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2321  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $500 — Butterflylabs, is it a scam? on: November 13, 2011, 05:03:36 PM
Confirming that I have received the additional 13.5 BTC from (presumably) Goat.

So that's 20 to 10 bet for whom and they are under the same conditions as the first bet, yes?  

Yep same bet, only different odds. 2-1. Should I win, keep 10% for your trouble.
2322  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: running more then 6 GPU's on: November 13, 2011, 04:59:43 PM
catfish, I  think you are looking in the wrong places, unless you confused 5970 with 5870. I live only a (well, not so) short swim away from the UK, just across the channel, and 5870s are going really cheap here. With some luck you can buy them  second hand for ~120-130 euro, often still covered by warranty.  Look in the forums of large gaming communities or whatever your local equivalent of craig's list. And just dont offer the asking price, offer 120 euro (whatever that is in pounds) and you might be surprised how many sell. If you really meant 5870s, if you want I can try and find and buy some here and send them over if it turns out they are cheaper here. Shipping is like 18 euro.

I do agree that 5850s are also great choices though. Per "pound" they are usually better deal than 5870. Per watt it will be damn close I think. But perhaps the best thing about them is that they are substantially easier to keep cool. I only have 1 5870 (reference), but damn, it was a hot card until I put a massive overkill cooler on it. Dont know if they are all like that, but if they are, Id rather stick with 5850s
2323  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [70 GH/s PPLNS] BitMinter.com *** Merged Mining! *** on: November 13, 2011, 04:26:14 PM
really?  Did you get any errors or warning compiling?
Can you post the full output? Also, if you are using "-c configfile" perhaps try without, no idea if the syntax of that file changed.
2324  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 4 pin molex to 6 pin pci-e connector. Word of warning on: November 13, 2011, 04:22:56 PM
I dont remember where I got that cable from. It was never used, still in plastic wrapping. I think it came with an old nvidia card (8800gt or so? or perhaps a card that draws only ~75W ).

Anyway, just wanted to show you shouldnt use them for a reason Smiley. I was surprised though, you'd think there is some safety margin on those specs, and 60W to 75W isnt that much a difference.  From now on Ill see those 8 pin PCI-E connectors as a selling point.
2325  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / 4 pin molex to 6 pin pci-e connector. Word of warning on: November 13, 2011, 04:14:37 PM
I was running short on 4 pin molex plugs on my PSU. Going through my box of cables I came across a single 4 pin molex to 6 pin PCI-E connector. Just what I needed to get around my shortage. So I did some math

4 pin Molex  is rated for 60W, compared to 75W for PCI-E.
Motherboards supply up 75W.
One PCI-E connector is a proper one, 75W
One 4 pin to 6 pin: 60W

75+75+60=210W. SHould be plenty for a 5850, even with a decent overclock no?

Nope. After one day:



I massacred the cable by pulling it out, but there were and still are clear burnmarks. Dont skimp on this folks, its not worth burning your house down over a cable Smiley
2326  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [70 GH/s PPLNS] BitMinter.com *** Merged Mining! *** on: November 13, 2011, 03:38:44 PM
 cgminer 2.0.8 doesn't work w/ linuxcoin some incompatibility

It does work just fine, you just have to create a symbolic link because some libraries were renamed in recent ubuntu releases:

Code:
cd /lib64/
sudo ln -s libncurses.so.5 libtinfo.so.5

after that cgminer 2.0.8 will work fine on linuxcoin (at least it does here).
2327  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wallet encryption bug found (IMPORTANT!) on: November 13, 2011, 02:11:24 PM
Its just the name you object to I think. There already is such a "tax"in the form of transaction fees. Now they benefit miners, I dont see why we could not redirect part of it to a bitcoin foundation.
2328  Economy / Auctions / Re: 5 BTC up for auction! Bidding starts at 1 BTC. on: November 13, 2011, 12:17:33 PM
Do I spoil the party if I bid 4.98 BTC?
2329  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Microsoft Researchers Suggest Method to Improve Bitcoin Transaction Propagation on: November 13, 2011, 11:59:06 AM
Wow.  Microsoft is this interested in Bitcoin?
Don't confuse microsoft with microsoft research. they are a completely different pair of shoes.

They still work for microsoft. I have to agree with Littleshop, I find this extremely interesting, if not shocking. Im not naive, I dont expect this will result in microsoft's application store accepting bitcoins next year, but still, MS -even their research department- taking it seriously is not insignificant.
2330  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wallet encryption bug found (IMPORTANT!) on: November 13, 2011, 11:50:16 AM
Don't know who would come up with the money for it,

We all should. Why not include a donation option in the client? Make it optional, but set it by default so that 0.01% or whatever of each transaction is donated to a fund used to pay Gavin, other developpers and for bug bounties.  There was talk of a bitcoin foundation a while ago, not sure how thats going, but they could manage those funds.

