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241  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL has Black Friday SALE!!! Be careful on: November 27, 2013, 11:09:29 AM
I got that by e-mail.

They must still love me!  Kiss

Heh, heh.................

I was banned from the BFL forums but they still send me offers, including this one.

Will it never end?

My $.02.

Wink
I'm sure that's Dave getting you back for giving him "the Knife" as a handle
242  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance. on: November 24, 2013, 12:25:53 PM
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Just one more way bfl is fucking over customers. Lots of us paid for the upgrade to 7GH. Than they gave it to just about everyone, paid for our not. The only 5 GH units apparently had bad chips. You got lucky. So enjoy using your free upgrade to help make the one I paid for less valuable.

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/1r7la0/finally_got_my_2_jalapenos_from_bfl_but_they_seem/cdkf3sf
Gotta quote this one for posterity!  Epic fail Bick... the guy bought 2 Jalapenos that were... wait for it... running TOO FAST!  Damn dude, read!
243  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: November 23, 2013, 10:52:34 PM
Why is there now a growing trend of people who got their products describing failures and underperformance?

At what point do you people actually get what is pretty obvious for most that bought BFL that the company is just a joke.
Growing trend lol.  Damn Bick, you fail so hard sometimes I can't enough catch my breath from laughing.  Have you ever stopped to consider the % is still the same, it's just the amount shipped has increased and that just makes it LOOK like it's increasing?  But that would mean BFL is shipping more than you expected and that's something you will never believe in.
244  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: November 23, 2013, 02:12:30 PM
You always did like skewed results.

 ... Not sure if lacks self-awareness, or if trolling ...


In his case both.


Typical response from you.  How's your latest piggyback scheme going?  You can't seem to get a reliable chip source, so now you're just making a board and forcing the customers to take the responsibility to get their chips.  Guess those who can, do, those who can't, make boards to sell.
245  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BitForce Single SC 60GH/s mining lower on: November 23, 2013, 11:39:54 AM
My Single SC finally arrived after so many months of waiting.
Results though are not as expected - it is mining at 54Gh/sec with BFGMiner. I also tried cgminer and results are similar.

Is there any way to tweak it?

Yeah they're official 50Gh/s miners now. You have to take the risk of over clocking it 60GH/s yourself!

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/50-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html

I bought the 60Gh/s mate not the 50Gh/s one when they were still around :-)
Have you tied connecting it to another computer or even switching it to a different USB port?  I know my unit works better on my laptop for some strange reason.
246  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: November 23, 2013, 11:27:19 AM
http://www.relevantinsights.com/research-tools

Using these tools...

A sample size of 200 people, margin of error is 3.1% based on 100,000 customers.

Hmmm interesting.

A randomly chosen sampling of the entire population, which unfortunately we do not have.  However, the general sentiment of those present does appear to be clear.


Random as you get right?

You can vote or not vote.
You always did like skewed results.
247  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: November 19, 2013, 01:47:40 AM
He is right though, why would anyone who has problems come here and bitch and moan instead of going to the proper place?


How many thousands of complaints does one have to read and delete or ignore before people get fed up and report it to the FTC or the AG in Kansas.

Remarkably you want to ignore the plight of 100s who have had to fight tooth and nail to get refunds and still 100s more who are still expecting BFL to refund them according to FTC regulations.

Why do you continually ignore the plight of 100s of people?

Obviously you are being "paid" in some manner to defend BFL as no one can be that obtuse or sociopathic when it comes to the financial pain of hundreds who have every right to expect refunds. At this point it there is little evidence to support that BFL is a reputable supplier of ASIC mining equipment. They refused to provide refunds. Their own website is purposefully using double speak and unclear really on when these next units will ship. Coupled with a ALL SALES ARE FINAL stipulation should warn off everyone from anything BFL. There are plenty of other competitors that will ship, that have shipped and who have rightly and honestly given refunds.
 
