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2581  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 07:17:44 PM
So I came across this passage, and I was wondering if BADecker could interpret...


Quote from: Acts 16:29-31
29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas.
30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Is this saying that if I believe in Jesus, my entire family is saved?

I recall other parts of the bible stating that salvation was a personal matter, and that my personal faith could not save my family, only they can save themselves?

Seems like a contradiction here... and being that salvation through Jesus is the core of Christianity, you'd think they would be consistent throughout the bible, right?

As long as you are searching for contradictions, you will never see much of anything else in anything.

Translation:
Fuck if I know

Well, obviously you don't know. If you had, you wouldn't have consulted me, who you have shown over and over that you don't believe anyway. This also shows your inability to rationally calculate much of anything.


First off, I am not consulting you, I am interrogating you

Chuckle. So you think that you are interrogating me. Chuckle.    Cool

Now that you mention it, ridicule might be a better word...

I can't be interrogating you since you have no information worth hearing

Why, Moloch. Thank you for the attempted ridicule. It only helps to boost my accuracy, since you have shown that you don't have anything to base your ridicule of me on.

Excepting that nearly every post I make links to sources and evidence proving you wrong...

I don't recall you ever posting a source or evidence, you simply repeat your own failed hypothesis
2582  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 07:11:01 PM
The moment people clearly and logically argue that you're wrong you start insulting them. That's not nice mr. christian dude.

Now you are calling af_newbie a Christian. Don't yo think that he might be insulted by that?

Cool

I was talking about you, not him. Didn't want to quote again. Either way you'll understand what you want.

Yabut, it's fun watching you squirm a little bit.    Grin

Soooo... you are just here for the trolling?
2583  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 07:06:56 PM
So I came across this passage, and I was wondering if BADecker could interpret...


Quote from: Acts 16:29-31
29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas.
30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Is this saying that if I believe in Jesus, my entire family is saved?

I recall other parts of the bible stating that salvation was a personal matter, and that my personal faith could not save my family, only they can save themselves?

Seems like a contradiction here... and being that salvation through Jesus is the core of Christianity, you'd think they would be consistent throughout the bible, right?

As long as you are searching for contradictions, you will never see much of anything else in anything.

Translation:
Fuck if I know

Well, obviously you don't know. If you had, you wouldn't have consulted me, who you have shown over and over that you don't believe anyway. This also shows your inability to rationally calculate much of anything.


First off, I am not consulting you, I am interrogating you

Chuckle. So you think that you are interrogating me. Chuckle.    Cool

Now that you mention it, ridicule might be a better word...

I can't be interrogating you since you have no information worth hearing
2584  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 07:04:37 PM
If you are not intelligent enough to use your own discretion about this, consult one of the residents of your local funny farm.

Why do you deny the existence of Allah, but insist that Yahweh is the real God?

Why are you an Atheist with respect to Zeus, Odin, Vishnu, Hades, Thor, Waheguru, Aphrodite, Moloch, Thoth, Horus, Ra, and Allah... but not Yahweh?

You are an Atheist with respect to 3000+ deities!

Why did you choose to believe in Yahweh, rather than the other 3000+ gods available?

Allah is simply a translation of the word "god," and shouldn't be capitalized because it is a false god. It is capitalized either out of respect for Muslims, or because people don't understand it is only a simple translation.


Allah is a name, and with all names, it is capitalized... you should have learned this in kindergarten
2585  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:59:59 PM
The moment people clearly and logically argue that you're wrong you start insulting them. That's not nice mr. christian dude.

I tried explaining this to him earlier, but he either does not understand (idiot), or does not care (troll)

Tsk. Tsk. Got you backed into a corner. You are going off on political science tangents, because political science is the only thing that can prove something that is false to be true. It's call lying, one of the great parts of political science.

When you have lost a debate, do not resort to Ad-Hominem attacks... it makes you look childish, and proves you have no evidence to support your claims
2586  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:57:14 PM
So I came across this passage, and I was wondering if BADecker could interpret...


Quote from: Acts 16:29-31
29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas.
30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Is this saying that if I believe in Jesus, my entire family is saved?

I recall other parts of the bible stating that salvation was a personal matter, and that my personal faith could not save my family, only they can save themselves?

