I'm not going to mention my product or service That's funny because you want to advertise this product  I stand with my conclusions. Till now, you fail to disprove any of the points that I have raised  Good luck scammer |
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السلام عليكم يبدوا ان صديقك الذي قام بهذه الصفقات لم يعمل المعاملات بشكل صحيح. اي اقصد ان كان مثلاً يبيع ويشتري بمبالغ اكثر من ١٠ آلاف دولار يوميًا هذا يعني انه كان يعمل
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وهناك حسابات خاصة يجب طلبها في البنوك. (الحساب البنكي الشخصي يمكنك استخدامه لي بيع العملات او التحويل مرة في الأسبوع ولكن ليس بشكل يومي ومستمر. عندما تعمل تحويلات مستمرة بشكل يومي هذا يعني انك تستخدم الحساب الشخصي لتداول بدلا من طلب حساب من البنك خاص في التداول. او مثلاً فتح حساب بنكي لشركة تنشئها انت لتداول. الحساب الشخصي ليس جيد لمثل هذه المعاملات اليومية هذا معروف في جميع انحاء العالم وليس فقط الأمارات. الأهم ايضاً هل الشخص مالك الحساب مواطن في الأمارات ام هو شخص اجنبي؟ اذا كان مواطن النيابة العامة قد تتفهم الموضوع بأنه شخص يبيع ويشتري العملات اما اذا كان اجنبي فذلك يضع علامة استفهام "هل الشخص بما انه اجنبي يقوم بغسيل أموال تأتي من الخارج على شكل عملات مشفرة ويقوم بتبيضها في الأمارات" هذا هو السؤال. في حال كان الشخص قادر على اثبات مصدر الأموال لن يكون هناك اي مشكلة. اذا مصدر العملات غير معروف اذاً قد يواجه تهم بغسيل الأموال.
عندما كنت أتحقق من كشوفاته المصرفية ، تمت إحالتها إلى اسم شركة. كان يستخدم أحد البنوك التجارية. لم يرسل لي جميع كشوف الحسابات المصرفية للتحقق منها ، وسأؤكد ما إذا كان قد استخدم مصرفه الشخصي أم لا. إنه مواطن أجنبي ويقيم في دبي. سأستفسر أيضًا عن مصدر أمواله مرة أخرى. من كل ما أعرفه ، يدير حسابات وسائل التواصل الاجتماعي لمشاهير المستوى 3 وكان يستخدم نفس الصندوق لتحقيق ربح من تداول P2P. بعد قراءة الردود هنا ، أعتقد أنه بريء والتحقيق الجاري سيصل إلى نفس النتيجة (إلا إذا كان يخفي شيئًا عني وسيتضح من التحقيق). سيحصل على تحديث في الأسبوع المقبل أو نحو ذلك.
When I was checking his bank statements, they were referred to a company name. He was using a business bank. He didn't send me all of the bank statements to check, I will confirm whether he used his personal bank or not as well. He's of foreign national, who stays in Dubai. I will also inquire about his source of funds once again. From what I know, he manages social media accounts of Tier 3 celebrities and was using the same fund to make a profit from P2P trading. After reading the replies here, I believe that he's innocent and the ongoing investigation will land on the same result (Unless he's hiding something from me which will become clear from the investigation). He will get an update in the next week or so. |
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I give zero shits about google. I am concerned about users who might end up in your scheme and face consequences because they weren't aware of the risks beforehand. I have talked to definevalue(check my first post on this thread) on telegram in the past when they were looking to start their own business. They are a good person(and I hope they think the same about me). My posts are meant as a warning for them and other users like him. These are the problems with your offer: - You fail to mention your product or keyword until now. Someone with a legit business would have done so in their original post. You are looking for an advertisement right? Why be so private then?
- If there's no predetermined business or keyword, then you can abuse their accounts and probably run ads on any keywords at any time. Possibly landing them in legal trouble too.
Until now you have written 1000+ words with zero mentions about what your business is about This fact alone cements my belief about your business being a blackhat and probably very illegal. |
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Even if you're running a fully legitimate campaign on Google nowadays, you've still got a high chance of random AI misfire suspension...
