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1801  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 12, 2014, 10:53:15 PM
As I see this mess after a quick reading, in short:

Bob and his merry bunch got out with scammed BTCs, BTER got their transaction fees? while David has been left holding the BitBay bag.

You are quite wrong indeed. Here is the breakdown:

Step 1:
Steve knew David for over one year, they decided to make coin together to helps pay for David's debt. Steven (Chinese) has connections to Bter.

Step 2: Clone BlackCoin and copy BlackHalo to get investors money.

Step 3: They contacted Bob and his team to make their plan a success.

Step 4: Try to "protect the partners involved" to hide the scheme created by Zimbeck. Maybe nobody will find out?

Step 5: Pump the price and exit with all the free BitBay. Bobs revelation has prevented David from unloading, but he still will and plans to (or has he already?).

To anyone keeping track, David has been clearly lying and doing anything to cover his tracks, misleading words, and deception. Nobody should feel bad for him. He is the ring leader here and now he's upset because Bob made faster "moves" on the chess board. Zimbeck, the FUD is real this time. You have implicated yourself and have been clearly deceptive over the entire process. Many were burned in this scheme, including all of Bob's puppets (gekko, investors, your supporters, and most of the shills here). Whenever you try to point the finger is when it is time to look in the mirror. The "grand chess master" has been exposed for his greed.

