This crypto ecosystem has some serious work to do!!! Im currently in Amsterdam... A supposed bitcoin friendly place... And guess what... It's not! Every place I went to spend bitcoin that said they took bitcoin.. .. Couldn't or Didn't.
Which reminds me how much clowns like aerialbit, icebreaker... Smooth.. And all the other clowns in this invested ecosystem are selfish, self serving a-holes! Instead if reaching out to each other and finding ways to work together and promote the use of bitcoin and alt coins we're slinging shit around like a bunch of 2 years old children.
I'm soooo disappointed... In almost every one involved in this...
What the hell are we doing here... All if us??? Shame on us for not getting this in front if the world with a unified message. Of freedom and hope... Instead of bickering among ourselves. /rant over
Hey bro, I'm all in favor of promoting usage of crypto wherever and whenever possible. EG, I think it's great that DNM are moving away from transparent/traceable/dangerous BTC and towards opaque/anon/safe XMR. OTOH, we see people like toknormal and basilpop doing the sour grapes thing, pretending that Dash is too pure and noble to sully itself with System D adoption. https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/4l6umn/dash_and_darknet/ Darknet prefers the well established (yet centralized and trusted) Bitcoin mixing services, thus acceptance is miniscule. Dash was never actively promoted towards the Darknet
LMFAO. So many lies in such a small quote. Darknet prefers to avoid Blockchain analysis, that's why SIGAINT/OASIS/ALPHABAY are moving away from tumbling/mixing/tangling BTC. And when Nucleus started accepting Dash, there was no end of breathless "ZOMG MOON" hype. Bitfury just published a groundbreaking paper on unraveling Coinjoin, and is about to begin offering such analysis as a professional service. The tools Bitfury is making to unravel Bitcoin will be even more effective on Dash, because Dash has much lower volume than Bitcoin. Read it and weep. https://www.scribd.com/document/322004737/Bitfury-Shared-Send-Untangling-in-Bitcoin-20160821Together with other data mining tools, analysis of shared send transactions forms the analytical backend for Bitfury’s Crystal Blockchain – a web service for blockchain investigations and analysis.
The first public release of the service is scheduled soon after the publication of the present paper. Crystal Blockchain is going to destroy Dash's fake Privacy Theater. Sorry for your loss.
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Fascinating, thanks! Conclusion
Shared send mixing is one of the major types of anonymization techniques in the Bitcoin network.Correspondingly, the problem of untangling shared send transactions (i.e., discovering value flowswithinthetransaction)hasgreatpracticalimportance.
Inthispaper,sharedsendmixingisformalizedusing graph notation. By proving NP-completeness of ambiguous transaction detection problem, we show that this measure to obfuscate transaction history is theoretically effective. However, both limitations on the blockchain space and presence of off-chain data can reduce the effectiveness of shared send mixing.
Our computational experiments show that detection and analysis of shared send mixers is possible in real time for the most of bitcoin transactions.
We also discover that mixing transactions occurquite often on the Bitcoin Blockchain; by our estimations, they constitute about 2.5% of all bitcointransactions. Interestingly, about half of these transactions are able to be untangled. Namely, theycan be uniquely split into two or more sub-transactions, allowing for the restoration of relationshipsamong addresses referenced in the transaction.Together with other data mining tools, analysis of shared send transactions forms the analyticalbackend for Bitfury’s Crystal Blockchain – a web service for blockchain investigations and analysis.The first public release of the service is scheduled soon after the publication of the present paper. IIRC, the problem of Monero transaction untangling cannot be solved in polynomial time, because of ZKP not providing sufficient information to start the linking process (in a bounded/computable way). I'm sure I've mangled something in the above explanation. Factual clarification/correction of my casual understanding seems like an ideal candidate for StackExchange.