Seems like a contradiction here... and being that salvation through Jesus is the core of Christianity, you'd think they would be consistent throughout the bible, right?

As long as you are searching for contradictions, you will never see much of anything else in anything.

Translation:
Fuck if I know

Well, obviously you don't know. If you had, you wouldn't have consulted me, who you have shown over and over that you don't believe anyway. This also shows your inability to rationally calculate much of anything.


First off, I am not consulting you, I am interrogating you
2587  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:55:56 PM
So I should either walk to work or move with a tent inside the company's yard and be evolved by doing this, of course?

You ask me this? Shouldn't you evaluate this on your own, according to the things that you desire, and at least consult the company about if they will let you do this?

Besides, if you do, do something like this, it will not make you less devolved. It might only indicate that you are way more devolved than anybody had thought.

Cool

Still, you haven't answered my question. Will I be more evolved if I stop using my car or not? Enlighten me, oh great one, how to be more evolved, just like the cave people?

If you are not intelligent enough to use your own discretion about this, consult one of the residents of your local funny farm.

Why do you deny the existence of Allah, but insist that Yahweh is the real God?

Why are you an Atheist with respect to Zeus, Odin, Vishnu, Hades, Thor, Waheguru, Aphrodite, Moloch, Thoth, Horus, Ra, and Allah... but not Yahweh?

You are an Atheist with respect to 3000+ deities!

Why did you choose to believe in Yahweh, rather than the other 3000+ gods available?
2588  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:48:58 PM
So I came across this passage, and I was wondering if BADecker could interpret...


Quote from: Acts 16:29-31
29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas.
30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Is this saying that if I believe in Jesus, my entire family is saved?

I recall other parts of the bible stating that salvation was a personal matter, and that my personal faith could not save my family, only they can save themselves?

Seems like a contradiction here... and being that salvation through Jesus is the core of Christianity, you'd think they would be consistent throughout the bible, right?

As long as you are searching for contradictions, you will never see much of anything else in anything.

Translation:
Fuck if I know
2589  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:47:10 PM

There are many people who read and understand Hebrew

Hebrew is probably the easiest language to learn on the planet... If you can't be bothered to learn a little Hebrew... don't pretend you know the Hebrew Bible (the origins or your own religion)

If you cannot read it yourself, then you are putting your faith in other people to interpret for you, not God

Exactly why I wouldn't put my faith in your understanding of the Bible.

I certainly wouldn't put my faith in your understanding of the bible...

You just said that God lives in everyone, whether they like it or not...

What about that part where you must invite Jesus into your heart for God to live inside you?

Quote from: Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Quote from: John 1:12
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, the gave the right to become children of God
Quote from: John 14:17
even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

Jesus has been in your heart since the time you were conceived. Can't help it if you are not aware of it, or that you can't figure out what those passages you refer to mean.

Really?  I've been to churches of several different Christian denominations, and I've never heard anyone claim that before...  It's always, "You must invite Jesus into your heart" (exactly like it says in the bible)

Where do you get that from?  Book, chapter, verse?
2590  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:43:31 PM
So I came across this passage, and I was wondering if BADecker could interpret...


Quote from: Acts 16:29-31
29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas.
30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Is this saying that if I believe in Jesus, my entire family is saved?

I recall other parts of the bible stating that salvation was a personal matter, and that my personal faith could not save my family, only they can save themselves?

Seems like a contradiction here... and being that salvation through Jesus is the core of Christianity, you'd think they would be consistent throughout the bible, right?
2591  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:35:26 PM

There are many people who read and understand Hebrew

Hebrew is probably the easiest language to learn on the planet... If you can't be bothered to learn a little Hebrew... don't pretend you know the Hebrew Bible (the origins or your own religion)

If you cannot read it yourself, then you are putting your faith in other people to interpret for you, not God

Exactly why I wouldn't put my faith in your understanding of the Bible.

I certainly wouldn't put my faith in your understanding of the bible...

You just said that God lives in everyone, whether they like it or not...

What about that part where you must invite Jesus into your heart for God to live inside you?