BULLSHIT


[11/3/2014 6:14:44 PM] crypto.gekko: a coin is just a coin without a good developer.
[11/3/2014 6:14:52 PM] David Zimbeck: not at all good for my reputation
[11/3/2014 6:15:24 PM] crypto.gekko: This is what an investor is banking his money on. Your skills.
[11/3/2014 6:15:36 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but somebody else profits
[11/3/2014 6:15:37 PM] crypto.gekko: Otherwise it's best to pay you for the work only.
[11/3/2014 6:15:39 PM] David Zimbeck: by using my name
[11/3/2014 6:15:51 PM] crypto.gekko: you are not the only one behind the coin.
[11/3/2014 6:16:04 PM] crypto.gekko: There will be an entire team behind you.
[11/3/2014 6:16:22 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but that doesnt matter in the ICO phase
[11/3/2014 6:16:33 PM] crypto.gekko: That doesn't make sense to me
[11/3/2014 6:16:34 PM] David Zimbeck: you guys can just make a lot of BTC off the hype
[11/3/2014 6:16:48 PM] crypto.gekko: we could, sure. but that's not what this is about
[11/3/2014 6:16:53 PM] David Zimbeck: yes it is
[11/3/2014 6:17:00 PM] crypto.gekko: im sorry to hear that
[11/3/2014 6:17:19 PM] David Zimbeck: my name was used in the past by another coin
[11/3/2014 6:17:33 PM] David Zimbeck: and it was just to profit off my name
[11/3/2014 6:17:43 PM] crypto.gekko: The goal is bring this coin into the top 10 marketcap. We have the money and connections to do that.
[11/3/2014 6:17:49 PM] David Zimbeck: those kind of things are bad for me if I ever decide to start my own coin
[11/3/2014 6:18:06 PM] crypto.gekko: I would personally like this to be your coin.
[11/3/2014 6:18:52 PM] David Zimbeck: ok so i can attach my name to the coin if i get the btc up front
[11/3/2014 6:19:19 PM] crypto.gekko: Surely. And I'm willing to work with you in any way to make you happy.
[11/3/2014 6:19:25 PM] David Zimbeck: ok
[11/3/2014 6:20:13 PM] crypto.gekko: 30k is a lot of money, but I know your tech and support is worth every penny. Working together, the development is real and the money is real too.
[11/3/2014 6:20:26 PM] David Zimbeck: i believe my tech is worth a lot more
[11/3/2014 6:20:36 PM] David Zimbeck: i have turned down 30K before
[11/3/2014 6:21:03 PM] crypto.gekko: That's why our continued relationship would only bring more rewards.
[11/3/2014 6:21:07 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[11/3/2014 6:21:11 PM] David Zimbeck: thats the point
[11/3/2014 6:21:16 PM] David Zimbeck: im loyal everyone knows that
[11/3/2014 6:21:34 PM] crypto.gekko: The coin will have a large development pool. As you spend time to develop into the future, that money goes to you of course.
[11/3/2014 6:21:36 PM] David Zimbeck: you get more than you pay for
[11/3/2014 6:21:45 PM] David Zimbeck: since i can help your entire team
[11/3/2014 6:21:57 PM] crypto.gekko: indeed
[11/3/2014 6:22:21 PM] crypto.gekko: So what is the best way to move forward in your opinion?
[11/3/2014 6:22:45 PM] David Zimbeck: that all depends on you guys
[11/3/2014 6:22:57 PM] David Zimbeck: you know your schedule
[11/3/2014 6:23:14 PM] David Zimbeck: I can give you guys an address
[11/3/2014 6:24:09 PM] crypto.gekko: If you have trust in Lin and Steve and you are truly interested in making BitBay your "baby". I see no reason why you sholdnt take the bull by the horns.
[11/3/2014 6:24:36 PM] crypto.gekko: Otherwise, I will need to hire multiple devs and pay them as needed. You being one of them for your technology.
[11/3/2014 6:25:00 PM] David Zimbeck: I'm already doing that
[11/3/2014 6:25:13 PM] David Zimbeck: I work on Halo every day
[11/3/2014 6:25:33 PM] crypto.gekko: I think I have a better grip on the situation now.
[11/3/2014 6:26:04 PM] David Zimbeck: Basically when I wake up, I code. Then eat and sleep.
[11/3/2014 6:26:07 PM] David Zimbeck: lmao
[11/3/2014 6:26:27 PM] David Zimbeck: i also am training devs here in cambodia
[11/3/2014 6:26:28 PM] crypto.gekko: I do the same, but basically help other coins to make their tech a reality.
[11/3/2014 6:26:36 PM] David Zimbeck: i can train any of Lin or Steves devs
[11/3/2014 6:27:04 PM] crypto.gekko: Is the cost of that included in your initial payment?
