Great read. My opinion: "The Market Capitalization of Silver is currently arround $1.504 T" https://companiesmarketcap.com/silver/marketcap/The Market Capitalization of Apple is currently $2.12 T https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AAPL/Does that mean that Apple is better metal than Silver? Or silver is worse company than Apple? No they are both completely different asset class. Is ETH flippening possible? It is. It is even possible that single ETH token will one day overtake BTC if this token will be represented by huge company (if one day ETH token will have similar legal rights as stock shares) Does that mean that ETH (or this asset) will be better than bitcoin? No. It will be a different asset. ETH at 150 000$ and 100 GAS price will take 10k$ for transfer ... ETH will sooner or later give up on decentralization for favour of TPS. If ETH wont do that people will move to BSC or other semi-centralized chains with all devs and money (BSC is now 7x bigger than ETH in terms of TX per day) making ETH a relict of pass times. If ETH will give up on decentralization than BTC will remain a big player as one and only crypto store of value (crypto gold). Will it be the biggest player in whole crypto industry forever? Most likely not. Will ETH overtake BTC in long run (not pump and dump one day event)? It is possible but it is also possible for DOT, BNB and many more. BTW. Isn't it a tradition of crypto bull runs that we talk about flippening in the middle of bitcoin bubble ?  I remember the same when BTC was around 3k$. We had ETH/BTC flippening FUD and BCH/BTC flippeniung FUD in 2017 as I remember correct. |
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Is it fair to say: there is a demographic in the world that hates new inventions.
They hate new inventions like electric cars and space x rockets. They also hate new inventions like bitcoin.
This demographic hates tesla stock. They tried for years to kill tesla stock through short selling.
A new plot twist has arisen where Elon Musk sided with those who hate new inventions to topple the credibility of bitcoin.
A famous inventor allying himself with a demographic that hates new inventions. I wonder how this relationship will pan out.
1- Its not that people who short tesla hate new investions. Its not that poeple who short tesla wants to kill it. People who short tesla are old enough to be part of multiple mania, multiple bubbles to know that something is extreamly overvaluated and its market value is based on dreams instead of hard data. When you want to make money ... you dont make financial decisions based on love/hate. 2- Tesla is not the only car campany that produce electic cars. Sooner or later every one will do that. Tesla will have a lot of competitors @ilovealtcoins - always a +merit form me for Livermore's charts |
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So for example. You have a 3R trade. (3Gain -1lose)
What happens if instead of taking 100% profit at the target of '3' gain.
Its 0,25 *2R + 0,75 *3R = 2,75R But if you have multiple take profit levels, say: TP1 -15%, TP2-25%, TP3-40% e.t.c e.t.c
Then how do you calculate this? in terms of R?
0.15 * TP1 + 0,25*TP2 + 0,4 *TP3 + ... So for example if you bought 1 BTC at 50k $ with TP1 at 51k - 15% TP2 at 52k -25% TP3 at 53k - 40% TP4 at 54k - 30% We go for: 0,15 * 1000 + 0,25 * 2000 + 0,4* 3000 + 0,3*4000 = 3150$ - Reward from your trade if fully succed. |
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Not sure if you're serious here or being a troll, but do you really think it's a safe investment just because it has "safe" in it's name? I could literally create a crappy cryptocurrency right now named "best crypto investment"; would that automatically mean that it's a great investment?
Looks like we are back in 2017. The end of alt seazon is here if we see topics like that... @OP: Don't you dare to invest in anything with knowledge you have. You will lose all your money. We are currently at the top (or very close to top) of alt seazon. We observe massive vlolatility. With every day we are closer and closer to end of it. Every altcoin will dump 80-99.9%. You will be left with 20-400$ out of your 20k$ !Here is what you should do:
Good time for investment was in 2018-2020. Good time for investment will be in 2023-2025. Until then newbie should do 2 things. Save as much money for 2023-2025 and observe how bubble is forming and how its crashing. To try to learn those emotions. FOMO all around the place. To know what to do with his investments when new bubble will start. When to cash out ... when every other is screaming "moon" "We are going to 500$ with this shitcoin". He will know that its the best time to grab his money out because he will know what bear market will do with all those lambo investors few weeks after.
