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2321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 12, 2014, 11:59:58 PM
I just saw a dead link.

It concernes the android wallet that is mentioned in the first post of this thread:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hashengineering.quarkcoin.wallet

if you follow this link, it will lead to the google play and there in the infos it will show a github link that is dead:
https://github.com/HashEngineering/Quark-wallet

Can someone fix that?

Am not gonna install a wallet without inspecting code first. Thanks.
2322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MZC] MazaCoin *National Currency of the Traditional Lakota Nation* | NEW THREAD on: August 12, 2014, 10:28:40 PM
New GIF:



Success will follow if we just keep on persisting. It's THAT simple.

As always donations are welcome: https://mazacha.in/address/MXCtrUorKAy6HkBrHdGsKuKYsLf81Ta5fq

2323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 12, 2014, 08:45:35 PM
Thanks maok.

I have another question regarding mining.
So at the moment I am setting up a few raspberry pi with USB antminers... to support all the sha-256 coins I own.

Very cheap, very efficient.

So, I was thinking... what's the most basic cheap and efficient method to mine quark these days?
And I am not talking about profitability. I don't care if I don't mine much quark.
I just want to help quark hashrate with as little energy and setup costs as possible.

I am just looking for the minimum price to recieve maximum efficiency, much like the raspberry ANTminer setup (which cost me about 50 $ total to setup)

I am talking about helping the networks hashrate (and therefor securing my qrk holdings).
If everybody who owns QRK would also mine QRK a tiny little, then we would have a much better hashrate.



2324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 12, 2014, 07:45:40 PM
I have a question about the quark brand:

http://www.qrk.cc/quarkbrand/

The font is ubuntu, right?
Or what is the exact name of this font we are using?
2325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZET] Zetacoin - SHA256 coin - Quick confirmations - 0.9.2.1 on: August 12, 2014, 05:57:40 PM
best time to buy.
2326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 08:18:30 PM
I have been a QRK holder for over 1 year (nearly the very beginning). It has excellent functionality, the specific hash stumbled upon a great leap forward at the time. However, I am a general investor in altcoins, and have been an early adopter in 80 coins. There is plenty of choice, and constant improvements in the new coins. I intend to keep a holding of every coin that I ever invest in, either win or bust.(and have so far done so, with few coins succeeding, but an overall decent profit)

The key for any coin is the strength of the ongoing development team, which has to respond to changes and new ideas. Also the size of the adoptive community which follows the development.

There are many coins which now have that strength, and even they will struggle in the evolutionary battle. I would not write QRK off, but have to say that the current price simply reflects it's prospects more fairly now.


We are in the anon coin phase right now.
Is this the next evolutionary step?

Not necessarily, since anonymity is desired by some, but not seen as necessary by others.
Anonymity is not a trait that makes your coin automatically more desirable or valuable. Not necessarily, there is no correlation, and I say that as a fan of DarkCoin (which wants to become eCash)

There is the possibility that what we see now is an evolutionairy explosion giving birth to many different ideas, that DON'T NEED TO COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER, since everybody can have his niche... much like single cell life gave rise to all kinds of multi cell lifeforms, like plants, animals, insects, fungi, etc...
Is a plant "better" than an animal? This question doesn't even make sense.
Sure, animals eat plants, but there is always a surplus of 1000 times more plant mass than animal mass on this planet. So this is clearly a symbiosis.

Quarkcoin must grow and find its niche....
it must NOT strive to become the King of the World or something like that... because neither is this necessary for success, nor is this even desirable... because the king is attacked constantly by everybody.

Coins that win are coins that don't fight with other coins, but are instead concentrating on creating value and adoption.
2327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 07:45:18 PM

I agree with you we need more real work merchants, however all coins are aiming for this so why should they choose qrk?

We need developers, project managers, marketing, yes they need funding or incentives. Other coins have the funding to provide the incentive, qrk does not.

...
Bitcoin is the first one and pretty much ALL altcoins offer some form of improvement over bitcoin.
...
If you take a look at all coins out there, then almost all coins are just "get rich quick" with no advantages over bitcoin itself

I should have rephrased that.... with no real disadvantages over bitcoin.
What makes bitcoin good for money, is what makes those altcoins ALSO good for money.
2328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 07:15:41 PM

I agree with you we need more real work merchants, however all coins are aiming for this so why should they choose qrk?

