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2341  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your first betting? on: September 16, 2017, 06:39:16 PM
I first bet here at a dice site because i did not try betting in the past year. I had play gambling since i knew bitcoin because i can bet with bitcoin without anyone knows. At first i did not know how to play it and try dice on faucet claims. I did not know that it's hard to win on dice because i only bet high or low but it's not easy to win with faucet that's why i ended up depositng some amount of bitcoin and managed to win my first deposit.
Playing dice by Paper Money is far better than faucets claims. However, it upset me that you started playing gambling because bitcoins gave you the opportunity. Bitcoins can be used in much better things. You must not waste such a precious asset on a risky game. I can't force you that are why I am suggesting you.
2342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: September 14, 2017, 05:15:05 PM
playing p2p poker face to face is quite fun since you can see peoples facial expression and their strong emotion when theya are frustrated or happy.  While playing games online even if it is p2p is not as fun as playing face to face, since we really can't feel  our opponents emotion and their  expression.  Worst is  having an AI as oponent.  Since we can't give a particular analysis against AI.
It is quite obvious that whatever happens live is more energetic to see or feel than online or on some game equipment. Same is the case with gambling. I am against it but as far as the way of playing with more fun and entertainment is concerned then face to face always been amazing experience, people often say.
2343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: September 14, 2017, 03:18:22 PM
Trading is not that risky if you are doing sufficient research. I do know of people who already have $100k and even millions already. They have done proper research, so although they cant time the market, they are not worry about ups and downs but in the long run, they can profit a lot. As for gambling, there is no example that people become rich by gambling against the house edge.

I agree, Trading is a very good way to earn money unlike gambling. Trading will only become like gambling if you are just going to do it without any knowledge about Trading, you are just going to throw away your money that way. Trading is a good way if you want to earn profits in the long run, it is a very good investment but we have to consider the facts that Trading will not be as easy as you think, there are times where the tokens you are holding is going to Dump and Pump, amd all you have to do is to wait.
yes i agree trading is 50% less risk tahn gambling .it has a good  feedback and it really has a big capability to earn big if you have a good experience on it.where as in gambling  is not really profitable in a long run because this gambling is not a good source  of making money because it depend upon your luck.
Risk is there in both trading and gambling but as you said, there are very low chances of loss in trading. It is safe, secure and have much more potential than any game of gambling to yield profit. Gambling is like a parasite that eats you up while trading makes your life easy.

We do hear some people are making money from gambling too. But those cases are very rare hence we never need to consider compared to most of the traders are finding chances to make money.
2344  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the future of gambling on: September 14, 2017, 02:36:15 PM
All that can be said of the future of gambling is now visible. So many gambling games are increasingly varied, in real life, on the internet, using computer, smartphone and others.. this can already be said as the progress the world of gambling. because previously no one is currently available and various types of gambling now. Maybe in the future it will be more varied and more peoples will be involved on gambling.
Smartphones and technology are the perks of future. We all see the rising of technology all over the world and how it transforms all of the sudden an old world into a new era. Gambling converts from traditional casinos to mobile phones so here is the picture you can draw now of gambling in future.
2345  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jamie Dimon: Bitcoin Is a 'Fraud' on: September 14, 2017, 12:46:51 PM
JP Morgan Chase chief executive Jamie Dimon doubled down on his past criticisms of bitcoin today, declaring it a "fraud" and saying he would fire any trader known to be trading the cryptocurrency.

[siz e=15pt]And Recently bitcoin price started dropping very quick and its like $1 dollars in a minute and within few hours today its now in $3923!!
China keeps the market stable but when "Jamie Dimon" speaks about this market started falling huge![/size]


Check this attached photo:

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What you guys feel about this movement?

