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2601  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 04:36:16 AM
So the combined sale of both BTC and BCH comes to over $3100.

2602  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2017, 06:09:25 PM
So is anyone ever going to address how Bitcoin Cash is allowed to use the Bitcoin logo? Isn't it trademarked by the old Bitcoin Foundation or something?

I believe most of the trademarking early on was done by MtGox and possibly bitcoin.com

Theoretically, if I recall from 2011-2012, they opened it up for public use.
2603  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2017, 05:59:37 PM
First things I have seen on reddit, BCH is failing.
2604  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2017, 01:04:11 AM
Hmm, but what about BIP148? I thought that was at midnight.
2605  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2017, 12:41:04 AM
So is it August 1st wherever it's supposed to be August 1st yet?
2606  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: August 01, 2017, 12:20:51 AM
Taxation is not theft if country investment money in the right places,example schools or national defense,to make economy and country stronger.But we have many  states especially in Africa where governments put money from taxation in you buckets and make our citizens poorly.

Later actions alter past actions.

If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.

Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
2607  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: July 31, 2017, 01:15:17 PM
It is hard to opt-out from society, you'll be using public property and services everywhere you go, some people will want a free ride, but if they are using public property and services why souldn't they pay?

It is not theft, it is a fee.

Fees are voluntary.
2608  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2017, 05:09:20 AM
ATH is being broken this month... you heard it here first boys!!!

This month?

As in July?
2609  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2017, 04:39:41 AM
Can the very off topic discussions stop, and go off to some other thread? Less economic policy arguments and more Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion, for which this thread is for.

The thread is called "wall observer" due to the wall of text we have to read in every post.
2610  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2017, 01:09:22 AM
I did have a theory on something that could push the price up a lot over time.

There was something like 600k bitcoins stolen from MtGox which apparently was flowing through btc-e being sold off over the years. btc-e has always had a lower price which may have kept the price low over the years. Now that the admins are on the run and they do not have btc-e to sell their coins they have stopped that flow of large amounts of bitcoins onto the market. Without this downward pressure, who knows how high the price will go.
2611  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2017, 01:05:05 AM
Why can't tomorrow be Aug. 1st so we can get past all this "Coin split! BCC! Aug. 1st! OMG!! AGHHH!" sky is falling FUD garbage.

Ugh.... one more fkn day... can't wait for it to be over so we can move on.

<sigh>

This is just a well promoted alt coin.
2612  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: July 30, 2017, 12:17:50 PM
Later actions alter past actions.

If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.

Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.

This is really sick. Are you from Saudi Arabia? You can't make up for a rape by taking out the victim to a dinner later. Sex without consent is rape, and it must be punishable with the death penalty in addition to torture.
He was obviously illustrating how taxation is criminal and not actually condoning rape... He's saying that taxation without consent is the same as rape and can not be justified by good actions later on.

In that case, I need to apologize to Elwar.

But even if that is true, taxation with consent can't be practiced in real life. If paying taxes is purely voluntary, then how many of us would honestly pay their taxes? And it is not fair to have a  small section of the society paying their taxes and another larger group refusing to do it.

The question was not how well things work.

The question was "Is taxation theft?"

Your response that taxation is not with consent would lead to the reality that taxation is theft.
2613  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: July 29, 2017, 09:22:58 AM
Later actions alter past actions.

If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.

Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
2614  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: July 28, 2017, 09:39:52 AM
I am glad that there are so many people here on my side.

This weekend I went and robbed some old lady's house (she didn't even lock the door! ha!), but not to worry. I donated some of the money to charity after I went and bought some burgers for myself and I did not take all of her money so it was only a percentage.

Because the money was put to a good cause then it was not theft.

Thank you everyone for re-affirming the fact that I am not a thief.


I doubt the old lady would have donated her money to charity, which I believe is her duty. She should not get to decide on her own.


It is good to know that the action of taking her money without her consent can be deemed ok as long as another action later on negates that action.

Like if I kill someone but later I do a good deed...I did not commit murder.


I believe I will live the rest of my life on this philosophy. Do bad....but do good later to even things out.
2615  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would you eat a human? on: July 28, 2017, 03:31:35 AM
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2616  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2017, 11:16:07 AM
SegWit at 100% this difficulty period:

Quote
2014 blocks before current lock-in period ends. Still 1914 blocks needed for a lock-in.
100% SegWit blocks mined in this lock-in period.

Let the countdown begin.
2617  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2017, 09:31:25 AM
The sad thing is that it might be easier for me to get my namecoins from BTC-e from the government than it is getting past their verification process due to a frozen account. After sending a copy of my passport and 3 months of bank statements they rejected it saying they needed a notarized ID scan from a third party, 3 months of proof of salary, utility bill, bank statements (all notarized) etc.

In other words, they want to keep all of my coins and no amount of verification will suffice.

How many coins are we talking about buddy? I hope a large majority of your HODLING'S aren't on there. This shit always seems to happen when we are in a good moment price rise. I hope we don't end up with an epic dump Gox style.

I had 21,000 NMC on there. Never bothered to create a wallet because they weren't worth much. Until they were. And I couldn't get them off the site.
2618  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would you eat a human? on: July 27, 2017, 08:43:39 AM
Most people would not eat human until they saw this human with chocolate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wYigjLzhwA
2619  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is God male or female? on: July 27, 2017, 08:41:52 AM
I think god is apache in my oppinion

2620  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2017, 06:45:16 AM
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so the BTC-e issue is what a 'big shrug' to the bitcoin world....price is not affected...is that what people seem to see/think now?

would be nice not to be at the 'whim' of another gox issue that slams price down for a year

(still, have the bcc fud to look forward to and the 2mb thing in 3 months.fun times)

btc...the hot mess girlfriend you can't leave.....sigh



Seems like the bulls are undeterred, no matter what obstacle is thrown at them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Nh5T61mQU&t=0m56s


I am wondering if the big investors will not believe btc-e is down until a reliable source confirms it.
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