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2301  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Practice trading on: September 28, 2017, 06:42:10 PM
Hello im newbie and i dont have any experience as a trader.Can you discuss some solutions for my problem?

First you need to read topics here in the forum that discussess about trading. You can reasearch as well in the internet on how to do trading. So if you had read and understand the cycle of trading better yet start do the trading. It is best if you could start on a little amount and try to trade best on your knowledge and practice it because experience would teach you what to do at first and you will learn how to deal with trading and its risk. You really have to try personally for you to be able experience the actual trading i can say its a trial and error but it would be worth it in the end.
Let's trade, you do not need to have much knowledge, it not useful if you can not apply it into reality and make money from it. Improve your trading skills with small funds, then try increase your funds and trade again till you think is enough.
But you will still need some little knowledge, won't you ? That little learning is all it takes. It helps inform you of your decisions and few steps to take before trading. It is not hard to learn, it is not hard to find out, but some people are just a little bit lazy to do that which makes them fumble. With little of that, small funds for  a start and practice, it is always a good way to start.
2302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: September 28, 2017, 05:29:38 PM
when I gambled and was very lucky that day and I won a lot of money but I'm not satisfied i'm very happy and I still continue to gamble because I was still going to be the great luck that day and I'm going to be a big winner, until the bad luck comes and lost all my winnings and the worst is defeated with all my money and investment After the game I repented.
Yeah this could probably be considered as your worst mistake in gambling .Basically, if a person wins one or more time on a continuous basis then he thinks that it might be possible to play with his profits to earn more and more to fulfill his eternal desires.
But he forgets that where there is a good luck, then hardship also comes along. Therefore, it’s better to take precautions before you opt for this.
2303  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: September 28, 2017, 04:25:06 PM
Religion is nothing but a bunch of principles and faith. You may claim that you have no religion but you cannot say that you do not have some principles or rules in your life. All those rules that keep us safe make our religions and we follow them. That's all. Some people may not play gambling because they think it is harmful and it is while some religions prohibit it and safe the person beforehand, without trying.


Im sure atleast everyone has religion. Even when they claim that they are atheist, they know that it is wrong to gamble but we still gamble right ? we dont follow the rules and we keep gambling, when we are addicted then it is going to be hard for us to get out of it. We keep on not wanting to quit until we realize that it is too late to quit
Everyone knows that despite of difference in religions, it is a common thought among all of us that gambling is not good at all. It could not be classified as a virtue but is more a sin. Gamblers being aware of this fact do not give up on it just because they are addicted to it. This is not easy to eradicate form your daily routines and need a lot of time and thinking to quit.
2304  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who can destroy Bitcoin ? on: September 28, 2017, 03:33:51 PM
Bitcoin is growing very powerfully but in this present scenario which factors can destroy or make its market value Zero.

Well Media can hurt the price of bitcoin and even popular person who throw bad comments about bitcoin, but literally bitcoin will never become zero again in terms of value, because i know a lot of people are believing on bitcoin and no one can dictate them what to do. They can drag down the price of bitcoin but they can't destroy bitcoin, never.
Truly, they can depict the price of bitcoins but they can't actually destroy bitcoins because bitcoin is not a small concept now but instead it is a widely been used global cryptocurrency and also it has been seen many such difficulties in the past but still grew up to give us the best and it is a good thing about bitcoin.

