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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 24, 2018, 09:19:44 PM
Dom buying a drink with IOTA at the DCX.Technology stand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRbZZCyXw2o
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 24, 2018, 01:43:38 PM

Good article on Fujitsu making the case for IOTA to be the industry standard for IOT. If you want  to understand why IOTA's founders eschew being a P2P network (user friendly wallets) and focus on industrial use cases, you should read this article:  https://www.finder.com.au/fujitsu-showcases-iota-cryptocurrency-as-new-automation-standard
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 24, 2018, 11:24:24 AM


Nice addition to Fujitsu DE's twitter Bio.

When  will be the Trinity wallet  released?



It's in alpha testing with a security audit being done, so beta testing should start once the security audit is finished--short answer soontm.
264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 24, 2018, 07:51:12 AM


Nice addition to Fujitsu DE's twitter Bio.
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 23, 2018, 11:40:06 PM
Biilabs is using IOTA to privatize data on Taiwan's social media platform PTT (10 million users): https://technode.com/2018/04/23/put-fighting-for-data-justice/
266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 23, 2018, 06:36:35 PM
Iota smart contracts recently tied up with the electric station in charging so this is the best practical application to iota smart contract

IOTA doesn't have smart contracts at the moment. How it works is listed in the description of Elaad's demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymbbM3WfPQc

No back office and no communication protocol is required to operate the charging station: the transactions are exchanged directly without the use of a charge card or subscription.

The IOTA charging station operates completely autonomously and takes care of communication and payment with the end ‘user’. The meter values are stored every 15 minutes in the Tangle, which ensures reliable and irrefutable administration.

This technology might be a perfect fit in the future connected and fully digitalized world. The exploration of this technology in the e-mobility domain could also provide insight for other (connected) sectors like the energy sector.

The charger is equipped with hardware to setup a TCP/IP connection with a car, after which the payments and data exchange can happen fully autonomously and machine 2 machine. It uses the charging cable and special hardware, which is also used for the newly developed communication in e-Mobility ISO 15118, between car and charger to setup this connection.

The IOTA charger will be available to the public for charging. If cars that want to charge are not equipped with the required hard- and software, they can still simply charge their car by sending IOTA tokens directly to the charger using the normal IOTA wallet.
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 23, 2018, 02:35:46 PM
Short teaser video of Fujitsu's IOTA demo (English): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-mrQdqVg2I
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 23, 2018, 11:47:05 AM


DCX.technology's booth at Hannover Messe.
269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 23, 2018, 07:57:44 AM


Fujitsu CEO, Dr. Rolf Werner, addressing crowd at Hannover Messe's media day.

Video of presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=qoAQdQpkMgk
270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 22, 2018, 01:06:17 PM


Fujitsu setting up their booth at Hannover Messe.
271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 20, 2018, 06:25:22 PM
IOTA smart charger demo by Elaad NL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=ymbbM3WfPQc

Formal partnership with Innoenergyy: https://blog.iota.org/iota-partners-with-innoenergy-on-smart-energy-community-5dc483b42aa0

About Elaad LN: https://www.elaad.nl/about-us/

About Innoenergy: http://www.innoenergy.com/about-innoenergy/
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 20, 2018, 01:28:07 PM
Just tried to use IOTA wallet a couple of time and if you don't get stress, then maybe the coin worth the hype.

I never used a wallet so poor. Really. And i'm a true shitcoiner, this is the by far the crapiest wallet I ever used. They really need to improve this in order to make any sense the current market cap.

You should have tried using Monero's official CLI wallet, noobs wouldn't even bother. For the longest time I had correct them when they claimed the coin was shit because of the wallet. But guess what happened when new wallets appeared? Some of us get in before the noobs figure out what's goin on, and my guess, is that's why the smart money is on IOTA.