Sad... just sad. You and Inaba are not going to fool anyone here with this diatribe. BFL will get a 28nm out to the market behind at least 3 or 4 other fabricators given their own timeline.

DO NOT BUY BFL PRODUCTS. SIMPLE SOLUTIONS FOR US ALL. Especially when it won't make a dime.


Sorry, but 99.99% of the complaints *I* see boil down to "Wah, wah, wah, my money making machine won't make the money I thought it would, I want a refund".  You point to yourself as a paragon of virtue in having refunded your hapless customers when you couldn't deliver, but you were able to get a refund yourself on the chips you only bought and did not have to create from scratch.  You had no research or development costs, you just piggybacked on the success of others and so it was easy for you to refund since you bore little of the expense.  You obviously disagree, but these are basically special orders being made.  Orders were taken and quantities of product were bought to satisfy those orders.  Unlike you, they can't call up the chip foundry and ask for a refund on chips they no longer need due to refunds.  As had been stated MANY times, refunds were allowed up until they started full production.  They even had it mandatory that you had to agree to the terms or by default you'd be refunded.

Sorry dude, but I could care less about people and their greed having buyers remorse.  I did my research before buying and I've made several BTC while waiting for my purchase to be filled and have turned those into even more with judicious market management.  Looking at the blogs, my Jalapeno should ship soon and at current rates I'll be making ~$4 a day.  To me that's a win as I'll be making more with it than I was with my GPU when I placed my order and it'll cost me a LOT less for power usage.

Face it dude, you're just a broken record stuck on the same tune over and over again.  Maybe you need to go relax, take a vacation, all this hate must be causing your blood pressure to rise to unhealthy levels. 
248  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: November 18, 2013, 01:34:20 AM

He is right though, why would anyone who has problems come here and bitch and moan instead of going to the proper place?  Obviously to created FUD.  The guy that goes on about the power supply over and over is obviously one of these since a replacement could be gotten by RMAing the bad one, but hey, why do that when you can act like stated above and show your true colors in the process?

Bick... you're too hung up on asking about things I am not involved in, I'm not exactly on the board of directors nor am I an engineer working on the designs, so how could I know the answers to your questions?  As to the bets, 10BTC is more than I care to wager even if it were a 'sure thing' cause even sure things fail now and again (kinda like BPM).
249  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: November 17, 2013, 01:32:18 PM
You seem to fail to see they've cleared the bigest hurdle... Mar/Apr.  They'll be done LONG before March 2014... heck, they'll even be done before the end of the year.  I'll bet you 1BTC right now that they'll be done before Dec 15th.

You wait until they're almost done with the backlog, then you offer a very lenient date. Josh has already stated they'll be finished 10 days before that date. Wow, such a risky bet for you!

Where was your bet when they promised clearing pre-orders in Aug?
Where was your bet when they promised clearing pre-orders in Sep?
Where was your bet when they promised clearing pre-orders in Oct?

I'll offer you a better bet.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/monarch/

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November / December    Initial Shipping

They're still advertising a November shipping date. I'll bet you 10 BTC they don't ship a Monarch in November.
You whine at me about a 'safe bet' (He actually said 2 weeksTM, which is more like before Thanksgiving from when he said it) yet I swear it has already been stated that it won't ship in November, looks like you just want a safe bet as well. 
250  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: November 16, 2013, 09:45:06 PM

So the Friday update looks like this:

Friday, November 15,2013 Shipping Update

Jalapenos 5 gh/s: May 24, 2013

Little Singles 25 gh/s and 30 Upgrades: May 14, 2013

Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: April 25, 2013 pay date

MiniRigs: Now shipping Nov 2013 , All June 2012-October 2013 MiniRig orders complete.


Which leaves the burning question:

WHO IN THE HELL ORDERED A MINIRIG IN NOVEMBER OF 2013 THAT NEEDS SHIPPING?

p.s. still haven't cleared April. Monday as I predicted.




