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1741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum TO $400 AGAIN on: March 06, 2018, 06:42:11 AM

They are just what you called them. RUMORS. all cryptos are susceptible to dips but cant go that deep. at least not at once. and considering the kind of investors backing ETH and its market cap, its almost an impossibility
For the fact that he only told us he heard something, without even giving a source could possibly mean he formed it himself, or he is trying to show us how worried he is about Ethereum and trying to get our opinions. The fact is, whether Ethereum will even get to as low as $400 or start gaining momentum to test the previous top and get into the era of more ATHs, no one can absolutely know.

If the chart tells us Ethereum wants to go down the more, then we will watch how far it goes, but giving an exact spot is not realistic and wherever he must have gotten such information from is obviously whacked.
1742  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you trust chart analysts? on: March 06, 2018, 06:18:38 AM
yes, many have proved that many analysis charts provide benefits. well, if they do have a lot of experience about it, of course it will likely work. maybe you should also try to do analysis from the chart.
Chart analysis or should I say Technical analysis are there for traders to take advantage of and not trusting in them, I wonder what any trader will want to trust in then. If any trader rules out technical analysis, then obviously they have no strategy and most of the time, they are just gambling. Trading requires charting and that is the only way anyone can ever make good trading decisions.

its a true point to argue as because if the currencies are virtual how could graph depend on this virtual base?
Anyone who is relying on only fundamental analysis to trade bitcoin will always end up in the FOMO category of investors. You should at least be able to combine the two. If the fundamentals and technical are showing positive, then you should be able to make a good decision, but as far as I am concerned, you cannot do without technical analysis before at least considering getting some affirmations in your decision.
1743  Economy / Speculation / Re: Trading is gambling after all on: March 06, 2018, 05:14:48 AM
Well, it arguably is related to gambling in some points. But it is not 100% gambling. It is a fact that gambling and trading is about tactics, luck, and predictions. However, trading requires taking much time to do research about the whole market.

Gambling is just about mastering the game and see your opponents reactions if you are playing poker for example. Added to that, trading is about patience and it takes so much time for you to gain a good profit.

A good insight about the topic since gambling and trading are both risky but I think its still different from on its own definition and will always depend on the perception of one person. Trading requires so many things to become more successful, but yeah it can also be consider as a gambling since people are quiet more greed in terms of profit taking so for me its depend on your belief.
It totally depends on the way we want to look at it though. Like someone already rightly said, gambling is all about luck and if that is all you are relying on to make a trade without a strategy and you feel you are buying low and waiting to see if luck will let it increase so that you sell, then you are definitely gambling.

However, compared to the real gambling where everything is based on luck, you can use strategies to make good decisions but like the OP said, the whales will always have the highest advantage since they are the ones controlling the market and the smart traders are just tagging along while the gamblers are just betting any position they feel like.
1744  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to $15k in March, $8.5k by June, then $30+k by Q1/2019? on: March 06, 2018, 03:30:48 AM
i can't believe there are actual people still reading this guys all-over-the-place thoughts!
if you think bitcoin is volatile and swings up and down you have to check this dude's posts, they swing more than bitcoin does. HE is volatile Cheesy

i remember in 2017 when he was spamming on bitcointalk, one day he said buy bitcoin it will go to the moon and the next day price dropped 5% so he deleted his previous posts and started posting about how you should sell your bitcoin because it is on a "downward spiral" and will drop a lot. then a couple days later when that obviously didn't happen and price went up instead he started his "clean up" again Cheesy


There are many such people. I call them a weather vane. Their thoughts depend on which way the wind blows. But such people should be. They teach us to make decisions based solely on our knowledge. People will understand that now the most expensive property is their knowledge. Digital society requires a good education.
One thing is that as long as there are people who feel they benefit from this guy, good for them, and I hope they would not end up getting burned relying on someone else's pattern of giving future predictions than having their own strategies and what to look out for in the market to make decisions. it is a free world and anyone can post anything.

Moreover, bitcoin is full of surprises, so I am always opened to them when they come but not by using someone else's opinion as my footstool. Still, everybody is entitled to their opinion in as much as we are all speculating.

