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1901  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you decide when it's time to sell? on: January 17, 2018, 06:25:54 PM
I sell my coins whenever the price is high. But its hard to know if the price is good enough to sell my coins. Some coins are grow even more in the future.
One thing is for sure and that is sell your coins only when the market value of the coins which you are having starts rising to this much of value that you can get some very good amount of money in the form of profit by selling your bitcoins. There is no right time for selling your bitcoins.

It is you who has to make this decision that now is the time to sell your bitcoins and that you can only do once you get satisfied with the money which you are getting in return.
1902  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who is currently losing money on bitcoin? on: January 17, 2018, 05:42:35 PM
I suppose that there are some newbies (and some non-newbies too) out there who got invested over 10k, and are currently losing money.
Losing money is very stressfull, so I was just wondering... are you cutting your losses or you will hodl your stash untill 2020 and more following an "all or nothing" strategy?
Why till 2020 ? More or less you will be proven wrong as bitcoin price will bounce back into $20k levels within this month for sure. Only the new investors who are treating bitcoin like any other stocks may get panic and will decide to cut losses earlier. But for those who are believing into the core concepts of bitcoin will not get panic even they have bought bitcoin above $10k levels.

Everyone is losing at this point. The amount of losses depends only on the price they bought the currency for. Some lose more others less which is still very stressful for everyone.
May be losses in profit portions but definitely not in initial capital. Because I do see lots of people are holding bitcoins at least from 2015 and they might have bought bitcoins around $500 to $800 levels hence they will not go into any stressful experience.
1903  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is $100,000 in 2018 still really possible? on: January 17, 2018, 05:07:44 PM
1K is possible, 100k is possible. Nobody knows. It´s all a big manipulation of whales.
Do you still believe into whales manipulations ? All you must have to know is, whales will lose their power when bitcoin community grows as well whales would have cashed out their bitcoins by the levels of $5000/$10,000. So, we do not need to worry on whales till today.

$100k price levels are highly possible for bitcoins within 2018 as there are lots of new investors are coming in and lots of many positive news are happening around bitcoin ecosystem. All we need to do is, just hodling tightly.
1904  Economy / Speculation / Re: I just sold all my Bitcoins on: January 17, 2018, 04:16:22 PM
you are right except for the part about the recovery
But, I feel he is very right in every part except the subject of this topic. Recovery is inevitable but we cannot be sure when it will take place. I am somewhat confident before end of this month we can see bitcoin prices to start flying again toward 30k dollars as I am believing 100k dollars as year end target price levels.

Having more patience and waiting for bitcoins to bounce must be a right options in front of all the bitcoiners. But I am not seeing this action with most of them as market still face huge selling pressures.
1905  Economy / Speculation / Re: Screw that, I'm hodling on: January 17, 2018, 02:07:35 PM
I am hodling at least until mid summer of this year. And if the price stays down, then that would mean to me that I definitely missed the big opportunity at the 20K USD ATH.
You may go wrong as per what happened with bitcoin prices in previous years. Bitcoin went to $1200 in 2013 and then fell down to $180 in 2015 and then raised to $20,000 in 2017. So, you never need to worry on today's bloodbath as bitcoin prices are always tend to recover from any kind of downfall.

I am a long term holder. I preferred to hold even bitcoin prices touched some peaks from $220. I am targeting million dollar levels for bitcoins hence I am not basically bothering about in between time ups and downs.
1906  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think that bitcoin can reduce corruption? on: January 17, 2018, 01:25:20 PM
The blockchain is a highly decentralized, unleaded, lawless, anonymous, almost anonymous, decentralized management ownership. The blockchain is the purest form of democracy where people don't need to know each other and trust can be used. Bitcoin has no way of corrupting corruption!

I don´t know what you mean exactly, but in terms of the Bitcoin system being corrupt in itself, I agree that it is trustless. I would not dare to name it democratic and not completely decentralised, as there are too many large actors that carry lot of weight.
Oh no, Bitcoin can’t end corruption. Money is always the route of all evil, no matter how it is, even if you change it gold, silver and diamond, it will always remain the same. I know the op means ending government corruption, but it can’t do it. Money is still money, and Bitcoin can even be an easier way for them to steal.
You may not be right all the times. Just imagine a situation where pseudo anonymous feature of bitcoin is being tracked. I mean, a person will receive money in one verified bitcoin address and his spending will be traced by other known and verified addresses. If he spend some bitcoins to some unknown address then a question will be raised. This way government may track the in and out of money flow.