Wow, the little singles jumped forward about 2.5 weeks.  Kinda shoots a hole in your March 2014 prediction.  The minirig also shoots a hole in your SALES....STOPPED lol.


You can never say "Sales Stopped" when folks like you are around. You take it as a literal when clearly there are folks (like yourself) who would still pay $22k for 500gh in November.


Further, March 2014 was based on clearing ALL backorders, which is inclusive of the 6+ months they still have to ship. Josh missed the "Clear April orders" by 118 days.......... so close!!
You seem to fail to see they've cleared the bigest hurdle... Mar/Apr.  They'll be done LONG before March 2014... heck, they'll even be done before the end of the year.  I'll bet you 1BTC right now that they'll be done before Dec 15th.
251  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: November 16, 2013, 10:59:52 AM

So the Friday update looks like this:

Friday, November 15,2013 Shipping Update

Jalapenos 5 gh/s: May 24, 2013

Little Singles 25 gh/s and 30 Upgrades: May 14, 2013

Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: April 25, 2013 pay date

MiniRigs: Now shipping Nov 2013 , All June 2012-October 2013 MiniRig orders complete.


Which leaves the burning question:

WHO IN THE HELL ORDERED A MINIRIG IN NOVEMBER OF 2013 THAT NEEDS SHIPPING?

p.s. still haven't cleared April. Monday as I predicted.




Wow, the little singles jumped forward about 2.5 weeks.  Kinda shoots a hole in your March 2014 prediction.  The minirig also shoots a hole in your SALES....STOPPED lol.
252  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNC 16 nm VS BFL Monarch update on: November 13, 2013, 09:40:01 AM
ROFL

KNC NEWS :::: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63


So BFL ... you get an Update ?
KNC too but knc think about an 16 / 20 nm Structur



"Currently almost 70% of all Bitcoins mined today are being created upon KnCMiner hardware, distributed to customers in over 120 countries globally." - KNC


Hmmm.... wonder what Josh would have to say about that?
Personally, I call shenanigans.  5PH currently on the network, 70% = 3.5PH.  ~23% or 1.15PH is on the Ghash.io site, leaving .35PH for everyone else.  BFL has shipped more than Ghash.io at this point, meaning KnC couldn't have more than 54%.  So sad even the haters can't do proper math.


LOL! Amazing you have a one way shenanigans detector right? Where is your evidence to SUPPORT your claims they shipped more?


Let us focus on do they have the Monarch chip taped out... right?

Have they now in November taped out the chip they promised tape out in August?

That would be much more relevant a discussion. Have you called shenanigans on the Tape Out for the Monarch chip yet? Didn't we see something similar with the other ASICs?
Since I can neither prove nor disprove tape out, I cannot make a call on it.  I laugh at you and your broken record bleating daily.  Personally, if I were Josh, I woukd never release the information if I had Tape Out 2 months ago just because people like you will keep the company name page one on here bleating about it.  You provide far more advertising due to lack of information than the ads you and others whine so much about being on the forums here.

As to evidence, use your common sense dude.  From the website where people had input their orders, it's clear that March/April were ~50% of BFL's total order book.  Since they are 1/2 way through April on the largest order items and many have already agreed that BFL's total orderbook was in the neighborhood of 3PH, simple logic shows that KnC's claims are complete and utter BS.  Several months ago people kept ascribing the hash provided by BFL to Avalon until they learned that Avalon failed to deliver.  Now KnC is making claims that are so patently false that people like you should be raving like the mad dogs you are over their lying, yet you take it in stride because your stuck on your favorite hate target.  Face it, you have a closed mind and can only hate on one target, so continue your free advertising and I'll continue laughing in the background.
253  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNC 16 nm VS BFL Monarch update on: November 13, 2013, 01:22:41 AM
ROFL

