It doesn't fill me with confidence that 2 of the 3 keyholders in a 2 out of 3 multisig are actually part of the komodo team. You may aswell have no escrow. http://archive.is/6hg11Just send your BTC directly to jl777, or 1bitcoineater. Same difference. |
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It's hard not to be disconcerted about the lack of a GUI after more than two years. I know it's coming "soonish", as it has been for 1+ years. However, at this point it's certainly holding back adoption at a time when adoption is poised to explode.
Got a pull request? Complaining accomplishes nothing. I think everyone understands the situation. If you can't contribute code, your dev fund contribution is quite welcome. I have contributed to the dev fund. Can you please direct me to the thread where I can speculate about how the lack of basic UI features may affect the price? Perhaps a Monero speculation thread? I understand the GUI gripes are tiresome (here's looking at you, N-rG). The "Fuck you. Go code a GUI." responses are getting old too. Make stupid posts, win stupid responses!  The more the bratty moonchildren pout about the lack of an Official GUI, the funnier it gets to me. As if stomping their feet and repetitiously asking "are we there yet?" will speed up development. These high time preference neurotypicals are like the Gavinistas, unwilling to wait for proper Layer 2 Bitcoin scaling and loudly demanding Something Be Done "Right Meow!!!!1!" When I watch my friend's kids and they start being overbearing about a request, I tell them further nagging will result in penalty delays. Despite being only a few years old, they understand instantly and stop whining.
I propose we cancel the GUI project entirely, to buy the community a few more precious months off putting of our Eternal September.infofront, just filter out icebreakers childish response. Read his trust summary for entertainment instead  And right on cue, ^^^there's a moonchild from the failed BlackCoin pump, crying because he can't learn to use a CLI. If coinism wants to ignore someone because of scam accusations from 2014 that ultimately went nowhere in Court, that's fine. But he shouldn't presume to police the interactions of infofront. Coinism is a noob that backed the wrong (black) horse, so I understand why insecurity compels him to challenge Monero elders. So to make a point, I've left him negative feedback for pages of shameless, extensive BlackCoin (LOOL) pumping, scam site exco.in shilling, and "zomg XMR y u no have GUI" FUD.  Looks like i hit the spot  you love to get personal with people and throw insults - that's not good, helps nobody. just makes you look childish and insecure. I've got no beef with nobody and certainly not going to spend anymore time on your negative responses. i try to stop people attacking others, especially new adopters of XMR. you assume too much. Fact 1: most of your posts on BTCT are pumping the BlackCoin scam Fact 2: you helped advertise the failed exco.in scam Fact 3: you've been needling the XMR community about 'zomg where's the GUI we need it RIGHT MEOW' since 2014 Fact 4: you presume to tell others who they shouldn't interact with Now say "childish" again, because I know that's your favorite personal insult. Enjoyed your well deserved negative trust. |
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It's hard not to be disconcerted about the lack of a GUI after more than two years. I know it's coming "soonish", as it has been for 1+ years. However, at this point it's certainly holding back adoption at a time when adoption is poised to explode.
Got a pull request? Complaining accomplishes nothing. I think everyone understands the situation. If you can't contribute code, your dev fund contribution is quite welcome. I have contributed to the dev fund. Can you please direct me to the thread where I can speculate about how the lack of basic UI features may affect the price? Perhaps a Monero speculation thread? I understand the GUI gripes are tiresome (here's looking at you, N-rG). The "Fuck you. Go code a GUI." responses are getting old too. Make stupid posts, win stupid responses! The more the bratty moonchildren pout about the lack of an Official GUI, the funnier it gets to me. As if stomping their feet and repetitiously asking "are we there yet?" will speed up development. These high time preference neurotypicals are like the Gavinistas, unwilling to wait for proper Layer 2 Bitcoin scaling and loudly demanding Something Be Done "Right Meow!!!!1!" When I watch my friend's kids and they start being overbearing about a request, I tell them further nagging will result in penalty delays. Despite being only a few years old, they understand instantly and stop whining.
