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2401  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) on: September 09, 2012, 03:32:31 AM

Fuck it, why not. Apparently hashking and imsaguy have defaulted and will take 3 years to repay.


WTF ? Did they state that on the forum ?

I seriously can't keep up with all the info tidbits on a daily basis around here.
This 'Pirate thing' is going to deal a serious blow to the community in the end....as I fear it's far from over, as more and more stones keep getting overturned daily, revealing new 'truths' to previous speculation.

This makes me sick.

Yesterday.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66802.msg1171625#msg1171625
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60117.msg1165301#msg1165301

Almost makes you think just sending your money to anonymous people on the internet is a bad idea.
2402  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) on: September 09, 2012, 03:15:18 AM
Is it stated anywhere how long the losing side has to complete payments?

No. Technically he could lose the bet and not pay anything for a hundred years  Smiley

Fuck it, why not. Apparently hashking and imsaguy have defaulted and will take 3 years to repay.

2403  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions on: September 09, 2012, 02:58:14 AM
ridiculous restrictions are forcing newbies to post spam messages like this one. An alternative is needed..

Post some if you got em.  And spam messages like this one aren't a problem, it's the spammers (not just bots either) and trolls.
2404  Other / Meta / Re: New administrator: Stefan Thomas on: September 09, 2012, 01:24:39 AM
Nice, seems like a solid choice.

Now you get to read the dramaboring threads in the staff forum!
2405  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) on: September 09, 2012, 01:16:07 AM
I've only been around bitcoin land since july. The drama is just too funny, and never ending.  Cheesy

Hell yeah.


 
2406  Other / Off-topic / Re: pirateat40's project with BZFlag tank battle game. [Message to bitlane] on: September 09, 2012, 12:18:09 AM
Quote
it's a message to bitcointalk.org
shoutout to bitlane
this is the real deal gentlemen
he can feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing his coins are helping bzflag

There's no proof it's actually Pirate though, could be anybody.
2407  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Recommended Client? on: September 08, 2012, 09:54:50 PM
Thanks for the input guys - I'm scared of keeping my wallet online because of what I've read.

I'm going to try out Electrum... I dislike Java.

Can't blame you for that, I only use it for small amounts myself.
2408  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Recommended Client? on: September 08, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
I use blockchain.info for minor amounts. Not really a client, online wallet but good for newbies.
2409  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello ~!! PM not working on: September 08, 2012, 09:01:15 PM
You need one post in order to PM. So after you post about not being able to pm, you can pm  Wink.
2410  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Is pirate considered a scammer by Bitcoin community*? Poll:vote/view results on: September 08, 2012, 08:58:35 PM
I thought the deal with pirate was something like this.

Give me btc at 7% a week interest with no insurance or guarantee on your deposit. I won't tell you specifically what it's used for and if i default you lost your btc. Deal? Ok thanks.

Am i missing something? I don't see what all the uproar is about.

He said he had everyone's money, promised to pay back, then disappeared? Not hard to figure out why people are annoyed.

Read this and enlighten yourself, instead of making stuff up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101339.0
2411  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [POLL] Should the PPTs for BTCST be held at least partially responsible? on: September 08, 2012, 08:56:48 PM
I wonder how the answer changes, if pirate turns out to be a zeek rewards passthrou as suspected.

It doesn't, because he never said he was a passthrough for another not-a-ponzi scheme. These guys did. Pirate claimed to have his own business scheme.

If he had said he was a passthrough for Zeek I suspect the answers would be different, yes.
2412  Other / Off-topic / Re: (POLL!) Will Matthew pay out on his 80k BTC bet? on: September 08, 2012, 05:47:41 PM
He settled that issue I don't see why there should be prejudice against him for it. Life's too short to hold grudges for shit that's in the past.

Then why ban people?  Give them xx days suspended and then forget about it.

That is exactly what happens actually, bans are usually temporary. Would probably be more accurate to call them probations but that's kind of condescending. Once someone returns from a ban I hold no ill will for any of them, they did their time and hopefully are a better poster for it.
2413  Other / Off-topic / Re: (POLL!) Will Matthew pay out on his 80k BTC bet? on: September 08, 2012, 05:33:41 PM
For the record, I voted: "Shut the fuck up about Matt, you're just feeding his ego"

Me too.

Its not the first time hes had a scammer label. he even got promoted to staff after having it. I expect pirateat40 to be global moderator here soon.

He settled that issue I don't see why there should be prejudice against him for it. Life's too short to hold grudges for shit that's in the past.
2414  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [POLL] Should the PPTs for BTCST be held at least partially responsible? on: September 08, 2012, 04:17:56 PM
No, they were honest about just being pass throughs to Pirate.

