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1541  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: March 29, 2016, 03:45:27 PM
If Adam and Eve had 2 children, Cain and Able...

And, Cain murders Able...

How are we here?

Did Cain have sex with his mother?

Did Adam and Eve have a daughter not mentioned in the bible?

Did Cain have sex with his not-important-enough-to-be-mentioned sister?
1542  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: March 29, 2016, 03:22:28 PM


1543  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BERNIE SANDERS, WEIRDO IN CHIEF on: March 29, 2016, 03:09:29 PM


Jesse Ventura Is Furious Sanders Plans To Endorse Hillary


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Will berniebots support harpy clinton if bernie is her vp?

Selling out.


That would suck and it would probably work Sad  Sanders could be tucked away once Clinton is in and not interfere with the corporate aspect of the one-world project.  Like Dan Quayle.  If she had health problems which could bring him in, he could easily have complementing ones himself.  He doesn't strike me as someone with the wits to watch his own back or even really see what's going on.  If he was given the bully pulpit, he very well could lead the social justice sheep cohort right inside of the multi-national corporate wolves den and not even realize it himself.

In such an instance (Clinton/Sanders), it would probably negate my idea of Trump using some left-winger who happens to also be an anti-globalist.  With a Republican-sponsored third-party conservative in the mix, I don't see a way for Trump to win against Clinton/Sanders or Clinton/Warren.


The scheme is to have Julian Castro be the VP for Hillary.


Most likely plausible.

I still want to know if berniebots would vote for harpy if bernie accepts to be her vp.

That's just silly... he's already said he would not do that...

Bernie was asked if he would even support Hillary if she won... he dodged the question... mentioned something about being an independent... basically, no, he does not, and would not support Hillary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX8AsghDrA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv6BcAbsQv8
1544  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: March 29, 2016, 02:49:17 PM
What you're trying to do is to draw equal mark between the Christianity as whole (with its ~2000 years history) and relatively short period of history when Catholic church was doing some ugly things (ignoring all the good ones).

Should I do the same and equate entire atheism with Bolshevik/communistic regimes (with atheism as mandatory doctrine) which are responsible for greatest number of deaths (adjusted for equal periods) than any other group in the history of mankind?

Do you really want to compare the 2000 year history of christianity murdering half the world with the 1,000,000 year history of atheists making advances in science, medicine, philosophy, morality, etc, etc, etc?!?  Religion simply cannot compare to the contributions of science and medicine... which are not religion... science and medicine are definitely anti-religious... atheist stuff... you wouldn't understand...



Morality and knowledge of what is right and wrong is not something you're born with. Can you not see the differences between Christian countries and i.e. Muslim countries? Which of the latter would allow you to abandon islam and openly promote atheism? Which of the existing religions is the closest to the western standards?

I'm sorry you don't understand history... or much of anything...

The only reason christianity is civil today is because of atheist influences... without atheists, slavery would still be legal!... Homosexuals would be murdered openly, and it would be legal to do so!  It would also be legal to murder atheists! (The bible commands you to do all these things in the same book where the 10-commandments are written)

The Dark ages had a single cause... Christianity... Christians attacked anything that was non-christian for 300 years!  Don't pretend it didn't happen!

This was also not an isolated event, simply a peak in christian murdering... Do not infer that because the dark ages lasted 300 years, that the other 1700 years of christianity were peace and love... the Salem Witch Trials were in the 17th century... plenty of christian murder and pillaging throughout the entire 2000 year history...  Nearly identical to Islam... no difference at all (not surprising since Muslims stole the Christian bible exactly like Christians stole the Hebrew bible... the two religions are nearly identical in every way)



Feel free to name few 'atheist' values, meaning currently accepted ones that were common among all the parts of the world. Don't kill/steal are not one of them. Pro-tip: you can't.

Atheists invented morals and values... don't be silly...

You already admitted that christians did not invent "christian values"... it's only a small step to realizing that they came from either another religion, or non-religion (all religions came from non-religion, so obviously, atheists invented morals)


You are correct in that atheists don't have a written moral code, like the 10 commandments, but you are incorrect that we don't have values... Atheists are the only ones who took the time to think about morals on their own... we decided right from wrong based on the impact on society, not from some dusty old book...