I have not really fancied this guy's analysis for one anyway and I am not the kind of person who rely on predicting the future and I would rather just do my thing based on my chart and make decisions based on that. If bitcoin decides to tap down to $8500 by June, good and fine, we will have the chance to buy more, and if it does not, we will have a chance to keep making profit from what we are holding.
1745  Economy / Speculation / Re: Common misconceptions about day trading on: March 05, 2018, 05:01:07 PM
I have outperformed bitcoin by 10,000% by daytrading and these increases have been steady since 2013. Daytrading is not gambling. It is a simple system where you learn to buy high volume dips and crashes, and breakouts. I guess 'Daytrading is gambling' is like this nice catchy excuse for bad traders for them to blow off steam.
The only reason why I stopped day-trading and concentrate on short term was just because of the stress of having to strain my eye on the chart all day, but for those who understand how to do their thing and make use of the quick swings in the market to their advantage, they are not gambling, and they are getting the best from it. Obviously, most people do not, and day trading, short trading or whatever, they are still gambling anyway since they have no strategy.
1746  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do You Have Any Fear Bitcoin Might Crash Someday. on: March 05, 2018, 12:40:25 PM
Looking at the rapid growth the Croptocurrency world is experiencing right now, with new and promising Tokens (ONL, ATFS, BERRY etc) being introduced on regarly basis. I actually have a strong confidence that cryptocurrencies would get worldwide acceptance in the nearest future, and with Bitcoins topping the charts of all existing Bitcoins right now, Bitcoins stands to benefit from the newborn cryptos emerging. So if you ask me, I think it is quite impossible for Bitcoin to CRASH.

So whats really your position? Will it crash or not?
ETH is the one supporting those new crypto's because of its smart contract, some are just a copy paste of the blockchain technology.
Copy paste will die, the projects with usable products will have chance to show case themselves to be used which would end up to them being demanded in the long run and hence lead to their presence remaining in the market.

Nevertheless, bitcoin has smart contract too, and you can go read about the OMNI protocol. I got to know about this recently from this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2980361.msg30668604#msg30668604) and I was really amazed I have been ignorant all these while. Bitcoin is already established and based on the way a lot of people have pronounced it dead from the onset; it should have been dead by now.
1747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: possibilities for crypto on: March 05, 2018, 10:10:19 AM
What do.think will happen to crypto currency year form now? Will it be legalized? Will be banned by some? Will it be controlled by the government?
This year will be a difficult year for the ICO. It is still limited because more and more ICO scam projects appear. Governments in many countries are issuing bans on the ICO because it attracts too much capital and it negatively affects government projects.
Yes that’s true. Even in the meeting concluded by United States in matter of cryptocurrencies, they mainly focused on regulating the cryptocurrencies and preventing illegal activities from happening and to break down the ICO process.

The main point of discussion was to remove the ICO’s due to the scams and due to people losing their hard earned money due to fraud activities. I agree to the point that ICO’s should no longer take place and cryptos shall be regulated to make sure the development as well as security.
1748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Joining ICO or Participating Bounties and Airdrop?? on: March 05, 2018, 07:47:26 AM
I would prioritize finding a good bounty campaign and making sure you follow the instructions so you get a nice payout. Then on the side, you can sign up for the airdrops. But I don't think the airdrops give so much. Only a few tokens, that in the end might not be worth a whole lot.

Spending your own money on ICO is a different game. Depends on your financial situation. How about investing the money you earn from bounty and airdrops and see if you can make it grow through ICO's?
That priority however, is good for someone who really does not have much to invest anyway. I would not expect someone who can invest as much as $10000 in a project as I have seen people like that to go participate in bounties. The question OP asked is not really a question that needs much debate.

If one has enough to invest, then you can go ahead without bounty, but for someone who does not, and the chance for a bounty is opened, why not work and earn it by making bounty your priority as you said, but at the end, the priority for everyone balls down on the pocket of the individual.
1749  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HODL vs Day trading on: March 03, 2018, 05:55:59 PM
Hi. Just wanted to know u guys opinion of do the day trading and hold. Thank you in advance.

Well if you are extremely risk taker you would go after the day trading. Day trading is very very risky and dangerous specially if your capital is limited and you put all in your money in day trading it might loose nor earn. Anything can happen in day trading and all i can say it is really intense and stressful. That's why i do prefer holding the coins for long term for a peaceful mind and less worries.
That is even a whole higher level of risk for someone who is new to trading. If the OP had asked if HODL or trading is better, I would obviously choose trading any day anytime. But when we are referring to day trade, that is a whole new level entirely and it requires a great deal of knowledge and attention. Nevertheless, for someone like you who prefer peace of mind and apparently not ready to learn trading or have the time to do so, like you said, no need stressing yourself than to just hold.
1750  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: ICO investment Risk on: March 03, 2018, 05:08:41 PM
haha, of course, investing in anything is always risky and ICO is not an exception. the bigger the risk the greater the reward. we have to understand and accept it

Yes, that's right invesment a risk ico or not ico, investment is very risk.
no invesment in the world is do not have a risk. I invest of ICO we can afford to lose it.
Every investment is very risky but what makes it a little less risky is when you are able to do a good research on the ICO and be certain you are investing in the right market. I saw a project recently, adblurb ICO and I had to shake my head when I saw the team.