I propose we cancel the GUI project entirely, to buy the community a few more precious months off putting of our Eternal September.infofront, just filter out icebreakers childish response. Read his trust summary for entertainment instead And right on cue, ^^^there's a moonchild from the failed BlackCoin pump, crying because he can't learn to use a CLI. If coinism wants to ignore someone because of scam accusations from 2014 that ultimately went nowhere in Court, that's fine. But he shouldn't presume to police the interactions of infofront. Coinism is a noob that backed the wrong (black) horse, so I understand why insecurity compels him to challenge Monero elders. So to make a point, I've left him negative feedback for pages of shameless, extensive BlackCoin (LOOL) pumping, scam site exco.in shilling, and "zomg XMR y u no have GUI" FUD. |
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like i said another dump. I'll wait to buy some more at 5K satoshi.
Is BlackCoin used for something other than pumps and dumps? Wasn't the staking wallet supposed to be done years ago? Seems like abandonware at this point.  Can't believe anyone actually took this project seriously at any time, but some people devoted dozens of posts to discussing it a length. No shortage of suckers in the alt space I guess! |
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It's hard not to be disconcerted about the lack of a GUI after more than two years. I know it's coming "soonish", as it has been for 1+ years. However, at this point it's certainly holding back adoption at a time when adoption is poised to explode.
Got a pull request? Complaining accomplishes nothing. I think everyone understands the situation. If you can't contribute code, your dev fund contribution is quite welcome. I have contributed to the dev fund. Can you please direct me to the thread where I can speculate about how the lack of basic UI features may affect the price? Perhaps a Monero speculation thread? I understand the GUI gripes are tiresome (here's looking at you, N-rG). The "Fuck you. Go code a GUI." responses are getting old too. Make stupid posts, win stupid responses! The more the bratty moonchildren pout about the lack of an Official GUI, the funnier it gets to me. As if stomping their feet and repetitiously asking "are we there yet?" will speed up development. These high time preference neurotypicals are like the Gavinistas, unwilling to wait for proper Layer 2 Bitcoin scaling and loudly demanding Something Be Done "Right Meow!!!!1!" When I watch my friend's kids and they start being overbearing about a request, I tell them further nagging will result in penalty delays. Despite being only a few years old, they understand instantly and stop whining.
I propose we cancel the GUI project entirely, to buy the community a few more precious months off putting of our Eternal September. |
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That whole thread is a hoot and a half. Thanks. Monero under $25. What are you waiting for? Why is it locked? It kind of makes sense for it to be a historical preserve museum thread, but that logic isn't used by the sysops. EG, I could pop off right now and quote Satoshi in hundreds of unlocked Golden Age threads (though may get a ban for necromancing). iCEBREAKER, I dug that up looking for one I was quite sure was yours. Something about 'Monero is under a dollar. What are you waiting for? Christmas?' Do you recall? Yes, I recall being delighted with someone reminding me I was quoting the inestimable Duke Nukem!  That thread really brought out the haters who were threatened by Monero offering legitimate competition to Bitcoin and their favorite shitcoin-of-the-month.  |
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That whole thread is a hoot and a half. Thanks. Monero under $25. What are you waiting for? Why is it locked? It kind of makes sense for it to be a historical preserve museum thread, but that logic isn't used by the sysops. EG, I could pop off right now and quote Satoshi in hundreds of unlocked Golden Age threads (though may get a ban for necromancing). |
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None of this navel-gazing about whether or not the AppStore should disappear in a puff of logic and justice has one iota of relevance to Dash Masternodes failing the Howey test, and thus creating a situation where Apple could be sued by the SEC (for obvious reasons) and their own investors (for incompetence or malpractice or whatever you call it when executives ignore their lawyers and thus destroy value).