[11/3/2014 6:27:20 PM] David Zimbeck: depends on what they ask me Cheesy
[11/3/2014 6:27:31 PM] crypto.gekko: So we will need to create a contract.
[11/3/2014 6:27:45 PM] David Zimbeck: A real contract on paper?
[11/3/2014 6:27:59 PM] crypto.gekko: Digital contract or smartcontract if needed.
[11/3/2014 6:28:21 PM] crypto.gekko: The details of which I will discuss when I meet with Steve and Lin in China next week.
[11/3/2014 6:28:53 PM] David Zimbeck: Just draft a contract on paper
[11/3/2014 6:29:07 PM] crypto.gekko: Sure, I'm fine with a simple record of notary.
[11/3/2014 6:29:18 PM] David Zimbeck: most important, i dont want my name attached to the project until the btc funds
[11/3/2014 6:29:30 PM] David Zimbeck: once it funds you can use my name
[11/3/2014 6:29:38 PM] crypto.gekko: that seems more a matter of trust to me
[11/3/2014 6:29:40 PM] David Zimbeck: i just wanted to make sure my name is not used for profit
[11/3/2014 6:30:03 PM] David Zimbeck: because it could harm my reputation otherwise
1802  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THOSE BAY FAQs... on: December 12, 2014, 10:48:29 PM
Barrabas, i didnt find out until it was too late. And are being a real asshole. Ive got lots of logs to prove they promised the moon and i was very cautious.
1803  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THOSE BAY FAQs... on: December 12, 2014, 10:46:39 PM
[11/3/2014 6:14:44 PM] crypto.gekko: a coin is just a coin without a good developer.
[11/3/2014 6:14:52 PM] David Zimbeck: not at all good for my reputation
[11/3/2014 6:15:24 PM] crypto.gekko: This is what an investor is banking his money on. Your skills.
[11/3/2014 6:15:36 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but somebody else profits
[11/3/2014 6:15:37 PM] crypto.gekko: Otherwise it's best to pay you for the work only.
[11/3/2014 6:15:39 PM] David Zimbeck: by using my name
[11/3/2014 6:15:51 PM] crypto.gekko: you are not the only one behind the coin.
[11/3/2014 6:16:04 PM] crypto.gekko: There will be an entire team behind you.
[11/3/2014 6:16:22 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but that doesnt matter in the ICO phase
[11/3/2014 6:16:33 PM] crypto.gekko: That doesn't make sense to me
[11/3/2014 6:16:34 PM] David Zimbeck: you guys can just make a lot of BTC off the hype
[11/3/2014 6:16:48 PM] crypto.gekko: we could, sure. but that's not what this is about
[11/3/2014 6:16:53 PM] David Zimbeck: yes it is
[11/3/2014 6:17:00 PM] crypto.gekko: im sorry to hear that
[11/3/2014 6:17:19 PM] David Zimbeck: my name was used in the past by another coin
[11/3/2014 6:17:33 PM] David Zimbeck: and it was just to profit off my name
[11/3/2014 6:17:43 PM] crypto.gekko: The goal is bring this coin into the top 10 marketcap. We have the money and connections to do that.
[11/3/2014 6:17:49 PM] David Zimbeck: those kind of things are bad for me if I ever decide to start my own coin
[11/3/2014 6:18:06 PM] crypto.gekko: I would personally like this to be your coin.
[11/3/2014 6:18:52 PM] David Zimbeck: ok so i can attach my name to the coin if i get the btc up front
[11/3/2014 6:19:19 PM] crypto.gekko: Surely. And I'm willing to work with you in any way to make you happy.
[11/3/2014 6:19:25 PM] David Zimbeck: ok
[11/3/2014 6:20:13 PM] crypto.gekko: 30k is a lot of money, but I know your tech and support is worth every penny. Working together, the development is real and the money is real too.
[11/3/2014 6:20:26 PM] David Zimbeck: i believe my tech is worth a lot more
[11/3/2014 6:20:36 PM] David Zimbeck: i have turned down 30K before
[11/3/2014 6:21:03 PM] crypto.gekko: That's why our continued relationship would only bring more rewards.
[11/3/2014 6:21:07 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[11/3/2014 6:21:11 PM] David Zimbeck: thats the point
[11/3/2014 6:21:16 PM] David Zimbeck: im loyal everyone knows that
[11/3/2014 6:21:34 PM] crypto.gekko: The coin will have a large development pool. As you spend time to develop into the future, that money goes to you of course.
[11/3/2014 6:21:36 PM] David Zimbeck: you get more than you pay for