Nt. Google never fires a wrongful suspension. This excuse may work with your naive clients ofc. To me, it sounds like you've been banned in the past and dealt with having multiple accounts banned [It sounds like you tried to do exactly what we're doing but weren't successful.... Idk why you keep on bringing what I may or may not have done. This is a topic about your service and not my biography lol $20/daily for someone who will never use Google Ads is pretty good Good luck finding anyone. Since you have agreed yourself that whoever enrolls may never be able to use google adwords. why not try running ads with your friends or family like you said? Yes, why not? Why ask strangers to do that for you and not your own family and friends? Unless you are running maaaany accounts for same product, which wouldn't make sense because like I already said: You would be driving CPC by competing with yourself. Why not just increase cpc or budget on your own account. Your logic and answer make no sense. You haven't setup a new campaign recently then... Ever since June, even our standard one campaign lead-gen/e-commerce campaigns are being suspended. Of course they come back on appeal when someone actually reviews the campaign. What's interesting to me is the fact you continue to respond here. Sure, anyone on a forum should be weary of anyone promising money and you made that clear. So why are you still here... That's the only reason I bring up your lack of success. I'm not going to keep entertaining these posts, however to anyone interested who currently runs ads. Read the posts further up, you can still run ads assuming you're not running my exact campaigns with my specific keywords. I'd love for someone with a better understanding of adwords than this guy to chime in here. Sure. Google loves suspending people for no reason. And not because someone really broke their ToS. And now the same person is looking for new accounts while being anonymous too. And whoever applies to your scheme, will get their accounts banned too(which you fail to mention in your OP). I am not the one enticing people and use their accounts to abuse google ads (There's still a chance that they may end up in legal trouble since we don't know what your product or keyword is). This isn't called being successful kiddo. It's called being a conman, Know your words. |
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Cringe. You’re the person here who doesn’t grasp basic concepts and can’t think further than 5 minutes. If he had used BTC LN instead, then it could have been a different story. I wouldn't be pissed either because that would be the correct adoption.
They’re not using the main chain señor troll. You can use any lightning wallet and their state wallet uses lightning too, to my knowledge. Sure dude. Maybe do a google search before you act so cocky on the internet then it will be less humiliating for you?lol Actually, they are not even using lightning wallets. They are using a centralized payment processor that has personal accounts for users, like any other payment app. This centralized processor happens to use lightning wallets in its backend, but there is no 1:1 mapping of payment_account:lightning_wallet. And since Lightning itself doesn't interact with the blockchain except when you open/close payment channels, there is no actual use of bitcoin in the whole scheme.
Which is of course to be expected, as the bitcoin network is entirely unable to process the transactions of a small rural town.
Basically, people in El Salvador will use a centralized payment app that happens to denominate prices in Bitcoin. It will be interesting to see how much this actually works with the extreme volatility of Bitcoin, but for a country that is apparently desperate to get foreign value into the country it may be the worse option, except for all the others. Last time I checked, proclaiming that you found something on the internet does not give that information credibility merely because someone on the internet said something with which you agree and believe to be true - instead you should name your source, in order that there might be some abilities to attempt to figure out what kinds of sources that your source might have (if any) for their factual assertions, instead of just making up purported facts.. .which sometimes happens and is even more likely to happen if we get into habits of not even trying to figure out the sources of information that any of us rely upon when we are wanting to make arguments or to verify which arguments we are more inclined to agree. Sure, prove me wrong then. Cite your sources. I am waiting. You can write paragraphs all day long. It still won't change the reality in your favour lol You are the one who had made a claim. I did not make any claims except to suggest that your claims may well have a bit more persuasive power if they had an actual source(s) besides "found on internet." Of course, you do not really need to provide sources if you do not want, but then your claims may well have little to no persuasive power if they either depend on facts or some kind of analysis of facts that you had not provided. What are you wanting me to provide sources for? What claims did I make and fail/refuse to adequately back up? By the way, I don't even recall disagreeing with you in any kind of meaningful way, yet... but yeah, if you want to argue about things for the mere sake of it, then surely I might feel up to it.. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself.. gotta give you a bit of a chance first, no? You have not said too many things that were outrageously dumb - only just a little dumb so far.. besides your seeming to show tinges of wanting to insist that you are the smartest in the room.. . .. but sure.. it's possible that I could be reading you wrongedly.. just barely getting to know uie-pooie. To know what claims you made, read your first paragraph. You talk about how what I have found could be wrong and isn't credible, but you fail to prove it wrong or provide anything to back your own claims |
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Cringe. You’re the person here who doesn’t grasp basic concepts and can’t think further than 5 minutes. If he had used BTC LN instead, then it could have been a different story. I wouldn't be pissed either because that would be the correct adoption.