How can a team with a huge experience as they claimed, at this day and age in the technology sector would not know the value of LinkedIn and every one of them decided to open a new account to pimp it without a single skill endorsement. Come on! Some things are always glaring, but some investors just do not usually care.
1751  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How Much Should You Invest in Bitcoin? on: March 03, 2018, 01:39:01 PM
I don't have an exact amount to suggest for starters with Bitcoin's trading and holding, but I think as big your investment in Bitcoin as more potential profit you are going to make in the future. There is some risk involved without any doubt, but it is very small because Bitcoin is getting more stability than other crypto currencies, and its price is expected to rise highly soon.
Should anyone even have anything to suggest considering that everyone have a decision to make on their own. The only thing I can say is that whoever wants to invest in bitcoin should try as much as possible to ask as much question they can ask to understand perfectly well what they are doing and then make decisions based on that. How many percentage they want to decide to go from their fiat holding by then should be their concern.

Any smart investor should always be prepared for the worst and the ability to do that helps them to take calculated risk and make decisions. No one can give a definite answer, as some prefer 2% of their fiat holding, while some are comfortable with 50% or even more into bitcoin. At the end of the day, everyone understands the risk they are taking, they understand the value they should end up getting and they know what they are doing which is the most important.
1752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How would we know which cryptocurrency would be Scam? on: March 03, 2018, 08:40:34 AM
Hey, in my opinion, investing in ICO's is a bit dangerous... most of them are scammers. So in case you are planning to invest in a ICO, make sure you do your research. Get to know more about the project, their team, check their website... Try to check every single thing, that way you will reduce the risk of losing your money due to a scam. Hope it helps!  Grin
at least from this there is no means to protect yourself from fraud. Even with full information about the Project, you can still be deceived. Scammers also know what they are doing and trying to be as convincing as possible.
Yeah, sometimes you can be deceived, but it would take a lot of not finding some information for you to get deceived. The mistake a lot of people make is to concentrate on whitepaper, the roadmap and living the main idea of finding out about the team. This is an internet age, and there is no information you need about a team that you will not get.

I remember how some guy who claims to be the CEO of a project's ICO and said he is an English man. In fact, I started suspecting from the use of English on the website, and then decided to want to have a chat with him, only for him to bail out. LinkedIn profile for all members were all new, and for those who claimed to be IT professionals and professional in their industry? Come on!
1753  Economy / Marketplace / Re: market now on: March 03, 2018, 07:07:56 AM
Market in green now and thats good
Yeah, there is always that good feeling about it most of the time when you just see the whole market in green rather than red. However, I always look forward to reds anyway as moments that one can have once in a while to buy more. You know, the more you buy in reds, the more you gain in greens. Just how it has been fashioned. For now, bitcoin is looking strong and that have some impacts in the market as well.
1754  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Hacking is the Big Problem on: March 03, 2018, 06:37:18 AM
Your money is safe only in your wallet and if you are trader you agree with risk that you might lose your funds. Remember that.
Hacking is actually one of the biggest threat to all those who are there in the world of crypto currency as their money is highly exposed to hackers and there are hackers which are continuously trying their best to grab all your coins. Till the time, you will not be having enough of knowledge about the things and that you will not take care of your coins well, there will always be a risk of losing of money.
I don't think so it is a big problem because the hackers can't hack the wallet without the private keys if you have your private key safely then your coins will be safe forever and you never have to store your coins in an exchange wallets where the most of hacking are happening.
It is actually a big problem for those who are not security cautious and ended up leaving their account vulnerable. The truth is that most people do not have much knowledge about security and they end up either on a phishing website or something totally contrary to what would make their account secured. It takes being extra careful and it can only be an issue for those caliber of people.
1755  Economy / Speculation / Re: What would be the signs a big dip is coming on: March 01, 2018, 10:25:35 AM
The behavior of the cryptocurrency has no templates. No one can predict the behavior of prices. Trading cryptocurrencies are not governing factors. Simultaneous actions of whales can change the behavior of the market in any direction. The success of the cryptocurrency market is more dependent on luck.
Far impossible to predict, but for someone who is knowledgeable on how to make use of the charts and indicators, as well as support and resistance to their advantage, they should be able to make some decisions based on that effectively. We are always expecting an outcome, and the thing with trading is to keep asking yourself that, if this happens, what will happen next and that is how you are able to analyze.

