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2281  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 03, 2020, 02:17:49 PM
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The dude who is borderline yelling for hours at a time. He has an angle, same as anyone, and he has already decided that this is a nothingburger. As for the experts, I can line up some other experts who say something else. It doesn't matter how many of them there are, science is not a democracy.

Go for it.  I've seen very few experts who want to put their name to an augment that the global lockdown response with their economic strains is appropriate for what we've seen so far from this particular coronavirus.  At least not recently.  Those who do seem to be using numbers which have some fairly severe credibility issues.

Then there are non-experts such as Bill Gates who have certain pet projects like ID2020 which are well served by hysterical panic over this thing.

2282  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 03, 2020, 01:50:13 PM
Again, the real problem is what happens if it comes back like the flu, and the next round is worse. The dude is not even considering that. Also, appeals to authority remain a fallacy.

Which dude?  There were like a dozen doctors and scientists who commented on how crazy the response to what is, but numbers and science, a routing coronavirus which goes around every year or two.

You don't seem to understand the 'appeal to authority' game.  If you just say something is true because some authority figure says so, that's 'appeal to authority'.  If you listen to what an authority figure is saying, analyze the points the authority is making, and ask other people to do the same, that's just good old fashioned analysis.

Anyway, the 'what if it comes back?' argument could be make whether there ever a SARS-cov-2 or not.  If something comes around, deal with it as needed.  Sure, it would be good to be prepared, but collapsing the world's economies and plunging everyone (except China) into a depression certainly isn't going to help make that happen.

For my part, I'm screaming from the rooftops about 'the next time.'  If there actually is something to this particular coronavirus it needs to be gotten to the bottom of ASAP because there are bio-warfare labs all over the world working on such things.  If such weapons can be used as 'politically useful tools', it's a pretty sure bet that they will be eventually.  It's only a matter of time.  If 'we, the peeps' tolerate such things and 'trust the governments' who are in fact operating these labs, disaster is pretty much inevitable.

2283  Other / Meta / Re: [April Fools] This better not be what I think it is... on: April 03, 2020, 11:46:54 AM
I fully support every conspiratard's right to make stupid jokes and to laugh at them... you can't make me laugh at it too though, and/or make me say that it's funny. It just isn't.

I didn't find this joke funny either as I have friends whose family members contacted/died from this disease.

Apparently most people on this thread find humor in replicating a disease infection online, with decorated text. While that text was also annoying I don't think that's what pissed off some people, it was that they were joking about virus. And when you're a part of the situation then things like this really punch you hard in the stomach.

These people are getting a little twitchy so-to-speak.  It's understandable how they could lash out at a harmless and instructive April fools day prank and get ultra-paranoid and weird about it.

This was not an instructive april fools prank. If you read theymos' thread about this it was just a few probabilities that's all. Please step in the victims' shoes first before accusing them of being "ultra-paranoid and weird about it".

Firstly, you are probably a fuckin liar with all your friends family who died, or your friends are jackin you.  55,000/7,500,000,000 = 0.000007 as a ratio of humans who've died to date.  

Secondly, three of my four grandparents died of cancer and the fourth lost a leg to it.  My mom is fighting it right now.  I'm not whining and crying because someone makes a joke about cancer, and certainly not because I perceive it.  As a matter of fact I am very thankful to anyone who puts effort into trying to figure out what is going on with it and bring attention to the problem because I don't trust the medical/industrial complex to do anything but make it worse cancer being an incredible cash-cow for them.

You are being a drama queen bitch and everyone can see it.  You should crawl back into your safe-hole and only venture out only into the cushy safe world that the tech giants are creating for all you millennial snowflakes.

2284  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus: International Updates on: April 03, 2020, 09:55:26 AM
Most of the affected countries chose lockdown or Curfew to fight Corona Virus. We know it's needed but we can see, the infection is growing up day by day. To ensure the lockdown many countries take much hard decision as a Filipino said, they will shoot if anyone breaks the lockdown.
There is going very very bad time in every country. Please stay home and pray to overcome this situation.

I have not studied Duterte's statements and the problems in Manila in detail, but my first-cut take on what he was saying was close to this:

 - There are problems with food supplies being taken by criminals gangs and sold.  Deliveries won't be made under such conditions.