We need developers, project managers, marketing, yes they need funding or incentives. Other coins have the funding to provide the incentive, qrk does not.


Well, why do they use bitcoin now?

Bitcoin is the first one and pretty much ALL altcoins offer some form of improvement over bitcoin.
(sure, they don't have bitcoins hashrate and adoption rate, but those are not part of the code anyway).

So I still think that nearly every altcoin could some day become really big, for whatever reason.

It's an evolution... it first sounds like survival of the fittest.

But that doesn't mean that only the fittest survives.

Man, if we could get Quark to just 1$ and have it stay there for a prolongued period of time.... this alone would make me jump up and down in joy.
(I hope that until then I own more quark than the measly 20k I have now, lol)

Quark could become a niche coin and still be at 1$ or more.
That's the beauty of the internet and a planet filled with 7 billion people.
Quark probably needs only 10k constant users and a 100 potent merchants to reach 1$.
Should be managable, don't you think?

We need perspective. And we must refrain from feeling like losers all the time.
This is not a game where one winner takes all.
This is as I said: the internet and a planet filled with 7 billion people.
That's the perfect paradise for niche players. And if bitcoin can go to 1000$, why shouldn't quark go to 1$ atleast.

I want to prove that I can help quark, so stay tuned.

BTW...
We can't know for sure who here wants to see qrk do well and who wants to see it sink and get crushed by other coins. For all i know you have zero qrk and are trolling. We need to make sure people here are real qrk supporters.

I posted my QRK address below every GIF you saw in the last 10 pages.
Every QRK anybody donates to me will only be sold at much higher prices (preferably 1$ +)
And you can keep track of that.
2329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 06:58:43 PM
+1 Crypto currencies are very immature, even Bitcoin, compared to biggest players. The prohibitive measures could be used in a local centralized areas like small national currencies. If you want global adoption you need to leave the free market decide the price, thats why I said every quarker should participate on the exchanges so that we better discover the true price and provide more liquidity(only rule buy low sell high)

Awesome summary of what every quarker should do, and what quark is all about.
2330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 06:55:40 PM
I am working on something big (software development thru QRK funding), but contrary to the coin and price manipulation you advocate, my project consists of real world economy to make quark successful, NOT trying to manipulate the coin into success.
more details please ?

I already told too much, lol.
I don't want to be a talker.

Some facts about me: I have been a selfemployed programmer for the last 10 years, and I plan to offer my work for quark (atleast parttime), in a unique collaborative way.

Please be patient for a few weeks. (damn, another promise)
2331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 06:51:37 PM
companion coin, superblocks... quarkfx proposal of proof of burn or something like that.

Many conflicting solutions proposed for a problem that I resist to even accept is real.

There is no problem: quark is just in a phase of low liquidity, like all altcoins.

That's just the nature of the quark economy (which at the moment mainly exists on exchanges between traders instead of real world merchants)

Yes we need to change that. But not by manipulating the coin- or coinsupply itself.
2332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 06:36:40 PM
This is not a companion coin.

I asked someone to explain me in one sentence, and that's what they told me. There are many conflicting arguments/solutions/problems in this thread at the moment.

Please, can you give me a short summary about what your document consist of.
Three short sentences that outline the nature of your solution. (forget about the problem for now)
Make it so that I feel like reading your document afterwards.

Sorry for not freakin out. It's just that I heard this too many times (e.g. in one video with Kolin and Bill Still) and I don't trust in magical promises. If you have something to present, present it. Everybody can announce the next big thing. If you can't show anything its better to remain silent until you can. I would be gladly proven wrong on this case, but I don't believe it.

Well, isn't your document an announcement of the next big thing?
It's always so easy to write drafts and proposals instead of doing some real actual work, isn't it?

My project is in the concept phase. Such things take a long time to be created.
And rest assured I will post about it when it's more or less finished. And only then.
You will not see any drafts, or documents that I will ask you to "evaluate"...
You will see real world software products denominated in Quark, plain in your face.
Because:


And that's also the reason why I keep creating GIFs here... so that I remind myself to CONSTANTLY CREATE, and NOT just TALK.

2333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 06:26:16 PM
Your reason for "not being sympathetic to the whole premise"?