[11/3/2014 6:21:45 PM] David Zimbeck: since i can help your entire team
[11/3/2014 6:21:57 PM] crypto.gekko: indeed
[11/3/2014 6:22:21 PM] crypto.gekko: So what is the best way to move forward in your opinion?
[11/3/2014 6:22:45 PM] David Zimbeck: that all depends on you guys
[11/3/2014 6:22:57 PM] David Zimbeck: you know your schedule
[11/3/2014 6:23:14 PM] David Zimbeck: I can give you guys an address
[11/3/2014 6:24:09 PM] crypto.gekko: If you have trust in Lin and Steve and you are truly interested in making BitBay your "baby". I see no reason why you sholdnt take the bull by the horns.
[11/3/2014 6:24:36 PM] crypto.gekko: Otherwise, I will need to hire multiple devs and pay them as needed. You being one of them for your technology.
[11/3/2014 6:25:00 PM] David Zimbeck: I'm already doing that
[11/3/2014 6:25:13 PM] David Zimbeck: I work on Halo every day
[11/3/2014 6:25:33 PM] crypto.gekko: I think I have a better grip on the situation now.
[11/3/2014 6:26:04 PM] David Zimbeck: Basically when I wake up, I code. Then eat and sleep.
[11/3/2014 6:26:07 PM] David Zimbeck: lmao
[11/3/2014 6:26:27 PM] David Zimbeck: i also am training devs here in cambodia
[11/3/2014 6:26:28 PM] crypto.gekko: I do the same, but basically help other coins to make their tech a reality.
[11/3/2014 6:26:36 PM] David Zimbeck: i can train any of Lin or Steves devs
[11/3/2014 6:27:04 PM] crypto.gekko: Is the cost of that included in your initial payment?
[11/3/2014 6:27:20 PM] David Zimbeck: depends on what they ask me
[11/3/2014 6:27:31 PM] crypto.gekko: So we will need to create a contract.
[11/3/2014 6:27:45 PM] David Zimbeck: A real contract on paper?
[11/3/2014 6:27:59 PM] crypto.gekko: Digital contract or smartcontract if needed.
[11/3/2014 6:28:21 PM] crypto.gekko: The details of which I will discuss when I meet with Steve and Lin in China next week.
[11/3/2014 6:28:53 PM] David Zimbeck: Just draft a contract on paper
[11/3/2014 6:29:07 PM] crypto.gekko: Sure, I'm fine with a simple record of notary.
[11/3/2014 6:29:18 PM] David Zimbeck: most important, i dont want my name attached to the project until the btc funds
[11/3/2014 6:29:30 PM] David Zimbeck: once it funds you can use my name
[11/3/2014 6:29:38 PM] crypto.gekko: that seems more a matter of trust to me
[11/3/2014 6:29:40 PM] David Zimbeck: i just wanted to make sure my name is not used for profit
[11/3/2014 6:30:03 PM] David Zimbeck: because it could harm my reputation otherwise
1804  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 10:04:35 PM
[11/3/2014 6:14:44 PM] crypto.gekko: a coin is just a coin without a good developer.
[11/3/2014 6:14:52 PM] David Zimbeck: not at all good for my reputation
[11/3/2014 6:15:24 PM] crypto.gekko: This is what an investor is banking his money on. Your skills.
[11/3/2014 6:15:36 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but somebody else profits
[11/3/2014 6:15:37 PM] crypto.gekko: Otherwise it's best to pay you for the work only.
[11/3/2014 6:15:39 PM] David Zimbeck: by using my name
[11/3/2014 6:15:51 PM] crypto.gekko: you are not the only one behind the coin.
[11/3/2014 6:16:04 PM] crypto.gekko: There will be an entire team behind you.
[11/3/2014 6:16:22 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah but that doesnt matter in the ICO phase
[11/3/2014 6:16:33 PM] crypto.gekko: That doesn't make sense to me
[11/3/2014 6:16:34 PM] David Zimbeck: you guys can just make a lot of BTC off the hype
[11/3/2014 6:16:48 PM] crypto.gekko: we could, sure. but that's not what this is about
[11/3/2014 6:16:53 PM] David Zimbeck: yes it is
[11/3/2014 6:17:00 PM] crypto.gekko: im sorry to hear that
[11/3/2014 6:17:19 PM] David Zimbeck: my name was used in the past by another coin
[11/3/2014 6:17:33 PM] David Zimbeck: and it was just to profit off my name
[11/3/2014 6:17:43 PM] crypto.gekko: The goal is bring this coin into the top 10 marketcap. We have the money and connections to do that.
[11/3/2014 6:17:49 PM] David Zimbeck: those kind of things are bad for me if I ever decide to start my own coin
[11/3/2014 6:18:06 PM] crypto.gekko: I would personally like this to be your coin.
[11/3/2014 6:18:52 PM] David Zimbeck: ok so i can attach my name to the coin if i get the btc up front