 - Anyone trying to take advantage of the lockdown situations to instigate a violent response will be dealt with, and the police and military have authorization to shoot people who are both engaged in violent behavior and inducing others to do the same.

I'm not going to go out on a limb here in support of Duterte because, again, I've not studied the situation sufficiently (and also I am a guest in the country and not at liberty to be politically active.)  From what little I can tell it seems like classic Duterte, and I've not heard an change in people's opinions of the man due to this latest development.

I will say that 'the palace' has been given/ has taken extra powers to deal with the situation as have many governments who have put their citizens in lockdown.  'The palace' has given assurances that they will not abuse these extra authorities.  Time will tell I guess.

2285  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health Professionals and COVID-19 - PROOF on: April 03, 2020, 09:03:23 AM
I've never said a thing about Vitamin C for the simple reason that I've not studied it and thus know nothing about it.
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you (under the name tvbcof) have been going down the path that its all a hoax and no one is sick in hospital. which is just as stupid. so yea i tarnished you both with the same stupid brush.
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That's clearly your problem.  Not mine.  If you cannot keep things straight then maybe you shouldn't blather so much about them.  Just a suggestion.

2286  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health Professionals and COVID-19 - PROOF on: April 03, 2020, 08:39:33 AM

I've never said a thing about Vitamin C for the simple reason that I've not studied it and thus know nothing about it.

2287  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus: International Updates on: April 03, 2020, 08:35:03 AM
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- USA unemployment figures rise to 6.6m
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What people don't appreciate is that the U.S. leadership and power structure are now almost 100% Zionists or under Zionist control through operations such as the Epstein affair.  A fundamental element of Zionism is that Israel should be populated by so-called 'Jewish people' and that that 'Nation of Priests' should 'be a light unto the nations' from that locale.

This means that the leadership structure of the United States is fundamentally determined to crater the U.S. itself.  Of course we will be milked dry first which means, among other things, go to war with all of Israel's regional enemies.

The 'infection' which vexes the United States came in over 100 years ago in one Jacob Schiff who, rather quickly after arriving in the U.S., set of a Rothschild central bank deceptively called the 'federal reserve'.  Since then we American bullet-stoppers have been used to fight WW-I which freed up 'the promised land' for Khazarian colonization, WW-II which allowed for the creation of Israel, and now WW-III which buries the soon-to-be corpse of what the U.S. once was and creates a vacuum at the top of the pile to be filled.

Note that China is already back on-line after the 'covid-19' hoax while the U.S.'s economic problems are just starting.  Note also that the money has been moved to China already over the last three decades.  The parasite has pretty much already switched hosts.

I cannot help but be in awe of how the Trump chess-piece was played.  He got what he wanted (economic collapse of the U.S., police state powers) and still came out of this thing with some bragging rights about calling out the covid-19 hoax and thus having 'good judgement.'  This will serve him well for the next move with the mouth-breathing Trump-tards who will follow him into the Iran war with increased fervor.  Of course the fake 'left' will make token 'resistance', but they are completely self-neutered by this time so it will only serve to help get the peeps swallow the purple kool-aid.

2288  Other / Meta / Re: [April Fools] This better not be what I think it is... on: April 03, 2020, 07:03:27 AM

A guys' gotta wonder how Thermos 'the conspiritard' feels about some gang of propagandists organizing a merit point circle-jerk to leverage his work and ideas.

My guess would be that he finds it an interesting technical challenge as he develops some workable means of developing a useful platform in a world of dedicated, and often enough state funded, 'social media hackers'.



2289  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 03, 2020, 06:37:32 AM

The next move of the covid-19 hoaxers is obviously going to be:

 'The lockdowns worked!  We would have had the 500,000 deaths that our UK models predicted instead of the 10k from CV if we didn't to the lockdowns.'

It is important to note that not every country did the lockdowns.  If the propaganda which we all know is coming were true then we should have seen the stupendious casualty figures promised by the mainstream media and corrupt government scientists who did all the fearmongering.

Here's a map from a story of 3/26:  I do expect immense political pressure for a lot of countries to at least pretend to do lockdowns so they can perpetrate the next play in the fraud.





On the modeling, here's seems to be how the hoax was pulled off:

 - Some govt scientist guy named Neil Ferguson in the UK put out results from his models showing 500,000 dead.

 - UK govt were pressured into going full lockdown instead of the 'use the healthy to obtain natural herd immunity' strategy.

