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2241  Economy / Economics / Re: Distribution of bitcoin wealth by owner on: May 04, 2014, 12:27:21 PM
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That will be gone by year's end and even Andreas will stop telling lies on TV.  So Bitcoin millionaires should get together and figure out where the masses will migrate to once it's obvious Bitcoin is not decentralized and worse, it's ran by banks, Corporations, hedge funds and maybe even the NSA.  
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What are you smoking?  You want to decentralize bitcoin distribution?  Just go ahead and buy some and stop bitching about rich people owning more than you. 

Bitcoin is not controlled by anyone.  You want to own 100k of bitcoins?  Just go and buy them, see what happens.

Gold, stocks, fiat and their derivatives can all be manipulated by creative GAAP rules.  Bitcoin? not so much.  You either own it or you don't.
Easy to verify if you really own the address you claim you own.

The price of bitcoin can be "manipulated" like most markets but at least the manipulation by banks and government agencies are not working too well and it gives back some power to the people
2242  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FREE BITCOIN Sites *and* Free Newbie Lotto on: May 04, 2014, 12:21:48 PM
Only 2new members asked to join the faucet in 3days, I hope it is not a bad sign for Bitcoin

The price being lower and the faucet not being re-evaluated may be a reason for the lack of new members joining
2243  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: May 04, 2014, 12:19:54 PM
Is this True?

The Bitcoin Mining Cloud Service CloudHashing.com has a new website design and their prices adjusted. The new prices are more attractive than the old prices , but the fact that the Bitcoin network difficulty in large steps ( the Difficulty ) continues to increase , the service of cloudhashing might not be the best option to choose .
CEX.IO that much more attractive and profitable .
The cloud mining contracts sold by cloudhashing for the term of one year , you can 30 GHS for $ 299 USD , 110 GHS for $ 999 USD or 375 GHS for $ 2999 ​​USD get .

If this hash values ​​in a good profit calculator gives is wrong with the current market situation, there is absolutely no chance of even a return on your investment in a year , let alone to have made some profit.

Even arithmetic, 375 GH / s for $ 2999 would be in the current situation in 12 months 3921.57 USD muster.
We use this calculator which we increase the average difficulty with a little 13 % we only $ 1,366.27 in revenue the first year.
A decline in the Diff is probably not currently in .
And that makes it really difficult to invest in the service Cloudhashing a recital.

But if the price is rising enormously Bitcoin is there any chance of actually what profit cloths ... but the risk is quite high !
So we recommend to look for other better priced alternatives if you are interested in cloud services hashing .


http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/1/post/2014/04/cloudhashing-vernieuwd-hun-website-en-prijzen.html

If the price rises you will profit in USD terms but you will have lose money in BTC terms
2244  Economy / Services / Re: ★★★ HIGHEST SIGNATURE PAYMENT ON THE BOARD - NEW RATES - RitzGrandCasino.com ★★★ on: May 04, 2014, 12:18:03 PM
You became a Full Member in April so you will only enjoy the Full Member rates for May
are you sure this is how it works..? because This is the conversation I had with Ritz in this thread just a couple of days ago..
Ok I have a question i don't know if this has been answered before or not, but as you can see I have 112 activity points at this point of time and somewhere in between this month I'll become full member so at what rate I'll get paid next month 0.0005 , 0.0007 or I'll get paid 0.0005 for the posts made as Member and 0.0007 for posts made as Full Member ..?
Best answer can give OP because many members have different view about this and I am also not clear about this

if you became a full member in the month then you get paid that rate. the next month you also get paid a rate as a full member and so on...
Thanks for clearing that out and Yeah no need to mention about next month its obvious if I'll get paid as full member this month its all clear that I'll get paid same rates for next month too till I achieve any higher membership status .

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if you became a full member in the month then you get paid that rate.
: he was referring to the Member rate

You can look for other responses to the same question in this thread and each and every time it has been the same answer : the old rate for the current month and the new rate only for next month

I think there has been exceptions when the member was becoming Full Member a day or two before the next period but you became Full Member way before the next period
2245  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 04, 2014, 12:12:16 PM
this is the first time ever I see a 1,5k Wall on Huobi.

beginning to scare me.  Sad

there, I took my walls down just for you  Wink

thank you, what a relief.  Cheesy

*buy buy buy


YES!!!!    I have been wondering how low this bear trap is going to go b/c I would prefer to buy a lil MOAR at the lowest point in this series. I was thinking that if it gets down to $420-ish in the next 24 hours... that is about as low as we can expect... absent some kind of negative news.... which negative news (or FUD) is always possible to help to drive some additional downward price pressure(s). 

In sum, I am thinking maybe to buy a little bit at $420-ish... if we get there.  I welcome to hear any other theories about the extent of downard price movement, here.





If you think it is a bear trap and we will go up a lot soon you should buy now!

