Listening right now. Respect is due for being willing to go on the show and be grilled under intense questioning about semi-unfamiliar topics. Too bad Duffield is a coward and prefers to hide under his marketing booth babe's skirt. Mandy has good instincts (Go Ron Paul!) but doesn't understand how proof of work enforces Nakamoto Consensus, the basis of Bitcoin-like e-cash's security (theft/duplication resistance). The massive sense of entitlement and technical cluelessness required to ask Gavin to shift almost half of BTC's 21e6 coin block reward from miners to full nodes is astonishing. The delicate balance of incentives is how Satoshi breathed life into the network, yet Mandy goes full Space Ghost with her "I just heard about Bitcoin and I'm here to fix it!" Mandy also doesn't understand or appreciate Lightning, because she thinks it "sounds like banks" and isn't "on-chain" (and probably because it makes Dash obviously obsolete). When pressed on specifics about Dash's network and security, the hand-waving ("come at Dash, bro, I invite it") and deflection ("I'd love for you to come to the Dash forums") begins. What we have here is basically yet another disgruntled/poutraged "IMPLEMENT [MY IDEA] RIGHT MEOW" buttcoiner. I've seen DashHoles use the Gavinista insurgency as a way to pump Dash before; it wasn't pretty. Funny how Mandy gives Duffield the benefit of the doubt (IE assumes the best) w/r/t the Instamine/CoinJoin/InstantX, yet assumes the worst of Core and Blockstream's motivations ("zomg Bilderblockers' nefarious stream-blocking"). Enthusiasm for a shitcoin like Dash, skepticism of Bitcoin. Go figure.  Mandy didn't grow up nerd and that's OK. She's teachable (IE, may be deprogrammed from the cargo cult brainwashing), and we who did should help provide the Deep Background needed to bring her up to speed. Here's the canonical origin story of the Sybil Attack, which is the most glaringly dangerous deficiency in her inadequate conceptual toolkit. (Hat tip: Dan Kaminsky) http://wirm.net/nightfreeze/part1.htmlSo here it is.. The Great Scam. ________________________________________________________ This is a story of deception, intrigue, and doublecrossing. It is a story of liars, bandits, and greed. It is a story of the worst of the human condition, and how the motive for profit will drive a normally nice guy to the deepest depths of evil and betrayal. This is the story of my life in Eve Online. Mandy: I'm a car salesman. BU: You're a pumper. Mandy: How would you define "pumper?" BU (in unison): Car salesman!  #REKT #EMBARRASSED |
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To be fair, Evan can come here and once again state his case, whereupon I may further amend the list in the OP (go see the edit now). Evan never came here to state his case, yet you took him off the list despite the overwhelming evidence presented here on this thread. Why do you still list people from Hashfast who have since been vindicated by the legal process (cases dismissed/terminated), yet let someone who won't show his face on BitcoinUncensored for fear of being exposed? Former Dash pumper Tone Vays has come to acknowledge the fact Dash's instamine is Proof of Scam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u6aA0vUKOQ&feature=youtu.be&t=3221Gleb, you need to learn more about the instamine: twitter.com/Tone_LLT/status/717822927908024320 Clue up, old bean! Stop carrying water for Evan the Instaminer, or you start to look like a (mysteriously selective) scam enabler. |
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Thenext most demanding cryptocurrency and blockchain feature is fungibility sufficient to provide privacy.
Blacklisting should be impossible at the protocol level, because all the coins are 100% exactly alike.
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We just saw 8k of Dash market dumped and 35k of Monero market bought within a couple of hours of each other.
Has Dashxit 2016 begun?
The thing about the masternode scheme is that it pays to be the first to panic, which incites further panic and exacerbates the problem.
It's not so much the reward for being first, as it is the penalty for not being first. In the traditional theater metaphor, you end up dying in a fire if you don't move quickly and quietly towards an exit as soon as you smell smoke. Dash order books are very thin vs the number of Masternodes that may be liquidated/hacked/seized/etc. Only need 2% of the 4000 total to get dumped and it's Game Over, Man. The whale intentionally propping the price up at 0.01 looks like he's almost exhausted... Anybody else getting a whiff of #DashNation burning? |
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I got myself a Monero addy JUST to see how much you really love me.
2 threads about me isn't good enough, put your money where your mouth is! I'll be waiting!
If you're serious then come over to the Monero reddit with you're usual handle. BTW, I'm an ex-Dash user too. Apparently, TheDashGuy is too talented, honest, and hardworking to stay in the Evan's Gate cargo cult; he's simply not a good fit for Team Snake Oil's den of vipers. EG: TheDashGuy tried to get Dash onto Stack Exchange, but his fellow DashHoles couldn't be bothered to get the proposal over 10%. Just wanted to give this thread a much needed bump.
