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1561  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin's price is so volatile right now! Why should I even hold? on: April 22, 2018, 04:13:38 AM
I just checked the date of when this was posted and it happens to be on March of 2017. If this guy really withdrew his funds from Bitcoin, then man I’m sorry, cause you missed a lot. Even as of now, anyone who has money in Bitcoin shouldn’t withdraw it cause the price is really rising and I believe as many has predicted, the price will reach $15000 in April/May, and by the time May ends, we will see something much better. Just hold on guys!

I can't imagine a cryptocurency market without the volatility    
Bro  that is what make it fun and  give lot of opportunities  to make money  if you trade it well     but  since you  wrote this message in 2017  i hope we learnt our lesson  cuz you can obviously say that those who hold are the biggest winners  since  btc hit  its all time  high  few months after your message  
Even as of now the price already is at the rate of $8,300. Ethereum has reached $500 while BCH is at the rate of $1000+. I believe things are turning to be much better than it was before. Just look at it, it went from the price rate of $6000 and has reached this high. I believe it will keep on going, $15k or $20k isn’t bad anyway. It takes just patience, cause if you quit, you will miss the bigger part of it.
1562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SAVEDROID IS SCAM or NOT? on: April 21, 2018, 06:50:14 PM
Hello guys did someone in this furom invest in savedroid i just saw on there website now is down look like a hack or something. What do you think of this guys they successfully raised more than 40 million euro and it turns into [c olor=red][si ze=30pt]SCAM[/size][/color] is it true? What you think of this guys?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2578161.0
Probably this is something we may just have to wait out to see if it was really a scam or a hack as some people have been claiming. So far, I have not seen anything to tell me it is not, so I guess I may have to just place it as a scam until further notice.

I really did not invest in savedroid anyway, but since they were able to raise that much and if it ends up a scam, then I must assume the team must have done a huge job convincing investors. Let's see how it all turns out eventually though.
1563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ALTCOINS going green! on: April 21, 2018, 05:44:09 PM
We need some really good news to start a bull run.
Altcoin market volume is growing everyday and we just need a catalyst.
If bitcoin can go above 9000 we all can start a party again
Bull run should not even be what anyone should be expecting anytime now. We will still be in some sideways movement for a while before we even ever get to see that coming. However, it is the way the market has been which is unpredictable, but for a normal market that is trying to recover after a huge and long downtrend most especially for bitcoin, there would still be some moment of accumulation. For altcoins though, we all know the catalyst is usually the increase in value which usually result to FOMO.
1564  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin hit $25k in 2018? on: April 21, 2018, 04:40:11 AM
whatever happens with bitcoin I am not going to sell my Bitcoin until its hit 20k$, I believe in HODL.So I don't care about that news.But its good to know that big site talking about the price of bitcoin.
I did sold some at $8,000 but I have my cold storage prepared for the best to come. $25,000 for this year may come or may not come, the market is unpredictable and there are too many "experts" that are coming out with their predictions. What's the best now is to think positive all the time, don't look at the day prices so that there's no discouragement and focus on long term goals.  $250,000? $500,000? $1,000,000? whatever will be the outcome of these predictions, it's profitable to every coiner and we have to admit that but we have to see that first.
Yeah, the market is extremely unpredictable and the only thing I have never done is to assume for the future. Looking at the way things turned out last year, one may think it is something we can actually get to see but who knows really ? This is a market and it is obvious that things will always get to be as long as they are meant to be. $25k is not impossible, but at the same time, we have had a whole year of consolidation before. So who knows?

I am not discouraging people here. From last four months of observation, I come to a conclusion of mixed trend in this year. We may get prices near $20k levels within this year still I doubt about new ATH within this year. Sustaining is more important for bull rally which is the main thing being missed so far this year.
1565  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin going $1000 on: April 20, 2018, 07:22:30 PM
if touching the $ 1000 price I think it's tough.
and certainly a lot of people who will kill themselves with it.
but anything can happen in the world of crypto.
bitcoin $50, no way. this can happen only when a exchange fails and causes a flash crash. price won't even go below $1500.

I support you stance of fall in bitcoin prices. It’s really not possible that prices will dump up to 1000 dollars.
Bitcoins trading market do exhibit fluctuations but it does not mean that values will dump too badly.
Currently, the prices are recovering and now will surely touch sky in the closing months of this year.
Yeah, of course many investors’ usually inexperienced ones are badly baffled about what move should be made to enjoy great reward.
There are some predictions that are always going to be unreasonable. No matter how volatile this market is, we cannot just expect the market to start dropping that low in a very huge way to as low as $1000 which is even a value that is simply unrealistic.

