This was just sent to me. Its interesting. What do you guys think of the "bronze" package?
http://99designs.com/pricing

Everyone, this was submitted in Trello a while ago too. Would like to share these logos here:
https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/546c685d137b47cfb2309f7b/2000x1043/959c4dac78db7640f26c88f494d342a8/BitBay-Logo.png

Hey there, I agree with what you are saying also. However keeping the community engaged is also nice. We will award winners regardless of if the logo gets used or not. With that said, if you know any professional designers im more than happy to meet with them. Youve gotta realize, I'm on a brutal deadline now. So I've got very limited time to manage every minor project. If im not coding, I'm eating networking or sleeping. We've got a dev fund and some BitBay also I'm ok with paying out of pocket a bit too. So management/secure a good project manager is the bigger challenge than actually just shelling out coins.

Actually, I used to do professional design from editing to commercials and graphics. But of course time is a concern. A good project manager is needed. And just because there are funds, budgeting is critical. There is no right answer to correct budgeting. It takes someone with excellent foresight and business acumen to budget properly.

So yeah, im looking for a supercoder, project manager and some people to step up to do these engaging community bounties. Just relax, let everyone enjoy the competition. We will pick winners regardless of if the logo gets used or not. We can always change the logo and if anyone knows a pro designer, I'm more than happy to look at his resume/work etc.

Everyone knows my original intention was to be project manager. However now, I've got many different things to work on in the code and it will be months before i can relax. I can give as much time as possible to work on project management but it comes second to coding.

Haha very reminiscent of Ebay. The only thing is, we need the logos symbol to fit within a circle on a coin so it can be used on coinmarketcap.com etc

Actually I think some of the logos were pretty interesting. There is one other I got sent via email or on Trello I should look for it and post it here too.

i know why imgur is blocked at my location... can see them in Tor

yeah for sure, please move to the new thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890531

and also reddit.com/r/bitbay

all of the updates are there. The community is working on slack and ive got an updated client coming shortly.

hey is there a reason images arent showing for me on bitcointalk

I do like the logo, someone sent me one a while ago which was also nice. If we get some submissions it might be interesting to see. But actually, there is a bunch of things on Trello AND we just synchronized the Trello with Slack! So maybe we can bring some people there too. We can do more bounties too. I think its a good way to keep people involved.

Should we change it to say "BitBay Official" instead? My partner who runs my twitter may have some advice on it. We can perhaps pay to market it a little bit.
Who runs the twitter? Can you add me on skype?

This was a great idea Steve, this kind of thing can not only help us disperse our Bitbay more evenly, but it can spark some community interest.

Damn! Nice bounty! Thats really a great way to distribute our sacks of BitBay. Lets do this so we can hit every milestone on Trello. 

Well I can do it manually. And my friend tells me I can actually do python inside of c++. There is also cython. So there are 3 options. I'm going to do it in traditional c++ when I finish unless I find a really strong dev who wants to do it.

I'm talking to a "superdev" right now but I'm not sure if he will do it fast enough. But I'm doing markets first so we have a little time.

Its very easy you have a vote on increase or decrease of interest every 500 or so blocks.

They vote by paying to a voting address 5500 satoshis(the network minimum) perhaps one vote per address. It can for example be calculated based on balance of the sender like staking. Then the small 5500 satoshi votes are added up, they have the vote in the script or 3 different addresses are used.

The increase and decrease in interest for example can be like .1% for every 500 blocks. Obviously this can compound really fast so even that can be too high

so its +.1%
or     -.1%
or     even/not enough votes

checklocktimeverify also allows parking as an elective to tighten supply more and it means i can do Halo escrows in one beautiful TX

On a protocol level I have been deliberating over a few ways to do it. Basically, you make the first rule a mining rule that makes it so transactions before the fork are all conditionally frozen to spend X% of the input.

Then the transaction is tagged much in the way a colored coin is tagged.

So, you can use checklocktimeverify to freeze the funds as a requirement, although i think that is overengineering it maybe.

Possible other ways are to tag it with a required script with a special meaning in OP_RETURN

another way is to require a script in the transaction that would be redundant, but meaningful to miners and require it in order to color the coin.

Shit, you can even burn an encoded coin as a requirement.