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Is make for DASH COIN ANON? ...Here in this POST Roger Ver is say for XMR is more ANON that DASH? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1595182.20is this Roger VER account ? - or fake account? I am doing for selling my LISK to buy a ANON coin...trying to decide make for help? [but but muh Dash hype happy talk] We've heard all that hype and happy talk before. It's just the noise the losing team's cheerleaders make, with no effect on the scoreboard. The DNM operators have decided Monero is the future of ANON, and Dash is just worthless dog shit. Citation 1: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/monero-cryptocurrency-dark-net-drug-dealers-hope-more-anonymous-than-bitcoin-alphabayDash, a cryptocurrency that formerly went by the name Darkcoin, received substantial media attention when a few mid-sized markets implemented it in 2014. Two years later, Dash hasn’t been implemented on any online dark net markets worth noting.
If Monero takes off, it just might be the super-anonymous currency that the web’s secretive drug economy has been waiting for. Citation 2: http://monero7tukbkxn57.onion/What about cryptocurrency X/Y/Z? I heard they can mix/join/ninja vanish.
Bitcoin mixers (even coinjoin) are not enough to maintain transaction unlinkability. Not to mention the Bitcoin blockchain data is currently being mined and sold to law enforcement.
Dash's supernodes could collude to reveal who you are.
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I repeatedly said an honest and fair price for Monero is about $4 to $5 by this fall. I think next year we may see $40. I think by 2020 we will see $2000, and by 2030 we may see $100,000+.
lol cocaine is a hell of a drug..... Found the DashHoles. Monero flew past $5 and went to almost $7 yesterday. Dash is going down and never coming back up, because: And ^that's^ your Quote Of The Day.
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Has XMR been introduced to Chinese exchanges or do yall have plans to advertise to them?
Are there Chinese DNMs? Do they know about Monero?
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@Poloniex
2 of 2 - On 9/5/2016, the following markets will be delisted: MINT, MMC, MNTA, PIGGY, PTS, SILK, SWARM, WDC, XC, XCR, XPB, XUSD, YACC https://twitter.com/Poloniex/status/767902690689056768XC deprecated by Poloniex
#R3KT
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just wait for the news "about a currency that is better and faster compared to bitcoin" being used in dark markets that is untraceable and gives anonymity to its users.
panic will ensue and XMR will enter a new ALL TIME HIGH.
Can we get Wikileaks and Snowden to accept XMR? Let's pose as outraged Chuck Schumer constituents in a moral panic over Alphabay, demanding Something Be Done. With luck he'll hold a press conference blasting Monero, and aaww-way we go (to the MOON)!
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Wow, that's not good. It's amateur hour over at the Dash compound. First the instamine, now this RNG fail and fork. No wonder Monero is eating their market cap.
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Hello clowns. Not a single big red nose around here?
I heard we're waiting for Bitcoin sidechains to be ready for the Dash Classic launch. Mimblewimble provides much faster+better privacy than Dash's slow+broken "snake oil" version of Coinjoin.
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These papers absolutely must be read. Wow, talk about a blast from the past! From #6 Walter Wriston, former chairman of Citibank, devoted a chapter of his brilliant 1992 book The Twilight of Sovereignty to the history of cryptography. Wriston foresaw the weakening of national governments through the power of technology and recognized that cryptography would play a key role. He knew something about it from personal experience. During World War II he was responsible for the electromechanical devices used by the Allies to encrypt their messages. Wriston sees encryption technology as a key ingredient in the transfer of social and economic power from the governments of nation-states to the PC-packing populace. Since the success of Internet commerce depends on strong cryptography, its proliferation is inevitable. “The government can’t do much about it,” says Wriston. “It’s another thing slipping through their fingers.”
Rejoice, libertarians. Lament, Hillary Clinton and partisans of the nanny state. If you want to participate in the cryptographic revolution against Big Government, you don’t have to traffic with an arms merchant in a dark alley. Go to the Internet. #GrokTheEthos
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I would like to take ownership back in case nobody else wants his very own Monero node for the equivalent of just 4$ per month (payable in Bitcoin, or Monero through XMR.to). I'd like to sponsor a node or two (or five) with i2p and/or TOR "bridge" (clearnet <-> darknet) functionality. Any idea how much extra that would cost? https://bitcoinism.liberty.me/only-the-black-market-matters/Only the Black Market Matters By Justus Ranvier This can not be emphasized strongly enough: the underground economy employed half the world’s workers as of 2009, and is growing rapidly.
