Complete misinterpretation of the findings. I didn't interpret anything... I only asked a question, which you avoided answering...
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#FeelTheBermaid
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one cannot prove that god does not exist. its just that there is no sufficient evidence that god exists. "there is probably no god" is a good enough statement. the same way we cannot prove there is no santa claus but we are convinced enough that there isnt.
What..No santa claus .You got to be an idiot for not believing in santa claus .. I have proof of santa..So who the fuck eats my mincepie when i go to sleep if no santa. Next person who say's no santa claus i will blow up your airport and train station Arrrr i forgot that's like ISLAM..Ok i will just say MERRY CHRISTMAS instead. Oh come on... Santa can't possibly be Jesus... Santa keeps a list of who has been naughty and nice... Jesus keeps a list of who is the most gullible Santa delivers presents to all the good kids every year... Jesus promises presents to the gullible kids only after they dieSanta delivers coal to the naughty kids... Jesus promises fire and brimstone to the non-gullible kids after they die See? There is a huge difference!
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I wouldn't mind seeing Bernie debate a guy who renounced his American citizenship and fled the country rather than pay taxes... wtf is that?!?
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I thought you would be happy about your religious background. Instead you contradict yourself.
Above you said, "... 99% of religious people believe the religion of their parents... ." If you are an evolution believer, aren't fish in the line of our evolutionary "parents?" But if they aren't, what is to go back to the inanimate? Or do you have a limited amount of time you go back when you say that 99% of religious people believe the religion of their parents? What might this limited time might be? One thousand years? 10,000 years? 100,000 years? Why would you set some arbitrary number of years? Or don't you believe in evolution after all? Or is it that you are simply self-contradictory and that your whole atheism is like your evolution... simply something that is a complete fantasy science fiction?
What part of " Obviously, humans invented religion" did you miss? So, where do you want to divide the human from the non-human in the evolutionary line? You can't. Such divisions are all arbitrary. They gotta be there, right? We simply haven't found them, right? There aren't any! I didn't make the line, but scientists have declared that modern humans (homo-erectus) start around 100,000 years ago (based mostly on archaeological evidence from skeletons) Before that it was homo-habilis or something... not human https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolutionI like a good science fiction story. I wish these scientists would stop trying to make their SF into the truth when they have little more than their imagination to back it up as truth. It takes away from all the good science fiction stories that I like when they do this. Isn't is a shame science has all the physical evidence (DNA, skeletons, fruit-flies, etc), and the only thing religion has is some dusty old book?
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I thought you would be happy about your religious background. Instead you contradict yourself.
Above you said, "... 99% of religious people believe the religion of their parents... ." If you are an evolution believer, aren't fish in the line of our evolutionary "parents?" But if they aren't, what is to go back to the inanimate? Or do you have a limited amount of time you go back when you say that 99% of religious people believe the religion of their parents? What might this limited time might be? One thousand years? 10,000 years? 100,000 years? Why would you set some arbitrary number of years? Or don't you believe in evolution after all? Or is it that you are simply self-contradictory and that your whole atheism is like your evolution... simply something that is a complete fantasy science fiction?
What part of " Obviously, humans invented religion" did you miss? So, where do you want to divide the human from the non-human in the evolutionary line? You can't. Such divisions are all arbitrary. They gotta be there, right? We simply haven't found them, right? There aren't any! I didn't make the line, but scientists have declared that modern humans (homo-sapiens) start around 100,000 years ago (based mostly on archaeological evidence from skeletons) Before that it was homo-erectus or something... not human https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
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one cannot prove that god does not exist. its just that there is no sufficient evidence that god exists. "there is probably no god" is a good enough statement. the same way we cannot prove there is no santa claus but we are convinced enough that there isnt.
Minor correction... one cannot prove that no gods exist A person could however prove that a specific god does not exist because the god is self-contradictory or inconsistent with known reality I have 100% confidence in the statement that God, according to the Christian bible, does not exist
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i know a lot of smart people who are atheist but they really struggle with accepting that their so-called free will is illusory.
I know a lot of not smart people who know very well that free will is illusory. Where does that leave us ? Free will is only illusory if god exists... but, since god does not exist, your will is free from god's manipulation The only impediment to your free will is your susceptibility to manipulation (read gullibility)
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Just i never believe fuckin coincidences.