Atheists believe in facts and evidence over feelings... just because a story "feels good", does not make it true... you need facts and evidence... that is what atheists believe in... reality... facts... evidence... not unsupported fairy tales


If some "God" told me to murder my child... I'd tell that asshole to FUCK OFF!... What would you do?  Murder your son?
1545  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: March 29, 2016, 04:13:46 AM
Fairly sure Moses received a similar sign from God... just saying...


Crowd goes wild after small bird lands on Bernie Sanders' podium

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/26/watch-small-bird-lands-bernie-sanders-podium/82289730/

Bernie: This little bird doesn't know it...
(bird flies onto Bernie's Podium sign, "A future to believe in", and looks Bernie right in the eyes)
Bernie: I think there may be some symbolism here
Bernie: I know it may not look like it, but that bird is really a dove asking us for world peace. No more wars

Ah, the bird trick.

You've been conned there, buddy.

Bernie does nothing but fight for the underdog... the middle-class and poverty stricken...

He is basically Jesus, and you fools treat him exactly like the Jews treated Jesus...  When is the crucifixion?
1546  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: March 29, 2016, 04:07:18 AM
Free Dope would pick up some votes.

Contrary to establishment propaganda, Bernie isn't giving out anything for free... Although, he will likely legalize weed

He's only ~200 delegates behind Hillary... California alone is worth 475... say hello to President Bernie!

stop saying he hasn't offered anything for free.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

Here's your free stuff.  When will you wackos figure out that nothing is free.  Free tuition!!! Yay, right?!?!?!  More social security, yay, right?!?!?!?  Extended healthcare coverage, yay, right?!?!?!
Anyway, you get the point.  Bernie will tax the crap out of everyone, and in so doing will kill job after job after job.  Here is what happens:

Economic Impact
According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, Senator Bernie Sanders’s tax plan would reduce the economy’s size by 9.5 percent in the long run. The plan would lead to 4.3 percent lower wages, an 18.6 percent smaller capital stock, and 6.0 million fewer full-time equivalent jobs. The smaller economy results from higher marginal tax rates on capital and labor income.
Table 2.
Economic Impact of Senator Sanders’s Tax Reform Proposals
GDP  -9.5%
Capital Investment  -18.6%
Wage Rate  -4.3%
Full-time Equivalent Jobs (in thousands)  -5,973

Stop saying he hasn't offered anything for free.  He wants to extend the welfare state, thats "free food, utilities, etc."  Moloch have you ever lived in a socialist country??  Socialism will destroy all innovation in the United States.  It will destroy the US.

Whose ass did you pull those numbers out of?  How could you possibly know how taxes affect GDP, investment rate, etc?  6 million fewer jobs?!? How could you know any of that?

What "tax plan" are you even talking about?  Bernie has not released any "tax plan"... are you talking about his single-payer insurance plan that he released 2 months ago?  Do you even know what you are talking about?



No, I have never lived in a socialist country, but I have visited a few of them... I have also done a fair bit of research on socialism...

Have you visited a socialist country, or done even the slightest bit of research into socialist policies?
Or, are you just saying it's evil because that's what you were told in elementary school?
1547  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: March 29, 2016, 01:15:40 AM

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Please, someone tell me how believing in a magic sky God is better than not believing in a magic sky God...  How does believing in fairy tales help a person in any way whatsoever?

You do realise that all the Western world was built on Christian values, not the ones you cherry picked from old testament, but rather on the 10 commitments (even if they've been altered).

You don't see how humanity have benefited from religion? Then you sir, are a moron.
How would you go around explaining say 15th century unwashed, illetarate masses what is good and what is bad?

As I'm sure I stated previously, the Western world was definitely NOT built on christian values...  Name a "christian value" that the western world was build upon... name anything besides don't kill/steal, which are clearly not invented by christians


The problems of the 15th century were a direct result of the dark ages... a curse Christianity inflicted upon Europe... 300 years of murder, torture, rape, book burnings, etc... it was a madhouse... Christians murdered and destroyed half of Europe!