KNC NEWS :::: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63


So BFL ... you get an Update ?
KNC too but knc think about an 16 / 20 nm Structur



"Currently almost 70% of all Bitcoins mined today are being created upon KnCMiner hardware, distributed to customers in over 120 countries globally." - KNC


Hmmm.... wonder what Josh would have to say about that?
Personally, I call shenanigans.  5PH currently on the network, 70% = 3.5PH.  ~23% or 1.15PH is on the Ghash.io site, leaving .35PH for everyone else.  BFL has shipped more than Ghash.io at this point, meaning KnC couldn't have more than 54%.  So sad even the haters can't do proper math.
254  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: October 21, 2013, 12:58:23 AM
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at least you others can learn from BFL's mistakes of the leaders. even when BFL can't

FTFH

A startup comes out of nowhere, gives BFL a one-year head start, and out-hashes BFL in less than a month.

Meanwhile, BFL will be trickling year-old 5GH and 30GH units for the next six months. 

Sometime in March, 2014, BFL may start shipping units that KnC is shipping today. 

What will the difficulty be in March relative to today?  4x?  6x?  8x? 

Seemingly it's quantum physics for shills to understand. Anyhow not our target audience. Let's hope we can save some poor souls a lot of financial anguish.
I do get things wrong now and then... I predicted 1PH by Sept 1st for example.  I also predicted 3PH before Oct 1st.  Guess I had too much faith in Bitfury, KnC, BPM, Cointerra, etc.  Looks like my 6PH before Nov will soon fall by the wayside as well.  I'd say it sucks to be wrong, but I'm making more money this way Cheesy
255  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: October 20, 2013, 01:42:44 PM
 They were actually having pizza for lunch that day that had been purchased and sent in from a customer.

LOL!
I cant begin to imagine the kind of pizza most BFL customers would want to send there.

I bet they have a "taster" for all of Josh's meals sent by "fans" of the company.

BCP might have found a new job... seeing as how the kool aid hasn't got him yet.


That'd be an awesome job if they paid for my mileage as well!  Even at $.20 a mile I'd make out like a bandit!
256  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: October 20, 2013, 01:23:56 PM
Stuff it down your shill pie hole  Tongue

Continuing to defend the indefensible.

Every time a new asic miner hardware company brings a real (and their first) tangible miner to market in less than 6 months (Bitfury, KnC) is irrefutable proof of either BFL's complete incompetence or pure nefarious reasons no one outside the elite BFL scumbag circle will know.

The sad part is all those BFL victims with their money (BTC, bank wire transfers) stolen from them by BFL forced to wait excessively  while hundreds of 60 G/h  were being liquidated at auction for 2.2 BTC and being shipped out right now by Avalon.

Even small time asic main board designers and fabricators like Mr. Teal and his Chilliboards just add insult to injury for the countless excuses and delays invented by the BFL FUD posse
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I'm sorry Mr. Troll, I didn't understand what you are trying to say.  Maybe if you spoke about things you know rather than things you speculate about I could understand you better.
257  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: October 20, 2013, 01:20:20 PM
You're working off a statement made almost a month and a half ago when they only had 1 assembly room... but hey, it's BFL, they never change, right?  I heard the record was well over 600 units, but I'm sure you'll take that with a grain of salt as well.

I think part of the problem here is you fail to understand this is not a 1 person operation from start to finish.  You need the programmers, the card assemblers, the unit assemblers, the case assemblers, the final assemblers, QA and the testers.  If all they had to do was flash a card and ship it like some companies (IF they had chips <cough BPM cough>), they'd not need 80% of the people. 

You don't have to convince me that BFL has the worst, most complicated, slow assembly process.

You also don't have to convince me that things may have gotten better but they weren't smart enough to communicate it to their customers.

So just curious when you were there, there were 16 assemblers. Who/how exactly have you been kept up to date on the addition of assemblers and the fact that they got over 600 built once or twice.
Who shared that data with you?

