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1341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will explode! on: June 20, 2018, 08:23:07 AM
I agree lets hope that holders will be rewarded
Holders will always be rewarded and there is simply no doubt about that one. If you guys are concentrating so much on the short term, you may end up being disappointed and you do not want to get caught up in that emotional state of mind. I am so bullish in the long term on bitcoin but in the short term, no one can guarantee anything and with what we have today, I guess it is obvious this market is not ready for a serious uptrend yet.

Bitcoin will explode in 2019 still anything may possible in 2018. If we manage to have $10k to $15k within 2018 then I guess that will be more than enough to call 2018 also another decent year for bitcoins as we are having strong resistance levels around $6200 levels.
1342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will 2018 bitcoin amendment price be similar to 2014? on: June 20, 2018, 07:53:54 AM
I saw the news today, Binance CEO said, 2018 bitcoin correction price similar to 2014, what do you think?
At least, with the way things are going, it sure looks similar and I would not be surprised if we get to see something pretty similar knowing that the huge correction was imminent anyway. Nevertheless, it is hard to always judge the state of the market by what must have happened in the past, so in that way, I tend to always stay with the trend presently and see where it leads, but there is a huge possibility that this can sure happen.

Honestly I am praying not to have a similar year of 2014. After hitting $1200 in late 2013, bitcoin made a low in 2015 January. In between months were full of ups downs which are exact same as what we are having after hitting $19,800 in late 2017. We all need a new ATH right away to break all these.
1343  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: There is no such thing safe trading on: June 20, 2018, 06:17:10 AM
The trading word itself represents the risk. So no matter how much experience you have or how good is your mentor you will have every chance to lose. This safe trading word doesn't exist. If you are trading any asset whose value depends on various external and internal factors which you can't control you will never be safe. The thing which matter is you should always be in overall profit no matter how you trade, what you trade...
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Can you tell whose people do tell trading is risk free? Anything on this world do anytime involves risk even not on trading. When we do tend to earn money then risk would always been tied to it which means losing money is inevitable. Some people completely blinded by big profits made by trading which they didnt even think up the possibilities when negative things would be faced to face. If you are afraid of losing money or risk then trading investment isnt for you.
Anyone who even says trading is risk free is not ready to trade or does not have any single idea what he or she says. Trading comes with a lot of risk and this is the reason why no one should think they can just opt into trading, start buying low and selling high and think that is all that is there when it comes to trading but there is just so much more.

Risk comes with every form of investment and profession, but the idea of learning is to be able to minimize those risks not eliminate them completely. A safe trading may focus on on eliminating the risks which otherwise mean preventing losses. Such type of trading will be possible for anyone hence safe trading is an existing one.
1344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Successful ICO Experiences on: June 19, 2018, 08:38:45 AM
in my view ICO investment is profitable but before investment you must research about ICO because most of ICO are fake and wnt scam money from you.  In white paper they write the detail of project but we cannot identify the reality of ICO in white paper. you must search about the developers if their developers are professional and work hard on development it can be real and about team members you discus about the project with team members you will identify that the team members are real or fake if team members are fake so the ICO will be fake.
I have actually been very successful with so many ICOs and it gets easier since all you have to do is to stay vigilant and smart rather than just investing in anything. Although it takes a lot of patience but your belief in the project you are holding is one thing that is going to help you through. Being a trader has also been able to help me get the best of my investment in the long run, which for long term trend following, I have been able to make so much from my investments over the years.
1345  Economy / Economics / Re: BITCOIN IS NOT BUBBLE!! on: June 19, 2018, 07:34:55 AM
yeah indeed, bitcoin movement to getting profit its need a lot of time to make it much profit when investing in it, not just in the short term invest that people can earn
Yes it is right. Investors do not need to worry about the price and they have to buy as much as possible as there are some whale who are selling their coins only to buy at a lower price. If the investors will buy now then they will get the profit if they will not buy and will fear from the price then they will lose the opportunity and will lose the chance to buy at a lower price.
Bitcoij price is trading so stable and is getting such a strong support from its investors there I would also think that bitcoin is not a bubble but it is trading in its actual price, it is only because of the increasing interest of the people, i think that people interest will increase in future which will also increase bitcoin price.
At least, if we are to consider how the price of bitcoin has been for some years now, one can actually say it is in a state where the last year bubble popped and then we are trying to find a very good support now.