I'm still not sure whether THIS is the reason (the real reason, not necessarily the announced reason). It might just be a matter of image and "we're a law abiding company that stays away from dark net stuff". The real test would be whether Apple accepts monero to be taken up, or zcash. Then this would be cleared out. If monero is refused also, it is because Apple doesn't want to be associated with the "dark net anonymity" image. If monero is accepted, your explanation might very well be true. But I suspect that Apple is rather "corporate", and wants to give a public impression of law abiding. It depends on what the majority of their customers think. As any company should care about. If Apple didn't want to taint their law-abiding image, they would have never allowed Bitcoin anything to begin with. Monero's recent massive relative gains aside, I'm fairly certain ~95% of "dark net stuff" commerce is conducted using Bitcoin, which due to orders-of-magnitude higher numbers of CoinJoin, etc. participants offers "dark net anonymity" far superior to Dash's unusably slow, obscure, lightly used DarkSend feature. But you did specify that "image" may be Apple's (illogical) concern, so my response there is that the godawful optics of Dash's well known instamine scandal and Ponzi-like Masternode HYIP should fairly dominate any trace of DNM association left from the Darkcoin days (when only one or two sites briefly experimented with adoption). Perhaps we'll find out more when Dash finally gets around to performing the legal due diligence which should have been done at the very start of the project, or at the very least before introducing Masternodes (complete with a table of absurdly high ROI figures). |
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Apple didn't make Dash run afoul of security regulations, which BTW have nothing to do with your DRM bugbear.
Please explain why it is in Apple's interests or within its obligations to provide a platform and thus incur liability for scamcoins which fail the Howey test.
Must Apple be completely content agnostic, and open their walled garden to every fake Bitcoin wallet and OneCoin type HYIP that wants access to their customers, who are paying a premium for the curation which provies a superior user experience?
Apple can curate their store all they want. There is nothing wrong with that. What I find particularly reprehensible and Orwellian is that Apple goes out of its way to prevent the users of the devices they sold and no longer own from obtaining applications form other stores or directly from the application developers. If an end user wants a store curated by Apple then they can choose to only obtain their software from Apple's store; however if an end user wishes to obtain software from other stores or sources for the devices they own then that is their right. When it comes to their own store of course Apple should not be agnostic, but when it comes to devices they sold and no longer own, then it is simply non of their business what software the new owners of those devices choose to run or not to run on those devices. The question of a particular piece of software being a scam or not is completely irrelevant in the latter case. Edit 1: What part of centuries old concept of private ownership of property is so hard to understand here? Edit 2: Preventing the new owners of the devices from obtaining their applications from any source they so choose, actually creates a situation where Apple is always in the wrong with respect to their own store. This happens when choosing to list or not list an application on their store because in many cases it can be both inappropriate for Apple to list an application, and also inappropriate to censor an application by not listing it. Apple's trendy, status-seeking customers may own the hardware, but they AFAIK only license the OS software. Otherwise Apple could charge them for updates and eschew responsibility for shipping bug patches to the as is/caveat emptor product. Legality aside, I have no issue with the ethics of those who preserve their freedom to tinker by ignoring Apple's arguably abusive TOS. If you want to make a compatible " clean room" FOSS replacement for iOS equivalent to Android's Cyanogen project, I might even donate XMR in support of the effort. You and I may strenuously disagree with Apple's decision to create tension with the age old first-sale doctrine, but we are free to refuse to give them our business (and speak often and loudly to encourage others to refrain from doing so as well). Put another way, it would be even more authoritarian if we made the government(s) big enough to force Apple to do what ArcticMine, rather than Tim Cook, prefers in their course of private enterprise. Notice the free market is already punishing Apple's approach by taking away swaths of their market share and giving it to competitors. None of this navel-gazing about whether or not the AppStore should disappear in a puff of logic and justice has one iota of relevance to Dash Masternodes failing the Howey test, and thus creating a situation where Apple could be sued by the SEC (for obvious reasons) and their own investors (for incompetence or malpractice or whatever you call it when executives ignore their lawyers and thus destroy value). |
