Did the coincensus already start?  Yep, and it has started with the most remarkable moment in Bitcoin so far. --Bankers know the revolution is coming--  well that escalated quickly You guys...Bitcoin was never meant to upset anyone...especially wealthy bankers. Should we shut it down? Do you think they will forgive us? Can we take up some donations for those affected?  |
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Thanks for the video, lazy people are all around us:) maybe I missed it , can you post it again the ico dates, pre ico etc. Its presale at the moment and public sale will start in June. Do you maybe know exact dates for those sale phases? Token sale should start on May 15th. Actually there is no set date yet for the public sale. They are still working on shoring up security for the token, putting as many industry eyes on it (including Dr. Nagy of the Ethereum Institute) to make sure we will have a secure token. |
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Hey gang, I just saw that BitPay is shilling for bcash!
When you go to pay with bitcoin they show you two options, bitcoin or bcash. Then they set a minimum network fee for bitcoin and show you the network fee for both. The last time I went to pay for something it showed bitcoin network fee cost of 13 cents and 0 cents for bcash (even though the mempool was empty).
Add to that, Coinbase is dropping its payment services.
So pretty soon, any merchant accepting bitcoin in the US will be actively encouraging people to use bcash!
Bcash to the moon!
Thank you BitPay!
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Great and futuristic project!
I see that you have team from all over the world,but where exactly is your company registered?
The company is currently registered in Singapore. |
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So...wtf.
Coinbase is stopping all payment services?
And BitPay is shilling for bcash, charging high transaction fees for BTC payments even when the mempool is empty and then not providing a bitcoin address to make a payment.
No more bitcoin payments for Expedia. My hosting service is making impossible to use bitcoin.
Bitcoin use in the US is about to die.
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I notice that there is a huge amount of tokens in reserve from 45-72% of tokens.How will that be distributed, are you keeping those for the team?
The reserve is there for spending at certain milestones. If the ICO raises the maximum amount that should be enough for all of the engineering and prototyping to get at least the first seastead in the water. The reserves will be sold down the road to build more seasteads. The thinking behind this is that so many of these ICOs raise their full amount of money in the first round then you see the founders out driving lambos and going on kick ass vacations and never actually getting around to doing what they promised (why would they? they have the money). With holding a reserve, Blue Frontiers has the incentive to do well so that they can sell the tokens down the road to continue the project. Everyone in the project wants this to happen, it's not about the money but the vision. Thanks for reassuring me, I see you understand at what was I aiming initially  So that means that later there will be more sale events if I understood you properly.Would that be private sales or public ones in later stages if you will need to sell more? I believe the plan is to sell OTC or on an exchange as needed once they reach those milestones. It will be gradual, trying to not disrupt the market. The money they make in the ICO will be split between ETH, BTC, EUR and USD to pay out salaries and contracts for construction. Hopefully BTC and EUR values go up so much that they never have to touch the reserves  Nice, will we be able to know the public addresses of those wallets and know what team is doing with funds? Yes, at least for the crypto based funds. Fiat is so much in old times that you can't verify accounts publicly. |
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I began using computers when I bought my first ZX81 kit and built it.
It had a whopping 1K of RAM and programs could be saved and loaded to audio cassette tapes which was a real hit and miss affair.
Progression from there was the ZX spectrum, BBC micro, Commodore 64, Atari ST 400 (I think), Apple Macintosh....... modern day PCs.
Still, fun days.
had a timex-sinclair 1000 (basically a zx-81 that was prebuilt for usa market) with the 16k ram pack and that sparky printer. still have it somewhere. the sparky printer was pretty cool. the ram pack connection was so wobbly (instant lockup if you even breathed on it) i wound up hot gluing the whole thing to a piece of wood. ts1000 -> vic20 -> c64 -> columbia 8088 with (eventually) a 30 megabyte rll drive woot! (1st ibm pc clone) -> ibm at -> self built from there (386sx and onward). also had a programmable hp calculator back around the late '70s but it didnt have the stripe reader, i had to code moon lander in by hand each time so i would never never turn it off rofl. Wow the timex-Sinclair ! My first computer I think we paid around 50$ Wow. Is anyone in this thread younger than the Big Mac? Probably, although I made my first PC rounds on a ZX81 as well. I understand the Big Mac is from 1967, right?  Big Mac. January 24, 1984. I'm not...but my gf is |
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Do you have any vesting period for team tokens?And if yes,for how long team tokens are locked?
There are discussions on length of time and which of the team will be vested. |
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Whats the percentage of the tokens that are available for the public sale?