I really want to believe we have already experienced the bottom this year, but I still also have the mind that anything can still happen, but not expecting the worst to that extent. Any investor who is panicking or imagines bitcoin hitting that low is not even worth being called an investor in the first place.
1566  Economy / Speculation / Re: Expect price to go up or price down? on: April 20, 2018, 06:44:12 PM
As long as price holds above that level and this doesn't immediately turn into a huge wick, we should be trending upwards for the next couple weeks. This could start the road to $14,000+. Cheesy
hopefully it will happen soon. to be honest, I did not expect that bitcoin prices quickly rose. maybe this will be a big rise as this continues. I hope the price can reach $ 14000 this month, or next month.

Expecting it to happen within weeks is probably unrealistic. Time is a really important factor in markets. We've been in a downtrend for the better part of 4 months.

If this is a correction to the downtrend (just a bounce) then we should expect it to take months, not weeks. If we have bottomed before a new bull trend, then we will probably have a drawn out "boring phase" where price is relatively stagnant.
Agree. To those expecting a huge increase all of a sudden; things do not usually just happen that way.
Everything is usually in phases and before we can even start considering any possibilities we should at least have some test of support before even going further. $14k is still a very long way to go from here and I expect this to not happen as well anytime soon, but let us see how the coming month would end up being like anyway since I can see how the altcoins have been rallying a bit so far.
1567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Growth may be just around the corner? on: April 20, 2018, 06:59:11 AM
Even without much pump in the price of some cryptocurrency, I have always felt that growth would soon come. I didn't wait for a particular time to stock up my favorite coins, I took the opportunity immediately the price start dipping cause we don't know where the next turn of bitcoin will take us. Whenever I see reds in the market chart, I don't  feel pessimistic but optimistic. 
Being positive is the only thing we can do, especially if we cant do transactions due to the market dips, we are just waiting to do business again.
Well, do we really have any other choice than to just stay positive ?
One thing I have always known is that the market will never remain in a downtrend forever, and the only way to enjoy this market is always to accumulate at those dips as you cannot get it better than that.

I believe growth is hugely around the corner, the alts are beginning to make some attempts gradually, bitcoin is forming some pattern of consolidation after a huge growth within few hours, and with that, we may actually start seeing some good movement soon.
1568  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Guys, just hold.. We can agree on a few things. on: April 20, 2018, 04:56:24 AM
I also think so. If you hold for the future then your success rate would be closer to you. So Don't be afraid of falling the price anymore. It's a market mechanism. So I agree with this thread regarding investment. just hold your coin for the future purpose. Always set your goal for the long-term investment.
The reason why a lot of new investors find it hard to hold is because they brought in the wrong mindset. They feel they are here to get rich quickly without considering that those who have been holding earlier have waited years and still counting and believing in the future. If they did not, they apparently will not be here by now and this was even the time when the future was not even certain coupled with a lot of fear, not now when things are even getting better.

holding in crypto is a part of success. For this unstable market and no law from any country can't control crypto, so holding is the best way to get big profit.
Holding against unstable market ? Seems a new perspective. Even bitcoin market is stable, I will prefer to continue my holding. Because in long run only I will be able to make big profits compared to active trading.
1569  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MARKET NOW on: April 20, 2018, 04:18:26 AM
Market is in consolidation and start to recover before it will goes up again. If the buying power can break $12k we probably will see another price for btc above $20k. And if btc can break $20k which is last all time high. It will create another fome and maybe btc can touch $50k
We have not yet even gotten into consolidation yet or have an affirmation of that and as far as I can see now, we have broken out of the downtrend and that gives hope, but the only thing that would make us see a good movement back up now is to get test that down trend and see how we respond to it from there and personally that is what I am after, not just to start assuming anything because we recently saw a pump.
1570  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trader Future life? on: April 19, 2018, 05:07:44 PM
How is trader life in the future?A trader is the country's wealth?
Traders are silent millionaire for me. Maybe, if you are starting to trade, expect that you will not earn a lot. But I think if a trader will continue his activity in the future, there is a chance that he will become a millionaire. I love being a trader because I think I can use my expertise in trading.
This is obvious and we often hears this that trading will lead you to millionaire status just because this thing has that nerve which takes up the people and lift them as per their hard work. But as I said, hard work, best equipment for uplifting. Nobody can become successful if they don’t work hard. We have to keep this in mind and only then big profits can turn us from traders to millionaire.
Trading most especially is a huge load of work and that depends on your style of trading as well. All the above, every success will always come with a story and there is no one who is successful today that has not really been in that level of working hard and smart at the same time.