There is no doubt that we experienced a bubble last year and even though that does not make bitcoin a bubble, but the hype that came about was a bubble which we are passing through the huge corrective phase right now. However, it is always like that and could happen to any asset, gold which it has happened before in the past, real estate, silver, name it.
1346  Economy / Economics / Re: Diversify Investments on: June 18, 2018, 03:33:05 PM
Usually they recommend you to diversify your investment, so you avoid losses.

But as a real approach, having $1.5k, would you invest in how many cryptocurrencies ?

What if I invest little by little, only in Bitcoin, would that work as well ?
Having a lot of coins invested, its totally not good  cause you can't monitor them all. And having BTC investment alone aren't profitable enough today as market volatility goes high, it is better to spread it into some potential alts atleast 5 coins of them would be enough and can be easily to monitor anytime.

It's really a good thing to diversify your investments but make sure to invest in potential coins so you won't make regrets in the end.But with the present situation right now,bitcoin is in dips so expect that altcoins too are having low prices at the same time.So i suggest to focus in bitcoin and maybe some of good altcoins,gold and stocks.
Yeah, that is very necessary if you at least do not want to end up in an unknown or unexpected situation. Diversifying has always been the best bet for investors as it gives them rest of mind when it comes to utilizing their funds well. However, the same way you would want to diversify in cryptocurrencies is the same way you should also consider diversifying offline so you do not end up making a terrible mistake.

No one knows the future or what could happen to cryptocurrency and we are all just hoping, but whichever way, diversifying in other investments offline, will surely help a lot.
1347  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold & Silver are safe than bank deposits ?? on: June 18, 2018, 02:29:18 PM
when investing in the bank and usually in the form of money and money from time to time of course will be less in value. perhaps in my opinion it would be more profitable to make gold or silver as an investment. because its exchange rate has never decreased
Fiat has over time grown shitty and I have never seen anybody who has never regretted storing huge amount of money as savings in bank and not wishing they never invested it in something more valuable that would at least give them a return and some security for as long as they want to. Banks on the other hand may even end up becoming dysfunctional and thereby affecting users of the bank as this has happened in my country sometimes back or you won't even get anything at all on your savings. Gold is much better in my opinion too.
1348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: thinking quiting after lose on gambling. on: June 18, 2018, 01:19:48 PM
to overcome gambling addiction we have to make our day busy with any work or habit. you are right online games also very attractive and many people addicted to these games here we will not lose our money but we can kill our free time. I too addicted to sports betting and later i start to play pool game to overcome gambling addiction and I succeed. we have many options to stop gambling but self-control is important.
Anyone who is even with a busy day and weeks will definitely find it hard to even think about gambling in the first place. I still do feel that those who are kind of idle most of the time or have plenty of time to themselves doing mostly nothing are the ones who will always be tempted to keep it going most of the time.

Thinking about quitting after losing is something that is strange as that person will need to re-evaluate himself to be sure he is not already addicted. Losing is part of the game, and whoever cannot deal with it, should better quit before it is too late.
1349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling in the crypto market on: June 18, 2018, 08:32:02 AM
maybe yes and maybe not. I think it depends on each person on how that person wants from the crypto and his purposes to join with the crypto. and if he only wants to use crypto for gambling then he can go with that. but I think there are other people that want to use crypto for making a better life so they can try to make money from the crypto.
I feel most people in the crypto world simply use crypto for gambling because they believe they can use it to increase their position in the long run which is why we keep seeing a lot of people who are so focused on the false mentality of profiting from gambling and letting it wreck them. However, for some other reasons such as anonymity, a lot of gamblers do that since they really do not have to be subjected to any law on gambling or taxation, and staying anonymous, helps them achieve that.
1350  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: June 17, 2018, 10:32:33 AM
Many people gamble, but all the bad ends of gambling addiction are well known, that's the main reason why people think negatively of gambling. Just like about drugs, let's be real, many people and our loved celebrities sit on drugs, but all negative of people who became addicted and died or killed somebody are on talk.
Yeah the ending results are so obvious. There have been so hundreds and thousands of gamblers who came rich and gone poor. There are only few, so few lucky stories where if someone have got into gambling and leaves it being a rich person. Because that is all based on luck and no one would be able to make luck accompany you every other day. So leave it.
Gambling is the only thing in which you can make true predictions before the game starts because it all depends upon the motivation of the player and everyone can easily see and point out which gambler seems to be more motivated and which one is not. Gambling has made many people poor who were once rich in their lives and this story will continue till the end of this planet.   
Motivation does not have anything to do with gambling and I felt you even contradicted yourself in a way. Being motivated to do something means you expect a good outcome from it, but in reality, you should not even expect that from gambling at all, but count on your luck to do it for you and if it does not, just accept your fate and loss, then, move on which is usually the hardest part for a lot of gamblers as the impulse just wants them to continue believing there could still be a chance to win it all back and this brings about a negative situation for them in the end.
1351  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: WHY THE SUDDEN FALL IN BITCOIN PRICE? on: June 17, 2018, 09:21:37 AM
Most likely, the rich whales decided to buy themselves bitcoins with a big discount and collapsed the price. We should wait.
The best thing right now is to take a chill pill and see how things will end up unfolding but there is absolutely great manipulation in this market and it is really appalling. It is appalling because this is sending wrong signals even to investors and it is even so obvious that the whales are just easily playing with the market the way they like and I wonder for how long they are just going to keep doing this.