Evolution of tech:

1. Early process where the developers are trying to make the tech stable. Noobs bitch about usability.

2. Tech is stable and wallets abound (notice this list is specific to crypto)--"Yeah!" Noobs rejoice.

3. A bunch of developers see the money that the new tech is making and start copy/pasing everything. Noobs read this as, "Look how easy it is to develop new technology!"

4. Early process of an atcual new technology--developers are trying to make the tech stable. Noobs bitch about usability....

*You can also throw in some glitches that the noobs weren't around to see in previous itterations and the old guard conviently forget because they are more worried about their bags than being fair and honest.





Can you tell  me  why  don't  you see  in CPC-Chain a  competitor?

I have  red  that  ITC (IOT chain) will have  fees, so  this  will make  it  unfeaseble  for IOT  (I think),  but  CPC chain scales  horizontallly  



Never heard of it. You should look on their site if you want to research it, then cross-reference their claims with agnostic data. I generally find that the better the project, the more you learn about what users in that sector want, as the project was created to fill a need, rather than to just wow speculators.




Just tried to use IOTA wallet a couple of time and if you don't get stress, then maybe the coin worth the hype.

I never used a wallet so poor. Really. And i'm a true shitcoiner, this is the by far the crapiest wallet I ever used. They really need to improve this in order to make any sense the current market cap.

You should have tried using Monero's official CLI wallet, noobs wouldn't even bother. For the longest time I had correct them when they claimed the coin was shit because of the wallet. But guess what happened when new wallets appeared? Some of us get in before the noobs figure out what's goin on, and my guess, is that's why the smart money is on IOTA.


Evolution of tech:

1. Early process where the developers are trying to make the tech stable. Noobs bitch about usability.

2. Tech is stable and wallets abound (notice this list is specific to crypto)--"Yeah!" Noobs rejoice.

3. A bunch of developers see the money that the new tech is making and start copy/pasing everything. Noobs read this as, "Look how easy it is to develop new technology!"

4. Early process of an atcual new technology--developers are trying to make the tech stable. Noobs bitch about usability....

*You can also throw in some glitches that the noobs weren't around to see in previous itterations and the old guard conviently forget because they are more worried about their bags than being fair and honest.




You may have a point, but i still desagree.

IOTA is already on top10 with ~5billion marketcap with this crap wallet. We are probably not going to see any "moon" here, different of monero (by the time you are talking about) and either other coins with potential and low-medium market cap.

This "before" in IOTA already happened a considerable time ago.


As far as mooning, the needs of IOT are what will raise the price--I wasn't suggesting that only the wallet would substantially raise the price. Even with Monero, it was a gradual increase once more user friendly wallets were released (along with other improvents). It's a barrier for a certain type of investor/specualtor who only evaluates what he/she can see and doesn't have a good grasp of software development.
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 20, 2018, 11:19:08 AM
In my opinion the cryptos with the highest potential are "mother-coins", alternate blockchains (Directed Acyclic Graph); and platforms for smart contract development. I see BTC, ETH, XRP, NEO, and IOTA being in the future top 5 consistently. The only thing that makes me skeptical of IOTA's potential to rise far more than it already has is it's supply. There's basically 200x more of them than BTC and it's market cap is already 1/25th of BTC.

I'll disagree on two points. There needs to be digital cash in the world (blackmarkets, untaxed income, corruption, finacial privacy*) and Monero is the best digital cash that we currently have. Second,  IOTA doesn't have a decimal point (which makes its smallest unit comparable with BTC's Satoshis, which are a good base for microtransactions), so it needs to grow to handle the demands of the IOT (liquidity is a thing), which is estimated in the tens of trillions of dollars in the next decades.


*These markets are in the trillions and they are only going to get more digital as time goes on.
274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 20, 2018, 09:36:30 AM
This is most likely the IOTA POCs that Fujitsu will be unveiling at Hannover Messe. The nodes are especially interesting as that lends credibility to the contention that businesses and governments would be using their own nodes to secure IOT tx (though it's only one corporation's POC, it would make sense to make sure their tx aren't subject to outside interference).

https://twitter.com/kaipasing/status/987019416352280577

275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 20, 2018, 03:35:53 AM
Just tried to use IOTA wallet a couple of time and if you don't get stress, then maybe the coin worth the hype.

