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1761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 04:53:14 PM
/lurkmode off

One thing I noticed in the logs was when Bob asked dzimbeck to PM a guy, who didn't want to spend his car repair money on coins, to suck him in. dzimbeck refused (to put his name on that move) and told bob to use the bitbay account. I also notice after that post in the bitbay thread shills? trying to couch the mark into the scam with dreams of profits.

Look into that all you want guys but I think it tells alot.

/lurkmode on

Bob changed the password on the "official thread" according to his friend Tor. I'm going to assume that was the truth.

So the obvious attempt lacks any sophistication.

I'm not going to babysit this anymore. Adios.
1762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
THIS THREAD IS AWESOME LMAO!! OMG I never knew such a think existed. AltcoinUK you are awesome. And according to this thread im 5 ft tall?

"5 ft tall David Zimbeck"

Lol where do you get this information? I'm 5' 11. lol...

And you realize I was paid to incorporate Halo in Bitbay right? That is all this was. Nothing more, nothing less. These absolute hilarious accusations here are really all coming from one person. And my guess is, you are a very jealous bagholder from BC. Or maybe just some crazy guy. (Or maybe Bitbay paid you to act like this, who the heck knows)

What is the things you guys say here about Russian mobs and Cambodia and scams and craziness. I'm in Cambodia, lived in Mexico, Los Angeles. I'm not hard to find. Call me in for a meeting, I'll be there   Cheesy

Let me make this simple for you.

I was working on Halo, i was approached by a group of guys. They offered me funds to license my tech, I took the deal. They paid in advance. Then they run and ICO with BTER. They raise money, you complain. End of story. Any details beyond this you can take it up with them.

Also, I'm forced to manage this project. They asked me for good ideas for features, I felt this was a good environment for practicing hedging. Stated many times we are going to target RMB/USD price like Nubits. We can do this by restricting supply. The question is what our target price is and how much supply we want to restrict. You can read NuBits whitepaper and look at my video.

Coding takes time, not sure you ever tried it but maybe you should put yourself in my shoes and then you may read over this thread again and question your own judgement.

I'm more than willing to protect the privacy of the people that hired me because they asked me to. Its not complex, its called honoring your word. You would do the same.

As for the funds, they control that. There is a dev fund, its smaller than i would have liked it to be but I'm happy, will work with it.

What happens if they sell? Well thats the risk we all take. Thats the nature of penny stocks. The analogy is this: A penny stock pays me for a license, i took it, people "invest" and take a risk with it. Thats their choice.

Want to be a real investor? Go to wall street invest in Apple. Want to be a self proclaimed investor? Come to crypto and gamble. Nobody can stop whales from buying up new coins. Nor can they stop people from mining 90% of a coin (look at Fuelcoin for example)

How do we know Blackcoin wasnt 50% ninja mined? Is there really any proof it wasnt? And what about Bitcoin? How do we know. Maybe someone sits on billions of dollars. There is not a way of knowing. So I think you need to relax, and maybe take a breath of fresh air and realize I'm just working. Don't start throwing around your ideas without any basis in reality.

Instead of talking behind my back. I invite you to call me on the phone and talk to me like a man. Instead of this nonsense.

I'm a bit busy to log on to bitcointalk all the time but PM me your number. I'm more than happy to discuss openly whatever you wanna know.

OK David. We discussed this in a civil and calm private dialogue, there is no reason to continue this here, except, if you are not one of the scammers who pushed the ICO to 3000 BTC which I believe you are not, if you are just a contractor as you said you are, please make clear to the investors of Bitbay that you have no control over the spending of the 3000 BTC whatsoever as well as please acknowledge publicly as well that there are many-many worrying and unclear elements in the operation of Bitbay.

Since we both know, in fact all rational person knows that the 3000 BTC was achieved by a desperate buy in from the Bitbay team and the full 3000 BTC is not the result of a legit, free market investment process, you should be clear about this publicly as well.

 

AltcoinUK thank you for this from the bottom of my heart. I'm going to do an official announcement please be patient for me and let me prepare it. I was dealing with absolute crazy amounts of bullshit. I'm going to simply publish what i can without turning this into 4chan. It takes a tremendous amount of patience for me to deal with paid FUD. Now you know one of the billions of reasons i was quiet.