Trading to me is more of being smart even though it requires a lot of effort and dedication, but if you do it well, you will always get the best result and as long as the market is secured, then you have a guarantee to keep the ball rolling.
1571  Economy / Speculation / Re: Deadline of tax payment in America is coming. Will the bull market appear again? on: April 19, 2018, 04:30:19 PM
when is it??

The deadline is already past. It was yesterday (April 17th).

In fact, to comfortably have covered payments by yesterday, you'd have to have sold 1+ weeks ago. That lines up pretty well with that bottom in the low $6,000s. Quite a coincidence. Smiley
Hmm. So we have to assume that since this is over, we may actually start seeing some good response in the market pretty soon. It may be just be a coincidence because I cannot expect how a single country may actually have that much of an impact on the value of cryptocurrency at large. It is understandable though, since a single man anyway can dump on the market and still affects it hugely. I guess this is the period we normally see some switch in trend after some long downtrend anyway. Let's hope the positive vibe will start getting back into the market.
1572  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will it happen again? on: April 19, 2018, 06:47:18 AM
if you look at the price development chart of the last two years, the beginning of the year always starts with a weakening price as if bitcoin will be destroyed, what I question is whether the pattern will return and continue to recur in the current year and the next few years?
There's a possibility that bitcoin price will go up high by the end of the year, just like what happened last year, but don't expect the price of the last ATH's last year because I think it is too far from possibility. Yes, we can still consider it but expecting too much can hurt you.
Everything is always going to be under probability. Yeah, we can switch back to an uptrend before the end of the year, but the truth is how far we are going to go is one thing only time can tell. We have had a huge bear year at the starting of the year and the after effect is not something we should just expect some sudden recovery in price.

Nevertheless, we are in a market where surprises can happen but I personally would not be expecting so much, but whatever comes is good enough for me either bull or bear scenario.
1573  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should bitcoin rise and fall? on: April 19, 2018, 05:50:32 AM
The nature of the currency cryptocurrencies is indeed up and down, and by that nature we can take all opportunities between rising and declining prices.
I want to believe we are always expecting too much from bitcoin or cryptocurrency world at large in just a very short time. Also, those who are comparing it to the dollar should understand that even in the foreign exchange market, CNY, JPY, GBP, and so on all have fluctuations and you cannot even expect a currency to be stable just as some of you are painting it. There is volatility in every market just that it differs from each other. However, there is a huge difference between a decentralized and centralized market.
1574  Economy / Economics / Re: The HODL strategy is not actual on: April 18, 2018, 04:54:06 PM
You cannot actually blame people from losing faith on bitcoins after the losses they have gotten from the great correction this year. I think that there are probably quite a good number of people that have lost capitals ranging from hundreds to hundreds of thousands. And it isn't just with bitcoins alone but also with other altcoins as well. Too bad for them that they threw away the chance to get back what they lost and the potential profits that they could've gotten if they panic sold. oh well,..
f they had the faith initially and they were not looking at the short term benefit but the long term, then they will end up not losing faith. The only set of people losing faith right now are those who are greedy and are expecting the short term benefit from bitcoin and looking at how they would just get rich overnight and this was what made the whole FOMO to increase mightily last year. HODL is not bad if you can handle yourself in the market as a trader, but whichever way as long as you are not doing anything emotionally, whatever you do is right.
1575  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which is the most effective method for Coin Trading? on: April 18, 2018, 05:24:08 AM
For me the  best thing and usualy most effective method of trading is hodling and do for a long term rading not less than 6 months i consider it as a long term trade already. The best thing in long term trading is you can watch and patiently wait for a good timing to sell your coins and at the same time you also helping the company to encrease the price buy hodling it in your wallet for long term.
Personally it depends on the market for me. The most effective method is the one that flows with your pattern actually. I trade bitcoin fluctuations in the short term and I trade altcoins for long term and the only time I tend to trade altcoins during an uptrend is if I get to see a huge break out which most of the time, I am always very careful considering how volatile the market can be for a market that is already overbought.

Although, best for me is to always look for oversold market, buy back when I see some divergence, accumulate and hold for long term for the altcoins. Because holding for longer period eliminates lots of practical difficulties of trading. Without stress I am able to make decent money.
1576  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Looking for a better exchange: Bittrex and Poloniex? on: April 17, 2018, 06:02:15 PM
Avoid Poloniex until they fix their withdrawal glitches, and hire more people after Circle's acquisition is established.

