Note: this is only the tip of the iceberg... you also cannot eat meat and dairy in the same meal, etc... it's kinda spread throughout different books of the bible... God wasn't very organized when he wrote all those books...
Why did God need to repeat this law 3 times? Wouldn't a perfect God write it perfectly the first time?
perhaps you could show us the verses that say we can't eat meat and milk together. Once again, the meaning was lost in translation from Hebrew to English... If the bible is perfect, why are there thousands of different denominations who interpret the words differently? The real question is why would a perfect God need to repeat his command 3 times (using the exact same words)? Speaking of redundancy in the bible... why is the creation story duplicated? In Genesis 1, God created man and women together, both from the dust of the Earth... but in Genesis 2, he created man first, then he created woman out of man's rib... why the minor change in storyline? Why do Catholics believe in a different set of 10 commandments than protestant Christians? |
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I did not write this vile book.
You didn't read it either, by your own admission. So why should anyone listen to your opinion about it? You don't know what you're talking about. There is plenty of information available to you, showing that everything in the Bible is true and correct. If you choose to reject that information, I can't force you to tell the truth about it. Translation: Pot: " Hey Kettle... you're black" There are generally 2 common themes among Christians... hypocrisy, and ignorance... How many times has this guy already claimed something as fact that we have proven false? His first post was that we never referenced the bible (proving he didn't even bother to read the whopping 20 posts on the thread before making such a foolish reply) I'm still waiting to see a single Christian that can articulate anything that is actually in the bible... so far, everything they assume about their own religion is false... it's like none of them have read the bible... |
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Until you can post a single verse from the Bible saying that we're not allowed to eat meat and milk together,
please don't waste everyone's time any more by pretending to tell the truth.
Those silly Jews must not know what they are talking about then, eh? It's a shame they wrote the bible since they don't understand how to interpret the words... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_and_meat_in_Jewish_lawLogic would suggest that perhaps there is an error in the translation into English... and the Jews, who wrote the original Hebrew Bible... understand it better than you? |
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Here is the first one: 2 Kings 6:29King James Version (KJV)
29 So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son. You can fact check all others yourself. Maybe something in my list is incorrect. Post which one is incorrect, and I'll update the list. No problem. That is incorrect, because it's supposed to be a list of crazy things that the Bible condones or commands. This is just a true story about someone doing something wrong, and it is understood that it is wrong. By objecting to this story, you are the one who seems to be condoning cannibalism. The Bible says cannibalism is wrong, and you say that's "crazy". Maybe you need professional help. Actually, the bible never says cannibalism is wrong... anywhere... And, considering the ruler of the town does not condemn the act of cannibalism, the assumption is that he condones the behavior... I read the passage and there is no mention of any punishment for the cannibalism... it does not even imply that it was immoral or wrong... it implies that the woman who hid her son, after making an agreement to eat the child, was in the wrong... sooooooo evil How about this one? You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters Or this? (full context included for your benefit) 53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the Lord thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:
54 So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave:
55 So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates.
56 The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,
57 And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates. |
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The second I said, but in a completely different context... I was not talking about the prohibition of eating meat and dairy in the same meal... I was speaking of the various food prohibitions in reply to the man asking specifically about shellfish
What is the context for all those quotes from the book of Leviticus? Please stop... you have obviously not read the bible Have you read Leviticus? You should know the context! It's a fucking book of laws! that's what it is... that is the context... (horrible, immoral laws) Leviticus includes such things as taking your unruly child to the edge of town and murdering your own child! Read the fucking book man! It's insidious! |
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Here is the first one: 2 Kings 6:29King James Version (KJV)
29 So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son. You can fact check all others yourself. Maybe something in my list is incorrect. Post which one is incorrect, and I'll update the list. No problem. Holy shit! How did I not know the bible condones cannibalism? |
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Here are some crazy shit Bible says. List is not complete, needs work....
Bible:
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Kings 6:29 - cannibalism
Leviticus 25:44 - slavery
Deuteronomy 13:12-15 - genocide
Leviticus 10:6 - you will die if you rip your clothes
Leviticus 19:19 - breeding cattle is illegal
Leviticus 21 - some bat crazy rules for priests, do not fuck young boys should be somewhere there....