This can help preventing corruption in my understanding. Here we need to note if a person has another stream of bitcoin income from other source then government cannot track that. But his main source of money will be under monitor if this bitcoin will be legalized.
1907  Economy / Economics / Re: why should bitcoin! on: January 17, 2018, 12:49:37 PM
because all these altcoins that are being created non-stop are not good projects. they are mostly shitty projects (hence the name "shitcoin") with nothing to offer and the rest of them also struggle with many issues which prevents them from gaining any real adoption and staying 100% speculative tool for traders to play around with.
Actually the profits from various ICO projects have been reduced and also most of the ICO projects turn out to be scam and just rum away taking all the invested money by various investors which gives bitcoins more importance.

Any newly coin faces several issues like listing on several exchanges, price dump, etc but as compared to bitcoins, bitcoins do not have any such problem and also bitcoins can be trusted much more easily. But most of the other successful alts can surely take the place of bitcoins soon if the network of bitcoins keeps remaining congested.
1908  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happened to bitcoins after one died? on: January 17, 2018, 11:53:33 AM
I will have a plan for the bitcoin I have before I die. I will dedicate 20% of my property to my children, and the rest of my life will go to charity to help those in need. Whatever you do, when successful, you should be concerned and share with the social community that has sprouted for you. Never think of yourself and forget about everyone.
Yes, like any other property, we also must give same important for this digital property also. Yes, bitcoin is being recognized as digital asset hence we must nominate who is going to use bitcoin after us. This is kind of responsibility for a every bitcoiner so that they can be sure their hard work will not be wasting after them.

When we are handling over our other property to our next-generation then why not we cannot plan what we are going to do with our bitcoin after our life. It is a mandatory for every bitcoiner with their bitcoin savings.
1909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Relationships! on: January 17, 2018, 09:01:13 AM
Here in my county gambling offices are all in a hiding places where no body will get to see the participants let alone making it known  to the families and friends that you are in into gambling.

But why is it happening? Gambling is not a bad deal. I like gambling with friends, and you can meet a lot of people if you are a gambler.

But i do not like those addicts who are always risking all their money.

And their families shouldn't look at them like if they are bad people, for me, it is fine.

Anyway, i am always trying to be far away from those addicts.
Every gambler starts gambling as a non-addict but over the time due to frequent gambling they are becoming addicted to gambling and it is highly affecting their most of the relationships.

Gambling with your friends is a good idea but at the same time your friends may enforce you to keep gambling in some situations. If you are strict enough about that then you can continue your safe gambling. Gambling is by nature addictive, some times an addicted friend also will lead to disasters unexpectedly.
1910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: January 17, 2018, 08:28:52 AM
My loses keeps coming back to gambling, I already lose so much money  on gambling and the only way to not coming back is by winning back all my loses and when it happen I will leave gambling for sure but you know it's really hard to do, I even lose more on gambling
Until you will be recognizing what you are doing, I am afraid you will never stop gambling by coming back among your losses. You must come out of your hallucination of making money from gambling. If you think you are living in a real world of easy money making opportunities then probably until the end of your life you will never find any improvement in your lifestyle. Better make a difference before it will be too late for any change.

You will have 100s of reasons for coming back to gambling. But realizing the true is the only thing that will stop you from keep going into gambling.
1911  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: January 17, 2018, 07:25:50 AM
Yes it's really matter, when you have much experience on gambling you will know every aspect on gambling and will not do same thing that make you lose in the past. For example casino like poker, when you are still new you can easily lose and when you already experienced you can do bluff and many else
Poker and sports betting are few exceptional gambling types and we cannot take them as an example for making use of experience while gambling. Gambling is not alone based on skill set. So, we cannot be sure all the times to make use of our experience in gambling.

Only if gambling is all about skills and technical aspects then we can be sure making use of our experience to make profits with a gambling. But most of the gambling games are just a test for your luck for that particular day.