The world would have been much better off without the Inquisition, Burning witches alive, Crusades, et al
1548  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Happy Easter on: March 28, 2016, 03:30:23 PM
Easter is a traditional holiday of pagans and it was adopted by the catholic church. No doubt they don't know what they are celebrating.
Of course they do. They are Christians.

Eid al-fitr is a muslim holiday marking the end of ramadan. Are you suggesting muslims don't know what they are celebrating either?

Are you saying Christians are aware that Easter has nothing to do with Jesus?  A stolen holiday?

I am saying christians celebrate an event directly linked to their faith, the same is true for every faith, unless you believe muslims are celebrating a stolen holiday too...

But that leaves christians all confused about what they are celebrating... what does a bunny and egg-hunt have to do with Jesus?

Answer: Nothing at all... Easter bunny and egg-hunts date back to before Jesus was invented
1549  Other / Politics & Society / Re: liberland.org on: March 28, 2016, 03:09:41 PM
I read something a year or two ago that the Liberland experiment was NOT going well due to interference by Croatia and/or Serbia.

Do you (or anyone) have any other news?

Such a development (acceptance of a new state based on freedom) would be a hugely positive thing for the world.  Which is why they will never allow it...

It's not easy to seize territory and claim it as your own... most countries don't want more competition... I don't believe they have a legal right to the land, so they get arrested any time they try going there

They are mostly just touring the world, talking to people, trying to get acceptance

I got an email last month about applying for citizenship:

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Dear [...],

With the beginning of a new year, we would like to inform you that the government of Liberland is engaged in a number of diplomatic, legal and IT activities leading to international recognition and full territorial control.

We are delighted to note that you have registered yourself and shown an interest to learn about the current situation and be close to the latest news regarding Liberland. Thus, we would like to encourage you to apply for our citizenship, which you may do on our official website. It will ensure you not to miss on any important updates or events.

At this early stage we will grant citizenship to those who are directly involved with our effort. If you would like to contribute financially or volunteer your time to the Liberland cause, please consider making a generous donation or contact us at: secretary@liberland.org.

We are excited to present to you the schedule of some of the upcoming events for 2016 which President Jedlička will attend in the near future.


16-17 FEB 2016 Czech Republic
Presentations in Kroměříž and Zlín
The President will visit the cities of Kroměříž and Zlín to speak to local students in different faculties about the latest advancements in Liberland.

19-21 FEB 2016 Mexico
Anarchapulco Conference
The President will be speaking at the Anarchapulco conference. You may be interested in listening to the interview with Jeff Berwick. Anarchapulco 2016 will take place at the Grand Hotel Acapulco.

22-25 FEB 2016 Venezuela
23/02 - 10:00 AM - Presentation at Universidad Catolica Andres Bello (UCAB) in Caracas.
The President will join Students for Liberty Venezuela and CEDICE Libertad at an open event at the UCAB’s Hermano Lanz Auditorium.
23/02 PM - Private event at (Venue to be determined)
Organized by Vente Joven, a branch of Vente Venezuela, the venezuelan liberal party.
Meeting with representatives of the National Assembly.
24/02 AM - Presentation at Universidad Metropolitana in Caracas
The President will attend and open event organized by the student’s organization Grupo Alpes.
24/02 PM Private event with CEDICE Libertad and venezuelan businesspeople.

26-28 FEB 2016 USA
International Students for Liberty Conference
President Jedlička will attend the event of International Students for Liberty Conference 2016 with the theme:The Liberty Vote. The 2016 ISFLC will be held at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel starting on Fri 26 Feb at 14:00 and end on Sun 28 Feb at 13:00.