 - Other scientists challenged  Ferguson to show the hidden source code for his modeling.

 - Ferguson said that it's old and has no comments so he won't release it.

 - Other scientists cried foul.

 - Ferguson says that Microsoft is helping to re-write it so 'no'.  And 'Oh, by the way, the 500,000 dead has been revised down to 20,000 dead half who would have died anyway.'

These fraudsters and their 'computer models'.  When will people wake up?

2290  Other / Meta / Re: [April Fools] This better not be what I think it is... on: April 03, 2020, 05:48:47 AM
Please understand and have some empathy for the poor souls who are under a lot of strain because their 'covid-19' hoax is falling apart at the seams.

These people are getting a little twitchy so-to-speak.  It's understandable how they could lash out at a harmless and instructive April fools day prank and get ultra-paranoid and weird about it.

Edit:  DATA OR DECEIT? : THE COVID-19 PEAK

2291  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 03, 2020, 05:42:35 AM

The methods by which this fraud was and is being perpetrated are being uncovered.  Outlier countries with high mortalities are just calling as many deaths as they can 'covid-19'.  Italy and the U.S. match one another because they pull the same trick.

Here's a description of the new ICD code, the memo saying to pump up the 'covid-19' number and 'do not worry; we won't be checking.'

  https://youtu.be/KCnpPjUvdLM?t=5205

2292  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus tests include the common cold. Typically 20% positive. on: April 02, 2020, 06:42:42 PM
Remember this when they test you.



Thanks, Elwar. Looks kinda uncomfortable. I think I won't go in for any CV testing.


Good choice!  These Dr. Mengele types are so desperate for more victims of their little plandemic and get you hooked on Big Pharma product that this is probably how they make sure they infect you.

2293  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 02, 2020, 06:37:59 PM

The highly esteemed doctors and scientists that are increasingly vocal calling bull on the pandemic....I'm just asking if you know their names.  I'm honestly not interested in what any media outlet has to say about the situation.  I look for the the most reputable scientists and doctors that have dedicated at least a few decades to infectious diseases and listen to them.


They are all lined out in the presentation with their qualifications and their quotes.  All in a nice neat (of long) string of entries.  A 'blockchain' if you will.  I'm not going to transcribe the data or screen-cap it.  No need.  Anyone who wants to see the doctors who head up medical organizations, have described 90 new bacteria, etc, etc is welcome to take a few minutes and watch.

Again:  https://youtu.be/E_gMT4_PDJI?t=3452

It's actually fun to watch the mainstream media jackasses bloviating and boo-hooing at a somewhat earlier cut as well.  Enjoy!

  https://youtu.be/E_gMT4_PDJI?t=3106

2294  Other / Politics & Society / Re: WHO declared corona outbreak as Pandemic! on: April 02, 2020, 06:00:22 PM

99% have not even got it to even become a statistic

your taking things out of context..
just like. if you went to a town. where everyone was banned from driving for a month.. you would say that there will never be any more car accidents.
not realising that when people get back into their vehicles.. accidents will occur.

put it into some prospective.
based on limited numbers so far due to self isolation
7billion people.. 1% symptomatic = 70million.. death rate =~4m world wide ONCE IT HAS MASS SPREAD

the problem is not that its a 50% chance of death from just licking a door knob
its that hospitals cannot cope with 70mill people with symptoms trying to get better all at same time
and those more critical wont even get air so the death numbers would be higher than 4m deaths

thats why they want to delay the spread now. and then increase hospital ability to cope. so that they can try keeping it around the 4m count. and hope to get less deaths.

you foolishly think that march 25th is the end of the whole pandemic just shows how little you know.
seems you want to remain ignorant

To bad citizen journalists are watching how many people enter the hospitals and are not seeing almost anyone come and go.  Even at ones which, only the day before, the fake news mainstream media had been pumping as the 'epicenter' of this supposed mass epidemic that you've been promising us for weeks now.

Maybe the deadly ill patients are being beamed in to the ICU by star trek technology?  Or maybe they are using Illuminati tunnels under New York?  What does seem clear is that they are not arriving in ambulances, walk in, or by car all that much.

Recent one with some funny stuff:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqlBxjLxUs4

To say the truth, I do expect the '2nd wave' you have been promising us as just around the corner.  Hopefully it will be another harmless hoax like covid-19, but it could well be one of the thousands of truly devastating biological weapons that the corp/gov military industrial complex are spending billions of dollars cooking up.