Quote from: Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Quote from: John 1:12
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, the gave the right to become children of God
Quote from: John 14:17
even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.
2592  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:21:47 PM

There are many people who read and understand Hebrew

Hebrew is probably the easiest language to learn on the planet... If you can't be bothered to learn a little Hebrew... don't pretend you know the Hebrew Bible (the origins or your own religion)

If you cannot read it yourself, then you are putting your faith in other people to interpret for you, not God
2593  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:16:48 PM
Translation: it's true because God says it's true. Not because it's a scientific fact that can be demonstrated again and again with the same results.

Translation correction: It's true because it's true. When God confirms it, we can be certain it is true. When it is a scientific fact, it is true. We can't always determine if scientific facts are true, simply because our abilities are so extremely limited. Because of this, we need to believe God rather than the things we think we understand in science.


I'll believe God when he comes down and speaks to me in person...

Until then, science is fact, and the bible is nothing more than a dusty old book written by a homophobic, slave-owning, polygamous, genocidal desert cult
2594  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:12:47 PM

...God, Who science proves to exist, actually did examine science before He set it in place

Yet another claim pulled directly from your ass

Prove it

It is a logical conclusion based on the things that god's witnesses in the bible said and say.


It is a hearsay (at best).

Oh, because the bible says so?

The bible also says that rabbits chew their cud like a cow

The bible says unicorns exist

The bible condones slavery in no less than 5 different books

The entire old testament is filled with murder and genocide

The bible places Jesus in cities hundreds of miles apart on the same day

The bible says the earth has four corners (implying the earth is flat)

The bible says God created light... 3 days before he created the sun and stars...

The bible is wrong on so many things... Literally hundreds of provable errors and contradictions

I will gladly provide dozens of links to scholarly sources on the subject if you are interested


The one thing that annoys me the most is that "everyone can understand bible in their own way" or such the cases that you've said can be understood differently from person to person or completely ignored. Ignoring the bad parts and counting just he good ones, The Evolution of Bible. Therefore bible is as much as a blank papers bounded together, it's just a great hitorical artifact, nothing else absolutely.

This is why the real Bible, the original written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, was written in those languages, which are meaning specific in the things that they say.


So you talk and read Hebrew Aramaic and Greek then? Or you don't understand the Bible either?

Actually, now that you mention it, I do...

I have read the book of Genesis in the original Hebrew, thanks for noticing... I have also read the Zohar, but that hardly counts since it is only commentary on the Hebrew Bible...

Here is an example from the first sentence of Genesis...

בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ.
Bereshit bara Elohim et hashamayim ve'et ha'arets.

Literally translates:
In the beginning, Gods created the Heavens and the Earth

Elohim is the plural form for Gods, not singular God... that would be El (אֵל), not Elohim (אֱלֹהִים)... Elohim is plural...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
Quote
Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים) is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "Deity" in Biblical Hebrew

Not bad for an old Jew, eh?

What about you BADecker... you said you don't read Hebrew, but have you even read the bible in English?

I ask because you don't appear to know much about what it says... yet you make claims that there are translation errors after you admit you can't even read the language

Since the Bible states elsewhere that God is One, we have a plurality of persons in a singular God, no matter how you look at it.


The Hebrew Bible says that?  I'd love to know what book, chapter and verse... please educate me

Deuteronomy 6:4

1 Timothy 2:5


Strange that neither Elohim nor El is used in either of those passages, eh? (1 Timothy is not even part of the Hebrew Bible)

Besides... you JUST CLAIMED, "was written in those languages, which are meaning specific in the things that they say"... How meaning specific could it be when the word that God chose to write is Elohim (plural), but we are supposed to interpret as El (singular)?  God fucked up?

Anybody who thinks that he is going to understand God, when God is a user of cause and effect the way He uses it, is going to have trouble. The thing we need to do is accept what God says, because it is truth from God.


Which truth?  Did a singular God create the universe, or a group of Elohim?

According to the original Hebrew, it was a group of gods who created the universe...

If you don't believe what God says, you will have to read and think to figure it out. If you believe what God said, His Spirit will reveal it to you.