When luck is the deciding factor then how you can depend on your experience ?
1912  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day Trading (Scalping) and Long term trading on: January 16, 2018, 03:03:49 PM
Which is better to make more profit between Day Trading and Long teem trading. I want to make more profits trading Cryptocurrency, I need to know which of the two makes huge return mostly
I think both types of trading are equally generating a large return, and also high risk. but if you already believe one of these trades then should occupied with your skills and strategies. This trade is very profitable for us, but if you do not know how to trade then it will not be profitable, but will harm your own. then before trading should first learn how to trade, so no trouble in trading later.
Yes, this is quite better than to work blindly. You shouldn’t be working in this field if you don’t have any basic knowledge of what is right and what is wrong. Many people have been scammed by the hackers and other fake exchanges as they don’t know what are ifs and buts of it. So, trading requires some strong conceptual knowledge so that the results can be produced better.
1913  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how improve trading on: January 16, 2018, 10:26:41 AM
Just create a McAfee coin of the day trading bot Cheesy

Your answer is ridiculous, I do not think that creating a coin and getting it accepted by everyone is easy. In fact, we need to do more, everythings are never easy.
No bot can actually think in a way like a man does. Gaining for a trading bot cannot help you in making you better in trading. You can become better in trading by learning the things which you don’t know. Moreover, learning from your past mistakes and taking the guidance can also help you serve the purpose. It is a very long marathon and you need to keep trying hard for learning new things.
Not only that bots need to be adjusted so they can profit from the market so you need to have a deep knowledge about trading already to profit from those bots, bots are not going to give you earnings in a magic way the advantage of bots is it can trade with no rest all day every day something that no trader can do even at its best physical condition.
I do not even advise the use of bots. Yes, a lot of people have been making a lot from it if you can get the setting right, but bots only deal with settings and they normally do not use their own mind to make some decisions humans would normally have. They can still go a long way though, but like you said, it is better to learn, have the skills to even know how you want to set a bot to work for you.
1914  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why did I lose on trade ?? on: January 16, 2018, 09:15:35 AM
I think you have wrong definition about how to trade. In trade, we buy when the price is down and sell when it up. While you do the opposite, of course you lose. Please don't blame the website with your mistake. Why you not learn about it before you starting to deposit.
One probable reason why you keep losing a lot in trading is because you see it as gambling and that is the reason a lot of people will never win. Trading requires a lot of attention to every detail, the ability to learn without rushing into it, and once you go the other way round, there is no way you will never lose. Trading is not just something one can just dabble into, you have to learn.

You just have to keep reading, learning new things, seeing how to use different indicators to make a good trade and on and on. This is the only way anyone can do pretty well in trading. No one was born a pro or successful trader, they got their based on knowledge and experience and learning got them there. Anyone who tries to skip that learning stage will only end up shitting up themselves.
1915  Economy / Economics / Re: What makes Bitcoin to move this fast? on: January 13, 2018, 03:56:00 PM
I think there are a lot of factors that can cause bitcoin prices to become this fast and the first I think of course because of the large number of investors who go to invest in bitcoin this is of course make the demand for bitcoin to be very high and of course this makes the price of bitcoin increased very quickly. and besides that, as well as many investors who want to go to invest in bitcoin because bitcoin is a decentralized virtual currency that no party either from the government or other institutions can control bitcoin. that means bitcoin is an investment form of investment that can be done very easily and of course this will make the interest of investors willing to invest in bitcoin.
I believe that bitcoin can really move fast  this far because of its good feedback and a simple way of earning profit we can really see its profit and it is really simple to use for payment and regarding to the price it is really exciting and it can really give as a huge profit.I believe that because also of social m3dia bitcoin really grow do fast because many people really get interest on it.

Sometimes I won't be able to know the reason behind the increasing price all of a sudden even though there's nothing news or upcoming events that will affect bitcoin but I think I missed some important factors here (like whales controlling the price)
There is really no two reasons, except for the fact that the demand is increasing more than the supply. Now, the reason why we see a lot of new investors coming in everyday and buying into bitcoin could be in either two ways. Whereas some may want to get rich quickly, some really are here for the fact that bitcoin will make a really big difference in the future. However, we have not seen anything yet.

Just due to the demand in recent days before the end of last year got so huge and scary that it became totally certain that those stages were not healthy and FOMOs were just the ones trying to get into the system. The reason could be for any reason, either to get rich quickly or to really be a part of the system that would change everything in the long run.
1916  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: January 13, 2018, 01:44:41 PM
I'm not sure about it. Recently there are many new cryptocurrencies appearing and competing. These cryptocurrencies have a chance to grow big and offer a bigger profit. Thus, many people are more interested in investing in other promising cryptocurrencies instead of investing in bitcoin. However if you want to invest your money in bitcoin, I think it's nothing bad.
Bitcoins have already grown much and recently they also can be bit back which usually creates a fear in the minds of huge investors. Bitcoin does not always go according to us but also sometimes we do need to take up some loss. Even the price for bitcoins may go down depending on the demand factor. As the demand will increase, the price for bitcoins will too increase giving you good profits.