2295  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 02, 2020, 05:32:20 PM
Many of the highly esteemed doctors and scientists who are increasingly vocally calling bull on this plandemic are as well.

What are their names?

Again:  https://youtu.be/E_gMT4_PDJI?t=3452

I'm not watching some anti vax youtube channel.
What are the names of the highly esteemed doctors and scientists that are vocally calling bull on the pandemic?

Suit yourself.  I gave you a cut right to the information you asked for (and obviously don't wish to acknowledge.)  It is a straight list of highly qualified medical doctors and scientists and their comments.  It has nothing to do with vaccines.

As usual, I'm not actually talking to you.  I think it very possible that you have a pretty good idea what's going on both with covid-19 and with vaccines, and a pretty good understanding of how these things will soon be related.  I hope that some others will realize that there is growing disent about this charade from real doctors.  They won't get that from CNN, Fox, NPR, NYT, etc, etc.

2296  Other / Politics & Society / Re: WHO declared corona outbreak as Pandemic! on: April 02, 2020, 05:08:07 PM
2297  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 02, 2020, 04:57:20 PM
Many of the highly esteemed doctors and scientists who are increasingly vocally calling bull on this plandemic are as well.

What are their names?

Again:  https://youtu.be/E_gMT4_PDJI?t=3452

2298  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 02, 2020, 04:37:42 PM

- Scientists all over the world are in on or aware of 'the hoax' and are intentionally misleading the world.
- There's a very simple yet critical step that scientists around the world have overlooked.  tvbcof caught it, but none of the scientists working on it did.
- tvbcof is wrong, not the scientists.

Am I missing any scenarios?

Mortality is a pretty simple equation:  dead/infected=mortality.  At least if they actually died predominantly from (not 'with') the virus.

'Infected' is completely mysterious because nobody will burn a few test kits and will only test the sickest of the sick (and celebrities)?!?  That doesn't pass the smell test.  I'm hardly the only person who is pointing this out.  Many of the highly esteemed doctors and scientists who are increasingly vocally calling bull on this plandemic are as well.

2299  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus tests include the common cold. Typically 20% positive. on: April 02, 2020, 02:59:53 PM
I'm not saying that there isn't a COVID-19 test, but I would not be surprised if they many places are just testing for coronavirus.

The media has even stopped referring to it as COVID-19 and are using the term "coronavirus disease". Is this just to cover their ass?

no its just called using a common word. an easy buzzword.
its like saying 'bike'
without being specific if its a BMX or a Yamaha.

Gee, just last week anyone who DIDN'T use the full correct word 'covid-19' in just the right manner was to be totally ignored.  What a difference a day makes...in propaganda-land.

The other label for the viron itself was 'ncov-19' or some such.  That sounded to much like the word used in 'exersise 201'.  You know, the Bill Gates funded 'simulation' about a theoretical coronavirus that happened six weeks before the 'first outbreak' in China (and subsequent to Ft. Detrich weapons labs in Maryland being shut down for releases and a spate of mysterious 'pneumonia clusters'.)  The reason it sounded so similar was that it was the exact word they used for the 'fictional' coronavirus.  So, it was changed to 'SARS-cov-2'.

But of course "Nothing to see here folks; move along."

2300  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 02, 2020, 02:50:11 PM
I'm saying that I would like to see some numbers (in a peer reviewed (or not) paper with reproducible results) which showed the background infection rate for various populations around the world.  It's not that difficult.  Mostly just obtaining a random sample, and techniques for doing so to a reasonably statistically valid criteria are well known.

If you have pointers to such research, let me know.
Sure, I'll send you a link in 2 or 3 years after the research is finished, reviewed and published.

Wait...was that a trick question?  You would just say the scientists did their research wrong and try to make it seem like you are the expert, not them....wouldn't you?

Propose a sampling protocol, run some tests, publish the results.  Should take all of two days.  This isn't rocket science.

And again, it's critical to discover if there is even a problem much less how big a problem there is.  That this very simple and critical data remains AWOL speaks volumes about the nature of this 'pandemic.'

Arguments about sample selection and the like can be performed at any time.  They won't amount to more than a few percent difference anyway unless the sample selection is grossly negligent.

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