That's the problem... unlike you, I have read the bible... in multiple languages

The bible contradicts itself in any language... I suppose you'll have to take my word for it since you can't read Hebrew
2595  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:09:22 PM

...God, Who science proves to exist, actually did examine science before He set it in place

Yet another claim pulled directly from your ass

Prove it

It is a logical conclusion based on the things that god's witnesses in the bible said and say.


It is a hearsay (at best).

Oh, because the bible says so?

The bible also says that rabbits chew their cud like a cow

The bible says unicorns exist

The bible condones slavery in no less than 5 different books

The entire old testament is filled with murder and genocide

The bible places Jesus in cities hundreds of miles apart on the same day

The bible says the earth has four corners (implying the earth is flat)

The bible says God created light... 3 days before he created the sun and stars...

The bible is wrong on so many things... Literally hundreds of provable errors and contradictions

I will gladly provide dozens of links to scholarly sources on the subject if you are interested


The one thing that annoys me the most is that "everyone can understand bible in their own way" or such the cases that you've said can be understood differently from person to person or completely ignored. Ignoring the bad parts and counting just he good ones, The Evolution of Bible. Therefore bible is as much as a blank papers bounded together, it's just a great hitorical artifact, nothing else absolutely.

This is why the real Bible, the original written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, was written in those languages, which are meaning specific in the things that they say.


So you talk and read Hebrew Aramaic and Greek then? Or you don't understand the Bible either?

Actually, now that you mention it, I do...

I have read the book of Genesis in the original Hebrew, thanks for noticing... I have also read the Zohar, but that hardly counts since it is only commentary on the Hebrew Bible...

Here is an example from the first sentence of Genesis...

בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ.
Bereshit bara Elohim et hashamayim ve'et ha'arets.

Literally translates:
In the beginning, Gods created the Heavens and the Earth

Elohim is the plural form for Gods, not singular God... that would be El (אֵל), not Elohim (אֱלֹהִים)... Elohim is plural...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
Quote
Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים) is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "Deity" in Biblical Hebrew

Not bad for an old Jew, eh?

What about you BADecker... you said you don't read Hebrew, but have you even read the bible in English?

I ask because you don't appear to know much about what it says... yet you make claims that there are translation errors after you admit you can't even read the language

Since the Bible states elsewhere that God is One, we have a plurality of persons in a singular God, no matter how you look at it.


The Hebrew Bible says that?  I'd love to know what book, chapter and verse... please educate me

Deuteronomy 6:4

1 Timothy 2:5


Strange that neither Elohim nor El is used in either of those passages, eh? (1 Timothy is not even part of the Hebrew Bible)

Besides... you JUST CLAIMED, "was written in those languages, which are meaning specific in the things that they say"...
How meaning specific could it be when the word that God chose to write is Elohim (plural), but we are supposed to interpret as El (singular)?
God fucked up?

(bear in mind this is still the first sentence of Genesis (7 words)... don't even get me started on the second verse!)

Anybody who thinks that he is going to understand God, when God is a user of cause and effect the way He uses it, is going to have trouble. The thing we need to do is accept what God says, because it is truth from God.


Which truth?  Did a singular God create the universe, or a group of Elohim?

According to the original Hebrew, it was a group of gods who created the universe...
2596  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 06:00:54 PM

...God, Who science proves to exist, actually did examine science before He set it in place

Yet another claim pulled directly from your ass

Prove it

It is a logical conclusion based on the things that god's witnesses in the bible said and say.


It is a hearsay (at best).

Oh, because the bible says so?

The bible also says that rabbits chew their cud like a cow

The bible says unicorns exist

The bible condones slavery in no less than 5 different books

The entire old testament is filled with murder and genocide

The bible places Jesus in cities hundreds of miles apart on the same day

The bible says the earth has four corners (implying the earth is flat)

The bible says God created light... 3 days before he created the sun and stars...

The bible is wrong on so many things... Literally hundreds of provable errors and contradictions

I will gladly provide dozens of links to scholarly sources on the subject if you are interested


The one thing that annoys me the most is that "everyone can understand bible in their own way" or such the cases that you've said can be understood differently from person to person or completely ignored. Ignoring the bad parts and counting just he good ones, The Evolution of Bible. Therefore bible is as much as a blank papers bounded together, it's just a great hitorical artifact, nothing else absolutely.