Lol Bitcoin haters tearing pants…lmao. That’s the best he can do, and he won’t do more than that. He can go ahead and call it a fraud, but I better stay with a “fraud stock” that gives me what I want than a “genuine stock” that turns me into a retched rat. People keeps on saying all sort of rubbish about Bitcoin, and yes it affects it in a way, but it doesn’t take long and you will see it back to the top.
2346  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: why do governments don't make BTC illegal worldwide ? on: September 14, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
Ok I admit that governemnts wont be able to definitely stop BTC by making it illegal. But if a few big countries decide to make it illegal it will become difficult to make it mainstream because less people will dare to use it, to build businesses on it. Making it illegal will be a real break on the BTC adoption. It will remain a geek niche stuff that won't go to te moon ! Also, look what happened after China's decision to temporarily make ICO illegal ! As bad as it sounds governments are able to deeply influence BTC and crypto market ! Don't you agree with this ?
But I still have one question in my mind that many big countries have accepted bitcoin as their legal and regular digital currency like japan. Australia, and so on Vietnam is also in this list and recently I heard that Russia is also going to legalized bitcoin in Russia. Now what will you say about this. There is a conflict between the nations to legalize bitcoin or not.
2347  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you Panic? on: September 14, 2017, 07:42:12 AM
We never know what will be their next move or what are they planning in their minds. So let’s just not concentrate that much on whales. It is better to take decisions by you own without getting influenced from anyone else. One more thing, never give up!
Makes sense, whales are kind of traders who ate very difficult to predict. You may pursue them, noticing their moves, pumps and dumps they are making in market but still they are many so you can’t be settle up in that situation. Just have your own decisions according to whatever price charts declares.
2348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 14, 2017, 06:00:52 AM
I think there's no wrong on gambling the one who gamble and gamble over and over again even if he didn't benefit from that's the real wrong and besides gambling can be dated long ago we should know the history of it.
According to me, it is not exactly wrong it is rather a useless act. However, it can be wrong in some scenarios too. For instance, if a gambler gambles more than he should that is gambling with unlimited amount of money and time. I am also in not favor of gambling with debts. Hurting anyone by any means is indeed wrong in my dictionary.
I don't see it as a useless act rather a riskier way to earn money fast where there a high risk of losing but a there's a chance of earning a high amount of money.
And yes,  gambling isn't wrong but you can use it in a wrong way from which you get addicted and gamble money that you didn't even have. But that's not the only way you can use gambling since you can do for fun and earn money by just betting those extra money you had.
Oh wow, if you think that way then I have no problem with you sticking to it. I won't stop anyone from dying if he is that willing and blind. Dude, let’s just face the facts. Check out the stories of those who have committed suicide and willing to. How about jumping into a wall of fire and making a video, upload it, you will earn money (if you make alive out of it), believe me it’s a lot riskier.
2349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling? on: September 13, 2017, 01:45:32 PM
I am often late from work due to gambling. Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?   
Yes when I experience to be an addict as a gambler Im angry when Im late going to gambling area.I dont want anybody to disturb me.Even my kids I dont have time for them to prepare for their school things.Being single mom is very difficult,not only for their needs for me to provide but also for all their concerns and problems as my kids.
If you are a single mom, then I guess it must be the pressure or burden that you have on your shoulders which pushes you towards gambling. Maybe you find it a way to get some money but honestly speaking, from your words it appears you care about your kids. You are a woman now and women are really strong creatures. Don't ruin yourself in gambling.
2350  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wallet getting blocked? on: September 13, 2017, 01:06:52 PM
ofcourse, your ISP can block or throttle your traffic related to cryptocurrencies. Can you tell us more how is it blocked?
Internet Service Providers have full authority over your internet usage. Not only they can limit the scope of websites, but they also have a log of all your activities. They are providing you internet and the providers have full control over the services they offer. If someone can hide his activities, then he can do whatever he wants to openly.
2351  Economy / Economics / Re: Moment for buying or selling? on: September 13, 2017, 10:44:38 AM
To be honest, price is irrelevant or i would like to say peripheral in this case.Just buy some coins and hold it. I would prefer to actually use those coins to buy goods instead of selling it back to fiat. You know the more the people uses bitcoin to do transaction the better the price will get. Buying bitcoin is always risky but risk it to get the biscuit. Wink
I thought to buy and sell bitcoin we need to memprediksinya and wait for the right time. a good time to buy a bitcoin and gather it is when price reaches the lowest price and bitcoin if we want to sell it then we will also have to wait anyway when reaching the highest price. We cannot determine when the price will go up or down bitcoin because price bitcoin can not we expect therefore a good solution that is waiting to get a good result or benefit greatly.
I think the most important decision which can matter a lot in order to determine your profit is the time which you decide to buy or sell your Bitcoins. I think there is always a right time for everything. You need to act positively in that time period. I will suggest to go for buying only when the prices are getting low and do not sell them till the time you can’t see a good amount of profit.
2352  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: September 12, 2017, 05:31:25 PM
I disagree. Bitcoin will open more opportunity in the future and more jobs in this field. The real threat for job employments are AI and not bitcoin.
You are right that bitcoin has an important role for reducing unemployment and has given job opportunities to several numbers of people.
Most of the people are getting more amre money and they have become the rich people of the society but I think that we should learn other things as alternate skills as there are some ambiguities which needs clarification for example the legalization of bitcoin in each and every country etc.
2353  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: September 11, 2017, 04:13:14 PM
Luck has little to do in gambling to be honest. It is just mathematical statistics at work here. Because there is a house edge that means statistically you are less likely to win than the casinos. This small percentage yeah looks small, but it isn't! There is a big different if you calculate it in the millions of bets, because in a million bets you will see the big difference.
Calculating millions of bets, it is hell of a work. I would rather take a good nap and give my brain a little rest. This much work and no surety of results also! If there will be millions of bets, casino will be earning millions of dollars. Great, even if I somehow make a chance, still the money I will win, would be a small one.