Then, you make the miners require you pay X% back to yourself as change and freeze it in the input (if it is deflation)
Or, you allow spending X% of the frozen input to any external address to be marked as liquid (inflation)

Also, any coins that stake must be forced to either freeze or include a script.

Then you can set a hard % from the fork. Lets say 10% of the supply becomes liquid. So 100 million liquid coins.
Any input before block X can only spend 10% in this example.

Then, in order to set the network variables we have two options and im leaning towards voting.

You set it so, simply pay coins to a voting address which gets counted every X blocks. Its possible to give a "master key" by letting one vote count for more. Or just make it purely democratic.

That vote determines if we are inflating or deflating.

Now, in order to peg, we just need to make sure the inflating and delfating amouns match the market price. However, i do like the idea of growing the coins value. So maybe we can just vote on deflating slowly for a while so the price can rise and put a buy wall below it. Its really up to you guys. Since there is a few people with a lot of coins, ironically it can keep a lot of coins off market too which i think is actually nice in the beginning.

miners would have to count votes and keep track of the rates for all the blocks. so the miners properly enfore the mandatory scripts.

Yeah im not using trading bots its purely control over supply and demand. And most likely a buywall. There will probably not be a sell wall because I dont believe in custodial wallets although we can discuss it after the fork.

I think you are misunderstand the wallet peg. Because python is high level language, its easy to prove the concept in the wallet. The wallet can read the scripts the same way miners do. But it is not at all what i will be releasing. Think of it like a "testnet"... where we dont need to fork to try out new rules.

Then after im sure there is no way to use checklocktimeverify to hack your way out of having assets frozen or liquid, i can make it a hard coded rule.

As for the c++ implementation. I can use the same libraries for scripting in c++. Also, I use daemons to communicate (aka blackcoind bitbayd) so those RPC calls refer to libraries in the program itself.

Also, I do have some c++ experience granted years ago when i was in my teens. I'm self taught Python and from everything I've learned, reading the bitcoin source isn't too hard.

But yeah having a c++ guy on board would be nice. Its not needed. When I set out to do something, I do it. That is how Halo got built. I was determined and did lots of hard work.

With that said I'm in discussions with a guy who thinks he can port my python to c++ as a hard coded mining rule. My guys went out and looked for devs but so many of them are wishy washy. So I'm going to code everything I have to get to our milestones and go from there.

As for the "email tipping" update, its because I'm doing a major BitHalo release with a new UI. So this is basically the last few features that are not markets. So email tipping, sending to multiple simultaneous addresses (useful for joint accouns and tipping), automatic signing of joint payments (really useful for hackproof wallets), first time user wizard (completely needed for everyone who is new to Halo to set up email, wallets, everything)

When thats done, I can finish the markets. Bitmessage is already in the client so to get the markets coded its mostly very UI and template heavy. And i can give periodic updates.

If you want, i can explain in depth how the pegging is done from a scripting perspective.

Absolutely there is. But its such a highly controversial thing to do. For example, do you remember when Vericoin rolled back the blockchain?! Lots of people said it went against everything crypto is about.

On the other hand this is a totally different situation. I personally do not care if my Bay is stripped since it was simply part of Steves offer. When it was offered i thought they would buy it with real bitcoins and those bitcoins would also go to development. Obviously that isnt what happened. And I think Bob dumped most of his coins. But there really is no telling if he or anyone from his group rebought. And since its so much further down the blockchain, I don't think we can know what anyone has anymore.

Doing it in the wallet i can force transaction scripts. Its just to prove the concept and then i bring those scripts into c++ as mining rules. Take a look at NuBits and BitUSD all variations on similar themes. The rules will control supply to reflect demand. Lots of people wanted this to be a peg that grows and moves so perhaps we add voting to allow the users to influence market conditions and have a default if no vote is casted.

Basically the rules allow deflation and inflation.

I was hired as a developer(and still doing the task I was hired to do), there is no law that was broken. Also, your chat history has only been about me. (what a shock) you only have been in contact with Bob and Ryan. You mean the guys that created and pumped the project, got a rebate and abandoned it? Yes add to boot defamation, brand damage extortion, threats etc. You really need to get a life.