In fact, even making such a donation mandatory wouldnt be such a bad thing, like a tobin tax, or like the transaction fees we already pay to miners. Although of course some people will just fork and use a client without the "tobin tax", if you set a hardcoded lower limit low enough, most people wouldnt mind I think.
2331  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Headless mining with windows on: November 13, 2011, 11:41:39 AM
Yeah I saw bamt before, it really does look nice to manage a farm. But I dont have much of a farm to manage Smiley Just one dedicated rig and no expansion plans. SSH + screen + cgminer is all I need.
2332  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: What flags should I use for 5830s? on: November 13, 2011, 11:16:33 AM
Hashrate is perfectly linear with clockspeed, so its not hard to guess what 900 MHz would net you. Around 365 MH using linuxcoin+cgminer. I dont intend to keep that speed though, it seems stable and my temps are still great, but Im just testing this for 24h, and if its stable then I should have no worries at 850.
2333  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Headless mining with windows on: November 13, 2011, 10:05:52 AM
Well it seems you can overclock in linux with no problems. Just not in ubuntu, or at least not with the catalyst drivers that ship in 11.04 and 11.10.
I thought I tried it, but clearly I didnt in linuxcoin, as I just did it, and there is no problem bumping up the clocks beyond the "safe"limits. Duh! I just wasted hours installing windows and "linuxising"it for nothing!

I assume BAMT is the same, and it looks neat, but Linuxcoin and cgminer over ssh works fine for me, since I already have it configured on a stick, Ill stick with it. Wasted enough time as it is Cheesy.
2334  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: What flags should I use for 5830s? on: November 13, 2011, 09:22:50 AM
You are correct. I was under the impression this was a "linux wide" limitation as I was unable to overclock beyond 775 on 5850s on ubuntu and couldnt find any app that would let me.

Silly me. I had already switched to LinuxCoin a while ago and assumed the same limits. But nope, I just bumped my 5870 to 1 GHz and my 5850 to 900 Mhz (speeds I know to be stable in windows) and it seems to work fine.
2335  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $500 — Butterflylabs, is it a scam? on: November 13, 2011, 09:02:32 AM
I will try to keep this all in one past as most of it is not directly related to proving BL is a scam.

P4man, I am in Thailand right now and I am not mining. I am working with/for the Thai Government to help with the national disaster going on right now. This has interrupted millions of people plans including HDD buyers around the world.


Everyone is quite aware of the situation in Thailand. Thats is no joke. You however, are a joke.

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if I do not pay off the bet then I would need to be labeled as a scammer and banned from the site.

You have already been proven a complete fake.  You dont seriously expect us to believe you are involved in the relief effort, "working for the government" as if you are some Red Adair coming to rescue of Thaland- yet you have time for all these lengthy posts about nothing here. That you have access to the internet, but somehow you cant quickly buy a few coins at Mt Gox or any other exchange.That you are as rich as you pretend, yet have to pay prepaid phone cards with your last remaining BTCs.  That you couldnt have sent those coins to inaba before you left, instead of asking me "what to expect" and pretending to be dissapointed I only bet 10; it was quite clear you were worried I would actually send them. 

Whether you en up sending those remaining coins or not (after you mined them), no one is taking you seriously. Betting every last coin you own plus a few you dont even yet own and cant afford to buy, when you are already in financial trouble is neither smart, nor going to save your face here.
2336  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Holy low temps batman! on: November 12, 2011, 11:10:15 PM
I notice you are using teamviewer. Dont you have a problem with GPU's crashing when you quit teamviewer? Or did you to CCC from loading (as I suspect its Catalyst causing the crashing) ? Sorry if thats a silly question, Im a linux guy, only just installed windows on a miner rig to allow higher overclocks, and Im having a hell of a time remote controlling it.
2337  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $500 — Butterflylabs, is it a scam? on: November 12, 2011, 10:52:19 PM
Just wanted to confirm that I have received 10 BTC + 6.5 BTC to the 2nd BFL escrow address. 

Although I'm not sure how to mark the bet, since it's not complete?

Not sure what your question is. Goat is still mining those 13.5 missing BTC. Then Im sure he'll send them. Should only take a few days with his farm  Cheesy.
2338  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Headless mining with windows on: November 12, 2011, 10:25:08 PM
How is BAMT going to help me achieve overclocks beyond the hardcoded limits in the BIOS? Thats the whole point I dropped linux and installed windows.
2339  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Headless mining with windows on: November 12, 2011, 10:17:48 PM
Lol, while typing that last sentence, I thought, why not see if there is an SSH server port for windows? And there is. And it works. And cgminer runs in it! With temp monitoring, fan control, it all works Smiley


http://www.freesshd.com/

Now there is only one small problem, I can not use screen to detach the ssh session and re attach it later. So if I quit putty or my desktop is turned off, cgminer still runs on the mining rig, but I can not access the interface anymore.

So close! And yet, so far.

Is there a windows alternative to "sudo killall" to kill a process? At least that way I could restart cgminer without spawning new instances. Still not great, but better than nohting.

Any other ideas?
2340  Bitcoin / Mining / Headless mining with windows on: November 12, 2011, 10:05:55 PM
Disclaimer: Ive been mining with linux mostly so far, but wanted to tap in to some overclocking potential of my cards that I can not use on linux (>775 Mhz on my 5850s) or at least I wouldnt know how. So I prepared an old drive with windows 7 and gave it a try.

Now Im trying to remote control the PC, and its hell!

Ive tried remote desktop, VNC, Teamviewer. no matter what I use, when I am remote controlling, I lose all temperature info in cgminer (well, except maybe VNC, dont recall), and when I quit the remote app, one or both videocards will crash and the screen on the miner (which I still have for now) will display horrible corruption.

I think its catalyst doing that? Not sure, but when I launch cgminer automatically on login, it launches before catalyst, and once catalyst loads, I get the same problem. Crashing and corruption. So I have to delay cgminer a bit. All is well when it launches after catalyst it seems.

So how do you windows miners manage your rigs? Im really missing SSH at the point Sad
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