they owe you an explanation.. I did what I was paid to do..

If you think they may have overpaid a bit then I recommend you take that up with them.
u said u invested private in bay, didnt u?

NOPE he didnt invest hardly anything he said his group would and that he would pay them.

Lies i never told my group i was giving them back any btc... why would I do such a thing?

You certainly told us you did!!
1878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 02:44:59 AM
Bob censored that chat. (like the part where he extortes) And i will post a video showing what really went down.

NOTHING WAS EDITED AND EVERYONE WHO TAKES THE TIME TO READ IT ALL WILL SEE.. YOUR GAME IS OVER KID.. OVER AND DONE WITH...

GIVE UP!!

Oh really? Just wait for my video.
1879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 02:44:07 AM
its very simple.  Bob, did you, or didn't you receive 500BTC for your roll in bay.  If so then what justification can you give to investors for being given this amount.  And why now do you bring your entourage here to FUD and troll this thread which is ultimately hurting the investors who essentially PAID you 500 BTC

I dont owe the investors an explanation... I was paid by the dev team.. if anything they owe you an explanation.. I did what I was paid to do..

If you think they may have overpaid a bit then I recommend you take that up with them.
u said u invested private in bay, didnt u?

NOPE he didnt invest hardly anything he said his group would and that he would pay them.
1880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 02:42:23 AM
Bob censored that chat. (like the part where he extortes) And i will post a video showing what really went down.
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