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The longer i think about it the more convinced I am that it was a paid FUD. Paid by market operators (AKA market manipulators) to whipe out long positions with as little cost as it is possible. I (and not only me) expected a massive dump before another leg up just from technical point of view even without this "news". "news' that everyone knew about. I cant imagine a investor that invested in bitcoin not knowing the fact that it consumes as much energy as whole country. So as I don't believe that Musk nought bitcoin, was shilling bitcoin for months and finally did research yesterday and changed his decision XD. He is not that stupid... Yesterday we also had fake binance FUD: "BREAKING: Binance, the world's biggest crypto exchange, is under investigation by the Justice Department and IRS https://trib.al/tXGMWBT" https://twitter.com/crypto/status/1392888177363406852While the true is: "The "news" title is bad. Article itself isn't so bad actually (but who reads). It described how collaborated with law enforcement agencies to fight bad players, but somehow made it look like a bad thing... Thinking face Anyways. Back to work." https://twitter.com/cz_binanceI like to call it "bullish FUD". Moon soon. |
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Yes after tweeted from Elon musk profile , bitcoin already below $50000 . I think it's another ticks from Elon musk. Most of the investors and traders don't follow Elon musk announcement. I already victimed following Elon musk announcement.
Please do not post huge images just to show a price. Man I can achieve the same with : "BTC 24h change is 10.34% and the price is 50330 currently". If you want to post image you can do scale it adding additional parameter (f.e width=500): [.img width=500]https://i.imgur.com/VyF3psI.jpg[/img] I expected to see all longs to be rected before next leg up. Didn't expect it to happen because of Elon tweet. Well this is pure manipulation. Either Musk used his twitter power to rect Longs, or was paid by market operators (AKA manipulators) to do so or was trying to test strength of network (market reaction for good/bad news is important indicator for whales). It is not possible that he invested in bitcoin, was shilling bitcoin for months, and finally did full research realizing about the most obvious thing that every investor knows about (energy consumption). He must have known about it before. Whole action was planned. |
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Mam pomysł. Oczywiście nie zamierzam robić tego sam. I nie zamierzam nikogo przekonywać. Warunki zostały przedstawione w skrócie. Jest to dobrowolne.
To oczywiste, że każdy dobrowolnie daje się oszukać. Dlatego nazywa się to "oszukanie" a nie "rabunek". Nie napisałem, że jesteś rabusiem, napisałem, że jest spore ryzyko, że planujesz ludzi oszukać bazując na najniższych instynktach dobrych ludzi. Przestrzegam wszystkich chętnych. Szczegółów dalej nie mamy ... mamy tajemniczy plan, w który możemy dobrowolnie zainwestować... Nie wiedząc nawet czy to ma być CEX czy DEX. |
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I am not a gambler, and I do not gamble with crypto. You have your own analysis, and I have my own analysis. So you can say that is wrong easily while I have my analysis, and I can say that you can be wrong easily too.
So far you did not say anything about your analysis beside something like "its going up now, and everything is going up ... so it will go up ... and 500 is a nice number so it should go there". Tell us about your analysis... How big the percentage of BNB gives you profit? More than 50x but below 100x? What price did you buy BNB? If you really know how to identify the real project with the biggest potential, you do not just make 50x of the profit.
But thank you for the tips about when is the time for investment.
I don't know exactly because part of my profit is passive income from lauchpads, lauchpools and many more activities that BNB was paying for holding BNB. Even binance card rabats. It was more than x50 but far from x100. But even if... x 50 in 1 year is bad? You really thing so? |
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we can use it to make money.
Making money by gambling on the top of the bubble made by dead cat bounce? Go to casino and bet all your money on red and call it "making money". You may even have a better result. You don't have to fight with insiders, professional market operators (AKA manipulators), whales that just wait to dump their bags knowing that ETC was a failure (BTW ... obtained for free from fork). Just 50:50. Black:Red Besides that, if you check on the other people, many projects do not have real value. At least, the project gives a chance to make money.
99.9% of them are garbage. Take a look how I try to find good investment in crypto. Trying to find those 0.01% ... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208144.msg53299809#msg53299809 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208144.msg53361035#msg53361035and contiosly counting indicators quarter after quarter: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208144.msg53680228#msg53680228https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208144.msg55391060#msg55391060This investment gave me more than x50. But not now. Good time for investment was in 2018-2020. Good time for investment will be in 2023-2025. Until then newbie should do 2 things. Save as much money for 2023-2025 and observe how bubble is forming and how its crashing. To try to learn those emotions. FOMO all around the place. To know what to do with his investments when new bubble will start. When to cash out ... when every other is screaming "moon" "We are going to 500$ with this shitcoin". He will know that its the best time to grab his money out because he will know what bear market will do with all those lambo investors few weeks after. |
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*do miliarda
Racja do miliarda. W sumie to już do 2 Najbardziej chyba dziwi mnie ten wzrost Dogecoina, myślałem że ludziom się to znudziło, ale przychodzą nowe fale spekulantów.
