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2261  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Classic or Core? Which one is better? on: April 03, 2016, 09:42:43 AM
Would it kill us to just *announce* an intent to release a version with 2MB (or even just 1.1MB) block size limit?

Yes, it would kill Bitcoin to reward the whining of the rage-quit brigade.  Thanks for asking!







LOL, the Monero troll quotes Adam the late adopter who bought@alltime high:

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/44qr31/gregory_maxwell_unullc_has_evidently_never_heard/czsthhg

Thanks for demonstrating my point by showing us an example of the rage-quit brigade whining I was talking about.

If Bitcoin ever changes due to such nonsense (in which you malign a man cited by Satoshi's Whitepaper), it deserves to die.
2262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] DarkFlarb Speculation on: April 02, 2016, 09:23:19 AM
Americanpegasus isn't a whale. He's essentially the "one direction" of the XMR world in the sense that he commands a few noobs with questionable intelligence.


2263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Dish] Dish | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: April 01, 2016, 03:39:11 AM
wtf? dish?  Am I seeing things?  Shocked

Another rebrand?

Perhaps due to trademark issues with the KarDASHians, who just happen to own a chain of stores called DASH?

Or the Dash soap company sued?  Or the all-powerful Ms. Dash spice conglomerate?   Shocked
2264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] DarkFlarb Speculation on: April 01, 2016, 03:30:46 AM
Wow, forum is screwed.  The word uᴉoɔʇᴉq prints upside down and it replaced the word "m o n e r o" with "darkflarb"

Dish collapsing, DarkFlarb UP!   Cool
2265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters on: April 01, 2016, 01:17:38 AM
Dash instamine scam confirmed:

The list is reserved for those who were instrumental in substantially ripping off folks in the cryptocurrency space.

Evan Duffield   (DASH)

This is Dash's narrative.  It's not one Evan's Gate cultists want the public to see, but that's just too bad.

Any new investor researching Dash is going to find overwhelming overwhelming evidence of incompetence and/or malfeasance in the fiasco of a launch, bad crypto in the code, and snake oil marketing in the community.
2266  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: March 31, 2016, 09:47:42 PM
Could you point me to the global consensus ledger that Safari, Mozilla and Chrome maintain together? No? Then you're making a terribly foolish analogy.

you mean this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_Transfer_Protocol

2267  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Classic or Core? Which one is better? on: March 31, 2016, 02:47:46 AM
my opinion is not appreciated   Cry

goodbye.   Cry

2268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: March 31, 2016, 01:56:20 AM
Why is it that everyone who supports segwit has to be a condescending asshole all the time?

Because we're tired of endlessly responding to trolls like johnyj who continuously spread misinformation about Segwit in support of their contentious hard fork. He clearly isn't interested in honest debate, thus he gets treated with contempt.

Exactly right.  After the concept has been around for a year, there no good excuse to not understand segwit.

It's not hard.  Segwit takes all of two sentences to explain:

the witness data (signatures) portion of a transaction usually makes up around 75% of the total transaction data size ... so by moving it out the main block and into a separate 'witness block' of data makes available approx. that much space in the main block for other data.
2269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: March 31, 2016, 01:41:09 AM
It is really ridiculous what you are doing, but in the end even funny to watch. A forum clown has been born.

But serious, show me a timeline where stands that they would deliver MVP this week? And what the hell has the design of a forum got to do with all this?

Boring....

It's not only the "design" of MAID forum that reminds me of Paycointalk, it's the tone.  Long on hype, short on realistic critical self-evaluation.  That was clear in my post, so you ignored the part you didn't want to see.

But it's an unfair comparison because Paycoin at least had a working blockchain, while MAID sells itself with happy talk about a new private internet yet uses Bitcoin's conspicuously transparent blockchain.

If Maid was a serious effort, I'd expect Safecoin to piggyback on a private coin instead of one being analyzed/tracked/monitored by numerous private firms and .gov TLAs.

Please elaborate on how that expectation is unreasonable and makes me a clown.   Tongue
2270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 31, 2016, 01:28:21 AM
Poloniex holds more then 50% XMR, mostley because there is no GUI, if they go mtgox XMR is doomed

Yes, just like Bitcoin was doomed when mtgox went mtgox.   Roll Eyes
2271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2016, 10:49:46 PM
This might have something to do with it.

The list is reserved for those who were instrumental in substantially ripping off folks in the cryptocurrency space.