I never used a wallet so poor. Really. And i'm a true shitcoiner, this is the by far the crapiest wallet I ever used. They really need to improve this in order to make any sense the current market cap.

You should have tried using Monero's official CLI wallet, noobs wouldn't even bother. For the longest time I had correct them when they claimed the coin was shit because of the wallet. But guess what happened when new wallets appeared? Some of us get in before the noobs figure out what's goin on, and my guess, is that's why the smart money is on IOTA.


Evolution of tech:

1. Early process where the developers are trying to make the tech stable. Noobs bitch about usability.

2. Tech is stable and wallets abound (notice this list is specific to crypto)--"Yeah!" Noobs rejoice.

3. A bunch of developers see the money that the new tech is making and start copy/pasing everything. Noobs read this as, "Look how easy it is to develop new technology!"

4. Early process of an atcual new technology--developers are trying to make the tech stable. Noobs bitch about usability....

*You can also throw in some glitches that the noobs weren't around to see in previous itterations and the old guard conviently forget because they are more worried about their bags than being fair and honest.


276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 19, 2018, 01:03:14 PM


World's first IOTA charging station: https://www.elaad.nl/news/worlds-first-iota-charging-station-released/

277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 19, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
Also guys you should have a look at coins that actively support Monero development: Masari.

It's a Monero fork, good relashionship with Monero, only 18.5 millions total coin supply and it's still early, only 3000 sats on SouthXchange and Tradeogre.
If you count that Masari uses a weighted harmonic mean difficulty adjustment algorithm for smoother difficulty adjustment, which has been PR'd back to Monero you already have a kick-ass coin. It also has only ever used RingCT, has a fixed ring size of 13, and we plan on adding uncle mining and researching block tree sharding.

Cheers !

good relashionship with Monero,

Cringe level BS. I know there are people stupid enough to buy this line, but I really doubt they are on this thread--maybe know the community before going full-shill.


Here we go:

Masari dev writed this post when Monero forked: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/8a7ubh/only_20_of_the_blocks_coming_into_the_fork_are/

FluffyPony talked about MSR in his podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TATpQ7KogBc&feature=youtu.be&t=6074

and also tweeted about MSR before that: https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/971103127947669505

I don't know which one of us does not really know the comunity, i am a Monero Hodler for a long time  Wink



My bad. Given the timing, I thought it was just another money grab project--if they are actually contributing to research and not just taking advantage of the ASIC resistance feud, then it may not be as bad as I thought. Though I'm still suspicious of the timing. TBH, I don't follow the Monero reddit as I once had, so this is my main news aggregate. Also, you are still coming on strong in the shill department (saying you are a long time hodler with noob account is equivalent to the car salesmen's "trust me!"--it comes accross as desperate, same goes for listing exchanges and the current price in satoshis).
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 19, 2018, 09:27:41 AM
Also guys you should have a look at coins that actively support Monero development: Masari.

It's a Monero fork, good relashionship with Monero, only 18.5 millions total coin supply and it's still early, only 3000 sats on SouthXchange and Tradeogre.
If you count that Masari uses a weighted harmonic mean difficulty adjustment algorithm for smoother difficulty adjustment, which has been PR'd back to Monero you already have a kick-ass coin. It also has only ever used RingCT, has a fixed ring size of 13, and we plan on adding uncle mining and researching block tree sharding.

Cheers !

good relashionship with Monero,

Cringe level BS. I know there are people stupid enough to buy this line, but I really doubt they are on this thread--maybe know the community before going full-shill.
279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 19, 2018, 07:59:33 AM
DCX.TECHNOLOGY is presenting an IOTA POC @ Hannover Messe. DCX.TECHNOLOGY is "the world’s leading independent, end-to-end IT services company. With $25 billion in annual revenues and nearly 6,000 clients in more than 70 countries..."  Taken from: http://www.dxc.technology/about_us/ds/140019-our_history .

