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2381  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: November 07, 2016, 04:23:15 AM
Yeah if you can catch a casino at its start there can be some good money to be made but there is the possibility of scams so got to watch that.

Even though you can make a good money if you invest in any casino at the beginning but it is not advised to invest on non-trusted sites until they prove that they are a reliable site. It is good to diversify your money and invest in few good casinos instead of going with new casinos. Invest carefully otherwise you may lose all your investments.

That is correct, it is always safe and recommended to only invest to reputable online casino that accepts investment to their platform. There will be new ones that accept investment but we they really have no track records to prove that they are trustworthy. I am invested to one of the leading casinos and so far, I am in a profit.

And it depends on how much you are willing to invest to them. But this is really one of the best investments with bitcoin. And when there are some casino's that offer bigger returns, I doubt it and don't give your trust to them easily. That is why you really need to do know what are the best of the best casino's where you can invest.

With regards to the amount of investment we are willing to invest to these online casino, I would suggest not to put all of your invest in 1 time investment - it is way better to do regular small investment than just one time investment. The reason is to get away with some variations and negative profits on certain given weeks.
2382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: November 07, 2016, 04:20:07 AM
Well that and investors of the site tend to earn the most.
That is right that is why I always prefer to invest our capital for building our own casino and not on the playing gambling on different places as with gamble we do not have chance to earn each time but in having casino we will have chance to earn each time.

Small issue is building your own casino that you control and that your not using some other site to processes the bets is not going to be cheap if you want it to look good.
Some of these sites put in 10k-15k for development thats not including servers and ddos protection.
You are right it is not in the hands of every person to start their own casino these are the millionaires who are starting their own casino and they are spending much of their money in starting these casino and then spend much of their money in promoting them.

For me, if you don't have big capital to operate online casino and all these important marketing plans promoting it, I would highly suggest that you better go invest to reputable casinos that accepts third party investors to their platform - I will not promote any but they are quite popular here in the forum - better research on them first before investing.
2383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: November 07, 2016, 04:18:03 AM
Hello guys I am addicted to gambling.How can I quit this?
There is an extremely simple solution to quit gambling with bitcoin. just throw all of your btc in a paper wallet and store it or give it to someone you trust to hold onto it.

If you do not have access to the money, then you can possible lose it. right?
For me it is not the best way as the person will remain with nothing and he will not be able to spend his life better and he will not be able to start any other activity like any other business as without money it is totally impossible so the better way is to start a business from beginning and give time to family for fun.
But there are a lot of people who like the same way I mean there are a lot of gamblers who do not leave gambling and continue to gamble until they lose all of their money so it is better that they keep their money in some other place with some one and when they forget gambling then they have to ask for their money.
There are actually a lot of people who does not stop gambling until they lose their money and you called them gambling addicts and most if not all of them suffer consequences of being irresponsible in gambling. They should quit but they do not have the guts to do it unless there are people that's close to them like their family who will influence them on a more productive activities.

That is so true! I gamble hard before but when my son was born few months ago, I stopped gambling because of guilt. When I see his face, I get this urge to do some stable source of income for his future - gambling is definitely not a stable way to income, I should say that it is a stable way to lose your hard earned money, period.
2384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: November 07, 2016, 04:16:02 AM
Ive seen many as of late on bitvest and more and more seem to be joining.
Bitvest is online gambling service, right? So how can you tell that more girls are joining to play there?
You certainly can't be sure about who is playing just by looking at nicknames of people.

I recently learned that some semi-professional Poker players like to use female nicknames and avatar while plating online just get an edge over other players.
It is proven that male poker players exhibit more risky behavior around female players.
Exactly, you cannot tell or estimate the total number of girls playing in a certain site. We are in the anonymous work and gambling site do accept our bet without asking our identity or gender. You can only tell if you know a certain gamblers personally.

Girls do gamble and that's the reality, but they are just a small number compared to men in my estimate as well.

You are right. The number of girls who gambles compared to men is really that not big - factors to consider is that there are countries and cultures that prohibits women to gamble. But yes, it is true that there are women who gambles online. We can easily find them in online casino chatrooms - mostly are active are women to some of these online casinos.
2385  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: November 07, 2016, 04:13:44 AM
I don't think that it will disappear banks as banks are already have much works to do and their work is not only to store money for people but they are also maintaining the financial affairs for governments and for different organizations.