Let's start getting specific. Explain in detail exactly how this could be negative for qrk.  It seems like it could with a bit of tweaking solve a lot of qrks current issues.

QRK is regarded as a dying/dead project by most of the board.

Not by me, who in his right mind would call a 1 year old project dead... and then again, only pointing to a low price as evidence of death?
Well, obviously it's someone who thought this is a get rich quick scheme but who is disappointed because qrk growth will take longer than expected.


Also how much qrk do each of you own.

To enter into discussions people should really have a reasonable steak in the coin. Who knows if half these people simply making comments even have any qrk. Some have probably sold out and want the prices driven lower to buy back in or else could be from other coin communities. We really need to establish who is really motivated to see qrk move up from here.

This all sounds so bizarre to me.... your thoughts reveal your true intentions.
You make it sound like quark has now become the coin of the selected few investors club... and ONLY they should be allowed to have a voice, etc...

I remember the first weeks and months of quark, when it was praised as the little guys coin.
Everybody can participate and mine this coin, etc... that was the credo back then.

Not anymore?

I VERY much like the idea of taxing those that don't stake the coin.

?
What are you, a government?
What's with all that constant "tax talk" ?

Also these players are killing a crypto with their pump and dumps. It will give the coin a bad reputation where people will say it's another pump and dump, this coin is limiting the ability of these guys to ruin a coin with their scheme and it's actually the first that i've seen which has come up with a model to do this and instead aims for a steady rise with less hardcore dumping. This give the coin much more credibility imo.

If you want to dump all your coins whenever you want there are enough cryptos and i think with all these pump and dump schemes there should be space for new models like these who is adapted to these schemes.

Pump and Dump. Most misused words of the last years.
Is bitcoin a pump and dump? I wouldn't call it that, but Mainstream Media still does so to this day.
How can they do that? Well, because to the outsiders who don't understand bitcoin, bitcoin really looks like a pump and dump scheme.
And Mainstream Media tries to influence those uninitiated outsiders.

Was bitcoin pumped and dumped before? Yes, absolutely. Is it still being pumped and dumped? YES!
Is this a problem? No, because Bitcoin has now become a real world economy, meaning it's not just an exchange vehicle, it's not just a financial tool anymore. It's used in the real economy, by real people, doing real trading.
All those people who REALLY USE bitcoin in their lifes for trading, and working, and buying/selling stuff... they offset any pump and dump scheme, because they create an immense liquidity of about 10 million $ a day, which gives pumpers/dumpers a really hard time. That's fantastic.

Now what about quark?
Obviously quark is still in the phase where very low liquidity allows for drastic price moves that causes all kinds of weird ups and downs in price, that all look like pump and dump.
(someone buying even just 5-10 BTC of QRK in a few minutes, will make the price spike probably 300%)
But these are NOT pump and dumpers. Not as in the definition of a scam.

That's just simple economics: Low liquidity causes higher price fluctuation.

This even is applicable to world currencies like the USD or EUR. Watch forex EUR/USD and you will see that during holidays (when fewer people trade) the price fluctuation will be higher!
You have to let this sink in for a minute, that this even happens (to a small degree) in trillion dollar volume markets like EUR/USD.

People who understand just a little bit about economics and exchanges, UNDERSTAND that low liquidity coins (basically all altcoins) can be easily price manipulated since that's the nature of low liquidity.
Only people who don't understand this concept, blame this on SCAM ARTISTS or whales who deliberately are out to kill a coin...

And it's those people (who call SCAM for the wrong reasons) who want to introduce all kinds of prohibiting measures to prevent something that is WITHIN THE NATURE OF EVERY CURRENCY THAT EXISTS... so that they can safely skip over this low liquidity phase with little damage (but killing the coins nature in the process).

Those people are only thinking about their own well being, instead of understanding that THAT IS THE NATURE OF THIS ILLIQUID PHASE!

All I am saying is: You all should better start enjoying this illiquid phase and enjoy the risks (and chances) it offers.
Trying to suppress this phase by implementing prohibiting measures based on GREED and wealth protection goes against EVERYTHING I BELIEVE when it comes to cryptocurrencies and free market.
Therefor I am not going to give that anymore attention or appreciation.