This is why the real Bible, the original written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, was written in those languages, which are meaning specific in the things that they say.


So you talk and read Hebrew Aramaic and Greek then? Or you don't understand the Bible either?

Actually, now that you mention it, I do...

I have read the book of Genesis in the original Hebrew, thanks for noticing... I have also read the Zohar, but that hardly counts since it is only commentary on the Hebrew Bible...

Here is an example from the first sentence of Genesis...

בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ.
Bereshit bara Elohim et hashamayim ve'et ha'arets.

Literally translates:
In the beginning, Gods created the Heavens and the Earth

Elohim is the plural form for Gods, not singular God... that would be El (אֵל), not Elohim (אֱלֹהִים)... Elohim is plural...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
Quote
Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים) is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "Deity" in Biblical Hebrew

Not bad for an old Jew, eh?

What about you BADecker... you said you don't read Hebrew, but have you even read the bible in English?

I ask because you don't appear to know much about what it says... yet you make claims that there are translation errors after you admit you can't even read the language

Since the Bible states elsewhere that God is One, we have a plurality of persons in a singular God, no matter how you look at it.


The Hebrew Bible says that?  I'd love to know what book, chapter and verse... please educate me

Deuteronomy 6:4

1 Timothy 2:5


Strange that neither Elohim nor El is used in either of those passages, eh? (1 Timothy is not even part of the Hebrew Bible)

Besides... you JUST CLAIMED, "was written in those languages, which are meaning specific in the things that they say"...
How meaning specific could it be when the word that God chose to write is Elohim (plural), but we are supposed to interpret as El (singular)?
God fucked up?

(bear in mind this is still the first sentence of Genesis (7 words)... don't even get me started on the second verse!)
2597  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 05:55:40 PM

...God, Who science proves to exist, actually did examine science before He set it in place

Yet another claim pulled directly from your ass

Prove it

It is a logical conclusion based on the things that god's witnesses in the bible said and say.


It is a hearsay (at best).

Oh, because the bible says so?

The bible also says that rabbits chew their cud like a cow

The bible says unicorns exist

The bible condones slavery in no less than 5 different books

The entire old testament is filled with murder and genocide

The bible places Jesus in cities hundreds of miles apart on the same day

The bible says the earth has four corners (implying the earth is flat)

The bible says God created light... 3 days before he created the sun and stars...

The bible is wrong on so many things... Literally hundreds of provable errors and contradictions

I will gladly provide dozens of links to scholarly sources on the subject if you are interested


The one thing that annoys me the most is that "everyone can understand bible in their own way" or such the cases that you've said can be understood differently from person to person or completely ignored. Ignoring the bad parts and counting just he good ones, The Evolution of Bible. Therefore bible is as much as a blank papers bounded together, it's just a great hitorical artifact, nothing else absolutely.

This is why the real Bible, the original written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, was written in those languages, which are meaning specific in the things that they say.


So you talk and read Hebrew Aramaic and Greek then? Or you don't understand the Bible either?

Actually, now that you mention it, I do...

I have read the book of Genesis in the original Hebrew, thanks for noticing... I have also read the Zohar, but that hardly counts since it is only commentary on the Hebrew Bible...

Here is an example from the first sentence of Genesis...

בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ.
Bereshit bara Elohim et hashamayim ve'et ha'arets.

Literally translates:
In the beginning, Gods created the Heavens and the Earth

Elohim is the plural form for Gods, not singular God... that would be El (אֵל), not Elohim (אֱלֹהִים)... Elohim is plural...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
Quote
Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים) is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "Deity" in Biblical Hebrew

Not bad for an old Jew, eh?

What about you BADecker... you said you don't read Hebrew, but have you even read the bible in English?

I ask because you don't appear to know much about what it says... yet you make claims that there are translation errors after you admit you can't even read the language

Since the Bible states elsewhere that God is One, we have a plurality of persons in a singular God, no matter how you look at it.


The Hebrew Bible says that?  I'd love to know what book, chapter and verse... please educate me
2598  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 05:47:58 PM

...God, Who science proves to exist, actually did examine science before He set it in place

Yet another claim pulled directly from your ass

Prove it

It is a logical conclusion based on the things that god's witnesses in the bible said and say.