The bank's tie with the government is the one that keeps it surviving and not just the money... That is why it will be difficult for bitcoin to make banks disappear, bitcoin could only substitute the money but not the other transactions that banks are holding...  Smiley

Surely it  will be hard for bitcoin to make the disappearance of banks in the scene. And you are right with it because of sovereign power of banks that they are connected and being controlled by the government. But it depends to the banks if they will allow bitcoins to enter the scene or make an adoption for the usage and services of bitcoin.

We should always remember that bitcoin is just an alternative for using fiat money online. There are people that doesn't prefer bitcoin as a form of online transaction and thus banks will always be there. This is also the same with bitcoins, there are people that prefers using bitcoin to some of their online transactions and thus they will only need bitcoin wallets however, they still have their bank accounts for other transactions that most need it.
2386  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: November 07, 2016, 04:11:20 AM
Fiat has several restrictions and rules to follow and some countries doesnt allot to gamble, bitcoin since its decentralized no one will know if you are gambling or not, there is no way to them discover and yes bitcoin may turn if not is already the future to gamble online.
and with bitcoin even those citizens of countries can gamble who are banned from their state and even those people can gamble who cannot show themselves that they are gambling so with that way the bitcoin gambling is becoming more famous and the owners of these sites are earning high profit and the future of gambling is the payment of bitcoin only.
yes i agree with you because of these reasons now each gambling site will leave other currencies and will accept only bitcoin currency for their members to gamble on their sites.

Yeah, but the main reason is that bitcoin transaction in terms to gambling is very convenient and fast! Unlike in ordinary fiat money, you don't have to give your identifications and other necessary documents before you can have an account to that casino that accepts fiat money. In bitcoin, you can create account to these online casinos in a matter of minutes.
2387  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: November 07, 2016, 04:08:33 AM
Same as  other members  here i would  not  put  up all   my  money into bitcoin because we all know that the price  is  unstable and anytime it would  drop its  price  that would result  to a  huge  loss for sure but  im  putting  up  only a small  amount on all of  my assets because i do have high  hopes  for bitcoin  for   the  longer runs.
But all of us have to know that if we will put all of our money in bitcoin then the demand of bitcoin will increase and the price of it will also increase with the demand so in that situation we will not  lose our money because the price of bitcoin will not drop.

Markets will not work like that. Just you put all your money means it will go up. Many big players are controlling it so even small guys like us buy with all our money still these big players can manipulate the system, and you may lose a lot of money. So it is not advised to put all your money in any one product whether it is a bitcoin or something else.

Very good advice there! It is not really a good idea to put all of your money in certain investment vehicle - whether it is bitcoin or other investments. As what the popular saying and I quote: "Never put all of your eggs in one basket". The reason is simple, if that basket falls, then you don't have any fallback because you go allin!
2388  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: November 07, 2016, 04:06:00 AM
In my own opinion those methods or strategy can just help you to have idea how to play it.. but there is no assurance that you can make a good profit in those methods ..
It is just a guid how to play for me or to have idea.. i just using those methods in my own to try some technique to make profit..
There are two purpose in gambling which are to make money and to be entertain. Whatever your purpose you have to act accordingly for you to be safe. Actually it is just fine to lose money when you are having fun as that is just part of your entertainment expense but when you shift your purpose along the way that's when the real problem will come.
I don't know but in order to be entertained by  gambling you must win money, you can't be entertained when you are losing money. Either way you must win for you in order to be entertained. Also casinos are good at this as they always make you win some bets in order for you not to realize that you are losing big time. Well it is always in the gamblers mind if he is losing or not.
Well, that should be our goal but most of the time we lose, so with that are we not gonna enjoy gambling?

Gambling is a form of entertainment, therefore it's just right to enjoy gambling regardless of the outcome of our bets. Not all the time we will win so better accept whatever the outcome of your bets.

That is correct that gambling is just a form of entertainment. But for those professional gamblers, it is no longer an entertainment but a pure work and business. They execute a pre-planned betting and stick to it no matter what - not even with emotion attached on it. When they lose on a certain session, they will just automatically go on to the next session and the like.
2389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 07, 2016, 04:04:08 AM
A lot of people here gamble to become rich, but some do it for fun.