Every time a new startup launches, or a new software project announces, ask one question: “Does this new thing improve the black market?”
If the answer to this question is “no”, then the thing is useless.
So bring on the money laundering, tax evasion, drug marketplace, and unregulated taxi service software. Anyone who isn’t actively working to expand and empower the informal economy is wasting their time.
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Go Dash! I just bought some on yobit for the first time in a long time, but they're saying withdrawal for Dash is temporarily turned off. Is that because of the forking thing? Has that been resolved? I'm not even going to try to talk to yobit.
Dash's forking risk increases to the point of certainty as Derpfield piles on additional layers of untested homespun convoluted crap crypto. Your situation with Yobit is hilarious and I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. Dash's market cap is tending towards zero as Monero goes hyperbolic. It's irresponsible to trust 3rd parties like Masternodes; no DNM that isn't a honey pot will let their users compromise themselves and others using Dash's fake/slow "snakeoil" (per Peter Todd) privacy. When XMR passes Dash's market cap perhaps a few of the less Kool-Aidy members of the cargo cult will see the light and dump their Masternodes while their worth >nothing.
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Nice! Has K. Hill from Forbes reported on ETC yet? She's the gold standard for crypto-drama stories.
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Can anyone explain this?
Using the exact same commands and same equipment, just different pools and wallets - one for ETH-F and one for ETH-C.....
ethminer --farm-recheck 300 -G -t 4 -F <pool and wallet address> --cl-local-work 256 --cl-global-work 16896
All my other GPU platforms are mining ETH-F happily, I'm leaving them to do their thing... so I'm playing around with this dual R9 295X2 miner. When I mine ETH-F , my hash rate is between 136MH and 148MH on dwarfpool - watching the hashrate scrolling on the miner, I see upper 120's all the way to the mid 140's. Also, the mining time is faster .300-.400 second for each chunk mined. ( sorry, I don't know what that is actually called to refer to the time statistic properly )
Mining ETH-C on Nanopool or solo mining off my geth wallet/node, the hashrate is a whole whopping 50-60MH on Nanopool while my reported hashrate is up to 120'ish , solo mining hashrate I see the hashrate on the miner scrolling by also in the 50's and 60MH range. The mining time on ETH-C is slower at .800-.900 second range.
Why is there such a difference?
With my mining power cut in half basically, mining ETH-C, that makes profit on this system a whopping $0.54 / day, where as ETC-F, I have a profit of $6.73 / day because the miner mines faster on ETH-F
$16 vs $201 per month after electricity is taken out ... Heck, if that's the case for everyone, no wonder ETH-C is dying, its just plain out not worth it.... literally!
But still, I'd like to hear some reason's why there is such a difference in hashrate and mining times.
People mine ETC to demonstrate support for the original immutable Code Is Law chain and opposition to the ETH Bailout Fork. Some miners may have an investment thesis like Silbert's, wherein ETC tends towards or even exceeds ETH parity, and they won't sell until that happens. With all the exchange risk floating around, mining is also the safest way to acquire ETC, as no individual counterparty is involved.
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Monero is enjoying a surge based on the good news trifecta of - DNM Oasis implementing XMR "soon" - RingCT reaching privacy Holy Grail - Official GUI very very very "soon" - Great Success at StackExchange Meanwhile, Dash can't even come close to achieving StackEx listing, and its price is floundering after yet another Otoh-based pump and dump.
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Interesting! They all want Etc, and we made bitcoinmag, and a 100% from Guo. it all comes in threes Moon rocket fueling complete. All Systems Guo!
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Oasis implementation confirmed.
Hello, We're currently working on implementing it soon! Oasis LMAO
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