They’re not using the main chain señor troll. You can use any lightning wallet and their state wallet uses lightning too, to my knowledge. Sure dude. Maybe do a google search before you act so cocky on the internet then it will be less humiliating for you?lol Actually, they are not even using lightning wallets. They are using a centralized payment processor that has personal accounts for users, like any other payment app. This centralized processor happens to use lightning wallets in its backend, but there is no 1:1 mapping of payment_account:lightning_wallet. And since Lightning itself doesn't interact with the blockchain except when you open/close payment channels, there is no actual use of bitcoin in the whole scheme.
Which is of course to be expected, as the bitcoin network is entirely unable to process the transactions of a small rural town.
Basically, people in El Salvador will use a centralized payment app that happens to denominate prices in Bitcoin. It will be interesting to see how much this actually works with the extreme volatility of Bitcoin, but for a country that is apparently desperate to get foreign value into the country it may be the worse option, except for all the others. Last time I checked, proclaiming that you found something on the internet does not give that information credibility merely because someone on the internet said something with which you agree and believe to be true - instead you should name your source, in order that there might be some abilities to attempt to figure out what kinds of sources that your source might have (if any) for their factual assertions, instead of just making up purported facts.. .which sometimes happens and is even more likely to happen if we get into habits of not even trying to figure out the sources of information that any of us rely upon when we are wanting to make arguments or to verify which arguments we are more inclined to agree. Sure, prove me wrong then. Cite your sources. I am waiting. You can write paragraphs all day long. It still won't change the reality in your favour lol |
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Then i dont get your point, any state wallet couldnt be trusted as decentralized, so they might as well use a centralized approach that fits their needs better. If people can still use any lightning wallet, then what is the shocking thing? We’re all also still using bank accounts even tho it’s centralized and untrustworthy.
Sure dude. Keep on bargaining. From calling me cringe and stupid because apparently according to you El salvador was using LN, to defending El salvador for using a centralized app(they are not even using bitcoin lol but something which is exact opposite of bitcoin's philosophy and smearing its name). You are delusional. Take your meds. I prefer utilizing my time somewhere lese rather than discussing something with a disrespectful 12 y/o kid with zero undertanding about economics. It won’t be volatile forever, but this problem is fixed now by accounting in usd and just converting right away in daily commerce, that’s why they put up a trust fund to do exactly this. |
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Cringe. You’re the person here who doesn’t grasp basic concepts and can’t think further than 5 minutes. If he had used BTC LN instead, then it could have been a different story. I wouldn't be pissed either because that would be the correct adoption.
They’re not using the main chain señor troll. You can use any lightning wallet and their state wallet uses lightning too, to my knowledge. Sure dude. Maybe do a google search before you act so cocky on the internet then it will be less humiliating for you?lol You can still use any lightning wallet, that is the point. Even if chivo doesn’t do it apparently. Basically, people in El Salvador will use a centralized payment app that happens to denominate prices in Bitcoin.
The merchants can convert to usd right away trough chivo, maybe thats why did they did it. What else did I say in my post? Read twice before you comment. |
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Cringe. You’re the person here who doesn’t grasp basic concepts and can’t think further than 5 minutes. If he had used BTC LN instead, then it could have been a different story. I wouldn't be pissed either because that would be the correct adoption.
They’re not using the main chain señor troll. You can use any lightning wallet and their state wallet uses lightning too, to my knowledge. Sure dude. Maybe do a google search before you act so cocky on the internet then it will be less humiliating for you?lol Actually, they are not even using lighning wallets. They are using a centralized payment processor that has personal accounts for users, like any other payment app. This centralized processor happens to use lightning wallets in its backend, but there is no 1:1 mapping of payment_account:lightning_wallet. And since Lightning itself doesn't interact with the blockchain except when you open/close payment channels, there is no actual use of bitcoin in the whole scheme.
