(mprep doesn't consider this trolling) I try to avoid tl;dr posts...
If you have something in specific you would like to debate, please be specific and short... I will not debate 20 different topics each post... 1-2 tops A.K.A. "I put something out without any evidence, got it debunked with evidence and now am too lazy to actually discuss with someone who can actually take the heat"Guess it's easier to fight with a moron, isn't it?
No, you just seem to plug up your ears and go "lalalalala I can't hear you".
Have you tried taking comprehension classes?
Are you still here? Didn't you say that you were leaving? I bid you a good day for I'm tired of participating in another discussion
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What I find most interesting is you've flared up over (No 1. Barack Obama is not my president)
Not very interesting... it tells me that he didn't bother to read beyond the first point he disagreed with... not even surprising honestly  |
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P.S. Extra points for calling a moderator of the forum you are discussing in a troll.
Being a mod does not make you superior in any way You say I run away and shit... have I? Am I not here? You have said twice now that you are finished with this conversation, yet you come back simply to troll You are the one who does nothing but insult me... can you try attacking my argument for once? I have told you several times now that if you want to debate a topic that is good... just pick a topic besides ad-hominem attacking a straw-man Have you tried staying on topic a single time? We were talking about God condoning slavery in the bible, and you jump in with a 3-page long post which has nothing to do with God, slavery or the bible... do you not realize how ridiculous, long (tl;dr), and time consuming it would be if I picked apart your 3-page post and replied to it in the same manner? go troll someone else asshole |
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Guess it's easier to fight with a moron, isn't it?
You are a child who thinks we are fighting... I'm ignoring you, because you are trolling You aren't even attempting to have a debate... BADecker is at least trying to debate, however poorly You are simply attacking me, and trying to derail the conversation with 3-page long spam posts |
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What’s your least favorite thing that Christians say? (Non-Christians are welcome to comment, and I respect your right to different beliefs, so please keep your comment respectful to me and my readers.)
There are really too many to list... for me it's mostly the bigotry, hypocrisy and greed I would say that your post is one of my favorites from a Christian It sounds like you are really beginning to question things that your fellow Christians believe... and you read the bible, which is great... keep that up and I can see you becoming an Atheist soon! (I'd recommend Leviticus/Deuteronomy... those did it for me... and Revelations, that one is a trip) |
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tl;dr
I hope you realize nobody reads tl;dr posts... Troll me all you want with them, nobody will ever read it... I'll answer anyone who is remotely civil and can keep it concise... How many times have I replied to BADecker? And he's a moron...     |
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It's just what if all these scientist are right can we afford to be wrong..Simple answer no..
This is the perspective they have tried to push, but I don't buy it... In Earth's history, CO2 levels have been above 8000 PPM... we are currently at 350 PPM and worried?!? WHY? The evidence really is not there... at best, the evidence is anecdotal - showing a correlation without proving causation The main selling point is similar to christianity and "Pascal's Wager"... which is itself a logical fallacy... Anthropogenic Global Warming is an extraordinary claim, which requires extraordinary evidence... the evidence is lacking... the evidence has not met the burden of proof... simple as that... If someone actually does find some legitimate evidence in support of anthropogenic global warming, I will change my mind... But, the evidence currently being presented is shit pseudoscience I think its a complete scam to swindle tax-payers out of $20,000,000,000 every year (that's a lot of money for a claim with such poor evidence... like religion) |
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I suggest everyone posting to this thread and any others about science vs. faith read "The Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" by Carl Sagan. It is fantastic.
Carl Sagan on Religionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBCFQtDLPA0 |
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Except that you are wrong. Slavery is good...
Only a christian could convince himself that slavery is good... Slavery is immoral, every time... EVERY time... there is no situation where slavery is good. Period. End of moral lesson. Only a deceptive person who doesn't have an answer would take someone's writings out of context and turn them into something that he did not say. Because of this, it turns out that you are more immoral than slavery might be. As I said above - though not entirely directly - government has made slaves of us all through taxation. What? I am "more immoral than slavery" because I quote from the bible? Does that make sense to anyone who isn't christian? You are now accusing me of taking it out of context and that the bible doesn't condone slavery?!? Prove it! Find me a single quote from the bible which condemns slavery instead of condoning it! The bible condones slavery in over a dozen places, and condemns slavery in exactly zero places! Never does the bible say owning slaves is bad or immoral... not once! |
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Except that you are wrong. Slavery is good...
Only a christian could convince himself that slavery is good... Slavery is immoral, every time... EVERY time... there is no situation where slavery is good. Period. Full-Stop. End of moral lesson |
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Of course science is not a religion, that's silly
Science does however have some religious-like qualities at times...
Take the debate about Global Warming
Global warming/climate change has become all too religious like...
People choose a side based on gut feelings, rather than research...
Much of the research is pseudoscience...
Many of the claims boil down to an argument from authority, "97% of scientists believe it, so you should too" (not even a true statement)
Much of the evidence is fabricated (historical temperature data has been "adjusted", new thermometers measure temperature differently, and are placed in the sun, etc)
The whole premise boils down to "fix it soon or you will burn in a lake of fire"... it's a scary doomsday scenario like religion... and just like religion, not supported by the evidence
I personally do not believe in anthropogenic global warming for the same reason I do not believe in religion... the evidence is lacking in both quality and quantity
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Slaves come from approximately two places:
1. Free people enslaving themselves to others for economic reasons;
2. People conquering other people and making slaves of them.
God forbids the stealing of people, in the Bible.
