Price is down almost 30% for the day. What's going on?
Vitalik tweeted this several hours ago, in response to the question "Would you support ETC if it had the longer blockchain". The market is responding.  The return to 0.0040+ after several hours of dips shows that the popular sentiment behind ETC is stronger than just one guy. this tweet is very old nothing new... If he does not support etc, price should go way up  Thank God Vitalik won't be polluting the ETC community with his morally hazardous opinions. Keeping him and Tool installed in the kakocracy constituting ETH's Mostly Harmless centralized governance structure is the best outcome for ETC. |
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The Ethereum Foundation has 12 million ETC and it can send the price of ETC to one satoshis in matter of hours.
This applies to any fork using the ETH blockchain, those forks can be wiped out (in terms of there BTC price) overnight by Ethereum Foundation.
ETH is the controversially hard forked (bailout) chain. ETC is the original chain; it isn't a fork. I'm not sure how you could not understand that by now. Have you ever used Bitcoin? No other branch has the support ETC enjoys. If the EF "dumps to zero" it would be most welcome, as we ETC investors could then cost average down by as much as we like, with full confidence the price will rise after the flash crash. Please Vitalik, give me the opportunity to buy ETC for "one satoshis." |
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7 day window: Classic Branch +68%
Bailout Fork -21% *forkening intensifies*  |
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Market has a ruthlessly honest way of giving their support to something or not.
So do miners. See and monitor into the future this chart: ETC Price / Mining As Factor Of ETH https://slacknation.github.io/medium/13/13.htmlETH forging is down from a peak of around 4400 in the past 72 hours.  |
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Gotta love the taste of those salty ETH bagholders tears.
Blood will be spilled indeed, but not the way the OP assumes it will.
You do realise that all ETH hodlers own an equal amount of ETC criminal coins? You do understand that, right? You do understand that most basic of premises, correct? The most simplest of concepts, yeah? You understand Noddy? Mmm, moar yummy salty tears from Minecrash! You do realize ETH holders already A. Lost their ETC due to scam exchanges like BTC-E and Coinbase being replayed, or B. Already dumped their ETC in futile attempts to discourage the project, and Because FREE MONEY LOL! |
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1FhnVJi2V1k4MqXm2nHoEbY5LV7FPai7bb Ah hah hah hah, this is hilarious! Thank you Mr. Intergalactic StarWhale!! |
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yeah gotta love the hitler vids but no one one noticed Bitpop posted it 11 pages ago? Forum sliding works. That's why the DashHoles post giant irrelevant stock photos whenever someone posts criticism on their thread. |
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All over ETH subreddit the firsts days was how the price of ETC will fall to 0$ but now all i see is panic !
I call this haiku "Sorry For Your Loss."  |
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No, that's not what happened. Vitalik and Tual (and, sadly, Gun) defected to the Bailout Maximalist side. Gavin stayed right where he's always been, on the side of unstoppable code running on an immutable ledger. And that's fine. One Elaine Ou is worth a dozen Vitalik's.  I have a question. Who is Elaine Ou? Is she part of the original Ethereum development team? |
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Is it necessary for the global economy to implode for XMR to grow exponentially? Or will people be able to see the merits of fungible cryptocurrency without calamity?
Define calamity. Capital controls, confiscatory taxation, bail-ins are all good for XMR. These are foreseeable, known unknowns. I don't anticipate that they will be dominant factors in valuation until after the known catalysts have made their primary impact. Regarding knowns: Look to AML/KYC and contraband use-cases. Some consider that history has proven the war on plants to be a calamity, which we are already experiencing in the fullest. I think that will be good for 25x-50x gains in XMR if/when software usability and risk-aversion demand align. Then there are unknown unknowns, unforseen use-cases in which privacy makes the difference between a dark world of calamity, and bright open spaces. If I were to name them, they would no longer be in this category. Very hard to discount, therefore. It's not literally "exponential" until the factors are seen to have compounded. The global economy imploded in 2008. We're just enjoying the late innings of the Extend & Pretend game. Since then, Bitcoin and Monero have risen exponentially. The recent focus on ETC makes me wonder if XMR's best attribute is ring signature-based resistance to mutability (rollbacks, bailouts) in the form of contentious hard forks, or something else we haven't appreciated or even noticed yet. |
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I think Satoshi would be turning in his grave hearing you Spoetniktards comparing him to a common thief.