The question is, if you wake up tomorrow with 50 million dollars, would you still gamble for fun, or would you forget about gambling and do other stuff? Personally I think I would still gamble. I do it now, and I know I realistically will never get rich off gambling, because I barely do it and I don't risk much money, just for fun sometimes, to test my luck.
So if I had a lot of money, I would do bigger gambles, but they would still enter in the "for fun" amount (for the new 50 million standard). For example, gambling 1K a month would be irrelevant, and winning with a 1K bet can give you big rewards if you are lucky. It would still be fun, in fact more fun, and it would be as non risky as it is now, in terms of going financially bankrupt.

I liked your answer. I also do the same

Wow if i woke up with 50M dollars.. I would not gamble it.  I would just simply go on a long vacation and educate myself how to grow it and multiply it. 
If I have that amount - i will go to Law School... and invest in myself some more.
good thinking mate finding more ways to grow your money would be much more fun and it will somehow move you away from gambling especially if you find that way from your interest it will focus your mind in what you love and make you more successful.
I agree with this because once you've already find the way to increase your financial without gambling it  will very good thing to do than to play gambling at all because in gambling we don't have any assurance if we can really earn here in a very short time.
In my case if I have a lot of money and the love of gambling is still with me then I would surely not hesitate to gamble. You would appreciate gambling when you are rich because you are not afraid of losing as the money you spend is just a small amount for you, you will not be like the others who are desperate in making money in gambling.

In short, we will likely have more playing times when you are rich because you have plenty of excess money to mess around in order to be entertain and just having fun versus people that have limited resources in terms of finances. This only means that gambling, as a general rule, must only be perform for entertainment only and not for profit if you don't know what you are doing.
2390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: November 07, 2016, 04:01:55 AM
The main idea to gambling of course for profits even tough I do enjoy process that required knowledge, skills and luck, it's fun.
We can't avoid losses in gambling so just bet what I can afford to lose and set some amount just for gambling and when it gone, I quit.


Your concept is good like play with some money which you can afford to lose and come out when you lose. But you understood reason for gambling wrongly because it is not made to bring profits to gamblers instead for gambling houses makes profits and gamblers will get some fun with playing different games.

I agree with this that in the end it will always be the gambling casino sites that will profit because of the their house edge advantage. However, there are professional gamblers out there that really killing it - but that is because they have many systems in place that they execute. These are the pre-planned bets and have certain amount of target.
2391  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: November 07, 2016, 03:59:32 AM
Yeah if you can catch a casino at its start there can be some good money to be made but there is the possibility of scams so got to watch that.

Even though you can make a good money if you invest in any casino at the beginning but it is not advised to invest on non-trusted sites until they prove that they are a reliable site. It is good to diversify your money and invest in few good casinos instead of going with new casinos. Invest carefully otherwise you may lose all your investments.

That is correct, it is always safe and recommended to only invest to reputable online casino that accepts investment to their platform. There will be new ones that accept investment but we they really have no track records to prove that they are trustworthy. I am invested to one of the leading casinos and so far, I am in a profit.
2392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 04, 2016, 02:57:42 PM
If you are asking me its not wrong but also not the best thing you can do, I love gambling so now and than and I really enjoy it but I also never had any problems with it too.
I think that you just have to know your stop point honestly!
Even though gambling is making a lot of lives of gamblers miserable it is not the gambling itself fault. But it is the gamblers wrong using of it.

And that is why many people are seeing gambling is wrong for those gamblers who are not using gambling properly.

Because gambling is a business and a source of entertainment.
Irresponsible gambling and having so much fun playing gambling all the times makes it wrong.
I agree ,some of gamblers think that gambling house is wrong but actually we some of us use to play gambling so much so we get addicted to it. If you let yourself to be addicted and have no limit even you are rich the result will not good at all. Gamblers makes gambling wrong and Gambling house are happy on it because they earn much.

True. Most gamblers are deeply involved in this kind of situations.. they feel that they are having so much fun and in the end they are losing a lot of money and they didn't realize it until they go bankrupt. This is the truth for most of gamblers and I think that it is so wrong.
Gambling is all about the fun but too much fun is not good anymore, in gambling although we are playing for the entertainment, we still have to control our self because it is like we are spending for our wants but we forget to spend for our needs.