29 FEB 2016 USA
Georgetown University
Lecture on Georgetown University, invitation by Students for Liberty

02-04 MAR 2016 USA
CPAC conference
President Jedlička will attend the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), which is claimed to be the birthplace of modern conservatism. The four-day conference begins with Activism Boot Camp, an unparalleled initiative that brings together the finest conservative organizations involved in activism training and campaign management

05-06 MAR 2016 Greece
Diplomacy Open Days Athens
Mr. President will speak at the Diplomacy Open Days conference in Athens organized by Association of International Relations Interns. He will also organize the Liberland representative office in Greece.

08 MAR 2016 Croatia
Free Market Road Show, Zagreb
President of Liberland will be at Free Market Road Show in Zagreb, debating on a topic: Death and Taxes - EU Tax Harmonization, BEPS, FATCA, and Tax Havens under Siege and Europe in Times of Change - Jobs, entrepreneurship, sharing economy, and the European Demos.

09 MAR 2016 Serbia
Free Market Road Show, Belgrade
President Jedlička will be present at the 2016 Free Market Road Show which brings together leading business people, outstanding scholars and students, opinion leaders, policy experts, elected officials, diplomats and other interested parties from across Europe to discuss the current Euro-zone crisis.

11-14 MAR 2016 Turkey
Presidential visit in Istanbul
President Jedlička will have the honour to participate at the regular meeting of the Rotary Club in Turkey and discuss some of the most important and recent issues in regards to Liberland.

11-13 MAR 2016 Czech Republic
The Liberland Government will attend the European Students For Liberty Conference 2016 at Charles University in Prague.

15 MAR 2016 United Kingdom
Institute of Economic Affairs Conference in London
At 18:30 Mr. President and Justice Minister Kacper Zajac will speak about the foundation of Liberland and its constitution.

17-20 MAR 2016 Germany
European Resource Bank Meeting
Mr. President will attend the European Resource Bank Meeting which hosts the largest gathering of classical liberal, and libertarian intellectual entrepreneurs, free market think tankers from all around Europe.

23 MAR 2016 Czech Republic
Presentation about Liberland at the Charles University
Mr. President will give a lecture and speak to students at Youthquake forum at the Charles University in Prague at 19:00.

30 MAR 2016 Austria
President speaks to the Austrian Libertarian Movement
Event will take place at 18:30 in Hayek Saal.

06 APR 2016 Czech Republic
Presentation for the Young Conservatives party
The President will hold a presentation and discussion for the Young Conservatives party and general public about Liberland in Olomouc on the topic: “How to Set Up a Nation”

13-17 APR 2016 Liberland
Liberland’s Celebration of One Year of Existence
We are pleased to reunite with all our supporters and friends for the unique occasion of celebrating the one year anniversary of Liberland.

20 MAY 2016 Liechtenstein
The XII. International Gottfried von Haberler Conference
On May 20, 2016 Mr. President will be present at the XII International Gottfried von Haberler Conference in Vaduz, at University of Liechtenstein. The discussed topic: “Central Banks, Fiscal Policy and the Betrayed Citizen”. As usual the event will be organized and hosted by ECAEF – European Center of Austrian Economics Foundation.

19-21 AUG 2016 Aspen
Restarting the Eris Society
President Jedlička will be present at restarting the Eris Society (see erissociety.org). It will be quite exclusive event, where he may meet and debate about future of Liberland with prominent figures.

Don’t forget to follow Liberland on our official Facebook page as well as the news section on our website for the most-up-to date information regarding development of Liberland and planned events.

Once again, we invite you to donate your time or money by making a generous donation or contact us at: secretary@liberland.org

Thank you for your support and interest. It is highly appreciated and crucial for the future development of Liberland and liberty worldwide.

Live and Let Live,

The Presidential Office of the Free Republic of Liberland
1550  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Happy Easter on: March 28, 2016, 03:02:16 PM
Easter is a traditional holiday of pagans and it was adopted by the catholic church. No doubt they don't know what they are celebrating.
Of course they do. They are Christians.

Eid al-fitr is a muslim holiday marking the end of ramadan. Are you suggesting muslims don't know what they are celebrating either?

Are you saying Christians are aware that Easter has nothing to do with Jesus?  A stolen holiday?
1551  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: March 28, 2016, 02:58:34 PM
Question:  If God asked you to murder your own child... would you?