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... So every individual or company that enjoys the ( Constitutionally mandated) protection of their intellectual propery is As Bad As Stalin? ,,, Or worse. In the digital age one actually needs that level or worse of oppression to actually enforce "protection of intellectual property" against end users. Copyright itself is not the issue. It is when companies attempt to forcibly prevent others from infringing copyright. Edit 1: I did not choose Dash as the martyr, Apple did. Edit 2: When standing up for freedom, it is especially important to stand up in cases where one may not be particularly sympathetic to the victim. Apple didn't make Dash run afoul of security regulations, which BTW have nothing to do with your DRM bugbear. Please explain why it is in Apple's interests or within its obligations to provide a platform and thus incur liability for scamcoins which fail the Howey test. Must Apple be completely content agnostic, and open their walled garden to every fake Bitcoin wallet and OneCoin type HYIP that wants access to their customers, who are paying a premium for the curation which provies a superior user experience? |
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Bitcoin is barely ready to accommodate "an investor." The Winklevoss ETF process is a barometer of that immaturity. No altcoin is ready for anything beyond the wildest, wooliest-eyed get-rich-quick speculation. You're here for the pump and dump, and don't care about the tech even if you understood it. I'm here primarily for intellectual pursuits; intramurals such as trolling scams like BTCD and KoMoDo are just a nice diversion. Case in point: you guys are having waaay more fun ganging up on me than discussing the (shared) point that "no one is exactly banging down the door to use BTCD."You really think you are "investing" in BTCD and its convoluted consequent exit scam? You millennials are so cute sometimes!  "You millennials are so cute sometimes!" One word: HASHFAST. How did you manage to get your scammer reputation fixed? Seem to remember you being red as a lobster after your shilling for a scam. I fixed my damaged reputation by being prescient and absolutely correct about many other things, such "XT/Classic will get rekt," "Monero will go to the moon," and the soon to be famous 2015 prediction that " BTCD would be abandoned like ICOscam777's dozens of other unregistered investment schemes." I know millennials are incapable of paying attention to anything for more than 30 seconds, but please avail yourself of the latest (IE this year's) developments, rather than relying on ancient rumors and groupthink. tl;dr Hashfast successfully made the world's fastest mining ASIC and the scam accusations from 2014 went nowhere in both of the court cases where they would be supremely relevant. But by all means, keep using old debunked urban legends about a bankrupt tech start-up as a cudgel with which to bash me for all eternity. Your risk-averse, terrified of failure attitude is a perfect example of Generation Snowflake's asinine "we are all winners" gestalt. Many American and Russian astronauts died screaming in horrible fiery deaths during failed attempts to escape earth's gravity well, but according to your logic they should have just stayed safe at home rather than trying something new and wildly audacious for the sake of advancing mankind. Best efforts do not entitle anyone to success. There is honor in making a brave attempt and no shame in failure if it's unavoidable. That's what you gormless Ritalin junkies don't get, and why you are so fucking worthless. |
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When the walls of Apple's curated garden have watchtowers staffed with armed guards to prevent defections, your tortured, hyperbolic analogy will be more apt and a less self-pitying, maudlin overstretch of metaphorical inference.