I don't doubt what you say, I am just curious who shared it with you.

Technically, no one, as I actually saw it myself on their board.  I was in KC recently and stopped in to talk to Josh one day.  They are up to 4 assembly rooms, not counting the off-site Jalapenos.  They were actually having pizza for lunch that day that had been purchased and sent in from a customer.
258  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: October 19, 2013, 08:28:24 PM
Allow me to repost the totally bogus order depths chart that can't possibly be anything near reality and that in no way, shape or form suggests that shipping progress hits a wall in mid-late March. It also totally doesn't suggest that we've only made it 50%-60% of the way to the end of April's backorders.



There's actually a wall in the last week of March that extends into April and ends in May, so if they're still at 50 or 60 employees today, the backlog could be stuck at 200+ days for the next few weeks.

50 or 60?? Where did you get that number?

There are EXACTLY 16 people assembling hardware.  SIXTEEN

They won't hire more because the parts trickle in the door and assembled units trickle out the door.

By the time people who ordered gear in July/August of 2013 get theirs they will be like Block erupters.


Sixteen huh?  You sound really sure about that, too bad you're wrong.

There's 16 in just the one assembly room, another 12 in the 2nd room, and 8 each in the 3rd and 4th rooms.  Not to mention the Jalapeno's are outsourced, so there's even more assemblers there.


Well I stand corrected, however my knowledge came from you when you said (paraphrasing) when you (or maybe it was PG) mentioned they hired 8 more to double their assembly team.


So (even more sad now) you are saying that they have 44 people doing assembly?

Did they ever reach 400 units a day? Hey with 44 people, making 9 units a day should be pretty easy.



You're working off a statement made almost a month and a half ago when they only had 1 assembly room... but hey, it's BFL, they never change, right?  I heard the record was well over 600 units, but I'm sure you'll take that with a grain of salt as well.

I think part of the problem here is you fail to understand this is not a 1 person operation from start to finish.  You need the programmers, the card assemblers, the unit assemblers, the case assemblers, the final assemblers, QA and the testers.  If all they had to do was flash a card and ship it like some companies (IF they had chips <cough BPM cough>), they'd not need 80% of the people. 
259  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: October 19, 2013, 12:01:31 AM
Allow me to repost the totally bogus order depths chart that can't possibly be anything near reality and that in no way, shape or form suggests that shipping progress hits a wall in mid-late March. It also totally doesn't suggest that we've only made it 50%-60% of the way to the end of April's backorders.



There's actually a wall in the last week of March that extends into April and ends in May, so if they're still at 50 or 60 employees today, the backlog could be stuck at 200+ days for the next few weeks.

50 or 60?? Where did you get that number?

There are EXACTLY 16 people assembling hardware.  SIXTEEN

They won't hire more because the parts trickle in the door and assembled units trickle out the door.

By the time people who ordered gear in July/August of 2013 get theirs they will be like Block erupters.


Sixteen huh?  You sound really sure about that, too bad you're wrong.

There's 16 in just the one assembly room, another 12 in the 2nd room, and 8 each in the 3rd and 4th rooms.  Not to mention the Jalapeno's are outsourced, so there's even more assemblers there.
260  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitcoin Lost due to KNC's Late Shipping on: October 16, 2013, 10:30:36 AM
Not to excuse KnC, but imagine trying to calculate the BTC "lost" due to Avalon's late shipping, or :ahem: BFL's...
The funny part about this is that a lot of people ended up making MORE BTC by BFL's late shipping.  If BFL had shipped on time and at the quantities stated last October, difficulty would have spiked faster than it has lately and you'd have had a year of little to no earnings compared to what you did get.  I calculated that an FPGA Single mining from Oct 1 to the date the first actual single shipped and then that single mining until today would have made about 12% more BTC compared to a rough guess at BFL's orderbook and a 60Gh single delivered Oct 1 would have made to date.
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