And it just so happens that your particular God you picked out of thousands available, is in fact the true God (in your eyes of course). What a coincidence!! That's not a coincidence... 99% of religious people believe the religion of their parents... should be self-explanatory as to why... If it is as you suggest, because children believe the religion of their parents, where did our first parents get their religion? Obviously, humans invented religion... After that, they tend to cannibalize the previous religion Christianity came from Judaism, which itself came from mystery-cult religions of the Mediterranean region... Christianity stole the pagan holidays of Yule and Easter in order to convert followers, etc... (you get a much better conversion rate if you share major holidays) However, that is not what evolution suggests about religion. Consider. One line of evolution theory suggests something like, that first, before life, there was the inanimate state. Then there was the primordial soup from which life came. Then there was the single-cell microbe. Then there was the fish. Then the fish came onto land and became a land creature. Then the land creature evolved into a higher form of land creature. The brain improved and increased in ability. This creature evolved until there was the modern human being. Where was religion in all this?... Quit being silly... why must you straw-man every argument? Nobody is saying fish have a religion... why do argue such nonsense? Is that all Christianity has to offer? red-herrings? I thought you would be happy about your religious background. Instead you contradict yourself. Above you said, "... 99% of religious people believe the religion of their parents... ." If you are an evolution believer, aren't fish in the line of our evolutionary "parents?" But if they aren't, what is to go back to the inanimate? Or do you have a limited amount of time you go back when you say that 99% of religious people believe the religion of their parents? What might this limited time might be? One thousand years? 10,000 years? 100,000 years? Why would you set some arbitrary number of years? Or don't you believe in evolution after all? Or is it that you are simply self-contradictory and that your whole atheism is like your evolution... simply something that is a complete fantasy science fiction? What part of " Obviously, humans invented religion" did you miss? If you need a lesson in religion and evolution... Religion was invented ~5000 years ago... (spoiler: Christianity was not the first religion) Humans were fish ~500,000,000 years ago... I suppose if you think the world is only 6000 years old, the math works differently?
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Just i never believe fuckin coincidences.
And it just so happens that your particular God you picked out of thousands available, is in fact the true God (in your eyes of course). What a coincidence!! That's not a coincidence... 99% of religious people believe the religion of their parents... should be self-explanatory as to why... If it is as you suggest, because children believe the religion of their parents, where did our first parents get their religion? Obviously, humans invented religion... After that, they tend to cannibalize the previous religion Christianity came from Judaism, which itself came from mystery-cult religions of the Mediterranean region... Christianity stole the pagan holidays of Yule and Easter in order to convert followers, etc... (you get a much better conversion rate if you share major holidays) However, that is not what evolution suggests about religion. Consider. One line of evolution theory suggests something like, that first, before life, there was the inanimate state. Then there was the primordial soup from which life came. Then there was the single-cell microbe. Then there was the fish. Then the fish came onto land and became a land creature. Then the land creature evolved into a higher form of land creature. The brain improved and increased in ability. This creature evolved until there was the modern human being. Where was religion in all this?... Quit being silly... why must you straw-man every argument? Nobody is saying fish have a religion... why do argue such nonsense? Is that all Christianity has to offer? red-herrings?
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When is someone going to update this thread name into English?
"Why do islam hates people?" is sooo kindergarten...
Try "Why does Islam hate people?" or "Why do Muslims hate people?", so I don't assume you are 5 years old
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This is new... https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/712043724830842883www.coindesk.com/roger-ver-bernie-sanders-100000-donation-charityRoger Ver has offered US presidential candidate Bernie Sanders $100,000 in the form of a bitcoin donation he'll make in his name to a charity if he'll engage in a debate with Iraq War veteran and talk show host Adam Kokesh...
Ver takes issue with the payment of taxes as a means to fund the wars Sanders has widely spoken out against. Ver, who renounced his US citizenship, denounced the idea of patriotism and called on the wealthiest 1% of the US population to stop paying taxes.
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I like that republicans are supporting the anti-establishment candidate, I just wish that candidate was not Trump...
Trump is not the lesser of two evils
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It is really a shame that you atheists waste your time on something as ridiculous as the stupidity of atheism.
Mmm, it hasn't gone unnoticed that the person who wastes the most time talking about atheism on this forum is infact................. yourself. And when your tired of rambling on about that, you bore everyone wasting even more time promoting this false god of yours. You really should to get out of the house more. Would do you the world of good. +1 I am an atheist and I don't think about atheism 1/10th as much as BADecker does... The only time I think about atheism is when I come across some asshat talking shit about atheists...
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Just i never believe fuckin coincidences.
And it just so happens that your particular God you picked out of thousands available, is in fact the true God (in your eyes of course). What a coincidence!! That's not a coincidence... 99% of religious people believe the religion of their parents... should be self-explanatory as to why... If it is as you suggest, because children believe the religion of their parents, where did our first parents get their religion? Obviously, humans invented religion... After that, they tend to cannibalize the previous religion Christianity came from Judaism, which itself came from mystery-cult religions of the Mediterranean region... Christianity stole the pagan holidays of Yule and Easter in order to convert followers, etc... (you get a much better conversion rate if you share major holidays)
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