Carlos Garza   (GAW Miners)
Evan Duffield   (DASH)
Trendon T. Shavers   (Bitcoin Savings and Trust - BTCST)

Hey look, Evan Duffield made the list. Congrats!


One major issue for DASH is that whilst being quite innovative in a technical manner there is no clearly defined 'narrative.'

As you can see in the first quote, Dash has a clearly defined narrative.

The Dash narrative is a tale of a massive "accidental" instamine, bad crypto, snake oil marketing, and 100% centralized control over everything from the code to the brand.  Plus there is the cultish, hostile, defensive, oversensitive, and occasionally stalker-creepy community, which is infamous for its Scientology-like attack-the-attacker misbehavior.

I understand you may dislike and disagree with that narrative, but you should recognize it exists and that's what newcomers see.
2272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 30, 2016, 10:37:33 PM
Superbowl halftime ad starring Pegasus and Fluffypony!   Cool
A Superbowl ad with an equine theme is long overdue.

Monero Mustangs will be the new Budweiser Clydesdales.  Is it true?  Wow very marketing!
2273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: March 30, 2016, 10:13:41 PM
Here's the latest Dev-Update:

MaidSafe Dev Update 29th March 2016

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we still have a few issues in Vaults and one remaining in Crust that the dev team are focused on; these need to be resolved before the MVP is ready for delivery. So no MVP this week

Another failure to deliver, again with copious excuses and plenty of cheerleading spin (which I didn't quote for the sake of brevity/sanity).


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no transcript this week as this was something Justine used to pull together and Justine has now moved on from MaidSafe to new opportunities.

Rats fleeing a sinking ship.  The resemblance to GAW's Paycoin scam is uncanny.  The forum even has the same look/feel/tone as Paycointalk.   Roll Eyes
2274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: March 30, 2016, 10:06:10 PM
They think dash is too dangerous for their reputation. Dash is being used by scammers a lot. Some even buy it for 95btc each!

This might have something to do with it.

The list is reserved for those who were instrumental in substantially ripping off folks in the cryptocurrency space.

Carlos Garza   (GAW Miners)
Evan Duffield   (DASH)
Trendon T. Shavers   (Bitcoin Savings and Trust - BTCST)
2275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 30, 2016, 09:43:30 PM
Very interesting to see you discussing about Monero valuation, looks like we've got some experts here Grin.

I am following on a daily basis the cryptocommunity since december 2015 and it's true that monero lacks terribly of marketing/sales power.

I was wondering if any of you had an idea why? Because you can have the best project ever, if you don't sell it then.... Undecided

XMR community collectively decided to delay marketing until such time as RAM-saving database and GUI are ready.  We're long past the first checkpoint, and progress to the second is well underway.

A few Wild & Free mustangs went ahead with some awareness increasing campaigns (xmrpromotions and Pegasus), and those initial efforts have already resulted in (or at least correlated with) large price/volume increases and lots of chatter on /r/* (esp when Zcash/fungibility/tracking are discussed).

When the GUI is done, we'll use the forum funding system to make a Superbowl halftime ad starring Pegasus and Fluffypony!   Cool
2276  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Classic or Core? Which one is better? on: March 30, 2016, 08:54:27 PM
Would it kill us to just *announce* an intent to release a version with 2MB (or even just 1.1MB) block size limit?

Yes, it would kill Bitcoin to reward the whining of the rage-quit brigade.  Thanks for asking!





2277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 10:28:22 PM
Coin voting means something, as does block voting via version bits and whatnot.  Blowing off the resoundingly pro-Core/anti-Classic results on Bitcoinacracy is yet another way to spin politics.

These are all indicators of something sure, but they don't determine what software runs the network, any more than node count does. Even the latter indicates something, if something of vastly overstated importance by some in this debate.

Right, coin voting indicates something, specifically the preference of the self-selecting group that can be bothered to sign a ballot with their coins.  That socioeconomic indicator plays more of a role in determining what software runs (and doesn't run) the network than node counts (and Consider.it granfalloonery).

Why?  Because node counts include non-economic (ie fake) nodes, so at most they indicate an ongoing Sybil attack.  Coin voting by cryptographic definition cannot indicate non-economic (ie fake) users' preferences, even if it is merely a self-selected sample and not the exhaustively thorough poll we might have in An Ideal World.

Now, what happens when we apply to Bitcoinocracy's coin voting the extrapolation logic used by Classic supporters when they asked demanded slush split his entire pool's block voting according to the expressed preferences of the can-bother-to-vote subset?   Wink

What happens is we get to hear from the losing side deflection about how the venue is flawed, so any results produced therein must biased/invalid/meaningless.   Cool
2278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 08:38:02 PM
Potential Bitcoin owners are not "users of the network" (unless we broaden the definition to include everyone).