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They are: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1204 United States So every individual or company that enjoys the ( Constitutionally mandated) protection of their intellectual propery is As Bad As Stalin? There's the tortured, hyperbolic "ZOMG STASI" analogy I was talking about again. That's beyond a mere stretch; you're getting well into advanced conceptual yoga.... If you want to abolish copyright, trademark, and patents, work with the Pirate Party and pass an amendment. Good luck with that, especially if you insist on using Dash as the martyed poster child for your "Freedom To Scam" campaign. |
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Di Iorio then speaks with a representative of the company a couple days later. He’s informed Apple should not have approved Jaxx wallet featuring Dash functions and they don’t approve of Dash, a blockchain some tout as hosting solutions to some of the Ethereum blockchain’s shortcomings. During the unexpected conversation, Di Iorio learned which crypto-currencies Apple approves: Bitcoin, Dogecoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, the DAO and Ripple. Apple was “tight-lipped” about their reasoning. Di Iorio sprung into action. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/apple-dash-dashpay/Yes The DAO is currently approved by the Big Brother (Apple) censorship board. The very same DAO that was so poorly coded, that it was hacked and drained of over 100 million USD worth of Ethereum. The very same DAO that led to the ETH / ETC fork. The very same DAO that has been forked out of existence by the ETH / ETC fork. Need one say more. As for the Soviet Union it suffered that same fate that Apple will face for essentially the same reasons. The requirement to get permission in order to innovate and either banning or heavily taxing any form of innovation or entrepreneurship. A 30% tax on gross sales is a brutal way to tax a business. Yawn. Wake me up when Apple has a monopoly not only on overpriced gimmicky watches, mp3 players, phones, and apps, but also on the use of force in a geographical area. When the walls of Apple's curated garden have watchtowers staffed with armed guards to prevent defections, your tortured, hyperbolic analogy will be more apt and a less self-pitying, maudlin overstretch of metaphorical inference. Until then: Don't like Apple? Don't use Apple. Problem solved! All of this "Apple is worse than Stalin  " crap is just a cute way of sidestepping the letter of Godwin's Law, while violating the spirit. And this is coming from someone who despises Apple and everything they stand for (but still respects free markets). Wandering back within the narrow confines of the thread's topic, Apple's top shelf legal dept. determined Dash's Masternode HYIP and centralized governance structure almost certainly run afoul of the Howey test. Apple doesn't need the liability of hosting illegal unregistered securities, so Dash got thrown out. It's really not that complicated. No need to get cranky and start grinding the old saw of longstanding anti-Apple/DRM/The Man/Babylon System/neoimperialism butthurt; especially when it distracts and deflects from the OP. |
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I investigate altcoins as part of the same long term interest in computer science and particularly liberation technology which led me to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is barely ready to accommodate "an investor." The Winklevoss ETF process is a barometer of that immaturity. No altcoin is ready for anything beyond the wildest, wooliest-eyed get-rich-quick speculation. You're here for the pump and dump, and don't care about the tech even if you understood it.I'm here primarily for intellectual pursuits; intramurals such as trolling scams like BTCD and KoMoDo are just a nice diversion. Case in point: you guys are having waaay more fun ganging up on me than discussing the (shared) point that "no one is exactly banging down the door to use BTCD."You really think you are "investing" in BTCD and its convoluted consequent exit scam? You millennials are so cute sometimes! When you assume you look like an ass. Oh wow, never heard that one before. Such original wit! Did your sophomore English teacher introduce you that devastating zinger? A year ago, I assumed BTCD would be abandoned like ICOscam777's dozens of other unregistered investment schemes. That assumption was correct. You are salty AF because your bags of "Bitcoin" Dark are going to be diluted to homeopathic levels.... |
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this is the biggest fallout JL could do...his only supporters, the BTCD crowd, i.e. the same people who invested in SN, and apart from the handful of buy-in fans that pre-arranged this fiasco, are so pissed off now that they will march against this ICO rendering it an utter failure. He may be smart but to screw over his only supporters was a fatal mistake. Please keep posting bitkokos2 (and others who JL made so many promises)...this Komodo coin must not get beyond it's own shit in the cage...because it is disgusting.
edit: I suggest JL come up with a better plan to support the BTCD investors or Komodo will fail.
1. create, hype, and pump BTCD 2. unofficially abandon incomplete BTCD project 3. work on random other ICOs for two years 4. officially abandon incomplete BTCD project 5. Good News Everyone! Your BTCD investment is being diluted to almost nothing because the dev wants MOAR money 6.  7. Profit Seems Legit. What could go wrong? |
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DASH just got banned from the Apple store, probably for being an illegal unregistered security.