....AND i found out this isnt the first coin they have done this to. Threats etc. Ive been reached out to, given all the personal info on them needed to pass along to my contacts. They arent very good at hiding apparently. Cockroaches hide AltcoinUK. Not me. I'm a public figure. Not afraid of the light.
1763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 04:43:34 PM
The iframe security vulnerability in the latest Bay wallet has now been public for four days. You say you do not know how it got there. Have you taken any steps at all in the past four days to hire a professional coder who can fix it?

The vulnerability isnt in the iframe Ryan, it was on my FTP server. I've changed the password, removed wordpress and removed a dubious script. Will monitor it from here and change it out when i have time (I'm not going to babysit)

Also, ive got lots of info on you including from other coins and friends so just stay away, move along. Live your life.

An official goodbye.
1764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 04:40:56 PM
Sadly you got scammed by zimbeck he cloned bitbay and Blackhalo from bitXbay. Their website http://bitxbay.ws/ their github https://github.com/bitxbay/BitXBay which was made jun 9th. the git hub doesnt lie. thier web web site details smart contracts and thus BlackHalo. ITs a clear rip of that other coin. He coded nothing. Don't fall for this scam. this mixed with scam Bter. Why the fuck would anyone touch this coin?

Just a reminder to everyone: While Zimbeck can copy/paste, he CANT code. He just doesn't know how to code. Not C, not C++ AND JUST A TINY BIT OF pYTHON. hE CANNOT PROVIDE any TECH AT ALL. This piece of shit individual, is a cancer in crypto. So are Steven and Lin. And of course Bob and Ryan, who are in full self destruct mode... but that's another (developing) story.

This is my last comment before making official statement not to waste my time with any more paid disinformation.

Lots of noob accounts posting now. If Ryan and Bob want to clear their names, they will simply go public instead of deleting their facebooks (and yes there is more info on you).

Adios.
1765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 04:27:46 PM
What makes the posts more funny is how unintelligent they are. Diabolic? Manipulator? Nice choice of names captain obvious.


 Roll Eyes

I'm not sure there is a point in bothering with this thread.

Damn it, you got me all figured out. I'm Ryan Gentle / Ryan Kennedy / Ryan Wright / Just another reason for you to keep dodging the real answers. You couldn't be more right Zimbeck, I have a feeling this is only the beginning.

By the way, several crypto currency lawyers are already looking into you and your "team". Heard of MintPal?

Yeah sure im happy to show them chat logs. Send me the lawyers and Ryan and Bob can go to jail. Wonderful.

I'm still working on BitBay so will be honoring my agreement. Not much left to say. This thread is a disgrace and a toxic wasteland. Will be doing a full statement momentarily. Wayback engine/Facebook themselves can get Ryans facebook profile in a case like this. By the way. And Bobs new home and IP address were already leaked, released. Ryan be careful man. Just stop and move on with your life. I have had other people give me more info on you already. You too Bob just move on. Enjoy the holidays, bugger off.
1766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 04:24:08 PM
David stole the code from here:

[Suspicious link removed]/

Looks like Ryan got doxxed:

http://www.192.com/atoz/people/wright/ryan/s26/4027022430/

"Crypto-Steve" in all the chat logs is now " BitBay Dev" in the the new thread.

Can this get any more sleazy?Huh


Suspicious link removed... lol. Thats not Ryan. He was from California and lives in Taipei Taiwan. Dont hide buddy thats what bugs do.

Give your coins back Ryan
1767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 03:59:54 PM
There is no point in bothering with bitbay any more either lol... Everyone knows you are just puppet with the strings being pulled now.

thats not true, im getting BTC into a joint account and doing what i can.
1768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 03:47:27 PM
Yep that was a funny attempt for Gekko to hide. Annndd..... he deleted his FB. Wow.
1769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 03:34:24 PM
What makes the posts more funny is how unintelligent they are. Diabolic? Manipulator? Nice choice of names captain obvious.


 Roll Eyes

I'm not sure there is a point in bothering with this thread.
1770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 03:24:57 PM
The Plot Thickens:

Zimbeck claims to be the new leader of Bay. Claims he and the chinese mobsters are going to take Bay into the future. Meanwhile one of the new chinese mafia schills from the new "offficial thread"  - -- M28MmickT ---- comes here and claims that "Ryan" is this guy:

https://twitter.com/RyanPWright

The level of backstabbing and deception here is mind boggling.

Not much to it. He did all those things. He has Lin and Steven (the chinese guys from Bter) in his pocket. For fucks sake they created a coin ran it on Bter and bought a lot of its own ICO to defraud Bter's investers. This isn't a lie. It's a proven and admitted fact by Zimbeck and crew.  What kind of cheese are you guys smoking to not get that?