You should always try to invest the amount you can afford to lose as always you cannot have profits but also sometimes you do need to afford an loss. Bitcoin trading or holding bitcoins is not that easy work and needs a lot of patience and knowledge about the coin you are investing in. Even for me, bitcoins and other cryptos have been profitable and I also have earned a good living due to them presently.
1917  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What's happening to Bitcoin? on: January 13, 2018, 01:13:49 PM
Yea. It is going down very strongly. dropped to over $ 5000. But I do not care because I know it will recover soon. Many people are investing in BCH. I think that is the reason why the BTC has fallen so sharply. Believe me it will recover stronger and will reach $ 20000 soon
Many had panic selling of bitcoin and I agree with others some are in profit taking. Yes when price drops it will recover again like the time it was happen. Btc price is always volatile so I think if you have funds buy at the dips and hold.
Yeah you are right. The price of bitcoin is so much volatile and nothing could be say about the price in the future. It has dropped from 19500 to almost 15000 dollars and many people say that it will drop to 10000 dollars till the end of this year but I do not agree and if so, it is not a problem because we know bitcoin. It will regain its value in the next few days and it is predicted that till the end of 2018 the price will hit 30000 dollars.
The problem people always have is that they listen to FUD news a lot and they let it affect their decision.

Bitcoin is new and for those who must have looked back in the past, they should know by now that resistance and support is something that makes market what it is and the volatility is as a result of the level at which bitcoin is right now and once uncertainty is over, we will have less of the huge volatility we are having now. It is already regaining its value right now and that means a lot.
1918  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day Trading (Scalping) and Long term trading on: January 13, 2018, 07:13:55 AM
I'm a fan of scalping, as you you can make a good profit with the exploatation of micromovements without using too much capital.
But of course it's very risky, you need to be very good and... you have to be stress resistant, because it's a high level adrenaline activity.
Long term trading is boring, I don't like it.
.. Good, but don't you also prefer to HODL some coins in Long term?
Well, he can start from somewhere and if he knows how to trade, I will even advise he starts with that first and make use of the percentage of some of the little profit he gets to look for a good coin to hold. Holding is good, but trust mate, trading is a lot better to make some good profit and increasing what you have, even though risky, with great knowledge, you can do well.

Both day trading and long term trading can be profitable as long as you know what you are doing and you do not see trading as gamble but a real profession that requires a lot of work, effort and learning.

Day trading is very good but you are going to have to be stuck on the monitor each and every day and close the trade every day, but long term is easy as you only need to do quick analysis, set a position and then look forward to it. I combine both anyway, so it all depends on you.
1919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what impact has gambling make in your life? on: January 11, 2018, 02:10:20 PM
In 2011, I went into gambling and I was trading in betonmarket, but I got disappointed after losing alot of money and those of my friends! Since then I have a serious fear about gambling and betting. But I have started developing interest again as it see that cryptocurrencies make gambling easy  and if I can control greed I can really make profit.

making profit through gambling? I'd love to see that
And that is how addiction starts. Gambling is not an investment, so how on earth would anyone ever consider it as a profit making venture. That is totally absurd and I bet time will end up teaching such people lessons anyway, if they eventually decide to even see it as a lesson and not end up as an addict. For those thinking like this, it is better to have the fear now than venturing into it at all.

Positive impact from gambling is most of the times do happen very rarely also those positive impacts will not sustain for longer periods. Hence, positive impact is not at all possible even if it will occur, one gambler cannot enjoy that.
1920  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I always lose all my tokens and btc on gambling~ on: January 11, 2018, 01:39:28 PM
The only way to not loose all your tokens , btc or cash is jut to not gamble at all . Gambling often turns as a quite enjoyable activity that you can kill time with or just do whenever you are bored . You can occasionally go to land based casinos or just have a trip to vegas for the sake of fun , but on the long term run gambling is just like any other addiction , with all the pejorative-ness that the word "addiction" has .It is a very unhealthy activity for both your moral and pocket , and it's bad effects could even reach your family or people that you care for .
Very unhealthy activity indeed and it is funny that some people after losing a lot still always end up coming back as a result of addiction and that really makes me wonder what they must really be thinking in such situations.

If someone like the OP decided to check back on what would have happened if he held such a coin or token, I am sure they would need no one to tell them that gambling only ends up ruining. Unfortunately most people always prefer to experience those pain instead of staying away by seeing how most other gamblers are struggling.
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