Speaking of war, I got to thinking about one of my favorite quotes: We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
This actually maps fairly well to the CAGW thing and is a cut-out of how sheeple are induced to support nonsense wars. The propaganda about the danger of catastrophic global climate change has been so strong and effective that anyone who doubts it is considered a threat to their fellow 'global citizens.' My daughter watches cartoons on cartoon network. And its even on there. In casual dialogue like its completely assumed to be true. That seems to be the tactic now, assume its true and ridicule anyone who questions it. The lack of a single accurate model predicting future trends be damned. If you can repeat the same dogma enough times than it becomes true, no need to establish credibility through accurate predictions in the past and use that credibility to earn serious consideration in your future predictions. Except that's what's been tried, and it's failed. Propaganda REQUIRES naive propagators of the faith. They are the pawns, and they are sincere. Behind them are the schemers and manipulators. As for the modeling, it is possible to model climate, however, this is not what "climate models" are tasked to do. You see, climate is long term trends. Climate modeling is not figuring the temperatures of the next several years. Further, modeling requires precise knowledge of heat sinks and emissions. This would be the heat in the ocean and that released to space. Precise knowledge of these factors we do not have. Thus the errors in the unknowns vastly outweigh the knowns. Yea sure I mean the weather channel does an ok job predicting the weather up to a week out but even by the time you get a week out it starts to get pretty unreliable. Two three of four weeks forget about it. And these guys want to model 100 years out? Give me a break. |
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Did an escrow for me on the Exo first stage investment. This transaction is particular noteworthy because my original "greatwolf" was compromised. I was worried I wouldn't be able to recover my funds but Anon136 provided a way for me to show, with a reasonable amount of certainty, that I am in fact the original investor of the IPO. He's been very responsive through the investigative process and I am thankful to have him as my escrow. Do note that the extra detective work cost extra since it wasn't part of the original terms of the escrow. As such, I recommend that when doing an escrow with anon136, or anyone else for that matter, to have the transaction and escrow tied to something other than your BCT account, so it's easier to prove your online identity. See this thread for why using BCT as the primary reference point is a bad idea. I try to avoid "talking" in my rep thread. But this is an important issue because there is a risk that my account becomes compromised and a LOT of people could get scammed that way. Before doing an escrow with me ask me to digitally sign a message using the bitcoin address registered at my OTC Web of Trust account. That address can be found here: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=Anon136OP updated. |
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Speaking of war, I got to thinking about one of my favorite quotes: We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
This actually maps fairly well to the CAGW thing and is a cut-out of how sheeple are induced to support nonsense wars. The propaganda about the danger of catastrophic global climate change has been so strong and effective that anyone who doubts it is considered a threat to their fellow 'global citizens.' My daughter watches cartoons on cartoon network. And its even on there. In casual dialogue like its completely assumed to be true. That seems to be the tactic now, assume its true and ridicule anyone who questions it. The lack of a single accurate model predicting future trends be damned. If you can repeat the same dogma enough times than it becomes true, no need to establish credibility through accurate predictions in the past and use that credibility to earn serious consideration in your future predictions. |
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I tried all the cables I have, up to 6 different USB cables, in different USB ports, in different computers, in different SOs. And my Trezor was never detected, I tried using the plugin, and the bridge with same results.  Even if I the trezor will work using a powered usb hub I wouldn't feel safe sending my saves to a device that has given me problems since the first attempt to use it. I think everybody can understand that. I think my device really has a manufacturing defect, because it's not normal what's happening. You can derive your addresses from your seed without a working trezor. What you are worried about is not a risk. |
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My new trezor still not working and I have not received any solution from the support service. I have not even been able to access to the first configuration of the device  Why does it take so long to provide help to your customers via support service? The last answer from support was more than 30 hours ago, telling me that the problem was probably due to Windows 7 issues when I has been said them before that I had tested the device in another SO. Actually in differents computers with XP, W7 and W8 with same results. Still waiting since then. Maybe I'm impatient, but I was eager to try and use my trezor. I had similar problems like you.
My solution was to use a USB hub with a standalone power supply.
Yeah, Try USB cable that you know works. Its not just that. Some usb cables that work for other things wont work for trezor. I tried a cable that works just fine and it didnt work and they told me to try another, so i tried another that i knew worked fine and it didnt work either. Against my own better judgement i decided to waste the effort to try a third cable even though there was no way that was the problem at that point, and the third one worked. try every usb cable you have imo. |
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Do you have yahoo messenger or Skype?
Thanks.
I have used skype before. I'll go ahead and download and install it now. What is your handle? |
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I had hoped many more would have been sold by now given 141,614 subscribers to /r/Bitcoin and 393,788 accounts in bitcointalk. Plus the hundreds of millions spent on ASIC preorders.