More comprehensive article translated: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.finanznachrichten.de%2Fnachrichten-2018-04%2F43568021-industrie-4-0-mit-blockchain-sicher-machen-iota-und-dxc-technology-zeigen-live-demo-auf-der-hannover-messe-007.htm&edit-text=&act=url

Tweet from their German media: https://twitter.com/DXCdach/status/986582632258404353




280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 19, 2018, 07:46:05 AM
Lotta people confident in IOTA but after seeing how the developers respond to their followers I really don't see a long term future for this unless they clean up their act. Even then the Tangle is... clunky.

You do know what "BETA" and "not production ready" mean -- I'll remind you in 6-8 months that you didn't.



It has been  ''''BETA''''  for  5  years

We are in 2018, still beta, no wallet, funds  has been  disapeared in December,  Tangle full  of  bugs  discovered  by researchers





How long should the protocal layer of the IOT take? If it were easy, someone would have already done it--especially given the estimates for the IOT market are in the tens of trillions of dollars.

There is a wallet--not sure why you keep repeating this fallacy. I think you confused another poster's comment on hardwallets for wallet apps--but you seem to get a lot of details wrong and keep repeating them, so not at all surprising.

They held everyone's funds that were in danger and are in the process of giving them back--both Bitcoin and Ethreum have had major software issues, and if you spent as much time scouring for their FUD, you would have found them and acknowldege what most rational people realize--that software is never perfect and development is an iterative process. Just a reminder for those who would rather not be purveyors of a double standard https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident <--if that had been IOTA, imagine the outcry.

Heilman's research is contested (he also has a conflict of interest with his link to daglabs) and the IOTA devs removed the hash function in question, despite their belief that Heilman was mistaken. I'll wait for the third party researchers to determine who was correct.



You  didn't told me  why the  token  should  increase  value.

WHY  should IOTA token increase value'

Do you know  the  law  of supply and demand?   2  BILLION TOKENS


LEARN ECONOMY




LEARN TO READ

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2357298.msg34811358#msg34811358


So,  as  seen  that  you are smart, let  me to know   what  do you  think about  the competition.

What  about  IOTtex?

https://thebitcoin.pub/t/iotex-the-iota-killer/33356

https://www.iotex.io/FAQ


IoT has rapidly evolved over the years, but lacks real “killer applications”. McKinsey predicted that IoT could generate up to $11.1 trillion per year in economic value by 2025. Despite the potential of IoT, there are roadblocks ahead: lack of scalability, privacy concerns, and lack of functional values. IoTeX solves these problems by introducing a blockchain-in-blockchain architecture with token economy. By combining token incentives with community efforts, we believe we can crowdsource industry and community talents to address these technical challenges in IoT development.


At the highest level, we have four main innovations: 1. Blockchain-in-blockchain architecture which ensures privacy and prevents IoT information leakage; 2. Built-in privacy based on lightweight cryptography; 3. Real-time consensus with instant finality, which improves the throughput of the network, and reduces transactional cost, and boosts efficient cross-blockchain communication; 4. Subchain-as-a-service (SAAS) to facilitate fast prototyping and production of new IoT applications and ecosystems.



And  IOT chain.



So  IOTA use  DAG

Dag  is  a techno in its  infanc  and  FULL OF  BUGS


Which  one to choose?  Clearly  IOt chain and  IOTex









One of those is Both of those are ERC-20 token(s), which means it's both are as suitable for the IOT as much as Ethereum, which is not at all. Let me know when they have their own network(s) up.

The other One I've never heard of, but if they ae layering on top of blockchains (as the quoted material suggest), then they are adding inefficiency and fees.

Given IOTA's relationships with those most interested in IOT, governments and corporations, they are the leaders in the clubhouse--though you could just check CMC.
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