A "common thief" is utterly incapable of exploiting your shitty TBTF DAO, then in the ensuing chaos triggering the implosion and replacement of the corrupted centralized ecosystem. But I understand why you need to pout and fret: ETH/ETC +50%LOL REKT |
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The media blackout of NXT is so funny. Conspiracy is strong in this one. NXT didn't even make it to the Shit tier. If you don't mention it, it will go away? Fat chance  NXT? At this point, what difference does it make? NXT is less important than BBQcoin, because at least I still want to eat BBQcoin. Ardor? GTFO with your latest token-as-a-platform scam. ETC makes NXT more obsolete than ETH over could. Just give it up. You and the DiamondCoin dead enders have no hope; your zombie coins are just minor footnotes in shitcoin history. At least Dash managed to schlep a soda machine 1000s of miles just to take a selfie with some dude named after a shitty anti-virus.  |
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No, that's not what happened. Vitalik and Tual (and, sadly, Gun) defected to the Bailout Maximalist side. Gavin stayed right where he's always been, on the side of unstoppable code running on an immutable ledger. And that's fine. One Elaine Ou is worth a dozen Vitalik's. |
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Cease and Desist To Bitpop and all other creators/retainers of Ethereum Classic.
You may not be aware of this, but "Ethereum" is a registered trademark, your reckless use of the Ethereum brand has caused substantial losses to our shareholders (in the millions of dollars), in which you can be held responsible.
This is a 0-day notice to immediately change, or remove, in every place possible, your description of Ethereum Classic that does not have any name or mark confusingly similar.
We are choosing not to reveal our identity and give you an opportunity to comply. You are hereby notified that if you do not comply with this request, we will immediately file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission and the Attorney General's office in your state. Civil and criminal claims will be pursued.LMFAO |
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My understanding of the situation is that HF sold (and received payment for) some number of ASIC miners that they did not end up delivering. Receiving payment for something that is never delivered, is in my eyes a scam. I understand that sometimes business does not quite go as planned, however I do not believe that this changes the question of if I believe that HF is a scam.
I understand that all start-ups are very risky, and I understand that some very high percentage of all small businesses/start-ups fail. However if person x were to run a start-up, that start-up were in incur some number of obligations, then the start-up were to fail and not honor those obligations, then I would not trust that person x, nor anyone else that was going around saying that it was appropriate to trust the start-up.
Well there you go. Working Bashing someone off a flawed premise. Take down your negative rating and apologize to the guy. If no units got delivered, how is it possible there is a Hashfast User's Thread? And before anyone tries to say this thread was based on a batch later than the first, it isn't. Batch 1, the one cypherdoc endorsed, did get delivered on or around Jan 22, 2013: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426644.0It looks like according to this article, two of their customers purchased ASICs, were promised delivery by a certain date (or the availability of a refund), however ended up receiving neither. From what I can gather, this was a common theme among their customers. I do not remember posting that HF delivered no units to their customers, and that quote of mine does not say that. @ICEBREAKER - the above article mentions accusations of fraud against both HF and two of their directors Frap.doc, the subject of the OP's defamation, was never a director or exec or employee of HF. He just met them in person and reported his encouraging, positive findings back to the forum. At the time, we were delighted he chose to share rather than hoard that potentially valuable information. But I understand why QS is moving the goalposts to include people and events which occurred long after Frap.doc ceased to be an explicitly compensated endorser. There is a certain kind of social parasite which ingratiates itself to its host community by enthusiastically amplifying and repeating the group's particular totems and taboos. In this instance, Quickseller's repetition of old forgone accusations and condemnations based on counterfactual biases constitutes such overly vigorous social stroking. In his attempt to pile on the wrongly and falsely accused, he's embraced the questionable principle of blaming others for unpredictable events over which they had no control. Nevermind the established fact of their best efforts; who need facts when you've got a witch to hunt? |
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The whole adventure has shown people that there is in fact no secure fast, easy, centralized way to do smart contracting.
FTFY also acceptable:
The whole adventure has shown people that there is in fact no secure way to do smart contracting contentious hard forks.
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