Sadly most of the people would rather invest in shady mining companies instead of increasing the security of their coins. I wasn't your marginal consumer. I probably would have paid 5 times what you were asking if that has been the price. So it sort of confounds me that there isn't more interest than is. Have you guys put much thought into increasing the value proposition by working with websites and services to help them to integrate your technology for authentication. How cool would it be if for each website that you logged in to, you could simply click login on the browser, plug in your trezor, get a prompt on your trezor, and then just hit confirm on the trezor. It would be infinitely more secure than the standard current credentialing method of typing in a user name and password and even easier. |
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We had that system of about 50% employment for the centuries when men worked and women stayed home.
Yes, there will always be disparity, but the lowest income level has been improving in quality of life, and will likely continue to do so. Poor people still get the benefits of a house, running water, sanitation, electricity, and communications like cell phones and Internet, which they couldn't even dream of 100 years ago.
People having land doesn't matter. Land is just some dirt you can do stuff with. What matters is what's between your ears. You can use that in combination with land to grow food, build a house, or run a business, or you can use that without land to make money, run a business, rent an apartment, and live anywhere. The main mistake poor people make is that they never accumulate any assets, instead spending all their money as soon as they get it. And those assets don't have to be land. Even some stocks and binds, or just some cash in savings would do to start with.
Your kidding right. Land is all that matters. No matter if you dont have land you have nothing. I can charge you every cent you make to live on what you don't own. You could charge it. But unless there is something supremely special about your land in particular, if you charge too much someone is going to undercut you because a little profit is always better than no profit. |
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Also there is a rather short limit to the longest transaction it can sign. That makes its functionality for doing things like signing contracts limited. I suppose you could make a hash of a contract and sign that hash though. Probably worth it for the security that you would gain from using a trezor instead of keeping the keys to your online identity on a computer. I wonder if people will be able to to get used to and accept signing a hash of a contract rather than signing the contract its self.
That's normally how signing works (with PGP, and I assume with other systems as well). Does signing a message with a Bitcoin private key not create a hash of the message as an intermediate step? Or is the Trezor implementation missing that? Is there a specification for how message signing and verification should be done? That is a question for someone smarter than myself. All i am sure of is that i tried to sign a message that was more than a paragraph or two long and it refused. Presumably because it does not have enough ram on the devise to load a longer message and perform all of its internal calculations. if you are correct and the normal procedure in pgp is to create a hash and sign that, than perhaps they could make it so that mytrezor.com could create the hash browser side and send that to the trezor to sign. |
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Can someone please provide a short step-by-step tutorial on how to use the Trezor to sign a hash of a document?
Thanks
From memory: Click on the account that you want to use. Then near the top right you will see a sign and verify button. Click it. It will bring up 2 forms that you can fill out, sign and verify. The first field will be the message. Enter the message that you want to sign in the message field. The second field will be the address. begin typing the address that you want to use. it will detect the address you are entering and provide an option to fill out the rest of the address for you. Click sign. Now look at your trezor. It will ask you to confirm that you want to sign the message. Confirm that you do. Now enter your pin. Look back at the form page in your browser. you will see that the formerly empty signature box will now contain a series of characters. That is your digital signature. |
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FEATURE REQUEST!!!
Is it possible for myTrezor to NOT prompt the user for a password, even if one is needed? There could be a little password field in the "advanced" section to optionally type in. I feel like that would really add to the whole plausible-deniability feature of a Trezor. (As for what the interface shows when no password is entered, there should probably be a default "null" password of some kind that is assumed)
+1. The other, and probably better, alternative is to simply take that option away when setting up the trezor and have the password request be the default, then if you dont want to use a password than simply log in without a password. Probably a good idea to go ahead and put a little caption on the login screen that says "password optional" or "password not required". |
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noticed it is now possible to sign messages with the trezor  Amazing! I'm going to begin tying my online identity to my trezor then.  14JSyQrwABxphviQUMwzxvGtTYxFBCeYQ8 ILqamgF5mXV+vQuX7B4VuXflAGX9QUsl/9hD5eEGZohYe7KnqTMubcq5iRsRxmIM/13xUCS7CSFzDiSFwv7Mtp8= Weird, just tried signing a message using myTrezor in Firefox and nothing happened. What's supposed to happen when you click "sign" ? Tried with another account and it worked. So, when it DIDN'T work, I had entered a "blank" password and thus entered an unused account... when I used the receiving Bitcoin address to sign a message (which hadn't yet received any bitcoins) nothing happened when I clicked "sign" Yep i had to send 0.00006 bitcoins to the address that I used to sign that message before it would work. Also there is a rather short limit to the longest transaction it can sign. That makes its functionality for doing things like signing contracts limited. I suppose you could make a hash of a contract and sign that hash though. Probably worth it for the security that you would gain from using a trezor instead of keeping the keys to your online identity on a computer. I wonder if people will be able to to get used to and accept signing a hash of a contract rather than signing the contract its self. |