It is a hearsay (at best).

Oh, because the bible says so?

The bible also says that rabbits chew their cud like a cow

The bible says unicorns exist

The bible condones slavery in no less than 5 different books

The entire old testament is filled with murder and genocide

The bible places Jesus in cities hundreds of miles apart on the same day

The bible says the earth has four corners (implying the earth is flat)

The bible says God created light... 3 days before he created the sun and stars...

The bible is wrong on so many things... Literally hundreds of provable errors and contradictions

I will gladly provide dozens of links to scholarly sources on the subject if you are interested


The one thing that annoys me the most is that "everyone can understand bible in their own way" or such the cases that you've said can be understood differently from person to person or completely ignored. Ignoring the bad parts and counting just he good ones, The Evolution of Bible. Therefore bible is as much as a blank papers bounded together, it's just a great hitorical artifact, nothing else absolutely.

This is why the real Bible, the original written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, was written in those languages, which are meaning specific in the things that they say.


So you talk and read Hebrew Aramaic and Greek then? Or you don't understand the Bible either?

Actually, now that you mention it, I do...

I have read the book of Genesis in the original Hebrew, thanks for noticing... I have also read the Zohar, but that hardly counts since it is only commentary on the Hebrew Bible...

Here is an example from the first sentence of Genesis...

בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ.
Bereshit bara Elohim et hashamayim ve'et ha'arets.

Literally translates:
In the beginning, gods created the Heavens and the Earth

Elohim is the plural form for gods, not singular God... that would be El (אֵל), not Elohim (אֱלֹהִים)... Elohim is plural...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
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Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים) is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "Deity" in Biblical Hebrew

Not bad for an old Jew, eh?

What about you BADecker... you said you don't read Hebrew, but have you even read the bible in English?

I ask because you don't appear to know much about what it says... yet you make claims that there are translation errors after you admit you can't even read the language
2599  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 05:42:23 PM
When we don't know if something scientific is law or not, we form a theory about it. The theory isn't there to state that the thing is a law or not. The theory isn't there to make the thing a law or not. The theory is there to help us examine the thing in more detail, so that we can figure out if the thing is a law or not.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

You are wrong again!

Science does not "form a theory about it"... nobody "forms a theory"... everyone "forms a hypothesis"

In science, everything starts as a hypothesis

Only after testing and confirmation (proof) does the hypothesis graduate to become a theory or law.  A theory is factual/proven consensus reality, whereas a hypothesis is just an educated guess

A theory and law are equally verified/proven hypothesis... a law is not better than a theory, nor a theory better than a law... neither can be equated to a hypothesis, like you keep trying to do
(times I explained this to you = 17)

I see you forgot that the dictionary shows that the word "hypothesis" is a synonym of the word "theory."


I see you forgot words can have multiple meaning in different context (times I explained this to you = 4)

Faggot can mean a bundle of sticks, a cigarette butt, or a homosexual... If someone is "throwing a faggot on the fire"... context tells me the definition I should use would be the one about a bundle of sticks... possibly a cigarette butt... I hope they are not throwing a homosexual on the fire... then I'd have to assume they were a Christian!

In a scientific context, you should be using the first dictionary definition from your list... the one that specifically mentions scientific theories...

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1. a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena:
Einstein's theory of relativity.
Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine.
2600  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 15, 2016, 05:36:57 PM
When we don't know if something scientific is law or not, we form a theory about it. The theory isn't there to state that the thing is a law or not. The theory isn't there to make the thing a law or not. The theory is there to help us examine the thing in more detail, so that we can figure out if the thing is a law or not.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

You are wrong again!

Science does not "form a theory about it"... nobody "forms a theory"... everyone "forms a hypothesis"

In science, everything starts as a hypothesis

Only after testing and confirmation (proof) does the hypothesis graduate to become a theory or law.  A theory is factual/proven consensus reality, whereas a hypothesis is just an educated guess

A theory and law are equally verified/proven hypothesis... a law is not better than a theory, nor a theory better than a law... neither can be equated to a hypothesis, like you keep trying to do
(times I explained this to you = 17)
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