Ludzie mają niewyczerpalne pokłady chciwości a profesjonalni "operatorzy rynku" mają coraz więcej kapitału, umiejętności i technologi do dyspozycji. Shiba to pokaz ich umiejętności na niespotykanym poziomie. Nawet wysyłali do vitalica 50% supply udając, że to on kupuje. Rozbujali token, który 3 miesiące temu nie istniał (istniał tylko teoretycznie) do 18 mld$ dziennego wolumenu i top 14 CMC. Dostając płynność nawiększej giełdy (binance) w bonusie na szczycie. Płynność, która pozwala pozbyć się tokenów na ponad 1000x pompie. A dokładniej jak nie mylę się z obliczeniami ~ x84k licząc od cen z sierpnia 2020. |
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A na co wydasz 374 300 zł. Skąd ta kwota? Wypisujesz na co wydasz procent z zysków ... nie piszesz jak go osiągniesz. Czy to będzie CEX czy to będzie DEX. Obecnie jest ponad 300 CEXów. Jak zdobędziesz klientów będąc dodatkowo obciążonym dodatkowymi kosztami - 50% zysków znika (będąc w trudniejszej sytuacji finansowej niż konkurencja).
Moim zdaniem ... przepraszam jak tak nie jest ... ale twoja zrzutka to próba żerowania na najniższych instynktach dobrych ludzi. Nie posiliłeś się do tego by podać szczegóły swojego biznesu, nie masz planu działania ... na razie masz plan pozyskania środków i to w 3 językach... i dokładny plan rozdzielenia zysków, których prawdopodobnie nie będzie. Działalność charytatywna giełdy kryptowalutowej powinna być dodatkowym punktem dobrze przemyślanej strategii wprowadzony w momencie uzyskania solidnej marki i bazy klientów a nie filarem istnienia.
Poza tym człowieku ... skąd ty się urwałeś ? To świat krypto ... królestwo crowdfundingu o niewyczerpalnych zasobach gotówki ... w czasie bańki altów... Załuż stronę, odpal tutorial na YT jak zrobić w 1 h token na ETH (albo lepiej na BSC) i sprzedaj udziały na swapach albo ICO (AKA tokeny) ... A ty robisz zrzutkę na zrzutka.pl wyglądając jakbyś o krypto wiedział tylko tyle, że istnieje i że chcesz zrobić giełdę, która będzie przekazywała zyski dla potrzebujących. Zbierasz drzewo na pustyni na wyjazd do lasu...
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Your argument is absolutely correct. We are seeing madness happen in this bull run. The old shitcoins are over-pumped. The value of ETC may be being manipulated. Many have argued that miners are moving from ETH to ETC and increasing the value of the project. This is true, but it will no longer be true since the real value of development and application in a monetary system is not much. This is basically an unreliable project for investment. The price increase of ETC right now is similar to DOGE right now. We should not follow trends and invest in a project of no clear value like ETC.
Agreed. One more thing to add. Miners are moving to ETC not because of tech, not because they think ETC is better. Its because ETC price pumped 10x in 3 months so its more profitable in short term to mine ETC. ETC and ETH miners use same algo, same hardware so its like 5 min of work to double/triple earnings. It will end as soon as ETC price will start to go down. |
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The specific way that Idena is organized would strike some westerners as suspicious. That doesn't mean it's a scam, it just means that in the west people who want to run a scam often use a certain style which is used in this coin.
You are wrong. Invitations are made to avoid situation in which someone is spamming network with thousands of new nodes (bots) each epoch validating 30% of them going random with each flip. New miner is not buying anything from idena or from invitator. New miner is not source of current miners income. Its the oposite of that. More miners = less coins for single miner. If someone calls this system being similar to Ponzi scheme only because of invitation existance... he needs to read what Ponzi scheme is or go to see a doctor. Bitcoin was started using a scammy architecture which initially gave most bitcoin that will ever exist to a small number of people, before the first halving, and those people understood implicitly that if they kept the supply tight they could use their control to pump the coin very high. Does that mean bitcoin is a scam? Some people would say yes. You don't start a real currency by issuing most of the money supply in the first few years to yourself and your crew.
