So, a new chapter in darkcoin history starts. I salute you, darkcoin community.
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Sorry, I am so excited about open source, I get all cocky. Also, I vote for #1
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Henry David Thoreau?
Thought we were limiting ourselves to people who are alive (so, not sure about your left nut, haaaaaaaaaaaa, just kidding....). Anyway, we should "get a life"... or "get some darkcoins".... looking forward to xpool payment and open source today. Also:
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Hoping it'll be Neil Armstrong. I'd say put people on your list who are famous tax protestors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_protester_history_in_the_United_StatesA tax protester is a person who denies that he or she owes a tax based on the belief that the constitution, statutes, or regulations do not empower the government to impose, assess or collect the tax. My favourites: - Larken Rose
- Wesley Snipes
- Irwin Schiff (father of Peter Schiff)
Those are people who are not afraid to go to prison (!) for their conviction.
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Just an unofficial status check... by reply or PM whichever you prefer, how many Darkfans do we have who are good enough writers of a non-English language that they could do a high quality translation of a short semi-technical text such as a press release?
I can make translations to german on a pretty professional level.
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Any trademarks, patents, special licenses in crypto are going to be bad because one of the strengths of crypto is it's 'openness' meaning its free to do whatever you want without restriction and everything is transparent.
I always thought the closed sourcing of drk was holding it back, now hopefully it will start to get more appreciation and trust and can start to grow as a serious currency IRL.
I agree wholeheartedly. The word "dark" (as in "dark market" or "black market") comes from the government declaring something illegal (your privacy, your freedom), and in such an environement we are forced to operate in "darkness" to counteract the ill effects that come from government insanity. If we now start using government legislation to regulate darkcoin (licensing, patents, etc...) we are in fact turning into "light" coin, as in being "government approved". We wouldn't want that!!!
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If you lay down with dogs (lawyers), you will wake up with fleas. The good thing about darkcoin is that it came into existence without asking anyone for permission. If we now turn this around and expect everyone who wants to use darkcoin (in any way they like) to ask for permission first, then we break about all principles we started with. If the darkcoin foundation wants to register its corporate identity, sure why not. But the darkcoin protocol HAS to stay absolutely open source and free, or else this will be the biggest obstacle for further adoption. I am sure evan duffield absolutely agrees with all of this.
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Open source mustn't necessarily mean that its going to be published under a GPL or CC license. The code could be open sourced, but with a proprietary license, limiting the rightful use to real developments based on the concept. Why not...?
I don't know if this can even work, since large parts of darkcoin are based on bitcoin which is completely open source AND free. So you can't take an open source base, change it a little bit and add new stuff and then say, from now on it's proprietary. (I could be wrong though) Also, we are talking about the new kind of "principled money" here. So to make this ethical money proprietary would go against all principles that satoshi tried to implement with bitcoin. (Yes, in my eyes all cryptocurrencies are ethical, since they directly compete with devilish concepts like fiat debt money) It would be FED all over again, if evan duffield were to become the proprietary owner of darkcoin. If this were to happen, I would sell all my DRK in an instant.
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Fair point. Would still do the lazy instant static interim solution and then hope someone will work on the sorted list with market volumes I understand, and I agree with you that this is important. Allcoin, the first exchange in the list, has a volume of ZERO, so it is completely ridiculous to list it as first exchange, lol. https://www.allcoin.com/api1/pair/drk_btcWait, even the second exchange has a volume of zero. This list is seriously messed up and should be fixed immediately. So I will keep updating my original post with all the API links I figure out, and what variable has to be read, maybe this will make the job easier for the darkcoin.io webmaster. Then he can't really have any excuses anymore why he won't implement this...
