Germany has joined the party! Report: Over 3,600 Children in Germany Were Sexually Abused by Clergyhttps://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/13/headlines/report_over_3_600_children_in_germany_were_sexually_abused_by_clergyIn Germany, a new report reveals that over 3,600 children have been sexually abused by clergy of the Catholic Church and that at least 1,670 clergy members have been involved in the abuse over the past seven decades. The report was commissioned by the German Roman Catholic Church Bishops’ Conference. It comes in the wake of a larger child sexual abuse scandal rocking the Catholic Church worldwide. On Wednesday, Pope Francis called for a conference at the Vatican in February with international heads of the church to discuss the crisis. |
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I didn't realize there were people who seriously think religion should be in charge of upholding the law and prosecuting criminal behavior...
How is this different from Sharia Law?
Do you not see the hypocrisy?
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Trump celebrating the 9/11 tragedy?  |
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When we apply real DMT science to religion, aren't we turning science into religion?
No, science is hypothesizing that Moses hallucinated via known mechanisms. This is based on the facts which I already presented. There is no request to "take it on faith" or any of that jazz. I presented facts and evidence. The evidence I presented could be tested by anyone. That's the whole point of science. You can test it for yourself. Unlike religion, where you are asked to trust the writings of an ancient desert dwelling tribe without the ability to test any of their claims. |
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Who decides what is a normal mental state versus an illness? I'm fairly certain there are zero "normal people" on this planet... everyone is a unique snowflake Why demonize people for being different than you? I hope you realize you also have personality traits which could be deemed abnormal, everyone does... you cannot condemn a mental illness without condemning yourself More to the point... if you claim transgenderism is a mental illness... you are misinformed, because it was removed from that category: Being transgender no longer classified as mental illness. Here's whyhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/06/20/transgender-not-mental-illness-world-health-organization/717758002/"It was taken out from the mental health disorders because we had a better understanding that this wasn't actually a mental health condition and leaving it there was causing stigma," said Dr. Lale Say, coordinator of WHO's Adolescents and at-Risk Populations team. "So in order to reduce the stigma while also ensuring access to necessary health interventions, this was placed in a different chapter." If you still claim it is a mental illness, then you are simply a bigot who doesn't care what the science says, and you just hate people who are different for no reason other than you want to hate people who are different |
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And if you've walked away from Islam, congratulations.
Funny that you call me a Muslim even though I condemn both groups for their actions, yet you defend catholic pedophile priests and say you aren't a catholic... I suppose the other options would be that you are a priest or a pedophile and that is the reason you defend them. But, you don't defend Islam priests, so it's not because you are a priest... that leaves 1 option for why you would defend pedophile catholic priests... are you a pedophile? If your game is to trade insults, I can play that game too (but I prefer arguing about reality than calling someone names) |
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just to show you how off-base you are, the bush could have been next to a rock formation with special vibrational qualities. Some joker could have been hiding in the rock formation and tricking Moses. Moses didn't have to be hallucinating. He just might have been tricked.
I feel there is enough evidence to point to Moses hallucinating on DMT. The only question is whether this was an accident, or intentional. Moses, having been raised in Egypt, would likely have known about "the tree of life" (aka Acacia Nilotica, aka "the Egyptian Acacia") The Egyptians Had Their Own Version Of Ayahuasca They Called “The Tree Of Life”https://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/05/31/the-tree-of-life-acacia-nilotica/The fact that the bible mentions the bush was burning, but did not burn up, implies knowledge of the vaporization of DMT. DMT will degrade into other chemicals in a fire, which is why the story makes a point about the fire being small and not consuming the bush itself, only hot enough to vaporize the DMT in the plant, but not hot enough to destroy the chemical. IMHO, this implies Moses understood DMT and its vaporization temperature. Jews often wrote things down cryptically like this, so only those "in the know" would understand the meaning. This is extremely common in the bible. Other examples include astrology (Egyptians worshiped the bull [age of Torus 4000BCE-2000BCE], Abraham sacrificed the ram instead of his son Isaac [age of Aries 2000BCE-0CE], Jesus is symbolized by the fish Pisces [age of Pisces 0CE-2000CE]). According to this theme, the next major religion should be symbolized by Aquarius [age of Aquarius 2000CE-4000CE] Another example of Jews cryptic writings in the bible would be the number of the beast, 666/616, referring to Nero Caesar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_BeastAnother example of hallucinogenic drug use in the bible would be manna/mushrooms. Anyone familiar with psychedelic mushrooms can tell you the similarity between the description of manna from heaven, and magic mushrooms growing  The bible mentions that the priests gathered up a bunch of this "manna", and put it in a pot to keep in the "holy of holies" and eat it for 40 years... |
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Massive amounts of DMT cure everything.
No wonder government and the medical try to keep us away from pot and other hallucinogens.
According to Terrence McKenna, someone stole a 55-gallon drum of DMT from the Army (with a dosage ~20mg, that is millions of doses) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3NLeKMImk&t=81s"The US Army was trying to develop and aerosol artillery shell which would land in a vietnamese village, drive everyone nuts, and you could send your people in and take over in all the confusion" |
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This whole thread can be explained by the simple fact that people who don't get their children vaccinated, also don't visit the doctor as often
When you visit the doctor often, the doctor finds things wrong with you... that's literally his job
If you don't visit the doctor, he can't find anything wrong with you, so there is obviously lower "diagnosed" problems with unvaccinated children because they haven't been to the doctor... the doctor can't find a problem if he never investigates the child, but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist, only that it was not diagnosed
There is also a problem with doctors misdiagnosing certain conditions like ADD/ADHD. Ritalin companies would pay doctors kickbacks for each prescription they wrote... and write prescriptions they did... over 6 million kids were prescribed medication for ADHD... as if hyperactivity isn't normal for children
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That's fine and dandy... I know your type, I've dealt with you plenty
You seriously think because you can come up with an example of another group doing similar or worse things than your group... that suddenly your group is the good one
Wrong
Both groups are evil. Period.