Public sale is 4-28% depending upon hitting the soft cap or the hard cap. 4,000 ETH Soft cap 22,000 ETH Hard cap Presale is 7-8% depending upon the hard or soft cap. |
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I've been thinking more about this on the firewall aspect of things. At first I thought it might be just something someone else might want to take and give a try but I was thinking about how this might be fairly simple to implement on a linux box with iptables or something along those lines.
What I am running into is the process of whitelisting.
If you set your iptables to reject all IP addresses, then have a list of allowed IP addresses based upon 1 satoshi micropayments.
My hang up is matching up a micropayment with incoming IP address.
With Lightning Network you don't know the source of the funds, just the next hop in the network. So you would have to generate a separate address (or however LN makes unique transactions) for the IP to pay.
Is there a way to have a custom "IP blocked" message such that someone connecting will see something like a Lightning address to send their funds to for access to the server? Assuming this would be a simple plugin to whatever client is accessing the server. Perhaps a popup or dialog saying "webpage.com is requesting 1 satoshi for 1 hour of access, do you accept?" with the acceptance sending the 1 satoshi.
I was thinking you could create a table on something like Namecoin and update it (so there is no central server that can be attacked) but that would take time and cost money on the NMC network to update tables.
I was also thinking that if you have a single address for your website that never changes, people could send the amount of satoshis equivalent to the last 3 numbers in their IP address...but that would be expensive and high volume servers would likely have repetition. You could send the amount equivalent to the full IP address but then it's super expensive. Could someone send out less than 1 satoshi on LN? What happens with more decimal spaces? Does it get rounded up/down?
I'm not saying that this would make a server secure...you would still need to secure it. It would just deter distributed attacks. An attack from a single IP could still happen but in that way your server can detect the attack from a single IP address and block it.
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10 buy 1 LTC for 0.0166 BTC
20 sell 1 LTC for 0.0167 BTC
30 goto 10 This brings me back to the gold old Commodore Vic 20 days, prior to being able to use the data cassette unit to run programs. I had the Vic20 with cool games such as the tooth brushing game and several math based games. My introduction to programming was: 10 print "Chad is cool" 20 goto 10 Over time I did several print messages to make it look like an ASCII rocket going up the screen. I guess I was preparing for BTC even back then. |
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I notice that there is a huge amount of tokens in reserve from 45-72% of tokens.How will that be distributed, are you keeping those for the team?
The reserve is there for spending at certain milestones. If the ICO raises the maximum amount that should be enough for all of the engineering and prototyping to get at least the first seastead in the water. The reserves will be sold down the road to build more seasteads. The thinking behind this is that so many of these ICOs raise their full amount of money in the first round then you see the founders out driving lambos and going on kick ass vacations and never actually getting around to doing what they promised (why would they? they have the money). With holding a reserve, Blue Frontiers has the incentive to do well so that they can sell the tokens down the road to continue the project. Everyone in the project wants this to happen, it's not about the money but the vision. Thanks for reassuring me, I see you understand at what was I aiming initially So that means that later there will be more sale events if I understood you properly.Would that be private sales or public ones in later stages if you will need to sell more? I believe the plan is to sell OTC or on an exchange as needed once they reach those milestones. It will be gradual, trying to not disrupt the market. The money they make in the ICO will be split between ETH, BTC, EUR and USD to pay out salaries and contracts for construction. Hopefully BTC and EUR values go up so much that they never have to touch the reserves |
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There are no past seasteads, this will be the first so they could not reference any past projects.
TSI commissioned the study from an independent company, that was part of the deal with French Polynesia...to get an economic and environmental impact study before they would grant the legislation. TSI and Blue Frontiers delivered both. Now that the FP election is over we're hoping for some legislation soon.
We will most definitely be doing physical environmental impact studies throughout the term of the project. I know it is not marine science but I will be personally going to the location before anything is put in the water and take "before" pictures of as much of the area as I can to ensure that the coral is not damaged in the lagoon. Other studies will be the various PH, chemical, salt levels, etc.
They will ensure to have a "control" area where there are no seasteads to compare to.
Being part of the blockchain group I am not involved in that group but we did discuss the desire to have all data stored on a blockchain, hopefully some monitoring devices that can feed the blockchain over time. We want to be as transparent as possible and believe a blockchain based setup would help ensure that there's no suspicion of manipulated data on company servers.
Being a pilot project we know many eyes will be on us and detrimental impact with the environment would stifle any future projects so there has been a huge focus on this. We are not hoping to just not harm the lagoon but help it to thrive and benefit from our presence. That not only benefits the environment but our project as well.