Some major sources of news can really affect the price for bitcoin if some fake news are been published. Similar drop we saw recently from the news about china banning bitcoin exchanges but yes, bitcoin is back on its way and it proves that bitcoin is unstoppable now.
2305  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Earning enough with Bitcoin without Job ? on: September 28, 2017, 02:21:14 PM
For me its better to earn bitcoin and at the same time you earn salary from your regular job. I have regular job and spending my time 8am-5pm inside the office and I have more time for bitcoin.
But in some countries the people are paid very less on 9 to 5 jobs and they have a better chance of earning more money in a  part time job than their 9 to 5 job, like here on the forum there are many Indonesians and Indians who work here full time just because their job is just paying them enough to survive, so how would they fulfill their dreams so they start earning from here. And i have also talked to a few people and they said that they have quit their day job just because they have enough assets in cryptocurrency and now they are pro bitcoiners in trading and gambling also.
Earning by the means of bitcoins is far better than sitting on a chair and doing the office jobs for hours and hours without any break just to earn an amount which could not satisfy the appetite of a family as a whole. The best way to accommodate your day to day needs is to enter into the world of bitcoins or joining signature campaigns so as to have some ideas about its usage.
2306  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens if BTC gets regulated? on: September 28, 2017, 08:28:48 AM
If bitcoin becomes regulated by the government that would mean higher fees due to taxes. And some people will take it negatively due to the high price of bitcoin the tax will surely eat a large part of it which would mean a lot less profit from your investment.
I am not sure exactly whether this thing will ever happen or not, but let us suppose that this thing will happen then I must say there will a lot of difficulties as well. The most basic problem which we will be facing will be the payment of tax and all that stuff which will result in depreciation of our money.

I am thinking the same that bitcoin would never be regulated, because government would surely want a system that they can control or monitor Well maybe because their purpose on not regulating bitcoin so they can surely prevent people from using it the wrong way or criminals to be using it in their country, and they are really preventing that to happen.
It is a bit difficult but not impossible yet because the price of the bitcoin is increasing and the chance for the profit is high so if the government will make the bitcoin regular and they will earn from bitcoin so it will be good for the economical life of the bitcoin. The strategy of the bitcoin currency is not yet impossible so if the government of any country will accept bitcoin it will increase the trust of the people in bitcoin.
I am not agree with you that it is difficult but not possible, I think it is impossible completely to get control on bitcoin and regulate it by a government because bitcoin is decentralized and uncontrollable cryptocurrency.

In a way government can earn from bitcoin if government announce bitcoin a legal currency in his country and collect taxes from blockchain because bitcoin is not in access of someone. But if happens to regulate then people will left bitcoin.   
2307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: September 27, 2017, 05:35:06 PM
you will only cry when you rely on gambling as a way to earn money. gambling is not the right choice especially when you are in need of money in a fast time. it will only make you more disappointed and depressed because of losing money. gambling game risk is very high, if you have to choose then better do not do it. gambling is just a way to make fun. a pleasure that I think can be enjoyed when we have no pressure. and pressure will not exist when we consider gambling as an entertainment only.
If anyone really wants to end up with quite a big amount in his pocket then investment is the best way to go for. Gambling is not a way at all to earn money because if you are not lucky enough to win the game then there is no use for getting into gamble. Moreover, it is quite a risky game and in contrast to this, investment is a more reliable way.

Treating gambling as a type of investment is just a inappropriate perception. Gambling never falls into the category of investments, even it will fall, due to its risk levels, we must avoid treating as an investment opportunity.
2308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: September 27, 2017, 04:09:17 PM
My mistake in gambling is repeated everytime gamble only one that's, greedy. When i have made a profit, i always feel less. So want a bigger win.

I can relate to this one. Once I won, I feel that I wanted to have more because I did win anyway so there is a possibility I would win again and again not noticing that my funds is getting lower and lower. Once I have this greediness, it feels that I don't want to stop even if I am already in losing streaks because just one win and I can get back all my losses but it did not come. I did not win and lose my funds and that is my worst mistake in gambling. Cannot control my self and become greedy at times.
You must not get disappointed now. This is a fact that you can’t change the past but it is in your hands to improve the conditions for future. If someone wins on a repeated basis, he becomes over confident and thinks about using his profits for the sake of gambling. This is the point where everything turns against him and he is left with nothing in his hands despite the embarrassments.
2309  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin have a future? on: September 27, 2017, 03:38:31 PM
Do you think Bitcoin is going to go away tomorrow? I don't think so... of course BTC has a future. Cheesy
Bitcoin has a future cause that is what everyone wants. However, no one can predict the future as much as we want it to dance to our tunes sometimes.