It's like you guys are trying to persuade me to participate in a religion, when I am a free market atheist.
No matter WHAT you have to say about your religion, and how eloquent your documents and articles are... as long as its based on superstition and irrationality I am going to oppose it.
2334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 05:37:09 PM
Noone forces you into agreeing with the premise and if the concept is carried out then still noone forces you to burn tokens. This is not a fork proposal. Whoever wants to participate participates, whoever prefers to stay stays. However, if you complain about the concept you should ar least know what it is about, otherwise it makes your whole point look quite ridiculous.  

Ok, if you can guarantee that Quark Fork is not necessary for this, then I really don't care what you do, since it is outside of quark sphere.
Good, if no one is forced directly to burn tokens, then go ahead.

It's you who makes the extraordinairy claim that this maneuver (companion coin?) is going to help quarks price, so it's you who have to provide extraordinairy proof for that.

Extraordinairy claims require extraordinairy evidence.
It's not my job to prove to you that you are wrong.
It's your job to prove to me that you are right.

Btw. Georgem what serious business have YOU built for Quark? Instead of asking others to not waste their time with utter nonsense you should maybe do something for Quark on your own. Or have I overseen your rich contributions? Haven't seen any.

I am working on something big (software development thru QRK funding), but contrary to the coin and price manipulation you advocate, my project consists of real world economy to make quark successful, NOT trying to manipulate the coin into success.

In the meantime, enjoy my GIFs (that I create to help evolve and develop quarks brand)
2335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 07:30:49 AM
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-suspected-be-nsa-cia-project-1460439

sucks all this infighting and its a huge international joke the whole thing, its just been a big social experiment.

we'll pack it up soon and put everyone on camps !

it was just for a laugh

: D
nice but when it comes to satire no one beats The Onion!

True, you know it is called "The Onion" since it's meant to make you laugh (or cry) tears?  Grin
2336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 06:55:04 AM
It's interesting to see how people cry that they are against and ask question that proof that they actually haven't read the document Smiley

I read the reddit, and glanced over the document.

I am not sympathetic to the whole premise, so I am probably not going to read the document in all detail when I am not even agreeing with the premise (the description of the "supposed" problem).
Therefor any proposed "solutions" don't really make sense to me.


2337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 04:30:19 AM

Second animation is like hypnotizing by heartbeats Smiley Sound is missing.

Don't force me to buy Quarks.



I'll hypnotize everybody with my GIFs to buy more quarks.
Brain programming thru the visual cortex.
2338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 03:38:06 AM

You can make new animations too Smiley



Ofcourse, I did 2 animations the last 24 hours... I will do more tomorrow... very late where I am. (4 o'clock in the morning...)

How did you like the 2 animations I did today?



AGAINST!  IN FAVOR OF!



AGAINST!  IN FAVOR OF!

If you like this GIF, please donate any amount of QRK you like and I will create more:
http://qrk.blockr.io/address/info/QSWH2gfjBhvKiasJXxudHLR2JDD8Y1zTPw
2339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 03:34:25 AM
 Smiley

I like this

AGAINST!

I will use it whenever someone talks about the need to adjust quark protocol at this point of time.

So buy more quark if you have the bread.

IN FAVOR OF!

(that's the opposite  Grin )
2340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | cPoW | PC mining | Stability | Hashcows - QRK Payouts on: August 11, 2014, 03:06:11 AM

Yes, we agree.

Earlier i wrote: this coin is searching for the the minimum of the bottom of the double bottom. Smiley I know you know what that means. Smiley


Yes, although technical analysis tends to not work so well anymore when liquidity is very low.
But I agree, a bottom will be found, probably somewhere where we had a bottom before.
(in Hindsight it will probably look like a double bottom)


the voice of sanity, (will be subsequently ignored)

To be fair Georgem, it is their job , they failed Uni and have huge debts, so now they troll the internet and get thrown a trinket from their masters every now an again, (kind of like the winged monkeys Vermin Supreme talked of) (forget the phoney vote for the pony)

patience is not a virtue when your house is on fire.

Absolutely.
We must at all costs prevent people from adjusting the codebase of Quark so it fullfills the needs and wants of some investors!
(This is the only prevention I accept: the prevention to keep people from implementing preventions (e.g. so that people can't dump coins anymore), lol)

The quark money is not here to please anybody, it is a means to make trading fair and just. NOT help investors keep their wealth.

If you want to help investors keep their wealth, help quarks adaption.
Do what bitcoin has done.
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