Should be need first then wants.

That is right, all things that are way too much is really bad. The real purpose of gambling is to give entertainment to the players in the casino and of course to make profit to the casino operators, period. Now, the fact that they are designed to get profit (which guarantee of casino winning is in the form of house edge), you should not be betting more than you can afford to lose because you will eventually lose if you are just betting randomly. If you are like that of the professional gamblers though, it would be a different situation.
2393  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: November 04, 2016, 02:53:14 PM
How does one Put down Gambling for good?

You need to find other hobbies.
You also need to quite doing things you do and are related to gambling. Maybe change friends or at least avoid them for some time, ...

Lets say when i stopped smoking.  I always smoke when drink coffee. Coffee actually was tasteless to me without a cigarette. So when I decided to stop smoking I started to drink tea instead of coffee. This went on for few weeks or months. Latter i normally was able to drink coffee and enjoy it without a cigarette.


For good is a very serious one. One way to quit where I find very effective is you need to spend all your money in gambling and if you have bigger loses you will realize that gambling is not good for you and you will never gamble alone.

Sometimes bad experience will help us learn.

Wow! That is really a bad move, spend all of your money in gambling! That is not really wise, honestly. You are not testing yourself and make it a parameter as to whether or not you are going to stop gambling afterwards, but you are actually messing your life and your finances! Imagine all the bills and basic needs for your family are being burn in gambling in order to realize that you must stop gambling - doesn't really make sense for Sad
2394  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: November 04, 2016, 02:50:02 PM
Girls need not to gamble as they get everything from guys who gamble to fulfill the desires of girls. Gambling is a stressful process and girls don't take part in such things. They just support or enforce guys to gamble for them by keep asking different things. Girls gamble on guys not in casinos.

I never ever in my life heard about a girl who would ask a guy to gamble for her. Usually girls try to avoid risks and keep guys away from them also, so gambling is a big no-no for girls. So when she asks to gamble for her it can only mean that she is manipulative and abusive person who only cares about herself.

Indeed mate. Most girls will not do that because of the risks. Girls will not allow guys to lose their money especially in gambling.. It's an isolated case if the girl asks for you to gamble that very very rare scenarios.

Well, my wife will be an exception! Smiley Really, before when I bet on big amount of money, I usually ask her if I'll hit the button and she always says: "ok, go on!" there are even times that she will be the one to press the bet button. She is just a very strong woman and i am very proud of her - she is strong in life.
2395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 04, 2016, 02:47:34 PM
I don't know why but I always get a feeling to gamble, after then losing my money, I quit for some time and then continue, but I know I will lose my btc Sad

Why is it so addictive?

Gambling is not addictive at all. Winning part of gambling is.  No one likes losing. Most actually hates it. So cant be really addictive with losing. But winning is addictive just simple because it is fun.
I agree. It defends on your self control. winning big is not addictive but its more being a wise and smart playing gambling. once you win control your feelings. be contented to what you win. and quit. 

Correct. If you can't control yourself when gambling - whether you are winning or losing, I highly recommend that you don't gamble at once! Why? Because that is how exactly people lose in gambling when their emotion is on top on their gambling sessions. This is really bad because when you are too emotional, you tend to do decisions that are not reasonable like betting allin with all of your hard earned money.
2396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 04, 2016, 02:45:03 PM
If you are rich you will of course gamble because people with money dont care about the money that they lost and that is bad because they can even be poor of it.
And they are not realizing that so that have to change also otherwise they will get also addicted and that is bad.
Rich people often times keep on gambling because of their
 other profit is not at stake but I think if you become rich or instant rich
 when you won the lottery or something you should get a business first hand so your profit will continue and if you do this you can now play with no worries.
It's hard to win in lottery mate but if I will win in lottery I will still gamble. It's good to gamble when you are rich because you can enjoy the game so much compared to just gambling with a little amount of money where you are hesitant of putting your bets because you are afraid of losing.