I have already read many complaints about withdrawals not going through and that their customer support takes weeks to resolve those issues because they are short on workers.
It seems the problem with poloniex just keeps getting huge each and every day with a lot of the users complaining.
I feel we are still not getting it though as most of the exchanges are still trying hard to be able to compete in the real world and most especially in the area of support, I have not really seen an exchange that gives me that chill except for those with lower user base though. Bittrex to me is still a lot better than poloniex even bittrex allowed me to withdraw after I have submitted couple of my identification documents.
1577  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What makes a successful trader, not a gambler? on: April 17, 2018, 12:50:26 PM
yes you are right many ways to be successful from playing trading and most importantly I think you should be able to control your emotional state and can be patient because if you can not wait it seems difficult to be able to get a profit.
Apparently, what makes you a gambler even when you think you are trading is when you do not have any strategy and you will easy be emotional whether you like it or not. Not being emotional or trying to stay strong still does not change anything if you do not have knowledge about trading or you do not know how to play your cards right and safely.

Once you have knowledge, there is this confidence that you have and you will see yourself not gambling your way through trading.
1578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Can blockchain change financial industry? on: April 17, 2018, 04:26:12 AM
It is only after such scams get unearthed that people realize the importance of blockchain technology. I have a strong feeling that sooner or later more countries are going to adopt this technology and we will see a revolution in the financial industry.
This is one thing that we are going to be experiencing sooner anyway and we are gradually seeing how some banks in the developed world already trying to see how they can integrate the idea of blockchain technology into the finance sector. It would be changing a whole lot of things and I am sure it would even get better globally as time goes on. This is the new world and this is evolution of money, and as long as there is an evolution, changes are definite and most especially for the better.

Lots of improvements for financial industry could be expect due to adoption of blockchain technology in coming days in terms of preventing scams and more secured way of banking to common people. Definitely blockchain technology may take our current life style into new dimension buts many governments and central banks are not taking no initial steps so far.
1579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Patience is the key on: April 16, 2018, 08:36:13 AM
patience is the key we all know about but you also need some element of luck in most cases because not every coin can favour you in profit just like that. You can sometimes hold dip but dipper it goes.
Yeah, there is no way you can actually get the best of the market at all if you do not have any patience. Looking at how most of the altcoins as well as bitcoin has performed in the past, it simply shows that if you are in a rush to get rich quickly, a time will come when you will look back and see the coin you held as really increased so much in value which you have totally missed out on.

I held verge for a long time since inception which I got for just few dollars and now, anyone who knows the extent to which verge increased over the years, will know the rest of the story.
1580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When do you know its time to Stop? on: April 16, 2018, 03:20:17 AM
When I decide to put my friends and family before betting on a game, that's when it may be time to call it quits
It's easy to say that you can put them before you bet but when you're hands start to become itchy to bet and you are confident with your bet, you're eventually forget that condition. There's nothing wrong if you are starting to bet whether there's a reason, you just have to control and be responsible with your acts when you gamble. But this can be also an effective call to those gamblers that can't control themselves, you have to realize that you have family that's waiting for your change.
Emotional control becomes a matter of great concern, without which we will only enter into something much worse. Though from the beginning we all have been warned that gambling game is very bad impact on our lives. Playing gambling may indeed be needed to get entertainment, but if we can not control then we can get into the very bad thing that is addiction. For me when someone is already getting a very strong addiction effect it will be hard to stop playing gambling, it will slowly destroy our lives all and it will be an unforgettable remorse.

So do not ever try to take risks and I will still think that in fact a gambler will be hard to stop to play gambling.
It's true that things are becoming worse when you don't have emotional control. Base on my experience, when I'm on losing streak, there's only one thing that keeps on coming to my mind and that is to win. I never focused and tried to fix myself by controlling that emotion on my mind. Gambling is risky, we may win some and lose some but when it comes of becoming severe we have to admit that we are already losing, addicted and there's a need to stop, acceptance is also part of it.
Things will always get worst without emotional control and there is just no two ways about it. The reason why a lot of people are in the wrong side of gambling today is just because they have fixated their mind to that idea of gambling to win or to make money and the last time I recalled, the casino owners are there for business and not to dash out money in which they win most of the time. As long as anyone can keep this at the back of their mind, they will always know when they have given out enough to the casino owners.
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