Also he claim he created Black Halo. Well read this coins page from August? Before Black Halo and Bitbay. http://bitxbay.ws/ It's called BitXbay yes notice the X in it. It's not this bitbay. It is a coin that they robbbed of "smart contracts" and the over all premise of this bitbay coin down to it's name. BitXbay is a coin project Zimbeck robbed blind of it's created tech and called his own. No credit to it as it is open source and you should site it if you use part or in this completely CLONE it. Yeah all that makes me what to invest more btc than I already wasted on this shit. Wake up people.  Roll Eyes


That is a stupid accusation that of course is totally untrue. This thread is a joke. Full of n00b accounts. BitHalo came out may 29th the source is in one file I can post obfuscated source proving this obvious deliberately fabricated stupidity to be ridiculous. Private emails with rat4 and noerc and 100s of others.
Reddit posts, dont make me laugh.

Everything said from here is toxic waste. (and obvious)
1771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 03:16:35 PM
I just posted link to new thread and BOB deleted it. So, I'll post again and I know it'll get deleted again.

New THREAD:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890531.80

Dont remove this. I'm backing this up.
1772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 03:12:09 PM
I was out few days and don't have time to read 40+ pages today.

anyone can write me in few words what's going on? Please:)

BayScam?  Grin

Bingo.  
The guys David was partnered with were in on it from the beginning.
Depending on which version you believe (or guess at), David either:
A) Found out it was crap early on and hid it from investors.
B) Knew it was crap from the beginning but needed money.
C) Was completely clueless about the whole thing until the ICO but believed he could save it somehow.
D) Was the mastermind behind the whole thing.
BTER was most likely involved in buying BAY with BTC that didn't even exist during IPO.
Bob & Gekko (Ryan) took them for a crapload of both BTC and BAY... then dumped the latter.
Steven, David (and probably Lin too why not) have between 30-50% of the BAY and between 30-50% of the BTC - waiting on addresses for this if it happens.

And the price has come back nearly 30% from the shakeout... and has had decent buy support despite nothing but drama and 2 additional threads being spawned.   Roll Eyes

Probably missed some stuff, but basically is SNAFU in crypto land again.  Undecided

I will state the chronology of events and i can back it up if need be:

(Chronological order)
Steven approaches me for a coin. Promises literally everything discussed. I question him hard core to make sure it was legitimate. Proceeded with caution.
Gekko(Ryan) Bob come in a few days before the PreANN asking me to take a slightly larger share and they would bring in a team and pay devs (similar to what Steve said)
I had a long talk with Ryan grilling him on many questions. He assured me it was not a pump, that they would pay DEVs, get a staff, not use me for my name.
Steven says its OK they will not release my name until the ICO goes through an it is honest
Then Ryan immediately betrays what Steven said and plasters my name all over it
I get upset, discuss my anger with Steven and Bob, they both claim its "Ok" and Gekko got excited
Now i get chewed out by BC. BUT a deposit on my work was made (25 BTC)
I explain to BC the pros and cons. Most of them defend me, some didnt (take the good with the bad be a man)
I advance with exreme caution. Deposit was already made.
They start the ICO and all hell breaks loose.
I decided to defend them would be to equally defend investors(defend everyone). They promise they will not dump their coins (like broken records)
My hand was forced, i had to advance.

The rest as they say is history.

I really dont want to beat this issue to death. Let me prepare a public statement and try to figure out this paradox. I'm interested only in protecting investors at this point and doing the work that i was asked to do. Im transparent everyone knows that and willing to take the good with the bad and roll with the punches.

Anything you hear from this point forward on forums is beating the issue. Bitcointalk has degraded since its early days. This is why i avoid this forum unless required to.

Any positive ideas investors may take place on the other thread. If investors want to help protect this one, it will be helpful.

For anyone who reads Zimbecks post above:

Zimbeck knew all the facts from the start, was 1/5, partner in the ICO, received massive amounts of BTC and BAY from BTer for his role in this sorry mess.

Zimbeck knew from the start that Bob Surplus was in on the deal and 1/5 partner.

Zimbeck hid his knowledge of all these facts - including the massive fraud in BTer - from both the Black Coin community and the Bay Community the entire time - until the house of cards came tumbling down.

Zimbeck is now scurrying from reddit to BTCT trying to convince everyone that he was an innocent victim in all this, and point the finger at Notorius Bob.

Zinbeck is currently doing nothing to help reveal the BTer fraud. In fact, quite the opposite - the chinese mafia figures who were behind the scam are the new thread moderators at the "new, official BAY thread".  Which Zimbeck is now promoting.