You are right about the hesitation on betting because of being afraid that your money will all get wrecked. However, whether we become rich or not, it is always an individual preferences as to bet or not. If a person is not that rich and bet hard already, no wonder even if that person will still do the same thing - betting hard once he/she gets rich.
2397  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 31, 2016, 10:57:00 AM
There is really nothing safer when you are gambling. It is pure is taking risk and you may win or loose without having control over the results. if someone claims that he knows anything which is safer method to gamble that can be just without senses. When gambling means using chance to win or loose then it is not safer at all.
I think the safety methods are prevetn your self to gamble since if you gamble and experience of winning profit you will be trigger to play again. and come back again to play until you deposit more and gamble for nothing..
I think you are right. Gambling is very risky and you can lose all your money in a blink of an eye. Try to avoid gambling as many as you can because it is not good at all. If you believe that you can earn money from gambling, you are absolutely wrong. It is very hard to get a stable profit from your luck. I only gamble for fun.

Well for some, simply avoiding gambling is not possible. And i think there are ways to be safe without avoiding gambling but that would require you to not take gambling personally and to leave emotions out of it. Greed most of the time the reason why people go broke. It's an emotion that you feel when you can't get enough of one thing so i think avoiding getting your feelings involved is the saest way
It's okay to play with your emotions if you are gambling with the amount of money you can afford to lose, and when we play with our emotions we are having more fun although sometimes it cannot be avoided that we still lose in the long run.

Losing is the hardest part in gambling but once we can accept that, we will be happy as a gambler.

That is really the whole point of gambling - to make the player having fun and be entertained. If you allocate a certain amount of money that you can afford to lose, then play with all of your emotions and have fun - just think of it that the money you bet is your payment to the casino that gives you fun right at that very moment.
2398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 31, 2016, 10:54:42 AM
Maybe work on your physical health. Start exercising/working out with some goal to reach like losing xx amount of weight. Or maybe walking/running/biking/swimming with a goal to be able to reach XX mi/km or whatever. Or train to be able to compete in some  amateur walking/running/biking/swimming event. Or take up an organized team sport to help give you more structure to help keep you at it.
This can't be done by everyone to be honest. The number of obese people in the world especially in America is insanely increasing. Kids nowadays are starting to be really fat since they are all lazy. That running, biking, and swimming, can only be done by people that are fit enough. Some people can't even start exercising. It is really hard especially if you've been gambling all day for the past few months and then you'll try to do something else. The only way that it'll be less hard is if you're going to do it with somebody. Someone that would show sincere moral support to you.

That is right and to the point. Every advises here, including mine, are just easier said than done. At the end of the day, that person that want to stay away with gambling will have the courage and 100% commitment to quit gambling. That would be a very major decision in his/her life and only him can primarily decide that.
2399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 31, 2016, 10:52:22 AM
Of course I play gambling for get some profit that is the point and I also think you get some profit you'll be fun play gambling..but i dont know when you lose in gambling that should fun or sad

Even though we are gambling for fun only but no doubt that we will always feel sad if we are losing our money on it. But the sadness is not as hard as when we gamble for profit only.
Of course because when we lose it is not only we lose money but also it will also touches our pride. We believe so much in our capability in gambling that's why we are making method to win and that is a great success on our part if we can win consistently.

That is definitely true - that pride. Of course, that pride will lead you to too much loses along the way if you are not careful enough. I would suggest to not to attached in gambling when you bet. Just think of it as a simple game for fun and nothing more - don't you ever think of it as your source of income unless you are a professional gambler.
2400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 31, 2016, 10:48:35 AM
hi guys, i bought 1BTC today and i am wondering to gamble or to invest the 1btc?

if to gamble
 
best site to gamble with a really nice provably fair..

and if to invest.

best investment program wherein no scam.

thank you for your opinions guys

cheers

If you are just going to gamble your 1 btc you will just lose all of it without knowing how you losed. Investment programs are mostly scam so i don't prefer you to invest your 1 btc in that. I prefer trading because you have many choices where coin to invest or not. You must have patience in trading in order to gain profit.

Same here, I would advice to just do trading than gambling. However, there is a catch of my recommendation - you must invest some time to learn how to effectively trade altcoins and know the pump and dump concepts in the market and other stuffs need to be learned. Therefore, you should not go ahead and start trading right away, better to start learning first.
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