One thing you should always understand is that, unless you are just gambling your position, the market one way or the other will always be a few steps ahead of you to confirm a position and also one of the reasons you do not joke with your stop loss.

However, if you are looking for a dip, you should be ready to know how to analyze candles, understand bearish situations as well as divergence, and with that, you should be able to get into a market that is about to switch to the downtrend, but the market will always give you time to make that decision.
1756  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin after Chinese holiday on: March 01, 2018, 08:41:23 AM
Chinese New Year is a pain in the ass, it fucks everything. The bitcoin price always tanks, my partner & I run a female clothing store & deliveries go to shit for about 3 weeks due to factories closing.

You should see my list of Paypal disputes due to them  Grin
Lol. I can feel you deeply bro because the same thing happens to me. I have never seen a moment in my life where your business just ends up stalling because of the Chinese new year issue. I have a wedding store and due to my past experience with the whole China holiday, I always try as much as possible to stock up quickly and get my delivery done before the holidays, most especially for the fast moving ones.

With respect to bitcoin though, even though it has been a trend, I am still always skeptical about China having much impact on this, but I guess this generally affects the market since a lot of people already have that notion anyway.
1757  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why not play games online instead of gambling? on: March 01, 2018, 05:22:18 AM
It is quite a silly question to be asked because playing games itself is a type of gambling if you have decided some sort of bet before starting and hence the entire scene becomes more serious and it becomes obligatory to win if one is actually worried about his or her money .but there are other people also who take it as a game only merely for the sake of fun and are not having any notion about the winning or losing.
How is that ever a silly question ? The point here which nobody is clearly facing and we are being sentimental about is that, very few people actually take gambling for fun and those are those who actually have so much to throw around anyway. The way some newbies talk about making profit from gambling, come on! Let's be realistic here.

Even those who feel they are having fun sometimes, mainly use that to hold themselves back knowing from experience how gambling really is, so at the end, unless you have some other motive than winning when you are gambling, I do not see any other reason why we are gambling. If I want to roll dice with my partner and declare who the winner is, I can have fun in doing that without betting any money.
1758  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to know before the Dump? on: February 28, 2018, 06:22:21 PM
Suck it up. Cryprocurrency is a very volatile market, so always expect those kinds of violent price swings; we don't expect prices to go up forever. If you're expecting a crash, sell your crypto for fiat. That way, you don't lose value out of your investments, and you can buy back at a lower price.
Exactly, but if he really wants to play with the swings, then he should better know what is he doing, so he does not end up even losing the more.

Nevertheless, most especially for altcoins, I have always noticed, there is usually this huge period for them when they just increase hugely in price and for someone who is smart just like you have said, to be able to hold more position when it goes down, just sell and buy back lower. I would not really consider that without at least learning how to do some trend following.
1759  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What's the worst trading decision you've ever made? on: February 28, 2018, 05:38:45 PM
My worst trade decision was a few months ago. I bought all my investment in BCH and inmediately the market started to decrease. Panic seized me so I decided to sell all.
The next day the market started again to raise.

That's a common theme popping up here. The panic sell is a traders worst enemy (closely followed by the fomo buy). Sadly, ignoring emotion is easier said than done!
Every trader should have a strategy and stick to it, rather than panic. However, sometimes, I would not consider somethings as panic; I would rather call it playing safe. The same BCH has reached my stop loss before, sold it and all of a sudden it started rising back, of course some would want to quickly buy back into it and then all of a sudden it came all the way back down before you know it. That is one controlled market I have told myself never to trade again. So, at the end, it is just what they call moving on, and better safe than sorry.
1760  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading FOREX or Crypto? on: February 28, 2018, 02:53:32 PM
if I prefer trading in crypto because I do not understand forex. trading in crypto more choice when compared with forex
Nothing makes the two different apart from its complexities and understanding how the market works. Ta can fail in any scenario, otherwise, if it was meant to be only TA, then there would not be anything called stop loss. Every market have its own way of responding to every fundamental issues, and none can be exempted.

If you can trade Forex, I see no reason for you having problem with cryptocurrencies once you understand the market and vice versa, but at the end it only depends on your own preference.
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