[11/3/2014 6:19:19 PM] crypto.gekko: Surely. And I'm willing to work with you in any way to make you happy.
[11/3/2014 6:19:25 PM] David Zimbeck: ok
[11/3/2014 6:20:13 PM] crypto.gekko: 30k is a lot of money, but I know your tech and support is worth every penny. Working together, the development is real and the money is real too.
[11/3/2014 6:20:26 PM] David Zimbeck: i believe my tech is worth a lot more
[11/3/2014 6:20:36 PM] David Zimbeck: i have turned down 30K before
[11/3/2014 6:21:03 PM] crypto.gekko: That's why our continued relationship would only bring more rewards.
[11/3/2014 6:21:07 PM] David Zimbeck: yeah
[11/3/2014 6:21:11 PM] David Zimbeck: thats the point
[11/3/2014 6:21:16 PM] David Zimbeck: im loyal everyone knows that
[11/3/2014 6:21:34 PM] crypto.gekko: The coin will have a large development pool. As you spend time to develop into the future, that money goes to you of course.
[11/3/2014 6:21:36 PM] David Zimbeck: you get more than you pay for
[11/3/2014 6:21:45 PM] David Zimbeck: since i can help your entire team
[11/3/2014 6:21:57 PM] crypto.gekko: indeed
[11/3/2014 6:22:21 PM] crypto.gekko: So what is the best way to move forward in your opinion?
[11/3/2014 6:22:45 PM] David Zimbeck: that all depends on you guys
[11/3/2014 6:22:57 PM] David Zimbeck: you know your schedule
[11/3/2014 6:23:14 PM] David Zimbeck: I can give you guys an address
[11/3/2014 6:24:09 PM] crypto.gekko: If you have trust in Lin and Steve and you are truly interested in making BitBay your "baby". I see no reason why you sholdnt take the bull by the horns.
[11/3/2014 6:24:36 PM] crypto.gekko: Otherwise, I will need to hire multiple devs and pay them as needed. You being one of them for your technology.
[11/3/2014 6:25:00 PM] David Zimbeck: I'm already doing that
[11/3/2014 6:25:13 PM] David Zimbeck: I work on Halo every day
[11/3/2014 6:25:33 PM] crypto.gekko: I think I have a better grip on the situation now.
[11/3/2014 6:26:04 PM] David Zimbeck: Basically when I wake up, I code. Then eat and sleep.
[11/3/2014 6:26:07 PM] David Zimbeck: lmao
[11/3/2014 6:26:27 PM] David Zimbeck: i also am training devs here in cambodia
[11/3/2014 6:26:28 PM] crypto.gekko: I do the same, but basically help other coins to make their tech a reality.
[11/3/2014 6:26:36 PM] David Zimbeck: i can train any of Lin or Steves devs
[11/3/2014 6:27:04 PM] crypto.gekko: Is the cost of that included in your initial payment?
[11/3/2014 6:27:20 PM] David Zimbeck: depends on what they ask me Cheesy
[11/3/2014 6:27:31 PM] crypto.gekko: So we will need to create a contract.
[11/3/2014 6:27:45 PM] David Zimbeck: A real contract on paper?
[11/3/2014 6:27:59 PM] crypto.gekko: Digital contract or smartcontract if needed.
[11/3/2014 6:28:21 PM] crypto.gekko: The details of which I will discuss when I meet with Steve and Lin in China next week.
[11/3/2014 6:28:53 PM] David Zimbeck: Just draft a contract on paper
[11/3/2014 6:29:07 PM] crypto.gekko: Sure, I'm fine with a simple record of notary.
[11/3/2014 6:29:18 PM] David Zimbeck: most important, i dont want my name attached to the project until the btc funds
[11/3/2014 6:29:30 PM] David Zimbeck: once it funds you can use my name
[11/3/2014 6:29:38 PM] crypto.gekko: that seems more a matter of trust to me
[11/3/2014 6:29:40 PM] David Zimbeck: i just wanted to make sure my name is not used for profit
[11/3/2014 6:30:03 PM] David Zimbeck: because it could harm my reputation otherwise
1805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 09:50:49 PM
Im not abandoning it. It will get the features markets pegging etc.
1806  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 04:22:20 PM
Guys, Steven has started a thread. Now I will discussing picking up that one or starting one entirely of my own.
1807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 11:53:54 AM
NOTICE HOW THE FUD STOPS WHEN BOB IS SLEEPING?
1808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 12, 2014, 11:52:40 AM
Target of 3000 BTC was known before and you thought it was an okay target? You really think they had to raise that amount to develope the project?