There are so many factors we really need to consider with bitcoin in play and government is most definitely one of them. The light moreover will keep appearing gradually and the future will get more bright once we start noticing more adoptions from different countries and governments.
2310  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Who lives trading cripto? on: September 27, 2017, 02:55:59 PM
Living by trading crypto is not a smart choice, the smart choice is keep working in the real life, and earning profit from cryptos is just a passive income better than you living belong to trading ( a way that's very risk too). Gambling and trading are the way to make us rich or poor, not for living.
I believe this totally depends on each individual. Trading is a bit of work itself and can take most of your time if you are daytrading. However, it can be very profitable if you are skillful. Gambling and trading should never be compared to each other and that is where most people get it all wrong and just opt into trading, gambling their way in and out thinking that is all it takes to trade.

You need skills, you need resources to make good decisions. You can never do that in gambling cause you have no resources to help your decision making and the system can be easily manipulated.
2311  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Most accurate USDBTC price on: September 27, 2017, 01:55:41 PM
Which site has the most accurate USDBTC pricing? I need for Bitmex margin trading, thanks in advance.
Just stick to the rate on the platform you are trading on. You cannot get a direct answer to that question you asked. The most important thing is that you make the best use of the platform you are on. Moreover, if you are going to be doing your trading anyway, it isn't like the platform is going to use another platform's exchange rate but its own. It is left for you to find the best platform that works for your own style of trading.
2312  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: is mining and TRADING THE SAME on: September 27, 2017, 01:14:55 PM
Mining is a way using our computer  or any gadgets  to earn online
While trading is a way which you can buy and sell a pruduct
Really? Do you even have an idea of the kind of trading the OP was referring to? Moreover, it seems you have no idea of what you are even saying with the 2 things you are talking about on this forum. If we can all mine with just our systems, do you think we won't all be happily smiling today? Also, trading cryptocurrencies is what OP referred to which you obviously need your system or a good smartphone to achieve that, and it is not the regular buying of tomatoes and pepper.
2313  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the factors that affect the rise and fall of the BTC? on: September 26, 2017, 01:25:42 PM
The main factor that can affect the rise and fall of Bitcoin is the supply and demand. If the supply is low and the demand is high, there might be an increase in price and vice versa. The other factor is the news. Just like with the recent incident about the owner of JP Morgan. He spreaded fake news and the price suddenly collapsed. Good news will lead to price increase while bad news will make the price decrease.
Yes, supply and demand is the moto behind the price change. And also the use of bitcoins will lead to change in price. The more people purchase bitcoins the more price will go up and the more people will sell bitcoins, the more the price will fall rapidly. Even recently we saw the similar price pump after the hard fork of August1. And even we recently saw a price drop after the news that china is banning bitcoin exchanges.

Bitcoin has a unstable price and such news affects a lot. The more people panic about bitcoin, The more price for bitcoin goes down. Perhaps it might be the best time to purchase bitcoins when people panic.
2314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: September 26, 2017, 10:17:42 AM
I tend to play until i'm satisfied so usually i keep playing even using my profit. It's high risk but i'm willing to take it for higher gain.
Well just accept the possibilities that will happen if you lose all of your winnings after you play again and take high risk, because there is no assurance in gambling and we can't tell if you can gain profit if you take high risk.

Well as long as you're decided and is willing to accept the consequences without regret, then its ok whether you play with your profit or not. If you really enjoy gambling that much, then you won't mind which are you playing with
No one is willing to take the consequences and risk that easy. We can say that words but in reality when you are in the situation, you will not know on what will be the feeling of losing everything you've got.
It is also depend on a consequence. I just play with small bets which is not a big deal if I lose it all. And I am not taking high risk. If I win and I will bet my winnings, I will nit bet all of it. I will just bet some of it so that I will not lose all my winnings.
Yes the consequences matters. You are not going to make all of your winnings in next game. Even if you are a businessman then you will never be putting your all profits in next investment.
It is quite wise decision for a person to use minimum of winnings, reason is, that is for you and your family, enjoy and make them enjoy, don’t be greedy.
2315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: September 26, 2017, 09:27:44 AM
It all depends on how lucky a person is, but do not expect a permanent profit from gambling as they are entertainment and carry more losses than profits.