Better is to just gamble with a small amount and cheers! Forget about results. Much better, don't even gamble.
2354  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Problem Gamblers here who are in Debt ? on: September 11, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
Gamblers with Debt is not new. Many of Gamblers (Addict Gamblers) had debts. I personally experienced that long time ago when I'm addicted to a dice game. I borrow some BTC for my friend in exchange for my salary for a month. I lose multiple times and wasted my 2 months salary just on playing Dice. I remember PD was the Dice site where I lose money.  Cheesy
As I've said, Gamblers with Debts is normal.   Cool

Yeah maybe gamblers with debts is normal because we always see and we known some of them that are really addicted in gambling. In short it's not new in our community. As for me, I'm not addicted in gambling, I always control myself whenever I play. Maybe I'm just treating gambling for fun and not for profit. If I win or lose then its okay and call it a day.


I dont think gamblers with debts are normal. I for some reason is addicted to gambling but not in the point i am in debt. I experienced going home feeling down because of losses but never it occured in my mind to gamble until in debt. You are just paying some madeup money that were never urs in the 1st place. Better lost your money than lose money you dont have.

Gamblers should never have debts because of gambling. If a gambler has debts because of gambling that means there is a really big problem here since he is already addicted and he is gambling money he cannot afford to lose. The result of gambling money you cannot afford to lose is that you will definitely be in debts of because in the event you lose that money then that means you definitely need to pay that back somehow.
This is the worst kind of gamblers. They gamble they lose! Still their gambler spirits are high, they bet all of their wealth and lose. Then they go for others money, borrow from friends by making stories, they bet and again they lose. Now left worth no option and hope of recovery, they decide to die. A poor life indeed!
2355  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many people left their full-time employment to go into Bitcoin? on: September 11, 2017, 10:39:47 AM
Although there are people who quit full time jobs in the real world for bitcoin, but I do not think many people do that. I think it's a stupid thing if they leave their work for bitcoin because if he does not have a special skill in bitcoin, then he'll have trouble getting a fixed income from bitcoin in later.
It is appreciable to learn bitcoin and to get some money from it but I shall also not recommend to leave you full time employment for the sake of bitcoin because it’s not a children play to get the expertise in bitcoin and to become a rich person in a very short time. I think bitcoin is the best source of income but as for part time as there are several risk factors which are involved in bitcoin business.
2356  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: September 09, 2017, 06:47:11 PM
You can maximize potential is in you. Don't let every second of your life be wasted, though profits are not always about money. Trading is the best way to make more money (for me). Because in it a risk that must be own responsibility, in contrast being an employee whose lifetime has been bought by the boss. In bitcoin trading we can set profit targets to be achieved for example every month, keep learning and reviewing every transaction is the best way to become a successful trader.
Work, work and work! The only key to increase the amount in your bank accounts. With hard work that has one direction also, a person cannot only earn money but he will get wisdom and secrets of successful life open to him. I have firm believe in passion, determination, and devotion. I also suggest trading for earning long term profits.
2357  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: September 09, 2017, 03:17:45 PM