We have been in a downtrend for a while with a few bull traps
2246  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitZuo.com | 2.25%/hour for 72 hours! | Transaction Log | No Max. | Professional on: May 04, 2014, 12:09:33 PM
I can't believe this one picked up, maybe because the owner talks English and the site design is cool
I don't want to kill your game so I won't say too many negative things, enjoy but please understand the risks : it is a ponzi game not an investment

The fact there is no max deposit is crazy : how can you give a profit to someone that would deposit 5BTC 10BTC or 100BTC?
2247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMU] EMUCOIN ★ Certified WorldStar ★ We're the golden childs ♥ Emunity ♥ on: May 04, 2014, 12:06:48 PM
Some people are still buying EMUCOIN on swisscex at 1litshi/emucoin

@Viecoin : that would be nice

I can't quote anyone from this thread, someone else has the same problem?
2248  Economy / Economics / Re: Would it be possible to create a distributed bitcoin price stabilizer? on: May 04, 2014, 12:01:14 PM
If the price should go up a lot, the money stabilising the price lower than what it should be will be gone rapidly and the same is true if the price need to go down a lot
2249  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: Faut-il investir dans le litecoin avant l'été ? on: May 04, 2014, 11:59:43 AM
Je pense que tu as raison, les gens investissent dans les alt-coins sans en connaître les détails  techniques, les gens font d'ailleurs pareil avec leurs autres investissements; il n'y a pas de substitut à faire ses recherches sur la société ou l'investissement avant d'investir
Quels altcoins conseillerais-tu? Je te demande pour info, pas pour bêtement les acehter sans faire de recherche

Toutes les arnaques à IPO se basent dessus.
C'est très simple tu fais des promesses et tu demandes que les gens t’envoie de l'argent.

Il est ultra simple d'identifier les scams.

1 - OP noob account
2 - investros noob account
3 - no proof of any work, just promises
4 - je n'ai plus tout en tête mais bref

En gros, la première chose à demander c'est DU CODE. Même si vous ne savez pas lire le C++ ou le JAVA, ça n'a pas d'importance car 99% des arnaqueurs ne peuvent même pas montrer un faux bout de code.

Sur toutes les scams que j'ai identifié ces derniers temps j'ai demandé de voir du code et aucun n'a pu montrer quoi que ce soit. Une seule fois quelqu'un m'a envoyé du code, c'était une copie sans modif du code du Nxt et ça ne fonctionnait même pas !

Pas besoin de lire le code, s'il n'y a pas de code il n'y a rien. Tout le monde peut le vérifier.


Oui ça parait une bonne technique, il ne faut pas juste se fier à un baratin même bien construit et laisser les émotions et l'appât du gain nous aveugler sur la réalité; je pense qu'on peut aussi dire la même chose quand on investit dans n'importe quelle nouvelle entreprise : il n'y a pas de substitut à comprendre le business plan, voir si le management est sérieux et faire des recherches et des calculs même simples par soi même

Ca aurait sûrement éviter à beaucoup d'investisseurs du fonds de Maddoff de perdre de l'argent; le pire est de ne même pas se poser la question; je pense qu'on peut estimer le risque juste avec de petites techniques très simples comme celles que tu as donné
2250  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 50 X 10000 SAToshi Giveaways for new players on: May 04, 2014, 11:51:10 AM
Only for new players? If not count me in

10,000 satoshis is the faucet on PD when it is happy hour : 10,000/minute
2251  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Le bitcoin devrait remonter on: May 04, 2014, 11:34:38 AM
La remontée arrivera peut-être quand on s'y attendra le moins donc elle pourrait arriver maintenant

Je trouve que les fondamentaux sont là et les raisons d'être optimistes sont encore plus grandes, l'aveuglement sur l'état des économies américaine et européenne est au plus haut avec le mythe d'une reprise durable alors que les deux régions sont encore plus endettés qu'avant et que les problèmes structurels sont toujours là : même banques, même management, même clientélisme des politiques, promesses sociales non financés, impôts en hausse, armée démesuré aux Etats-Unis ...
2252  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long] on: May 04, 2014, 11:32:35 AM
thats a good way to look at it and some nice advise. With all the legit longer running casinos there is no real need to put to much time and money into these less established sites. I was able to withdraw from coinbet.cc quite awhile ago but i remember it being kinda a compliacted mess before they finally cleared my very small transaction. Sorry to OP thats a heart breaker.

Thanks, you can tell when the new businesses are managing their website well and when they are not, there is no substitute for due diligence when the website is not trusted, we should also do ou due diligence when it is trusted
2253  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitZuo.com | 2.25%/hour for 72 hours! | Transaction Log | No Max. | Professional on: May 03, 2014, 10:34:58 PM
Of course it is not sustainable.  It is a ponzi just like the rest of these HYIP programs.  That is fine just don't try to tell us that it is backed by real investments.  If you going to play a ponzi you might as well play one that pays out quickly at least you know where you stand and don't have to wait 48 or 72 hrs.

I feel like that as well; I don't like the fact that he deceives the player making them think it is a trusted investment with guaranteed returns where they are totally unsustainable, it is an outright lie since he is not making money via short term loans or forex trading
2254  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Le bitcoin devrait remonter on: May 03, 2014, 10:32:34 PM
mon idée c'est de rien vendre en dessous de 2 à 3 fois mon prix de revient. arrivé à 760 € ou 800 je me rembourse et je garde au chaud le reste, c'est pas forcément une bonne idée, c'est la mienne.