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Please excuse a quick little bit of shameless advertisement. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853004Topic: Buy and Sell Bitcoins for Cash Deposit Into Bank AccountI'm considering dabbling in buying and selling bitcoins for bank cash deposit if anyone is interested. Lets start out at say 5% over spot for purchases and 5% under spot for sales and see how it goes. It's a little bit more than coinbase charges but you won't even have to have a bank account for purchases and you wont need to do any of that onerous registration and compliance stuff for sales. I'm basically going to treat it like I'm a localbitcoins vendor. This service will be for friends not the whole world. The moment it gets big enough that I start getting worried about drawing the attention of the jackboots I'll just raise my prices until the volume comes back down low enough for me to feel like I'm safely flying under the radar again. I bank at wells fargo. If sufficient interest is shown than ill expand out and open accounts in other popular national chains. Anyway do leave me any feedback you deem valuable. Thanks! -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Buy and Sell Bitcoins for Cash Deposit Into Bank Account - Anon136 - 091114
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14JSyQrwABxphviQUMwzxvGtTYxFBCeYQ8
IK23WZiUsKvXKMdwEAjZ1Gnk03MZORQjvqlOffGnFtM7WZip2bIwwfg1DBJUKsVvO3U1jHMLHESIy64UEYfyfkw=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- P.S. That is a new address that I'm going to start building reputation on. It's on my trezor. Its also now registered to my OTC Web of Trust account, with the handle Anon136 on the WoT as well. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=Anon136 |
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I'm considering dabbling in buying and selling bitcoins for bank cash deposit if anyone is interested. Lets start out at say 5% over spot for purchases and 5% under spot for sales and see how it goes.
It's a little bit more than coinbase charges but you won't even have to have a bank account for purchases and you wont need to do any of that onerous registration and compliance stuff. I'm basically going to treat it like I'm a localbitcoins vendor. This service will be for friends not the whole world. The moment it gets big enough that I start getting worried about drawing the attention of the jackboots I'll just raise my prices until the volume comes back down low enough for me to feel like I'm safely flying under the radar again.
Anyway do leave me any feedback you deem valuable. Thanks!
Aren't there such services already? Back in the day, I used Bitcoin Brokers and was pretty happy with their service. I haven't used them in a long time though. See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237164.440 No harm replicating it, of course. Absolutely nothing new here. Just adding a bit more decentralization to the market. Always a good thing I think. |
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I'm considering dabbling in buying and selling bitcoins for bank cash deposit if anyone is interested. Lets start out at say 5% over spot for purchases and 5% under spot for sales and see how it goes. It's a little bit more than coinbase charges but you won't even have to have a bank account for purchases and you wont need to do any of that onerous registration and compliance stuff for sales. I'm basically going to treat it like I'm a localbitcoins vendor. This service will be for friends not the whole world. The moment it gets big enough that I start getting worried about drawing the attention of the jackboots I'll just raise my prices until the volume comes back down low enough for me to feel like I'm safely flying under the radar again. I bank at wells fargo. If sufficient interest is shown than ill expand out and open accounts in other popular national chains. Anyway do leave me any feedback you deem valuable. Thanks! -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Buy and Sell Bitcoins for Cash Deposit Into Bank Account - Anon136 - 091114
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14JSyQrwABxphviQUMwzxvGtTYxFBCeYQ8
IK23WZiUsKvXKMdwEAjZ1Gnk03MZORQjvqlOffGnFtM7WZip2bIwwfg1DBJUKsVvO3U1jHMLHESIy64UEYfyfkw=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- P.S. That is a new address that I'm going to start building reputation on. It's on my trezor. Its also now registered to my OTC Web of Trust account, with the handle Anon136 on the WoT as well. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=Anon136 |
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noticed it is now possible to sign messages with the trezor Amazing! I'm going to begin tying my online identity to my trezor then. 14JSyQrwABxphviQUMwzxvGtTYxFBCeYQ8 ILqamgF5mXV+vQuX7B4VuXflAGX9QUsl/9hD5eEGZohYe7KnqTMubcq5iRsRxmIM/13xUCS7CSFzDiSFwv7Mtp8= |
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I admit rptiela's interest in this coin eventually sucked me in. This coin is still incredibly technical and unattractive from a user perspective ( reminiscing a command line program), but even in this (from an Apple user perspective) horrible state it is already doing great. The amount of innovation going on in the 'money scene' since 2008 is astonishing and this coin actually sets out to solve a real world problem.
not only does it set out to solve them. it has a plausible strategy for actually achieving that. this i can not say for most others in the business of solving these same problems. |
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I also cannot access my funds on myTrezor.com, can't say I'm impressed at all.
I will be sweeping them right back to a paper wallet the moment its up, what a waste of $120.
Just be patient. Third party wallet support will solve problems like these and it will be here very soon. |
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you know monero is undervalued if  |
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