God regulates how slavery must work. Why? Because the stubbornness of mankind will always make slaves. God had a choice. Either destroy mankind, or regulate the slavery to a "dull roar." God didn't and doesn't want to destroy mankind. So he works with man's slavery-making-mode to make it better for both the slaves and their masters.
If God were truly a moral god... he would have said something like, "Slavery is bad, mkay? If you could stop owning another human as property, that would be swell" But, that's not what God said in the bible... God said slavery is good and moral... Every good Jew/christian should own a few slaves... God said it was kosher It is also not a one-off... God condones slavery at least a dozen times in the bible (both OT & NT) |
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Bible slavery is God causing the stubbornness of mankind to limit slavery that was and would have been violently more disastrous for the slaves if it were not for Bible limitations on slavery.
Objection - Assumes facts not in evidence Objection - Lack of foundation Objection - Improper characterization of evidence Objection - Calls for speculation Objection - Leading the witness |
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...Scientific journals (meant for getting the full picture of a scientific or historical discovery, with it's nuances and possible errors) are from "3,000 to 10,000 words in length"...
And with all this trolling, you still refuse to pick a topic for debate... As for scientific journals... I have no problem with a 10,000 word paper, so long as it sticks to a single topic... which they do... it often takes a lot of words to debate a single topic... The problem is you jump all over the place, accusing me of this or that... if I don't respond to everything, you accuse me of cherry-picking... but, I cannot possibly fully refute a 3-page post, providing supporting evidence for every claim, without making my own 100-page-long post! This is the situation I am avoiding... if you want to debate a single topic at a time, PICK A FUCKING TOPIC TO DEBATE WITH ME! ------------------------------------------------------- If you want me to pick, how about slavery in the bible? Christianity has also preached that slavery is lawful and not a bad thing... in both the old and new testament, so don't get all, "but the new testament doesn't say that" on me...
[X]Bold statement with no evidence [X]Previous arguments dismissed You say I did not provide evidence for this claim, but I did... I said christianity had preached it... the bible supports slavery in at least a dozen places... do you need me to quote the exact verses for you, or are you capable of using google? Here's the link again since you must have missed it (evidence you claim I didn't provide) Slavery: As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly. When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his property. More slavery in the bible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery |
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tl;dr
What part of tl;dr do you not understand? If you limit your post to 1-2 paragraphs, I will read it... if you want to argue about 10 things at once, I will not... You cannot possibly have a serious debate that is spread among so many different topics... it's turns the whole thread into a bunch of back and forth trolling/spam... Since you cannot follow simple instructions, here is a video of christians saying stupid shit (evidence to support my claim that christianity is poison to your mind) More Stupid Christianshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZznlL7uG18 |
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I own a 4 headed dragon..Trouble is no one can prove I don't own one..
Now if you don't believe me you will burn for ever
Just goes to show how little atheists know! According to the bible, Satan is a 7-headed dragon not 4-headed! HA! GOTCHA! (this post is satire) |
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A.K.A. "I put something out without any evidence, got it debunked with evidence and now am too lazy to actually discuss with someone who can actually take the heat" Also, title: Christianity is Poison The title was a response to the "Atheism is Poison" thread which had been constantly bumped as the top thread for over a month... If you read the OP you would know this... It's comparable to christians putting up a 10-commandment statue, and refusing to take it down... until some atheist comes along and puts up a statue of Baphomet right next to it... suddenly christians are ready to take both of them down... funny how hypocrisy works, eh? As I explained... if you have something in specific you would like to debate, I'm all for that... Nothing you have said has debunked any of my claims... in fact, you provided zero evidence to support any of your own claims... you simply said I was wrong; that's not debunking... If you would like to debate a specific claim... let me know which one you most object to, and I will provide supporting evidence... If you are just here to troll, which appears to be the case... why? If your God was upset with me trolling His religion... pray that He kills me with a giant lightning bolt or something... because that'll never happen |
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P.P.S. Moloch, king of cherry-picking and master of ignoring arguments, you seem to have forgotten to answer to the following arguments, based on actual sources, after throwing out yours so boldly, some of which without anything to back it up:
I try to avoid tl;dr posts... If you have something in specific you would like to debate, please be specific and short... I will not debate 20 different topics each post... 1-2 tops If I did not respond to something in your 3 page long post... it's probably because I didn't read most/any of it As for cherry-picking... that's not me, that's the bible... it says both good and bad things... how is it cherry-picking if I point out a few bad things? It's cherry-picking for someone to claim the bible is good/holy, because they ignore all the bad stuff it says... I could easily point out 101 things that are immoral in the bible... yet people ignore all that immoral stuff, and call it a book of morals? |
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!1!!one! Troll me more with my own name... Do you think I've been using it for 20+ years without knowing the origin? Moloch predates christianity... He's mentioned in the Pentateuch! |
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