Bob has not dumped his coins. A look at the charts will tell you this. David, Bob, and the chinese mafia can dump bay on the market anytime. Bay is now a magic piggy bank for the con artists that started it - as long as they can keep people believing. For this they need a front man? Who is that?  You guessed it.

Zimbeck can tell "his version" of this sad mess until the cows come home. It will not change the facts.





Elanor rigby. Give your full name identity and address and then people will believe you arent bob or gekko. If bob and ryan want to clear their names then they can refund their BTC 191+191+500.
1773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 03:07:30 PM
The Plot Thickens:

Zimbeck claims to be the new leader of Bay. Claims he and the chinese mobsters are going to take Bay into the future.

Meanwhile one of the new chinese mafia schills from the new "offficial thread"  - -- M28MmickT ---- goes into the "official Bay Fud Thread"  and claims that this guy:

https://twitter.com/RyanPWright

Is Bob's partner.

The level of backstabbing and deception here is mind boggling.


NICE TRY HAHAHAHAHHAA WOW. I CANT BELIEVE GEKKO WOULD POST THIS. ELANOR RIGBY IS GEKKO. lol omg.


Fantastic.

AND THIS THIS THE REAL RYAN WRIGHT.
https://www.facebook.com/ryanwrights?fref=ts
1774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 02:59:34 PM
Thanks for another reply.

I think Bay should be removed from all bittrex and bter, destroyed and just R.I.P.

That doesnt protect investors either though. Bob sold his coins and so did Ryan.

Its a paradox indeed. Maybe i just peg the damn coin.

Other ideas are a 1:1 exchange.

I would really like to see if the pegging works. But who would buy the coin for 1$ if you have pegged it?

Answering a few questions here:

Come back to BC:
I NEVER left. This mess im cleaning up. NT microtrader is on the agenda. Josh knows i was planning a big release. The microtrader is almost ready but coin daemons and markets have suffered a delay. It happens i can do an official statement. Halos next release is on the way and its a very big one. We got approved for some new articles. Its lovely.

People sold BC to buy BitBay:  
I told them not to until they proved themselves. I was talking privately about what was going on for a while. Once the sirens went off I was scrambling to peg and get a bigger team. Nobody should sell BC ever. They should buy it. One of the biggest BC bulls out there.

The 1$ Peg:
Its a goal. The buy wall needs to be high enough OR the supply needs to be small (like .1% liquid maybe?). My statements in this thread were to make it a moving peg. Lets start small and grow to that goal.

Am I going to take a bigger role in BitBay now?:
I'm going to do clean up like a janitor. However, im not a genie, i cant control the price before the peg. Its anyones guess now who is going to mop up the coins.

Im still very much a BC man. My hat goes off to rat4. Hes great(a real developer  Grin ). I hope all the big BC holders are out and the coin is distributed.

The two coins have similar goals they coincide. November NT deadline should have been pushed back a bit. I was grabbing low hanging fruit on my dev work. A minor setback lets hope there arent any more of those.

Like a plant we grow it. Patience. Plants dont just spring out of the ground and walk away they need water attention and time.

1775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 02:50:15 PM
The Plot Thickens:

Zimbeck claims to be the new leader of Bay. Claims he and the chinese mobsters are going to take Bay into the future.

Meanwhile one of the new chinese mafia schills from the new "offficial thread"  - -- M28MmickT ---- goes into the "official Bay Fud Thread"  and claims that this guy:

https://twitter.com/RyanPWright

Is Bob's partner.

The level of backstabbing and deception here is mind boggling.

Wait for my statement. i'm only doing what is in my power to do.
1776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
Thanks for another reply.

I think Bay should be removed from all bittrex and bter, destroyed and just R.I.P.

That doesnt protect investors either though. Bob sold his coins and so did Ryan.

Its a paradox indeed. Maybe i just peg the damn coin.

Other ideas are a 1:1 exchange.
1777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 01:27:04 PM
Zimbeck constantly passing the buck while refusing to give solid numbers admits that the scheme is his own grand chess game and only further cements his guilt and deception. His accountability is the deepest of all. Remember, whenever you point your finger, there are four more pointing right back at you.

Zimbeck wanted payment on btc before he even started posting, he wants money more than giving a fuck about investors who believed in him. That's why he continues to avoid the real answers.

Since you are 99% probably Ryan, im going talk to you like you are in fact Ryan.