Damn... sometimes I'm shocked at how some people's brains work. |
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Really ETC is dead? We will see it later. According to this article : Ethereum Classic (ETC) is the original Ethereum blockchain. ETH and ETC share the same blockchain record before the July 2016 hard fork. I only see a chance for making money or profit from all coins, including ETC, so if that coin can give me money, I will still use it. Thats exacly what I said: " Its eth fork but without use cases, without developement, without good projects build on it." So this is the same code that ETH had few years ago. Copy - paste. That makes this project be worth $13B? 13 Billion $ ... for copy-paste? 62 000 times Lamborghini Huracan Evo... for copy-paste that no one is using? ETH has huge community, thousands of projects, dozens of use cases, huge volume, millions of transactions daily, huge infrastructure, devs ... ETC has similar code... and no one is using it. Code has 0 value in crypto. Everything is open source. You can cope and paste every project and create your own with different name (fork it). It is going to 0. Sooner or later. So you have 2 options. Trade on valuable coins that has value, community that will buy the dip or trade dead projects (play hot potato game, Greater fool game). Projects that are irrevocably going to 0 but maybe ... before reaching 0 ... will reach 500$, or not... |
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Did I also say that you need to be invited to become a validator? Ow yeah, maybe now this sounds like a mfking pyramid scheme bullshit to anyone?
Not everything that requires invitations is a pyramid scheme. For example inviting your parents for your wedding ... "In exchange, the organization promises its new members a share of the money taken from every additional member that they recruit. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_schemeIdena does not take any money from new members. So its not a pyramid shame. New members (miners) takes money from Idena. After having a chit chat with the devs, I still couldn't understand how they can not adopt the blockchain for number of validators and validators that miss the validation sessions.
2 validations per epoch = everyone will validate twice = everyone will have 2 accounts. |
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I guess so. But it will not come in shortly because many high prices need to break and need time. I see ETC have a chance to increase and reach $500 sooner or later and I see that the support for ETC become bigger than the last year. But we do not know how long ETC can reach that price because there are no estimated time for that.
What are toy talking about? "because there are no estimated time for that"? "I see ETC have a chance to increase and reach $500 sooner or later and I see that the support for ETC become bigger" What makes you think so? ETC is dead. Its eth fork but without use cases, without developement, without good projects build on it. Without anything. Just forked ETH. And it should be worth 80% of ETH with thousands projects build on, with millions transactions daily, with huge dexes, infrastructure. Anyone who buys ETC ... its not a matter of time when it will start to grow. Its a matter of time when it will dump to close to 0 levels. You can trade a waves, but be ready for massive dump that will never recover. |
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obecnie próbuję zwiększyć swój stan posiadania BTC poprzez altcoin trading... do tej pory mi to się bardzo dobrze powiodło  Tak, ja osiągnąłem maksymalny poziom altów w momencie otwierania wątku (jakieś 70% było w Altach 30% w BTC). Od tamtej pory, mimo że to alty najmocniej się pompują, to mój stostunek się odwrócił 60% BTC, 10% alty 20% stable coiny (z czego połowa w PAX gold - brałbym prawdziwe złoto, ale nie jestem jeszcze gotów - musze przygotować optymalizacje podatkowe) i powoli przechodze całym portfelem na btc. Więc podobnie jak ty moim priorytetem są obecnie bitcoiny. Liczę że ostateczną pompę pokaże jednak BTC wciągając hasj z całego rynku. |
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Moim zdaniem kapitał z doga właśnie przenosi się na ETH, BNB i kilka innych altów, gdezie zobaczymy jeszcze 1 silną falę wzrostową. Potem tradycyjnie wystrzelą shitcoiny i na tym alty zakończą swoją podróż podczas tej bańki. BTC natomiast to inna bajka. On ma jeszcze min pół roku wzrostów przed sobą BTW. Widzieliście shiba milionera? https://etherscan.io/address/0x1406899696adb2fa7a95ea68e80d4f9c82fcdedd#tokentxnsz 10k $ do 1 biliona w 3 miesiące. |
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W momencie pisania OP BTC było po 34k$. Obecnie +70% BNB było po 40$ - obecnie 660$ - x16 ETH po 1300$ obecnie 3800$ - x2.5 Doge po 0.008 obecnie 0.5 - x60 CAKE był po 1$ obecnie po 38$ Bitcoin dominance spadło z 64 na 45. Alt sezon bełną gębą. Co prawda nie do końca sklasyfikowałem przyczynę, ale rezultat trafiony. Ok ... skończyłem się chwalić |
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