Well it doesnt depend all on how lucky a person is. It is how disciplined he is or his knowing on his limits in gambling. Win a little, stop, try again next time.
Lucky is not at all, you have to stay strong too. When you see China is making a ridiculous law about banned Bitcoin but still let Chinese traders can trade bitcoin at Hong Kong , i already knew something happen . Whales are trying to swallow all of us who doesn't have balls.
Yes. There is no luck alone that leads you train to station. There must be some skills, workouts, intelligence and many other things that couples to make a strong base of success. As you said about China, exactly if you all leave on your luck then Chinese wouldn’t be able to work on bitcoins and their government writes a rebellion against bitcoin in their luck.
2316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 26, 2017, 08:19:13 AM
Sorry for saying this but gambling help nothing with my life because I'm not into gambling so it doesn't affect me. Maybe it helps a lot to those who are lucky in gambling. Who wins in their every bet. I wish I am lucky too but not so I stopped.
I think gambling needs skills to, you think some guys can win in a big profit without researching , figuring out about what happen, the odds , the team, head to head history? No , no at all. You need to find out all those informations then make a right amount on bet. How sure are you for that bet? So it actually help you.
That makes sense actually. I will point out only the researching element now. There is nothing in word that just comes to an end without proper research and field work. So same is the case with gambling and betting, much hard work is behind every time. Still I am not on the side of those who bet and gamble, because it just kills you financially, mentally and socially.
2317  Economy / Economics / Re: Being a Smart Person or Strategic on: September 26, 2017, 07:19:05 AM
Even though you are not a genius, you can use strategies to harness your creative thinking and manage your future for the better.
I think strategies can be making for about all the aspects of life. For example, job, business, marriage, children and the rest of the future. If someone can do this then I think how will be the most happiest man of this world. Because he can manage all his problems at the right time and that is mean a successful man. But being a smart person you can make best strategies for your life. So both are essential.
2318  Economy / Economics / Re: dropping value on: September 26, 2017, 06:46:09 AM
I believe that the continuous decline in bitcoin price is due to China's shutting down orders of bitcoin exchanges. Many people in the country would have probably sold their bitcoin in panic, added to the fact that many bitcoin mines were in China.

See it an opportunity for you to buy bitcoin since the price is low, you would have a greater return once the bitcoin price recovers.

Yes, the bad news about China has significantly affected the sale of coins and lowered the price of bitcoin, but over time everything is stabilized. I am sure that by the end of the year we will be able to profit from our coins.
Indeed! China has badly affected the crypto market along with lowering the values of bitcoins. No one is going to give up on their coins if they really want a decent profit with bitcoins. Bitcoins are going to pump damn high in the end of year and it is the best time to buy more and more bitcoins.
Why do you want to buy Bitcoin when it pump to high price in the end of this year? If you are sure your prediction will happen, you do not need to wait till the price of Bitcoin increases, really do you want to ignore your chance?
It is really ridiculous to buy bitcoins when they are in the pumping stage. That is the best time of selling off or cashing out bitcoins for enjoying the fruit of your hard work, only a fool can buy bitcoins in the pumping phase.

If you really want big profits, buy bitcoins at the moment because they are not at 4k dollars yet. It is utterly true that bitcoins are going to be at 5k dollars by the end of this year.
2319  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin - time to buy or sell? on: September 23, 2017, 07:14:00 PM
I really want to buy now but i have to wait until next week to finalize my decision. For now, i will  just hold and wait what will happen in the next few days if bitcoin will continue to go down or eventually it will pump again at least @$4,000.
The best thing for now is to just chill and monitor the market. For those who have been able to buy at dips, it is best to just relax and see what happens next. At this stage when activities are not that much, it is because every one is trying to be careful so as not to end up making the wrong decision. In the situation where we see bitcoin bullying up or bearing down, then you will start seeing activities and at that stage, it will be easy to make a decision but for now, the risk is high and any prediction now is a gamble.
2320  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Btc = you make me tired on: September 23, 2017, 06:18:20 PM
Altcoins have better ROI since they are cheaper anyways, just pick them wisely.
Are you for real ? Apart from some few ones, Altcoins will give him more heartache than he can imagine. However, with the ROI, it totally depends and picking an Altcoin in that perspective is more a gamble cause you cannot really say which one has much support and the few ones with huge support can only have long term prospects and doesn't mean bitcoin would have remained on thesame value by then. Bitcoin so far has still given the best ROI and less risky than just holding any other altcoin.
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