Which is of course to be expected, as the bitcoin network is entirely unable to process the transactions of a small rural town.
Basically, people in El Salvador will use a centralized payment app that happens to denominate prices in Bitcoin. It will be interesting to see how much this actually works with the extreme volatility of Bitcoin, but for a country that is apparently desperate to get foreign value into the country it may be the worse option, except for all the others. |
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Even if you're running a fully legitimate campaign on Google nowadays, you've still got a high chance of random AI misfire suspension...
Nt. Google never fires a wrongful suspension. This excuse may work with your naive clients ofc. To me, it sounds like you've been banned in the past and dealt with having multiple accounts banned [It sounds like you tried to do exactly what we're doing but weren't successful.... Idk why you keep on bringing what I may or may not have done. This is a topic about your service and not my biography lol $20/daily for someone who will never use Google Ads is pretty good Good luck finding anyone. Since you have agreed yourself that whoever enrolls may never be able to use google adwords. why not try running ads with your friends or family like you said? Yes, why not? Why ask strangers to do that for you and not your own family and friends? Unless you are running maaaany accounts for same product, which wouldn't make sense because like I already said: You would be driving CPC by competing with yourself. Why not just increase cpc or budget on your own account. Your logic and answer make no sense. |
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This is what happens when a country gets a daft leader with no understanding of the ground reality. “We can’t get a loan from the bank now. We’ve had to put our dream on pause. We’re worried about what to eat each day, not about Bitcoin going up and down.” Whatever your view may be on the Bitcoin adoption by El Salvador president the fact remains that El Salvador citizens now have a legal decentralized digital currency, that is serving as an alternative to the United States dollars. This to me means that the president is smart enough to take the financial power off the string of our dollars and peg it on a decentralized currency like Bitcoin, and if you look closely the president's decision to adopt Bitcoin as a legal tender is the best financial diversification and over-concentration of the country economy on the United States dollars since El Salvador does not have it own traditional currency. You have the wrong idea about how bitcoin is being used there. They are still using USD as the base currency. This is why IMF suggested El salvador to not use bitcoin but instead work on creating a stable financial system. Bitcoin's role isn't to work as a currency for a nation. It will fail due to its volatile nature. It could never work, even if everyone(somehow magically) started transacting with bitcoin then the network will simple fail. Bitcoin wasn't made for this. Maybe lightning network or a new L2 solution similar to LN. But it still won't solve the problem of volatility. Imagine a leader of a sovereign country failing to grasp such basic concepts. If he had used BTC LN instead, then it could have been a different story. I wouldn't be pissed either because that would be the correct adoption. |
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I have said my piece. If I was running a business on google ads, then I would reach out to my friends and family & would rather pay them 20 USD daily for their account. They would be happy to help expand my business and in return earn some passive income too. Or I would set up an LLC(new business) in a different state under my name & ownership. And probably it won't even break google's terms since it's a new business(still DYOR). There are many ways to do this. Personally, I would never create multiple accounts. Since one account on all platforms has always been enough for me. I can raise CPC, to get a better placement or offer better service. Or branch to some other platform to advertise my product. But when a new account comes offering 20 USD via cryptocurrency to use their google account for running an ad, it sure as hell doesn't look good given how many scams run on google ads. |
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Appreciate the warning, but there are lots of ways to avoid that (wont mention any of those).
And yeah, it's too risky and horrible act, yet lots of people did it already so it's up to them risking their accounts since the OP mentioned the risks of doing things against some service's TOS.
Yes, there are. if OP's use case is genuine, and they are being truthful then let's talk about it a little. From their post, they want multiple accounts to put multiple advertisements on one keyword. This means that the keyword is competitive (because there won't be any need if the keyword wasn't competitive, to begin with). Which case would be more beneficial to drive more profit ? Case A: Increasing the budget by 5~10% to get more clicks and a higher ranking for a good CTR on an already established ad with learned data on google's side. Focussing on improving your site's conversion rate. Case B: Creating new websites for each new account, managing those websites, and managing those accounts just to compete with your ad to drive the CPC even higher + making each ad account go through the learning phase(it takes time for any ad to reach an optimal level, since google AdWords takes time to learn about your ad's behavior) which won't give you the same conversion in the beginning and you will probably lose money in the beginning  or, as I said earlier, Case C: They are definitely running blackhat ads. |
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I just made a new LLC so i'll gladly do it for ya send me a DM looking forward transacting!