I'm going to post my addresses. Including original ICO numbers. And make an official statement.
1778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 01:01:44 PM
I was out few days and don't have time to read 40+ pages today.

anyone can write me in few words what's going on? Please:)

BayScam?  Grin

Bingo.  
The guys David was partnered with were in on it from the beginning.
Depending on which version you believe (or guess at), David either:
A) Found out it was crap early on and hid it from investors.
B) Knew it was crap from the beginning but needed money.
C) Was completely clueless about the whole thing until the ICO but believed he could save it somehow.
D) Was the mastermind behind the whole thing.
BTER was most likely involved in buying BAY with BTC that didn't even exist during IPO.
Bob & Gekko (Ryan) took them for a crapload of both BTC and BAY... then dumped the latter.
Steven, David (and probably Lin too why not) have between 30-50% of the BAY and between 30-50% of the BTC - waiting on addresses for this if it happens.

And the price has come back nearly 30% from the shakeout... and has had decent buy support despite nothing but drama and 2 additional threads being spawned.   Roll Eyes

Probably missed some stuff, but basically is SNAFU in crypto land again.  Undecided

I will state the chronology of events and i can back it up if need be:

(Chronological order)
Steven approaches me for a coin. Promises literally everything discussed. I question him hard core to make sure it was legitimate. Proceeded with caution.
Gekko(Ryan) Bob come in a few days before the PreANN asking me to take a slightly larger share and they would bring in a team and pay devs (similar to what Steve said)
I had a long talk with Ryan grilling him on many questions. He assured me it was not a pump, that they would pay DEVs, get a staff, not use me for my name.
Steven says its OK they will not release my name until the ICO goes through an it is honest
Then Ryan immediately betrays what Steven said and plasters my name all over it
I get upset, discuss my anger with Steven and Bob, they both claim its "Ok" and Gekko got excited
Now i get chewed out by BC. BUT a deposit on my work was made (25 BTC)
I explain to BC the pros and cons. Most of them defend me, some didnt (take the good with the bad be a man)
I advance with exreme caution. Deposit was already made.
They start the ICO and all hell breaks loose.
I decided to defend them would be to equally defend investors(defend everyone). They promise they will not dump their coins (like broken records)
My hand was forced, i had to advance.

The rest as they say is history.

I really dont want to beat this issue to death. Let me prepare a public statement and try to figure out this paradox. I'm interested only in protecting investors at this point and doing the work that i was asked to do. Im transparent everyone knows that and willing to take the good with the bad and roll with the punches.

Anything you hear from this point forward on forums is beating the issue. Bitcointalk has degraded since its early days. This is why i avoid this forum unless required to.

Any positive ideas investors may take place on the other thread. If investors want to help protect this one, it will be helpful.
1779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 12:13:43 PM
Just chiming in to say if my posts earlier were acknowledged you would have avoided this obvious scam. It comes down to the same thing over and over, that "developers" advertise wallet features without doing nothing to the protocol. We wrote about it here: https://blackwavelabs.com

If everyone starts understanding the distinctions it will be hard to keep pulling this scam over and over again.


Youve got some nerve blackwavelabs. You sent me a personal email approving of me and DENIED what you wrote in there had anything to do with me even when i openly questioned you about it. Want me to link to that too? So you should not be shooting you or your exchange in the foot. I asked to collaborate with you about 100 times through personal email and you generally ignored it. It was in both of our best interest to work together. There NEEDS to be software developement. How can you deny that? Thats what crypto is lacking. They dont need another damn centralized exchange to make your BC bag bigger. They need a decentralized exchange. Oh and you do in fact have a MUCh larger stake in BTC than me. You should support me.

Oh and I did want to add to the protocol. PEGGING.

The world needs software and every public statement you make that ignores that, contradicts itself. You are basically saying that the car needs and engine but no wheels or body.
1780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THOSE BAY FAQs... on: December 13, 2014, 10:23:06 AM
First impression?? Man you dont know my history  Cheesy


I was on Blackcoin subreddit for a year, never sold a single Blackcoin (i hold 400K), made them software for free, traveled to conferences and promoted them.

BitHalo came before Blackhalo and so did my Blackcoin investment come later


And when i made BitHalo in May, it was the worlds first smart contracting software, worlds first multisig software, first multicoin software etc. I busted my ass to make it in the -50 degree wether in North Dakota because I wanted to make the world a better place(yes, that was the reason).

It had absolutely nothing to do with money. If you look on BC subreddit you will see my rep was absolutely perfect.
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