God asked Abraham to do this, and Abraham was ready to kill his son... would you blindly murder your own child if God commanded it?

This is just to examine what faith or trust Abraham had in lord. Yes Abraham accepted to kill his son only because he believed in lord.

I did not ask about Abraham, I asked about you... If God asked YOU to kill YOUR son... would YOU do it?

It's a question about morality... and a trick question... there is no correct answer...

If you would not kill your son, then you don't really believe God is moral in telling you to kill your son...

If you would kill your son, you are immoral and so is your God...
1552  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Security Guard Shoots Dead 15-Year-Boy Who Shot Him With a BB Gun on: March 28, 2016, 01:27:21 AM
How does a security guard confuse being shot with a BB versus a gun?

One goes plink, the other goes BANG!
1553  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Trump Wall on: March 28, 2016, 01:01:40 AM
Build a wall of gatling guns with motion sensors...

Or, better yet... build a moat... add sharks with laser beams!

Defeatism, Hopelessness, namby pamby attitudes are not smart, elite, progressive, correct, real, or needed.

What they are is stupid.

Can we skip the 3rd grade name-calling?

How about forget about the stupid wall and focus on the real problems with America?

America has 101 problems... and none of them have to do with illegal immigration
1554  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Happy Easter on: March 28, 2016, 12:51:53 AM
Am I the only one who noticed that Christians can't count?

I hear a lot about Jesus rising, "Three days later"...

But, if Jesus dies Friday evening... Sunday morning is only a day and a half later, not 3 days... do the math


PS. Why do they call they day Jesus was murdered... "Good Friday"?!?
1555  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Trump Wall on: March 28, 2016, 12:41:07 AM
Build a wall of gatling guns with motion sensors...

Or, better yet... build a moat... add sharks with laser beams!
1556  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: March 28, 2016, 12:04:39 AM
Trump still needs 498 out of the remaining 944 delegates to win the nomination

If he fails to get the required 52.75% of the remaining delegates... brokered convention!
1557  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: March 27, 2016, 10:45:42 PM
Free Dope would pick up some votes.

Contrary to establishment propaganda, Bernie isn't giving out anything for free... Although, he will likely legalize weed

He's only ~200 delegates behind Hillary... California alone is worth 475... say hello to President Bernie!
1558  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: March 27, 2016, 10:37:07 PM
P.S. I find it rather pointless when both sides attack (e.g. the "atheism is poison" situation the OP is frustrated with and, on the other hand, atheists doing the same on every Youtube video related to religion in the comments) each other on the Internet, instead of having a civil discussion and providing valid arguments. Nobody's going to win and everyone will waste their time. Seems like some people have a hard time stomaching that different people have different opinions and/or beliefs.  Undecided.

There is a huge difference between attacking and self-defense...

Christians have been attacking Atheists on this forum non-stop for over a year

I asked them to stop in each thread, but they continue anyway

You'll notice they stopped since I made this thread...


Apparently Christians cannot see how much of an asshole they are, until you give them a little bit of their own medicine

Christians hand out bibles in school, Atheists hand out satanic literature...
Christians put up 10-commandment statue, Atheists put up Baphomet statue...
Christians teach religion in school, Atheists teach satanism in school...

Tit for tat... Christians back down every time
1559  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BERNIE SANDERS, WEIRDO IN CHIEF on: March 27, 2016, 09:05:58 PM
What a fantastic day for Bernie yesterday!

I am sure he will win the nomination. Yesterday was an example of how the last half of US is going to vote.
Mark my words Wink

Hillary is only up by around 200 delegates now... California is worth 475 delegates... do the math
1560  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Happy Easter on: March 27, 2016, 07:21:08 PM
What's the big deal?

Easter is a Germanic-Pagan holiday that was stolen by christians

Easter has nothing to do with religion... what do an egg-laying bunny and chocolate have to do with Jesus?  About as much as Christmas Trees and Santa Claus (another Germanic-Pagan holiday the christians stole - Yule)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ēostre
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