Well, it seems that a lot of people thought that way, that's why they are where they are now...

Actually, yes, I DO want to see a development team sitting on that type of funds if I were to hold a large share of what they're working on. Especially if those funds are merit-based.

Making a good product isn't cheap and neither is promoting it. The biggest weakness of all coins is that they lack this type of funding. Even Bitcoin really doesn't have much on that front.

If the milestone schedule (and I really prefer the first schedule over the second one) holds up then that's a worthwhile investment. The only problem is that there's some clarity missing on this side of the deal.

Bob and Gekko mocked me when i discussed developement. Saying it was unnecessary and coins only need marketing. Then they proceed to take 50% of the dev fund

1809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
It doesn't mean I'm going to sell my share of Bay because sooner or later another so called "whale" as you say it would join in and try to pump it and I can get out during that pump.


No idiot whale will jump into this coin knowing full well that 3 people own 35% of the supply.

lmao  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If marketplace launches and it works. I for one would be more than happy to take that 35% bucket out of their hands. I have real use of Bay and I'm not here to play pnd games.

This.  You should have more than enough to live on from your part David.  I would recommend doing nothing but sleeping (sooner would probably be better than later) and then working harder than you've ever worked to not only deliver everything here and in halo... but also providing everything you've got on all parties involved.  Yes, you got extorted and threatened by lowlifes... but the lesson here is that if you aren't part of a fraud, then you can't be extorted in the first place.  If the worst that could have been trotted out against you was the fact that you were being threatened by a 'FUD squad'... a brief shakeout would have been all that resulted.  You got played, but we got played more - and although I can believe you (and possibly Steven) were 100% behind the concept... Lin appears to have been complicit in numerous aspects of fraud, from pre-ICO times - so I'm not sure the BTER side of things is gonna help anything at all.

At least we can put the ICO days behind us in crypto with this... unfortunately that basically means that there's no way to organically fund projects of this magnitude.  VC 'angels' in the real world aren't really much different from Bob and company unfortunately... especially if the venture doesn't do exactly what they say when they say it.  Sad

That is another why I took it. It wasnt like VCs were being any more reasonable. And we talked to many. Im sorry if you were misled. My intention was just to develop. I didnt sell any Bay.
1810  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 10:38:45 AM
Why everone keeps saying Bob? Who is this Bob? Is he the same as Zimbeck?

Not the same guy.  Apparently he's some 'altcoin expert' (which I hadn't ever heard of until this thread either).  Learn something new every day on BCT... but usually not something you wanted to know. Wink

Lol.

I am surprised they trusted a group of people hiding their identioties with large amounts of BTC. At the end they learn a valuable lesson and will help them not make the same mistake twice.

Yeah but lots of anon coins made it. Most devs and coins are anon. That shouldnt matter. Even coins with worse distribution sometimes do even better.
1811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 10:37:41 AM
Whatever you guys want. I'm more than willing to keep developing for this coin Steven and Lin also want to. Regardless of the image. Its one of those take it or leave it sort of things.
1812  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 10:09:56 AM
new waves of fudding?

No man what your hearing now is the truth. There was nothing, and I emphasise NOTHING natural about the way this coin started tanking.


Thats why I wanted to peg it so badly. Once I say what was really going on. It was the only way i could think of and besides, its innovative.
1813  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 10:08:49 AM
The market team was unfortunately Bob who thinks fake bitcointalk profiles and pumping is the same as marketing. And he dumped his coins anyways.
1814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 10:07:33 AM
There WAS Steven has them. I dont know the extent but you can ask him. I'm willing to dev but this right here. The there was Bob and Gekko (Ryan)

There was Steven and Lin. And then there was me. Mostly due to threats of extortion this info was not revealed. Steven wanted them to leave quietly.