Leviticus 20:10 - killing of adulterers
Leviticus 20:9 - killing children who dishonor mother or father
Leviticus 24:16 - stoning people if they say God's name
Deuteronomy 28:53 - more cannibalism
Genesis 19:8 - prostituting your virgin daughters
Leviticus 19:19 - not mixing two kinds of material for clothing :-)
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 - more stoning for not being a virgin
Exodus 31:14-15 - killing of people who work on Sabbath
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 - cutting off hands
Deuteronomy 23:1 - you'll not go to heaven if your testicles are damaged
Leviticus 19:27 - no haircuts of any kind
Leviticus 19:28 - no tattoos, or else
Leviticus 11:7-8 - eating pork is forbidden
New Testament:
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Matthew 5:29 - plucking out eyes
Matthew 5:30 - cutting off hands
Matthew 10:34 - waging wars by a sword
Corinthians 14:34-35 - women should be quiet and obey
Mark 10:11-12 - only marry once otherwise check Leviticus 20:10 for remedy
Luke 19:26-2 - genocide
Romans 1:20-32 - killing sinners
Revelation 2:5 - more killing
Revelation 2:23 - killing children
Psalm 137:9 - killing babies
You still haven't posted any actual quotes from the Bible, but you've posted plenty of things that are obviously false. Are you certain those claims are false? Have you read the bible?!? Do you have a bible handy? He posted the book, chapter and verse for each claim... lets hear what your bible says... I just looked up some of those verses, and they don't say what he says they say. Is he a liar, or stupid, or just confused? I beg to differ... I have read the bible, and it says what he claims it says... Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. He says genocide, and that's how I interpret the passage... How do you interpret this verse? |
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Then post the Bible verses that say we can't eat milk and meat together.
Otherwise just admit that you're a liar, a hypocrite, and completely wrong and foolish.
You've just told us that God repeated this law 3 times. Why can't you show it even once?
Updated for your convenience: (if you were not so impatient with your reply, you could have waited for me to update the original) Note: this is only the tip of the iceberg... you also cannot eat meat and dairy in the same meal, etc... it's kinda spread throughout different books of the bible... God wasn't very organized when he wrote all those books... The Talmudic rabbis believed that the biblical text only forbade eating a mixture of milk and meat, but because the biblical regulation is triplicated they imposed three distinct regulations to represent it:
not cooking meat and milk together (regardless of whether the result was eaten)
not eating milk and meat together (regardless of whether it was cooked together)
not benefiting from the mixture in any other way Why did God need to repeat this law 3 times? Wouldn't a perfect God write it perfectly the first time? Since you're talking about people who haven't read the Bible, and you're talking about hypocrites, perhaps you could show us the verses that say we can't eat meat and milk together. Unless you're a hypocrite doing the same thing you're accusing other people of doing. Dude... what the fuck don't you understand? The Jews wrote the bible! It's called the HEBREW BIBLEThe first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. Ye shall not eat of anything that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. A better question might be... why is a perfect God, so redundant? So when you said there were 3 different rules, were you confused? When you said it was spread throughout different books of the Bible, you just meant 2 books that said the exact same thing? When did I say either of those things? Let me help you: The first I never said The second I said, but in a completely different context... I was not talking about the prohibition of eating meat and dairy in the same meal... I was speaking of the various food prohibitions in reply to the man asking specifically about shellfish |
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Here are some crazy shit Bible says. List is not complete, needs work....
Bible:
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Kings 6:29 - cannibalism
Leviticus 25:44 - slavery
Deuteronomy 13:12-15 - genocide
Leviticus 10:6 - you will die if you rip your clothes
Leviticus 19:19 - breeding cattle is illegal
Leviticus 21 - some bat crazy rules for priests, do not fuck young boys should be somewhere there....