I certainly don't condone child slavery in Afghanistan... only the bible would condone child slavery (true story)
I choose to speak about the Catholic church because it is happening within a few miles of my house. Afghanistan is on the other side of the planet (and the reports are much less trustworthy). Like Jesus said, "remove the log from your own eye before trying to remove the splinter from the eye of Afghanistan"
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Why are they acting like this, we only sees this kind of reaction in some Muslim nation not in a well civilized nation like US.
People see what they want to see... if you claim you don't see it, it's simply because you haven't looked |
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" There is no atheists in war" When people get in extreme situation, they pray, maybe not to God or other god , maybe to Universe but in war there is no non believers.
You sure about that? http://militaryatheists.org/Still, the phrase "there are no atheists in war" is an argument against religion, not against atheism. The mental capacity for thinking and decision making of a desperate soldier fighting for his life is hardly going to be more rational or logical than that of a calm person not at risk of death. To say that you become religious when you are at your most irrational is not an argument in your favor. You really don't have to guess at it... pretty much anything you can think of, someone has already done the research for you... google it  According to this study, 28% of WWII soldiers never prayed, even during combat... that's a lot of atheists if you ask me |
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I don't think so. Not defending religion here, but the user reports of psychoactive substances effects go far beyond "hallucinations." That's a pretty strictly defined term in psychology. Reported effects include deep insights, feelings of being one-with-the-universe, etc, etc. They explicitly include experiences which said users describe as "spiritual."
I just don't think Moloch can successfully argue against religion on the basis of some of the events described in the books being attributable to psychoactive, instead of some pure mental state or whatever.
There are many ways to argue this issue well but this isn't one of them.
Who said I was arguing against religion? I simply pointed out the difference in viewpoint between religious and scientific interpretations of this particular event Many people who have taken psychedelics consider them "spiritual" events just like Moses did. From the reports I have heard about DMT, there is no doubt in my mind this is what happened that day. DMT is said to be a profoundly mystical experience... the type that could start a religion... particularly if a person didn't know they were taking drugs, and thought the hallucinations were real Anyway, I think you are wrong... I would definitely argue that a person who "spoke to god" through drug use was... unreliable to say the least Would you believe someone these days who took LSD then claimed they spoke to god? Of course not... why is Moses any different? Assuming the myth has some basis in fact, after this experience Moses went and wrote some profoundly simple rules defining good and bad behavior on some stone tablets. That sets him pretty far apart from today's drug user. You must know different drug users than I do... Ever listen to a guy named Alan Watts, or Terrence McKenna? Ever listen to a story from anyone who has done DMT? They all pretty much sound like Jesus, Moses, etc... it's something the drug does to you If you are interested, here is one example from Terrence McKenna (time queued for you)... but take it with a grain of salt because every description varies a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNVdMATZ0_c&t=368s |
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I don't think so. Not defending religion here, but the user reports of psychoactive substances effects go far beyond "hallucinations." That's a pretty strictly defined term in psychology. Reported effects include deep insights, feelings of being one-with-the-universe, etc, etc. They explicitly include experiences which said users describe as "spiritual."
I just don't think Moloch can successfully argue against religion on the basis of some of the events described in the books being attributable to psychoactive, instead of some pure mental state or whatever.
There are many ways to argue this issue well but this isn't one of them.
Who said I was arguing against religion? I simply pointed out the difference in viewpoint between religious and scientific interpretations of this particular event Many people who have taken psychedelics consider them "spiritual" events just like Moses did. From the reports I have heard about DMT, there is no doubt in my mind this is what happened that day. DMT is said to be a profoundly mystical experience... the type that could start a religion... particularly if a person didn't know they were taking drugs, and thought the hallucinations were real Anyway, I think you are wrong... I would definitely argue that a person who "spoke to god" through drug use was... unreliable to say the least Would you believe someone these days who took LSD then claimed they spoke to god? Of course not... why is Moses any different? |
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Not only in America... British Survey Says Only 2% of Young People Belong to the Church of Englandhttp://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/09/08/british-survey-says-only-2-of-young-people-belong-to-the-church-of-england/According to the latest British Social Attitudes survey, membership in the Church of England isn’t just dropping, it’s practically non-existent for the younger generation.
Only 2% (!) of people under the age of 24 belong to the Church, while approximately 70% of that same group claims no religious affiliation whatsoever. (Anglican? More like Anglican’t.)
Roger Harding of the National Centre for Social Research, which conducts the BSA survey, said the figures showed “an unrelenting decline in Church of England and Church of Scotland numbers. This is especially true for young people where less than one in 20 now belong to their established church. While the figures are starkest among younger people, in every age group the biggest single group are those identifying with no religion.
“We know from the British Social Attitudes survey that people’s views are becoming more socially liberal on issues like same-sex relationships and abortion. With growing numbers belonging to no religion, faith leaders will no doubt be considering how to better connect to a changing society.”
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Question:
What sort of idiot listens to Alex Jones?
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This will continue to increase not only in USA but globally .
If it increases, it will only be because that is what God wants.   Hahaha Bahahahahahaha  |
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