We need real growth, we need these guys silenced and with some high liquidity, I guess over time, they may go into the caves where they belong. Those who are all being calm with their patience always find chances to make big money out of crypto trading. All others are regretting for their foolish decisions later.
1352  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Master the trading on: June 17, 2018, 06:44:23 AM
it really can not be targeted because it will really be slammed with individual nature. there are people who are able to learn from experience very quickly and even some are always repeating the same mistake....
Righ. The thing is that some will make mistakes, learn from it to build up their experience and get better while some will start complaining about everything and rather than learn from their mistake, they keep repeating the same thing over and over again until they get frustrated and leave trading completely.

Trading is not a small thing that someone should just be gambling and those who are always ready to learn and dedicated to that will always get better in the long run which is what makes the difference.
1353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is facebook creating their own crypto? on: June 16, 2018, 08:58:39 AM
Heard a rumor that facebook  was thinking about launching their own crypto. What do you guys think about this?
Maybe they gonna launch a bounty platform like https://bountyhive.io, https://bounties.biz, etc. But creating there own crypto currency is totally out of the picture. Besides they are already dominate the social media patforms.
It is very doubtful that Facebook it is going to create a bounty platform like bountyhive why would they do that? It does not make a lot of sense, for what I know Facebook is researching about the blockchain but I do not know if they are going to create a cryptocurrency it seems unlikely to me since they will not get any kind of gain if they do it.
What are you guys even saying for heaven sake ? What business has Facebook gotten with having a bounty platform ?
We are talking integration of blockchain or having its own crypto and you guys are going all the way to bounty ?
It is a decentralized world and if they are permitted legally to have their own cryptocurrency, I see no reason why they cannot. The idea of doing that may be as a way to help others who may want to run advert to have a decentralized way of paying, or whatever it is at the end of it all.
1354  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Low activity long term BTC investing? on: June 16, 2018, 08:08:18 AM
Holding is the best choice for sure and it will never get you lose if you will hold your bitcoin with patience for long time, people choose bitcoin has it gives profit for future rainy days, most of investors support long term investing as it is basic need to the day to have something saved for our future and this way we can avoid 80% of lose every year, holding and long term investment turns our 80% of lose into profit.
It is even better to keep watching one coin in his or her wallet and looking forward to the rainy days than trying to put them to work like the OP by any means and end up losing most of it. I said that because a lot of people always want to put their btc to work and they forget the risk involved in what they want to embark on and rather than trying to learn so as to minimize the possible risk, they just go ahead and lose a whole lot.

Add the factor about the spreading of different kind of fraud crypto project here in bitcointalk.org ( not all but almost half or up ). That's why we cannot trust easily the newly created project which is the common chain reaction to slow the productivity or progress of the cryptocurrencies community.
I must agree with you. But you can avoid them easily. You must focus on only established coins so that you can safeguard yourself. When more people ignore improper projects then we can see less number still promising projects alone will pop up.
1355  Economy / Exchanges / Re: what is the best exchange in 2018 on: June 16, 2018, 05:22:40 AM
Such exchanges as Poloniex, HitBTC and OKEX I don't like. Poloniex did not verify me for 7 months, I stopped writing letters to them and forgot about this exchange. In early 2018, OKEX did not have a translation of the support page in languages other than Chinese, which was a huge problem. On this exchange, I also could not be verified and after 5 appeals I abandoned this case. About hitbts all probably know what kind of exchange it is))))
Poloniex already lost the spot a long time ago and is gradually turning to a shitty exchange that no one really cares about until further notice. The have refused to stay ahead of their game, things just keep deteriorating, support keeps getting bad, the platform keeps lagging and so much more.