Leviticus 20:10 - killing of adulterers
Leviticus 20:9 - killing children who dishonor mother or father
Leviticus 24:16 - stoning people if they say God's name
Deuteronomy 28:53 - more cannibalism
Genesis 19:8 - prostituting your virgin daughters
Leviticus 19:19 - not mixing two kinds of material for clothing :-)
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 - more stoning for not being a virgin
Exodus 31:14-15 - killing of people who work on Sabbath
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 - cutting off hands
Deuteronomy 23:1 - you'll not go to heaven if your testicles are damaged
Leviticus 19:27 - no haircuts of any kind
Leviticus 19:28 - no tattoos, or else
Leviticus 11:7-8 - eating pork is forbidden
New Testament:
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Matthew 5:29 - plucking out eyes
Matthew 5:30 - cutting off hands
Matthew 10:34 - waging wars by a sword
Corinthians 14:34-35 - women should be quiet and obey
Mark 10:11-12 - only marry once otherwise check Leviticus 20:10 for remedy
Luke 19:26-2 - genocide
Romans 1:20-32 - killing sinners
Revelation 2:5 - more killing
Revelation 2:23 - killing children
Psalm 137:9 - killing babies
You still haven't posted any actual quotes from the Bible, but you've posted plenty of things that are obviously false. Are you certain those claims are false? Have you read the bible?!? Do you have a bible handy? He posted the book, chapter and verse for each claim... lets hear what your bible says... |
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Then post the Bible verses that say we can't eat milk and meat together.
Otherwise just admit that you're a liar, a hypocrite, and completely wrong and foolish.
You've just told us that God repeated this law 3 times. Why can't you show it even once?
Updated for your convenience: (if you were not so impatient with your reply, you could have waited for me to update the original) Note: this is only the tip of the iceberg... you also cannot eat meat and dairy in the same meal, etc... it's kinda spread throughout different books of the bible... God wasn't very organized when he wrote all those books... The Talmudic rabbis believed that the biblical text only forbade eating a mixture of milk and meat, but because the biblical regulation is triplicated they imposed three distinct regulations to represent it:
not cooking meat and milk together (regardless of whether the result was eaten)
not eating milk and meat together (regardless of whether it was cooked together)
not benefiting from the mixture in any other way Why did God need to repeat this law 3 times? Wouldn't a perfect God write it perfectly the first time? Since you're talking about people who haven't read the Bible, and you're talking about hypocrites, perhaps you could show us the verses that say we can't eat meat and milk together. Unless you're a hypocrite doing the same thing you're accusing other people of doing. Dude... what the fuck don't you understand? The Jews wrote the bible! It's called the HEBREW BIBLEThe first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. Ye shall not eat of anything that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. The question remains... why is a perfect God, so redundant? |
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Typical Internet atheist topic.
It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about.
Just ignore all the biblical quotes we keep posting And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. What is "crazy" about the verses you're quoting here? Are you saying Jesus was wrong to speak against hypocrisy? No, I'm calling you a hypocrite for posting, "It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about." Perhaps if you read and understood the biblical passage you just quoted... you would feel embarrassed right now, but I somehow doubt that You obviously missed all the biblical quotes... and you didn't watch the youtube videos because they are 100% relevant... (proving " you don't know what you are talking about") |
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I became Atheist reading first few verses
No you didn't. If you had good reasons, you wouldn't have to lie. Typical Christian tactics... blaming everyone else but themselves for being liars... A man cannot even give his own opinion/testimony without being called a liar? WHAT THE FUCK?!? This is his personal history... Who are you to say he's lying?!? |
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Typical Internet atheist topic.
It's supposed to be about what the Bible says, but instead it's just some Youtube links and a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about.
Just ignore all the biblical quotes we keep posting And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. |
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bible, koran and any other religious stuff says illogical things not just bible but if someone believes these sayings of bible or other stuff's , we should respect to them.. Should I also respect someone who believes in unicorns, Zeus, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy? (at least people who believe in Santa Clause don't tell me, I am evil and Santa will condemn me to hell where I will burn in a lake of fire for all of eternity) I draw the line with respect, when someone loses touch with reality... and then tries to force their delusion upon me |
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Well it's a good extract! I shall just take it out next time someone says "but it's so stupid to see Muslims not eating porks, at least there is nothing like this in the Bible it would be dumb" ^^
Newsflash: Not many Christians have actually read the bible... they have no clue what it says The quickest path to becoming an Atheist is reading the bible... I doubt many Christians would get past Deuteronomy before becoming an Atheist I'm neither Christians nor Atheist but I tried to read the Bible. I never past the page 15. It's probably the worst book ever! A style that could kill you of boredom and absolutely 0 sense or substance! Not to get technical, but if you don't believe in a god... that's the definition of Atheist Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief that any deities exist. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists |
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Well it's a good extract! I shall just take it out next time someone says "but it's so stupid to see Muslims not eating porks, at least there is nothing like this in the Bible it would be dumb" ^^
Newsflash: Not many Christians have actually read the bible... they have no clue what it says beyond the fru-fru stories their preacher cherry-picks for them The quickest path to becoming an Atheist is reading the bible... I doubt many Christians would get past Deuteronomy before becoming an Atheist (I didn't) |
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I didn't click on the links, so this may have been answered, but doesn't the Bible say that we shouldn't eat shellfish?