We want nations banging on our door to build seasteads in their protected waters...that won't happen if we're dumping toxic waste turning our pilot lagoon into a radioactive cesspool.
Looks like this truly will be a pilot of a pilot, then! There are seasteads already throughout the world - nothing like the modern contraptions we're talking about of course and I'm sure a lot of lessons can already be drawn from them (look at northern Borneo, Brunei, for living examples) and of course as mentioned earlier, the canal boathouses in Netherlands are more samples. If you're looking for some expertise, for someone to work together with your team on monitoring... offering myself for the smallest of roles. I was a monitoring and evaluation expert in a recently concluded career, focus on community-led projects in developing countries. The closest related experience was looking at post-tsunami homes in Maldives and Sri Lanka. Biggest lesson learnt from these experiences: nothing prepares you for the impacts and outcomes of manmade structures in pristine environments =) True, there are floating structures all over the world. What makes a floating hotel different from a seastead is the idea of sovereign governments on the seasteads. We won't be building anything in any nation without the Special Economic Zone to allow for our own experimentation in governance. Otherwise we would just be a floating resort company. There is a floating hotel in Dubai so there is certainly something to point to and show that it can be done from an engineering point of view. But hopefully we are taking things a bit further than anything out there right now. Help with monitoring would be great. That will be one of the first things we require when we have the site picked out. |
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Whats the story behind token name Varyon,as i see project is called Blue Frontiers?
The company name is Blue Frontiers. We wanted a unique name for the token so that people would be able to recognize it and not confuse it with something else. The name Varyon is a play on the word variation...representing the wide variation in governments we're hoping pop up on the many seasteads. |
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Some serious and unique project as far as i can see. you have much work to do to make this happen. I will follow your project for further updates.
Thats true,incredibly ambitious project,but i wish them all the best. You mentioned earlier that minimum amount during sale will be 1 ETH.Any chance for that to be lower,so more people can join,and therefore spread the awareness about this project? I'm not certain that it's 1 ETH, I don't think they've made that decision yet but that's the number I keep hearing. They can only go so low because they have to do KYC/AML for every person and that costs money per person. |
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Are there any plans to replicate this project to third world countries with much riverine communities should the project become successful?
The hope is to have this in as many countries around the world as will allow it. The key being that the government has to grant a Special Economic Zone (SEZ) in one of its protected waterways. Blue Frontiers has opened discussions with other nations that are just as concerned about sea level rise, the fate of their people, their culture, and their homeland. Before this project would scattered in most countries then it would really need to open or do grant permission which supposed wont really be that easy for each government would took consideration just because of the project implementation.I do like the idea but i cant imagine how much funds would be allocated into this one. This would really be huge. I hate to be a negative nelly, but I don't believe building in the ocean will save you from the upcoming climate change. All mankind will be suffocating and choking with 20-30 years, regardless of where you live.  Suppose to say the same thing.We might able to be save on high level rise of water but if resources would be mainly affected where we do able to get to sustain life then it would still be hard. Blue Frontiers, in collaboration with Startup Societies, has created a global contest. Whoever can facilitate getting their government to create a Special Economic Zone in their nation will win $100k. Read more at http://blue-frontiers.global |
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Lol this r0ach guy must be trolling. Wtf is that
Welcome to the Wall Observer thread, I see you've met the resident troll. Please do not quote him as everyone has him on ignore. Because we're all jews. |
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I see that you have so much strategic partnerships lined up and even some from crypto world. Do you plan to have all services on island to be offered by crypto world?That would be really cool to go full crypto This has been my role as a volunteer for Blue Frontiers to push for as much blockchain based solutions for anything and everything happening on the seastead. I see the seastead as an incubator for all sorts of new blockchain companies. If you're coming to the seastead, be ready to experience the latest technology in the crypto space. Even if at times it is a bit confusing and in the early stages of "ease of use" Varyon can become the hub that all of these companies need to go through to get their solutions paid for since everyone will already be using it. Even though in the private businesses they can accept any currency. |
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I notice that there is a huge amount of tokens in reserve from 45-72% of tokens.How will that be distributed, are you keeping those for the team?
The reserve is there for spending at certain milestones. If the ICO raises the maximum amount that should be enough for all of the engineering and prototyping to get at least the first seastead in the water. The reserves will be sold down the road to build more seasteads. The thinking behind this is that so many of these ICOs raise their full amount of money in the first round then you see the founders out driving lambos and going on kick ass vacations and never actually getting around to doing what they promised (why would they? they have the money). With holding a reserve, Blue Frontiers has the incentive to do well so that they can sell the tokens down the road to continue the project. Everyone in the project wants this to happen, it's not about the money but the vision. |
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