Bitcoin can help many people. One of the main reason for criminality is money. Even the bitcoin involves money it is not the source of criminality because criminality is from the greed of people. People can earn from bitcoin that needs hard work but because of greedy people and who want to get rich instant then they can do wrong and criminality can happen.
I think these are the two things, because bitcoin is a secure source of money, and the people with criminal mind may be never stole a currency which has no physical existence. Criminal people mostly want cash and go away, but here is not the case of their choice. It will be very difficult for criminals to steal someone bitcoin wallet. So I think bitcoin and criminality are the two different things.
2358  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: September 09, 2017, 07:06:18 AM
The more popular bitcoin will be the for greater bitcoin opportunity to continue to increase over time as well as the bitcoin price movement that is currently experiencing very good increase as it looks like the end of this year will be bitcoin success of $ 5000.
Expecting such a big price increase is something which is not possible by this year. I expect the price to reach $2000 at least based upon the gradual increase without the intervention of any market statistics. As more chances were found to go beyond the quoted price depending upon the Sec and elf contradicts. Let's hope to experience the best.
2359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Chinese government banned all of ICOs on: September 09, 2017, 05:53:12 AM
It is been in forum news about this china move to banned of ICO.. First maybe they're just using it to lower the price of bitcoin and other altcoin to spread panic selling.. Second I don't have foresee big impact of this happening to bitcoin itself.. And lastly,, china has own decisions to make for the welfare of its people let just respect that.. You might've bought some bitcoin now,, as it still much cheaper than the past few days..
To be very honest, I was waiting for such a move. It is not very surprising from China because they have already done stunts like this in the past like in 2013. What I think is the massive investments of local currency in unregulated ICOs forced Chinese government to take this step. Well, I am as cool as I was last week. This storm will also pass.
2360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Benefits from Gambling on: September 07, 2017, 06:20:27 PM
I dont feel getting benefits of it.Gambling is never release my stress too and I lose more, everything is just luck
Yes your definitely right. In my own opinion no player have get any benefit from gambling because once a player start playing in gambling even they won alot of money they will still lose it all if they never stop playing. The only people who gets a benefit from gambling are the dealers and the owner of a certain casino.

Hahahha, that's the worst news of all time in gambling. indeed most people who do gambling will definitely get defeat, but that's just a test for gamblers. Because gambling certainly has a defeat and also a victory, so if indeed we want to get a victory is definitely must have the best strategy. One thing that you should have is self-control, because that alone can give us enough strength to succeed in gambling. If you can not do it there is a chance that it will be hard to win (lose)
I think it's better if we will not gonna long for long term victory because in gambling everything is just temporary in terms of winning because it's a business and operators are operating for profit and they will win because they have the edge. If we think of that we will understand that any games they will offer they have an advantage on it so we have to limit and that requires self control as you said.
Yes, gambling is not for earning profits. It never was.
I don't understand why people try to make it their source of income. Honestly speaking, for me gambling is a very ruthless and brutal game. A person who has a sharp mind and calm from inside can make money in gambling, else don't stand a chance.
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