Fallait me bipper sur mon 06............ quand le btc était à 10 € j'en aurais pris 30 par curiosité.

J'aurais surement fait la bêtise d'en vendre la moitié sur les 20 euros mais il me resterais 15 BTC

De mémoire j'ai eu mes premiers 0.8 btc vers le cours de 650 € mais j'ai eu la chance de les revendre 2 à 3 fois plus cher  en petites miettes sur un célèbre site de ventes aux enchères. ceci m'a permis d'acheter mes premiers BTC moins cher

Fallait me prévenir avant... vous aviez pas mon 06 22 03 63 6.  HuhHuh?

Pas grave

2 à 3 fois plus cher sans t'être jamais fait voler?

On peut retrouver ton téléphone en 10essais max? Grin

Tu aurais p-ê aussi vendu 5BTC à 40euros 5 à 100euros et 5 à 200euros Wink Récupérer sa mise initiale n'a rien d'une mauvaise idée, ça dépend du total de tes investissements, de combien tu peux risquer par investissement et ton sentiment sur le prix et son évolution quand ça aura monté
2255  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: May 03, 2014, 10:29:19 PM
The website has little or no use now. Members only lose money there.

The price has been going down for months, they only show the price movement for the last month so it is hard to see the continuous decline month after month but it seems you can't even see a chart showing more than the last 24h now, "1week" and "1month" only show the volumes
2256  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinbet.cc -- $340,000 stolen, the worst 45 days of my life. [Long] on: May 03, 2014, 10:25:48 PM
How can you get a portion back when they closed all ways of communication

Right I edited my post

Sometimes I feel like every Bitcoin business that disapears because it was unmanaged is positive because it means we are left with better managed businesses but it is hard to see so many sc.ams; when it seems a bit sc.ammy and unclear it is usually a sc.am or will end up badly, let's keep our business to the well managed websites and only small amounts on money on untrusted newcomers
2257  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sato-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Free Bitcoin Bonus: Jackpot : A on: May 03, 2014, 10:22:20 PM
can u proof that the contest is legit and u dont manipulate it?

I also suspect that the contest isn't legitimate.
Here is the proof - How can someone win over 50BTC from BTC0.01? If this is real >> all dice site will be bankrupt.

I also confirmed. I was able to win 3rd price once.

so i finally got time to upload some screenshots i took.

how can u explain how some members gets drawn the same winning number over and over again?

http://imageshack.com/a/img834/3640/25h9.jpg

look for the player grener and smew for example

Wow this is very weird, it is the same for lacky : http://imageshack.com/a/img834/3640/25h9.jpg
2258  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [Free 0.002/0.005 BTC] PrimeDice 600,000,000 bets giveaway! on: May 03, 2014, 09:30:23 PM
Im a huge gambler there but a noob here Sad Thanks alot anyways

You forgot your ID

Maybe if you actually read his post before making your 4-word spam post to pad your post count, you would've seen that he intentionally left his ID out as he can't participate...?

you made a 33 word spam post

he did said what his id is!

ID: 262623

I have less than 40 activity but a low UID on there. Thanks!

right before your friend from PD! Tongue

and I also made a spam post but this one doesn't count Tongue

Don't insult my posts Wink

I could swear this post wasn't here when I posted but I may be mistaken
2259  Economy / Services / Re: ★★★ HIGHEST SIGNATURE PAYMENT ON THE BOARD - NEW RATES - RitzGrandCasino.com ★★★ on: May 03, 2014, 09:26:34 PM
Ok I have a question i don't know if this has been answered before or not, but as you can see I have 112 activity points at this point of time and somewhere in between this month I'll become full member so at what rate I'll get paid next month 0.0005 , 0.0007 or I'll get paid 0.0005 for the posts made as Member and 0.0007 for posts made as Full Member ..?
Best answer can give OP because many members have different view about this and I am also not clear about this

if you became a full member in the month then you get paid that rate. the next month you also get paid a rate as a full member and so on...

What's going on Ritz ? Where's the missing 0.01 BTC ?
I am still waiting for my full payment Undecided



You became a Full Member in April so you will only enjoy the Full Member rates for May
2260  Other / Meta / Re: The definitive explanation of how activity works! on: May 03, 2014, 09:25:43 PM
Might as well sticky this...several threads a day asking this question.

Might be a good idea... Unfortunately, I'm not staff (yet?), so I can't Wink

Liam

Probably should be stickied. I don't remember reading it anywhere in the help.

Yes, I know there's an official thread explaining this somewhere but I've had a hard time finding it whenever I've looked.  I think this (or the official thread) should be stickied.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237597.0

What part of what I said isn't true?
Your activity increases with your post count if your post count is less than (time * 14). Your post count can be more than 14 below (time * 14), therefore your activity can increase with your post count for more than 14 levels within a 2 week period.


true
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