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I have to disagree with this. I actually consider being banned by Apple to be very honourable and also bullish for Dash. The whole premise of the Apple IOS model is taking all of human knowledge and placing it before a censorship board operated by Big Brother (Apple). Big Brother then decides what the citizens of Oceania (iSheep) may use, view or listen to. This is all enforced by the Ministry of Truth (DRM) with severe punishments for those who seek knowledge not approved by the Ministry of Truth (United States Digital Millennium Copyright Act, and similar laws against circumvention of technological protection measures worldwide). The one thing George Orwell got wrong in 1984 is that people were not carrying the telescreens in their pockets. Thankfully freedom is slowly winning over tyranny. In 2011 IOS had 60% of the mobile market. Now it has dropped to 27%. https://www.netmarketshare.com/. To the Dash community I have one message: Wear your Apple ban with honour. It is something to be proud of, not ashamed of. Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtvjbmoDx-I. The real Big Brother will appear at the very end. So when Apple likewise bans fake Bitcoin wallets and other Dash-type malware/scamware from its walled garden, is that also a jackboot stomping on the face of humanity forever? Perhaps we should nationalize Apple, and make it for faaaair for every dev whose software did not meet the quality control requirements Apple enforces on behalf of its customers. And why should people even be allowed to have the option of buying, owning, and using Apple products, when their corporate practices are such anathema to our fundamental common values as a species sharing a small blue dot ( * SOB SOB SOB* ). This a perfect example of market failure, which requires government intervention. There should be a law requiring everyone to use Android instead. Because Freedom ®. We need the strictest measures possible to stop this company from selling things to the mindless bourgeois consumers who want to buy and use them. I modestly propose all federal, state, and local officials (even teachers) be given shoot-on-sight orders with regard to Apple users. We shall not tolerate Apple's malignant oppression one moment longer! Forward, Soviets! |
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Will BTCD be all converted into this one? Or will they coexist? What's the point of switching to Komodo if BTCD has so much more potential?
Komodo is BTCD 2.0 why you will be able to swap your BTCD at a bonus. Komodo includes all of BTCD's potential and more. Because I have never heard of Komodo being in the center of Supernet, Iguana and other connected projects ... All projects that were going to use BTCD in their tech, will now use Komodo. As Komodo is BTCD 2.0. There better be a far greater argument than that, cause no one is exactly banging down the door to use BTCD. So far the most compelling reason to support Komodo is that Icebreaker hates it. Well that is a valid reason, but then again he hates anything that he isnt a bag holder in so..... I like to think he's an investor or was at some point. From a time is money standpoint, it's not logical for someone to spend hours reading and making posts over the years about a project if they are not invested. Having some trolls is good for every ico thread, in my opinion. He bumps the thread and sparks banter/discussion. This last response shows exactly why you moon children have it all wrong. I investigate altcoins as part of the same long term interest in computer science and particularly liberation technology which led me to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is barely ready to accommodate "an investor." The Winklevoss ETF process is a barometer of that immaturity. No altcoin is ready for anything beyond the wildest, wooliest-eyed get-rich-quick speculation. You're here for the pump and dump, and don't care about the tech even if you understood it. I'm here primarily for intellectual pursuits; intramurals such as trolling scams like BTCD and KoMoDo are just a nice diversion. Case in point: you guys are having waaay more fun ganging up on me than discussing the (shared) point that "no one is exactly banging down the door to use BTCD."You really think you are "investing" in BTCD and its convoluted consequent exit scam? You millennials are so cute sometimes! |
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Locking up DASH in masternodes artificially keeps the price high.
DASH would be much lower if this whole masternode scheme did not require users to lock up 1000 dash.
Barrier to entry for new users is way too high. Not a welcoming coin to new users that can't afford 1000 dash.
Locking Dash up in HYIP Ponzi nodes isn't real demand qua economic praxis; it's merely self-referential Demand Theater. But don't worry, when the price falls to a few satoshis everyone will be able to afford 1000 Dash. Although by then nobody will want such a useless thing, seeing as how a truly anonymous currency, BBR, is going to be using high-staking tier two nodes for the same purposes. |
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I am much more concerned with the number of masternode owners than the number of masternodes.
The Masternoder count...is still going lower!!!!!!  ~4 Masternoders and falling. Unbelievable! |
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