Right now, binance seems to be the top notch for me in terms of volume, fees and security. It offers almost everything any trader would want from an exchange. So, I do not see any reason why I would want to settle for less.
1356  Economy / Economics / Re: World economy, what do you think? on: June 15, 2018, 12:30:21 PM
it defend of the performance of government.
The performance of the government does not have anything to do with international relations; it is all about what you have to offer to each other to form a mutual benefit. Everything balls down to international trades anyway and it sure does have a lot of impact on the world economy.

The part which each country now plays, depends on what you have or what the government really do have in mind to make do with in the country, to serve in the export zone or import. As of now, world economy in stable condition compared to what we had by the times of 2009 and 2010. If you notice that is the time, bitcoin was originated. I mean bitcoin may be a reason why we are having a stable economy world wide. Just a speculation based on time periods.
1357  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin and retirement - how do you see your future? on: June 15, 2018, 11:46:48 AM
I'm always optimistic about the future of bitcoin so I never get bitcoin when the price is under $ 10,000 I always buy and hold because I'm sure that someday I can retire and enjoy the richness of the bitcoin price increase.
I think you are little bit detracted from right path, actually we all must follow that buy low and sell high rule. If you are not following that rule in your investment or trading, you would be getting so big losses. So better is to live with happiness and that comes when you earn money where you have invested or traded. And that comes when you find profits through low buying and high selling.
The thing is that no one actually knows when it is low most of the time and when it is high. Although, there are sometimes, like what we saw in the bull run last year that some things are not warranted, and in that case, one may as well just use wisdom in buying which a lot of newbies did not. As long as you are not joining FOMO, I always believe anyone buying at that time, is buying at a good value, and for those who are actually looking forward to the future rather than the present, that absolutely will never be a problem for them since if it gets lower, they are still buying anyway.
1358  Economy / Economics / Re: Low BTC price is good for Bitcoins at the moment. on: June 15, 2018, 11:10:08 AM
Low Bitcoin prices are an opportunity for investors to buy Bitcoin as much as possible. and keep it for a long time until the Bitcoin price goes up, and Bitcoin is worth the sale for a big profit.
Yeah for the sake of buying, it is a pretty good one and this is the time most newbies should be getting themselves involved so as not to miss out on anything at all. It is always more like after a bull run, the market always come back way lower to give those who felt they have missed out the chance to get back in and look forward to the long term growth.

It would be funny in many years to come, when we would look back to this year and some will wish they have got in even at this value. Because this is what already happening for many people right now for the levels below $1000. For getting into below $1000, we must need to time travel to before December of 2016.
1359  Economy / Speculation / Re: No change in bitcoin price for 24 hours on: June 15, 2018, 06:07:15 AM
Today Bitcoin fell from $7500 to $6,700 and the price has not changed in the past 24 hours. It is at $6750 all the time.

Did something go very wrong with Bitcoin ?? -12% fall in one hour and then no trading till now..

Theres the change in the price, and it hurts, 1500 dollars lost in a few days, people are nuts calling 100 billion gold like asset a bubble.
Well, it is usual for it to hurt and those that feel hurt about it should simply just find a way to learn how to trade. It used to hurt me before but rather than feeling the hurt, I realized there was just one solution to it and that is to learn how to take advantage of those situations and now I take is as it comes with no sweat at all. What is important is to try to understand the market and know there is just so little we can do sometimes than just to play along with it in our own best way that will pay us in the future.

As of now, market started to show some recovery which means we may see the first bounce back after a worry-filled down fall. I am happy from yesterday as those support levels around $6200 are still working stronger to make prices to turn back. I am expecting now market to move up to $9800 levels in coming weeks.
1360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in the front page of the IMF website as the currency of the future on: June 15, 2018, 05:15:50 AM
Very strong signal, this means BTC is here to stay.

bitcoin was here to stay a very long time ago. possibly somewhere around the time when big people like Hal Finney praised it which was the first days!
this just shows that it is catching on and everyone else is also seeing it. but it is a good sign nonetheless, don't know about a strong signal though.
Yes, I am sure we have not even seen anything yet as we will get to see a lot of other big players prophesying their undying love for the space entirely. We already know anyway that this is the future and except for those who simply just want to stay in their blind aged moment saying rubbish, they will get to see eventually how dumb they have been all the while.

Till date, I still find it funny how Jamie of JP Morgan still came back to say he was sorry for calling bitcoin a fraud. Really good to see some of these things coming to play and the fact that we are all experiencing it.
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