Sure they are, or at least can be. Immediately prior to acquiring their first coins they have launched and wallet and synced it, possibly synced up their own economically-independent full node if they want to have maximum confidence the coins they are about to acquire are actually real.

Other users who may not own coins or whose influence is not measured in coins owned include those with a large flow-through (services highly valued by their use, with such use not measured well by the coin ownership of their operator).

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Economic influence is a much more general and complicated topic (everybody drink when the phrase "intrinsic value" is used  Cheesy).

And yet, this general and complicated topic is what actually decides which software runs the network. Coin voting means nothing, other than yet another way to spin politics.

"Are" != "can be" (OK, notwithstanding the tiny transient edge case of new user bootstrapping)

"A large flow-through" would seem to imply coin ownership or at least possession/custody (however temporary).

Coin voting means something, as does block voting via version bits and whatnot.  Blowing off the resoundingly pro-Core/anti-Classic results on Bitcoinacracy is yet another way to spin politics.

Even if the results are more descriptive than causative, nobody is going to start a contentious fork war with so many BTC pledged to defend Core (and attack GavinCoin with well-funded doublespend-short-doublespend loops).
2279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 08:12:14 PM
I measure presence or absence in the dev community via merit, demonstrated roughly by lines of code contributed and/or other analogous accomplishments.

The devs writing and voluntarily taking on responsibility for fixing the code when it breaks get to decide what goes into that code, and when.

That is true, but it is users of the network who decide which code to use. Thus far there has been no real momentum by users toward changing vendors, but if there were, number of commits by developers of a single vendor's implementation would not make any difference.

It's not the number of commits that matters, it's the merit demonstrated by their utility that matters.

I'm not sure how I could have made that any more clear.  I guess "number of commits" is just a trigger for some people, no matter how many layers of disclaimers its embedded context.   Cheesy

I don't care how many extra commits Hearn and Toomin added to XT and Classic, because they were all BS like checkpoints and blacklists.  OTOH, LN and SEGWIT are high on my DO WANT list.

You have an influence, yes. So what is on your DO WANT list, matters, but you are only one among many. And merit certainly has a role in influence, though people can disagree on what constitutes merit.

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The users of the network are those who own coins.

Not entirely. Economic influence is more complicated than that. For example, value depends entirely on willingness to accept (aka buy) coins, whether the person buying already happens to own coins or not.

Potential Bitcoin owners are not "users of the network" (unless we broaden the definition to include everyone).  Economic influence is a much more general and complicated topic (everybody drink when the phrase "intrinsic value" is used  Cheesy).

People may disagree about anything, and often do.  The issue here is the reasonableness of those disagreements.

Many Classic supporters, especially the cranky I-hate-GMAX/PTODD/LUKEJR types, disagree with the idea that committing code demontrates merit, but they are not being reasonable (or even interacting in good faith, due to their greater goal of a governance coup).

Unless I start contributing useful code, my DO WANT list only influences Honey Badger to the extent I buy/sell/hold Bitcoins.  Non-economic users, just like non-economic nodes, are irrelevant.
2280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 07:41:07 PM
I measure presence or absence in the dev community via merit, demonstrated roughly by lines of code contributed and/or other analogous accomplishments.

The devs writing and voluntarily taking on responsibility for fixing the code when it breaks get to decide what goes into that code, and when.

That is true, but it is users of the network who decide which code to use. Thus far there has been no real momentum by users toward changing vendors, but if there were, number of commits by developers of a single vendor's implementation would not make any difference.

It's not the number of commits that matters, it's the merit demonstrated by their utility that matters.

I'm not sure how I could have made that any more clear.  I guess "number of commits" is just a trigger for some people, no matter how many layers of disclaimers its embedded context.   Cheesy

I don't care how many extra commits Hearn and Toomin added to XT and Classic, because they were all BS like checkpoints and blacklists.  OTOH, LN and SEGWIT are high on my DO WANT list.

The users of the network are those who own coins.  Like fake AWS Sybil nodes that don't actually store/send coins, non-economic users are irrelevant (no matter how much noise they can generate on Reddit).

As you note with great understatement, "Thus far there has been no real momentum by users toward changing vendors."

http://bitcoinocracy.com/ indicates the socioeconomic majority is firmly with the devs responsible for 90% of all commits to Bitcoin Core in 2015 (as it should be).   Cool
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