You guys are slacking Dash community, we need ALOT more of you over at stack exchange please. Stop thinking "someone else will do it", what is this, the presidential election? Granted, it took some time and effort to get Monero all the way to 100%, but Dash's sock-puppeting to 10% and quitting is completely fucking pathetic. There is no chance DuffCoin will get to 100%, because 90% of its supposed community support is actually+demonstrably useless, ignorant, and/or fake. Dash is a laughingstock and being openly mocked in its own Area51: http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/23498/where-do-all-these-followers-of-the-proposal-dash-come-fromProposal: Dash
I have noticed that this proposal gained 37 followers in only 2 days after it was proposed. However, when one looks at the list of followers, almost all of them are new users which registered just before they followed the proposal and have not contributed in any other way to the Stackexchange network.
This is a highly unusual pattern, so I believe that the moderators should investigate if these are maybe sock puppet accounts made to fake interest in this proposal.
I suspect that we see another case here of yet another cryptocurrency going through a pump-and-dump scheme where the creator pre-mines some coins, generates hype around it, sells their coins when they get value and then forgets about it. #rekt |
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I don't know why would the community and the team be in conflict
The community and team are in conflict because they are fighting over the same limited sum of Budget Block coins.
There is also additional conflict because if the core team controls ~everything, the project is obviously not decentralized. |
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Sorry but in the OP (and linked Dashtalk threads) it's Dash insiders like TheDashGuy, vertoe, and Camosoul bashing Dash, its shitty governance/community, and fake decentralization theater. Unless you have proof TheDashGuy and Camosoul have joined the Monero gang? Is it true?  |
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TheDashGuy is known to be a loose canon and cant handle it when people dont do exactly what he/she says.
Oh look, a DashHole cult enforcer appears to attack-the-attacker. Typical. TheDashGuy isn't the only one calling BS on Dash. vertoe did it first. Camosoul is also fed up. They were both quoted in the OP, yet you only single out TDG for the invalidation-via-personal-criticism treatment. Don't forget to "explain" why vertoe and Camosoul's criticisms are merely the result of their massive personal flaws, and thus invalid opinions about Dash.  Or do you agree with Camosoul's POV? |
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oh wooww, moonero jumped 10 %
It doesn't hurt that XMR's biggest "privacy coin" competition, Dash, is in the middle of an increasingly bitter civil war! https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-this-picture-i-thought-we-were-a-decentralized-project.9229/ I know see why vertoe left by the way. Same shit. Same problems.
I can't tell what they're fighting over, but it appears to be a power struggle between self-appointed amateur community leaders "coordinators" and the core team, in which the amateurs want some of same the sweet free Dash now being enjoyed by the Official bigwigs. This is an entirely predictable outcome, as I warned the zero-sum nature of their Budget Block funding system, which creates winners and losers, inevitably pits people against each other, based on Masternode votes skewed by the instamine's maldistribution of coins. Their ongoing "Digital Democracy" debacle (more like Distributed Anonymous Bikeshedding ) demonstrates the superiority of Monero's open-ended/positive-sum Forum Funding System, where we can make as much pie as we like rather than fighting over the scrapes of centralized budgeting. After the DAO hack, hype and decentralization theater are no longer in greater demand than quality projects with solid security and proven crypto. Expect more of Dash's market cap to leak into Monero's, as the wheels continue to come off the Duffmobile's HYIP noob-scamming vehicle. |
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You can't win with Mrs Thatcher.
First she makes the chronic criticism that there's no dissent in the community. Then she makes the criticism that there's dissent.
Superb !
If Dash survives harsh (perhaps unfair) criticism it will be stronger for the experience . But I don't see that happening. Rather than address real issues like decentralization theater, we get empty marketing fluff about DashNation community coordination. All the SEO gaming and #TagFarming in the world won't help Dash get to 100% in StackExchange. It's been stuck at 10% for months. Sad there are no real developers in this sleazy community, only degenerate greedy gambler casino types. In this post-DAO-hack world, Dash's weak fungiblity, lax security, and inattention to detail aren't going to cut it. SFYL. |
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Segwit solves the "2+ minute troll block validation" problem by enabling Schnorr (and resultant tree) signatures.