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It is a good idea to list the exchanges on darkcoin.io, HOWEVER: http://www.darkcoin.io/using-darkcoin/buy-darkcoin/exchanges/It is nonsense sorting the exchanges alphabetically. Top 2 places have to be reserved for Mintpal and Cryptsy as this is where 80% of the coin is traded. Possibly Bitfinex or some other exchange based on total value of the latest trade - http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/darkcoin/#marketsThere is no reason to list exchanges that have 0 trade in weeks - it just upsets the prospective investors. On the other hand, if one goes to let's say Mintpal and sees that DRK is no. 1 or 2 and the market is liquid, they are much more likely to invest! Agreed. The exchanges should be sorted based on volume (that means a script should read out the APIs of all mentioned exchanges regularly, e.g. once per day). Like coinmarketcap does on their darkcoin overwiew site.... (hm, coinmarketcap is down for me ATM) Yes - dynamic sorting would be ideal and we should go for it. However if that is too time consuming for the moment, we should just manually move mintpal & cryptsy above and separate these from the rest of the exchanges as these have been top 2 exchanges for months now. That would literally take 5 minutes of work for everyone who has an FTP access to the website Doesn't take much longer to make the API calls with PHP, then process the data and use it to sort the table. Mintpal: https://api.mintpal.com/v1/market/stats/DRK/BTCgives back a JSON object and you simply have to read out the 24hvol variable. It gives you back the volume in BTC. Cryptsy: http://pubapi.cryptsy.com/api.php?method=singlemarketdata&marketid=155DRK Market is nr.155 Read the variable "volume". It's in amount of DRK, so you have to multiply it with the variable "lasttradeprice" to get the volume in BTC. Bittrex: https://bittrex.com/api/v1.1/public/getmarketsummary?market=btc-drkJSON Variable "BaseVolume" for volume in BTC. Bter: http://data.bter.com/api/1/ticker/drk_btcVariable "vol_btc" Allcoin: https://www.allcoin.com/api1/pair/drk_btcRead out variable "volume_24h_BTC" etc for the rest of the exchanges.
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It is a good idea to list the exchanges on darkcoin.io, HOWEVER: http://www.darkcoin.io/using-darkcoin/buy-darkcoin/exchanges/It is nonsense sorting the exchanges alphabetically. Top 2 places have to be reserved for Mintpal and Cryptsy as this is where 80% of the coin is traded. Possibly Bitfinex or some other exchange based on total value of the latest trade - http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/darkcoin/#marketsThere is no reason to list exchanges that have 0 trade in weeks - it just upsets the prospective investors. On the other hand, if one goes to let's say Mintpal and sees that DRK is no. 1 or 2 and the market is liquid, they are much more likely to invest! Agreed. The exchanges should be sorted based on volume (that means a script should read out the APIs of all mentioned exchanges regularly, e.g. once per day). Like coinmarketcap does on their darkcoin overwiew site.... (hm, coinmarketcap is down for me ATM)
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MintPal They down for maintenance or something? Yeah, what's with mintpal, they are definitely down. Good thing I get most of my DRK thru mining, not thru exchanges.
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It's Friday, I'm bored at work and my boss is out sick. Ladies... BUMP ... and again here's the medicine for all the damaged eyes:
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I'm starting to like this Kristov Atlas guy. Pity he failed to mention Darkcoin in any of that though, despite Darkcoin completely solving the Bitcoin problems he was mentioning. Centralised-browser-plugin-vapourware Dark Wallet got airtime instead... Maybe he's afraid that openly acknowledging DRK's superiority will get him cast out of the BTC zealots club? This speech was back in June. Damn, you are right,... so why did it pop up today in my youtube feed... I hate it when they do that... Sorry everybody.
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I'm starting to like this Kristov Atlas guy. Pity he failed to mention Darkcoin in any of that though, despite Darkcoin completely solving the Bitcoin problems he was mentioning. Centralised-browser-plugin-vapourware Dark Wallet got airtime instead... Maybe he's afraid that openly acknowledging DRK's superiority will get him cast out of the BTC zealots club? You can't blame him for not exploiting every opportunity he gets to promote darkcoin, I think he has a more general philosophical agenda. It's positive enough for darkcoin that Kristov Atlas challenges the negativity associated with words like "dark" and "darkness". I like that.
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Jane: Bitcoin is great, easy and so secure? Bob: Hmmmm... ...
Awesome dialog there... someone should make this into a cartoon...
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if an exchange allows a trader to trade with 0% fee, and gives him a fast access API, then even with only 1000$ in coins, such a trader could ping pong sell/buy between his two accounts and create millions of volume every day.
I even think they restrain themselves, because couldn't they even easily fake volumes in the billions? But than it would be crystal clear theater.
So it's all a make believe game at this point, until some form of decentralized exchange revolutionizes trading.
But at this point no one can distinct between real volume and fake volume.
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This is an entrenched dynamic - wishful thinking isn't going to change it.
I've got some wishful thinking for you:
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