Land animals: 1 And the Lord spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.
3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
4 Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
5 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you. Note: Hares are rabbits, which do not chew their cud like a cow or camel... God got this animal 100% wrong (also note, a coney is a hare/rabbit... God is redundant with his mistakes) Sea animals: 9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you. Birds: 13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
20 All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.
21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
22 Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
23 But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you. Note: this is only the tip of the iceberg... you also cannot eat meat and dairy in the same meal, etc... it's kinda spread throughout different books of the bible... God wasn't very organized when he wrote all those books... The Talmudic rabbis believed that the biblical text only forbade eating a mixture of milk and meat, but because the biblical regulation is triplicated they imposed three distinct regulations to represent it:
not cooking meat and milk together (regardless of whether the result was eaten)
not eating milk and meat together (regardless of whether it was cooked together)
not benefiting from the mixture in any other way Why did God need to repeat this law 3 times? Wouldn't a perfect God write it perfectly the first time? |
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Oh, my good man, what you don't understand is that while christians hate to be rich, churches themselves are not cheap. Not this might seem like a contradiction of sorts, you have to understand that you can't just pray in a hovel. Good christian feelings only come under certain conditions.
Well even if that was right, there is no reason for the believers to be rich. Why do they have money and don't simply give everything to the church? But in order to be able to give a lot of money to the church, you first have to get rich. That's why they get rich - because they want to be poor. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, defending their private jets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdH2DGSXjssRich Preachers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbu1Joz924oI get the impression that many preachers have not even read the bible... |
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if we can understand what is islam mean we will see islam is a religion of peace.
Yes, Islam is basically a religion of peace but some extremists whose needs are not meant either politically or religiously resort to extreme measures, this is the minority of people I am talking about not all the people of Islam followers. This minority of people should not overwhelm your judgement of the muslim community as a whole, it is pure ignorance to judge the whole community by someone else's actions. But unfortunately this type of mis-judgement is only happening everyday all over the world. That would depend on whether that militant minority was supported by a fair fraction of the total community. This is like saying "Should we judge a 70 year old Muslim lady because a 34 year old Muslim from her town blows up a cafe full of innocent tourists?" Yes, if she supports his efforts. Yes, judge the entire town, if they support his efforts. So, if a country were, for example, using drones to murder people by the tens of thousands... 90% of which are not the intended target, but innocent civilians... Do you not think Muslims have a good reason to be mad at the US? Should Muslims be allowed to kill anyone who supports drone strikes? |
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Most people consider Buddhism to be a philosophy rather than a religion...
Buddhism does not require belief in any specific god, nor does it condone belief in a diety
Buddhism has no sacred texts requiring you to murder heathens/unbelievers...
I'd say it's much less dangerous than religions, and has some interesting texts which can be interpreted on various levels...
Unlike religion, which condemns critical thinking in lieu of faith... Buddhism encourages thinking and reasoning
Mostly harmless, but probably does not have the answers you are looking for
Seconded this.. It actually doesnt matter now whether it's that wrong or not - Buddhism as a religion. But if you think about it, just as long as they are not harming anyone, i think they are safe.. I can't recall a Buddhist ever hurting anyone, or hating fags, or flying a plane into a building, or kicking their children out of the house for being gay/atheist, or trying to teach creationism in schools, or adding "in God we trust" to our money (the irony) & "under God" to the pledge of allegiance, or putting up 10 commandment monuments, or knocking on my door at 9am to tell me that I'm a hateful sinner who will burn in hell for eternity... ... or burning the Library of Alexandria not once or twice, but three times... oh the book burnings... the science lost... sickens me... ... or the Crusades, Inquisition, Witch-Hunts, Dark Ages... [/rant] Buddhists tend to be peaceful people who keep to themselves (probably something to do with that introspection thing they like) |
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