So, is there any Alibaba contacts or not? or was it just made up to lure investors?

Everyone seems to be telling their own side of story and I can't seem to get anything real out of it.

I could careless if price hits 1 sat since that's not my interest. I wanna use the god damn market and smart contracts to sell stuff. One thing I'm really interested in is whether the roadmap will be followed? If you're telling me that Stevens, Bob, Lin & David are the only people associated with this coin then I think all hopes are lost and I refuse to believe that you can do anything to change it. If there is marketing team, HR, Alibaba contacts as it was said in the beginning then there is still hope alive. It doesn't mean I'm going to sell my share of Bay because sooner or later another whale would join in and try to pump it and I can get out during that pump. It just means that I won't be buying anymore until I see this thing working like Ebay is.

If anyone has an answer to it please respond.

Who is "BitBay Team"?

How many people are working on this project?

I would only accept answers of people I know can be trusted. FUDDERS don't even quote this because as much as you like fudding I'm not really interested in your perspective and what you have to say about it.


1815  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 08:37:05 AM
Wow.  Ok, well, glad I got out of this one early.  Bitcoin... here I come!  Thank you sociopaths of the alt market.  You've inspired me to invest only in Bitcoin.  Oh, and maybe Ripple.  No doubt Blackcoin will take a beating from this drama as well.  Enjoy.
Well, price wise nothing that David did had (for whatever reason) any positive effect on BC/BLK (which is likely why he ended up here).
So why would BC take a beating here? The dumpers and the chinese daytraders are dragging the price down for like half a year now anyways.

Anyone who lost money in Bay deserves it, by the way. Buying in an ICO when you don't know who is behind it and with a 1:1 copy of Blackcoin - how dumb can you be?

Yeah because most likely there was someone or a group who owned 50% of Blackcoin. The problem did not necessarily have to be the tech. You never found the selling to be suspicious? What about the multipool price rise? What the hell was that?
1816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 08:23:37 AM
boys, boys, boys, I am stoned as tits right now. I really don't have time to look into all this shit because I got to go to bed soon, plus its pretty difficult at the moment so if someone gave me a paragraph unbiased tldr version id love them unconditionally forever

k thanks bye <3

Bitbay was just a scam coin all along, maybe the scam coin to end all scam coins. The dev is trying hard to keep his name clean so he can someday release shitcoin 3.0 that will go to 1 sat like the two he created before.

you wish, you have yet to say a single thing about Bob
1817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 08:22:23 AM
we only want to konw if the dev would keep working

OF COURSE I WILL. This is a pathetic attempt at PAID defamation/cyberbullying which i can prove and even bring lawsuit. I have admissions from Bob and Ryan(Gekko) that they would do exactly this. So ALL accounts are schill and paid for. If that was not already obvious with the speed in which they reacted when i said Bob and Ryan extorted from BitBay.

GO TO SLEEP.... TOMORROW THE OTHER SHOE WILL FALL! YOU'LL NEED YOUR REST!!

You still keeping 619 BTC of investors money?
1818  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 08:19:14 AM
we only want to konw if the dev would keep working

OF COURSE I WILL. This is a pathetic attempt at PAID defamation/cyberbullying which i can prove and even bring lawsuit. I have admissions from Bob and Ryan(Gekko) that they would do exactly this. So ALL accounts are schill and paid for. If that was not already obvious with the speed in which they reacted when i said Bob and Ryan extorted from BitBay.
1819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 12, 2014, 08:15:34 AM
shouldn't that be 'Brown Halo' ?

It sure looks brown, doesn't it?

I only took the deal that was offered to me by Steven and you just claim something wrong was done.

I didnt know who Bob was. And the funny thing is, you asked me to discuss the project and this is how you react.
1820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 08:03:37 AM
Mind you, i did not plan any one this horrible ICO. I was asked to do the project, Bob and Gekko came with Steven but Steven did not realize how bad they were.

I dont think Steven made the best choices but the fact that people avoid speaking of Bob and Gekko tells anyone here immediately whats going on.
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