*takes off pedant hat*
Good. Now there's room for a different hat on your head. SegWit doesn't solve the "2+ minute troll block validation" problem through Schnorr sigs either. Some future feature that is post- SegWit may. Or may not. ^  Pedant, my ass. SegWit is necessary, but not sufficient, for the log scaling validation time sigops enabled by Schnorr. May we agree I look really good in this pedant hat? |
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Gavin used limitations to resolve the O(n^2) validation time problem. Namely limiting maximum signature operations to 1.2 GB per block. As a benefit it would not be possible to O(n^2) attack even current 1 MB blocksize anymore with up to 10 minutes CPU validation in some cases - even segwit dont solve this possible O(n^2) attack on 1 MB blocksize. So the breaking of Bitcoin due to O(n^2) is not censorship, but FUD because your avare of this Gavin solution to my knowledge.
Gavin's sigop limitations didn't " resolve the O(n^2) validation time problem" they merely avoid it via a particularly ugly, non-future-proof kludge. Segwit solves the "2+ minute troll block validation" problem by enabling Schnorr (and resultant tree) signatures. *takes off pedant hat* |
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Hope in one hand, shit in the other. See which one fills up first. Enjoy your hopeless situation, HopeFat! |
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d10e hype   The ironic thing is that centralized decisions have been common from the author of that quote since the beginning. Centralized decision making helped create the instamine. Centralised decision making (combined with heavy moderation) help retain control (via increasing taxes on miners by the masternodes largely owned by the instaminers) It's time to discuss Dash's fake, in-name-only decentralization. Dash, like ETH and DAO, suffers from the harmful property of "Decentralization Theater." Why does it matter? See here: http://urbit.org/blog/dao/In Dijkstra's terms: decentralization theater considered harmful. Decentralization theater means any system that produces not decentralization, but the appearance of decentralization. Security theater is the enemy of real security; decentralization theater is the enemy of real decentralization. "Decentralization Theater" is an important concept, and a subset of what fluffy referred to as Dash's "security theater." Years ago, vertoe warned you DashHoles that the project is 100% centralized. Now we have TheDashGuy ("Well-known member" of Dashtalk.org) confirming the Decentralization Theater:
What the hell is wrong with this picture? i thought we were a decentralized project?
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-this-picture-i-thought-we-were-a-decentralized-project.9229/
Starting to look like an old fashion centralized company around here. I guess theres only 3 peoples opinions who matter.
I don't exactly support Taos proposal as is but do you see me over here hounding him about spamming or anything just because I wish he would focus on something else? Or treating him like an annoying child like you guys always do?
No.
So get off your high horses. just because you bought so many nodes early on Daniel doesn't give you any sort of ownership over this goddamn project.
It's either decentralized or it isn't. Stop mincing words and meanings. Stick to your shit and stop going back and forth. You guys are really starting to worry me with this whole attitude honestly. Sort of wish I would have done more research about the team before committing so much of my time to this shit.
Grow the hell up and learn some people skills, you guys are really starting to show your true colors it seems. Dictating the way things are going to go and literally making people look bad who disagree with you and or starting some shit about people being trolls.
Not really sure why I'm here honestly, I believed in a decentralized economy that would be more fair to the average Joe, thats obviously not Dash. You guys just wanna stack more MN's while thier cheap, then control the voting all the way through! Smart move!
Such bullshit. Go ahead keep wasting the budget on getting richer and when the whole goddamn project collapses we'll know who to blame.
Get your shit together. Daniel. Kot. EVERYONE.
You'd think this was a fucking gamestop run by teenagers or something the way certain people act and throw around their so called importance to the project. |
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Its kept low because these days the marketcap of a coin is inversely proportional to the worthiness X time alive X real chance of obliterating Bitcoin.
Well said. Literally the worse something is, the more it goes up. Have you seen hyperstake today? 750% yearly inflation, lol! Therefore it pumps like crazy. I've started shoving small amounts of money into the absolute WORST coins I can find on poloniex. Since then they're all up, and Monero is down. Every time one rockets up I sell it and buy more monero, but then I wonder why I am doing that, because Monero only goes down, while these shitcoins easily get pumped hundreds of percent. Good work. Keep stealing ch33p XMR from the market and hloding them in your strong hands. Using shitcoin pumps to help is some great jujutsu. Emission is inexorably declining, while features and public awareness can only get better from here.  |
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Several months back vcash`s john connor was bragging he found some weaknesses in xmr. Was he finally able to produce the proofs?
John Conman will demonstrate the claimed weaknesses, just as soon as he finishes proving he didn't get caught stealing/obfuscating code from Bitcoin. Any minute now.... [skeleton_keyboard.gif] |
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I suspect when I made that video my BAC was about to break 0.43. I'm surprised I was able to even speak straight into the camera. Pay no mind to the ramblings of a drunk mad man. you gained lots of respect from my side for that halloween show and i hope we will see another one one day. shit will go into a whole other fucking dimension INB4 FFS Pegasus booze fund! |
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Are these BTC being held in reserve, or limbo, or just forgotten? |
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