However, some of them implying they knew his business model and saying it wasn't a ponzi, which is definitely misleading to their customers.
2415  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) on: September 08, 2012, 04:15:34 PM
Hummmm, is this kind of format trickery in place in the original wording of the bet, wherever that is now?

No formatting besides code and bold, and nothing hidden in them. You can quote this post and look through it yourself.

Don't think pirate will payout as promised?
If you truly believe that Pirate is a scam/ponzi, then this is a no-brainer easy money for you.

Post in this thread how much you're committing and I will double that amount you commit (maximum of 10,000BTC in bets allowed in this thread total) if Pirate does not pay out in 3 weeks as he described in his thread.

To make your bets easier to read, please stick to the following format:
Code:
20BTC
13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM
Optional comment

The above post would be betting 20BTC that he in fact is not going to payout as described. If I lose the bet, you get 20BTC sent to that address. If you lose, you'll need to send 20BTC to my address.

Anyone (including myself) who renigs on their bets will be labeled a scammer on the forums. Theymos will retain the IP addresses of everyone who has committed here and as you are marked a scammer for not paying, you will also be reported to the bitcoin police and tracked. For this reason, it is important that you do not bet more than you can afford to lose. Considering the high probability of fraud from newbie sockpuppets, only established 100+ post users will be allowed to participate.

The minimum commitment is 0.1BTC. The maximum is 100BTC per person.

Disclaimer: Although I think pirate is a high risk venture due to a complete lack of transparency on his part, I am sorely reminded that the forum needs to be taught a lesson when it comes to crying wolf on things without evidence. It's getting sickening. "SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!". So put your money where your mouth and bet for a better bitcoin forum/community overall.


For the record, the address to remit your funds to if you indeed lose is 13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM

Thank you and good luck!

I reserve the right to lock this thread and stop accepting additional bets at any time. All existing bets in the thread will still be honored regardless.
Pirate's post he's referring to.

After much consideration, I’ve decided to close down Bitcoin Savings & Trust.  

Why?
The decision was based on the general size and overall time required to manage the transactions.  As the fund grew there were larger and larger coin movements which put strain on my reserve accounts and ultimately caused delays on withdraws and the inability to fund orders within my system.  On the 14th I made a final attempt to relieve pressure off the system by reducing the rates I offered for deposits.  In a perfect world this would allow me to hold more coins in reserve outside the system, but instead it only exponentially increased the amount of withdrawals overnight causing mass panic from many of my lenders.

So now what?
I’ve spoken with my clients over the last week and come to an agreement that would allow me to close down my operation within a week.  Currently my reserve (operating wallets) are drained from fulfilling the withdraw spree that happened after the rate drop announcement.  All withdraws at this point will be delayed until Monday when the shutdown process begins..  

At this point I will no longer accept deposits.  Any coins sent into the system as of now will be returned immediately.

When will I get my coins?
Starting Monday I’ll begin systematically closing and withdrawing accounts as coins are transferred.  I don't expect the entire process to last longer than a week. The moment your account is closed you’ll receive your coins plus any interest accrued up to the hour it was sent.

Thanks
I’d like to thank all of my lenders and PPT operators that were a key element in making Bitcoin Savings & Trust a success.  Bitcoin has grown a lot since I started this and want you to know that you were a vital part in helping it grow.

Now, I have a lot of work to do. Stay Tuned

-pirate

BTW, this is all bitlane’s fault.  (j/k you nut)

2416  Other / Meta / Re: India sub forum on: September 08, 2012, 04:13:32 PM
I have noticed that a lot of people from India are trying to get closer relations.

I don't see this, can you link them?
2417  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [PENDING] Scammer: Matthew N. Wright on: September 08, 2012, 04:05:56 PM
Does Pirate already started to pay back everyone?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101339.0

The only person who has said he's paid anything back is Pirate, nobody else has stepped up to confirm it, so just more bullshit.
2418  Other / Off-topic / Re: pirateat40's project with BZFlag tank battle game. [Message to bitlane] on: September 08, 2012, 03:01:41 PM
I highly doubt that's actually Pirate, more likely someone trolling for laughs.
2419  Other / Off-topic / Re: erase me my account on: September 08, 2012, 01:09:42 PM
Is this guy banned? I hope so Roll Eyes



Will be shortly. Too bad he couldn't handle a little heat.
2420  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions on: September 08, 2012, 12:19:58 PM




Not sure how much more clear it can be. There's also a sticky thread. 
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