Please be wary. They will definitely run blackhat ads, which will land you in legal trouble. And you will probably be suspended from using google ads ever again for life. It's not worth risking your rep with google(since google adwords can be an invaluable tool if you ever start your own business) and credit for 20 dollars. I dont know how it was categorized a blackhat ads by you, but if anyone who wants to work with OP can use a dummy google account to make google ad campaign offered by the OP, then it easy to say that it's a risk-free. I just think its a too good to be true daily offer for a one time task. A Dummy account won't protect you. Google can still connect you. Once you get banned on one account, you can't run any ads in the future on any of your accounts ever. This is probably why OP is outsourcing and wants someone else's account to run their ads. And it's pretty much obvious that they want to run blackhat or illegal ads(paying through anonymous channel to run ads on someone else's identity without proving their own). It's very easy to exploit someone who isn't aware of the downsides. I hope that my post will act as a warning. If OP isn't running blackhat, then I request Op to post their advertising keywords publicly(only the keywords). And if someone wants to participate in this, make sure that the OP doesn't change their keyword on your account(this can easily be tracked from account history), and isn't different from what's posted here or add new keywords. This is the only safe way.Else you are at risk of getting into legal trouble https://www.hackread.com/crooks-steal-28m-in-crypto-using-google-adwords-spoofed-domains/ |
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I just made a new LLC so i'll gladly do it for ya send me a DM looking forward transacting!
Please be wary. They will definitely run blackhat ads, which will land you in legal trouble. And you will probably be suspended from using google ads ever again for life. It's not worth risking your rep with google(since google adwords can be an invaluable tool if you ever start your own business) and credit for 20 dollars. |
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Thank you all for a great week, payment is on the way!  Got it, thanks for the prompt payment! |
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كيف سيعرف البنك انها منصة بيناس؟ حسب ما فهمت فان الاموال تم تحويلها عن طريق الند للند بمعني ان ما سيظهر هو ان حسابا ما قام بايداع مبالغ ضخمة في حسابك ومن ثم انت قمت بارسال مبالغ ضخمة لحسابات اشخاص اخرين دون ان يكون لك نشاط في تلك الدولة. انه التعريف اللطيف لغسيل الاموال.
أنا أدرك ذلك لكن يمكنه استخدام ال order history الذي يظهر في اسم و لقب الشخص الذي تعامل معه، و كذلك طريقة الدفع. هذا فرضا أن للحساب البنكي نفس الاسم المستخدم في بينانس (و الذي بالمناسبة هو الواجب التأكد منه عند كل معاملة) ففي حال استخدامك لل بايبال مثلا، ان كان اسم الشخص الذي أنت بصدد التعامل معه في المنصة ليس هو نفسه الشخص الذي استقبلت منه الأموال، هذه red flag. حتى بينانس تطلب من مستخدميها التأكد من مثل هذه الأمور. I am helping him out by going through his trades and bank statements. When I compared those transactions with his Binance ledger he did accept 3rd party payments lol I don't what was he thinking he's in deep trouble i guess haha
أنا أساعده في الخروج من خلال تصفح صفقاته وكشوفاته المصرفية. عندما قارنت هذه المعاملات مع دفتر الأستاذ الخاص به في Binance ، فقد قبل مدفوعات الطرف الثالث لول لا أفعل ما كان يفكر فيه هوه في ورطة عميقة أعتقد هاها |
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You should post this on the scam accusation thread and not here. But since you are a new member, no worries. The mods will do it for you. Going through the attached screenshots now. I would suggest everyone not to draw any conclusions until duelbits.com provide an official explanation I was too early to draw my conclusion in a similar case once, not gonna repeat the same mistake here lol |
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zzzz still down  Maybe someone should create a clone until the real thing comes back? I will try creating one next week(if it isn't back by then), at least for my own personal use. I really miss the live price indicator on a chrome tab  |
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